RE: Baking Soda remedy shrinks tumors

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It will take someone with more patience than me to count all the myths and

half-truth factoids in this article. If it were thru then no one would have

cancer. None of these people who claim these things have done a prospective

study - even a small one.

I talk to people about their cancers all day long every day. Almost all are

prone to or have tried alternative/natural therapies. Not a single person

has told me that they got control of their cancer with Alka-Seltzer and

maple syrup or by following the prescription provided by the North American

Raspberry and Blackberry Association (NARBA). They have conveniently

discovered that both raspberries AND blackberries cure cancer.

I just hope that the Model Airplane Glue Manufacturers Association doesn't

get any such bright ideas.

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Subject: [ ] Baking Soda remedy shrinks tumors

Baking Soda remedy shrinks tumors

Baking soda has been used throughout history for a variety of purposes

such as removing odors from the fridge, freshening up carpets and

whitening teeth. But what few people know is that is it also a

successful alternative cure for cancer...

http://www.naturalnews.com/032070_baking_soda_tumors.html

Also:

Black raspberries and anthocyanins demonstrate powerful cancer fighting

power

Colon cancer is the third leading cause of cancer deaths. This

devastating disease is on the rise as our typical diet of processed

foods continues to kill. A diet void of essential nutrients is the

driving force behind this largely preventable...

[Guest guest]

Gee you're on a roll today smoke rings notwithstanding!!

From: " Gammill " <vgammill>

Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 10:57:42

Subject: RE:Baking Soda remedy shrinks tumors

It will take someone with more patience than me to count all the myths and

half-truth factoids in this article. If it were thru then no one would have

cancer. None of these people who claim these things have done a prospective

study - even a small one.

I talk to people about their cancers all day long every day. Almost all are

prone to or have tried alternative/natural therapies. Not a single person

has told me that they got control of their cancer with Alka-Seltzer and

maple syrup or by following the prescription provided by the North American

Raspberry and Blackberry Association (NARBA). They have conveniently

discovered that both raspberries AND blackberries cure cancer.

I just hope that the Model Airplane Glue Manufacturers Association doesn't

get any such bright ideas.

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

In my alumni magazine, a few years ago now, the University of Alberta

was researching the Italian information on baking soda as a treatment

for cancer. However, there has been nothing since. If they had

discovered anything that worked, it would have been reported by now.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Read " cancer is a fungus " and get an understanding of the effects of baking soda

on tumors, which is basically O3 and what kills cancer. It has been proven to

work. Remember the " medical establishment makes on avg. 3.2 million dollars

before the patient dies. these oxygen type cures are very inexpensive and work.

I think ozone treatments are better, but more expensive.

russ

From: vgammill

Sent: 4/15/11

> It will take someone with more patience than me to count all the myths and

> half-truth factoids in this article. If it were thru then no one would have

> cancer. None of these people who claim these things have done a prospective

> study - even a small one.

>

> I talk to people about their cancers all day long every day. Almost all are

> prone to or have tried alternative/natural therapies. Not a single person

> has told me that they got control of their cancer with Alka-Seltzer and

> maple syrup or by following the prescription provided by the North American

> Raspberry and Blackberry Association (NARBA). They have conveniently

> discovered that both raspberries AND blackberries cure cancer.

>

> I just hope that the Model Airplane Glue Manufacturers Association doesn't

> get any such bright ideas.

>

>

[Guest guest]

You are too funny, but of course as always speaking the truth.

Elena

On Apr 15, 2011, at 12:57, " Gammill " <vgammill@...>

wrote:

> It will take someone with more patience than me to count all the

> myths and half-truth factoids in this article. If it were true then no one

would have cancer. None of these people who claim these things have done a

prospective study - even a small one............

>

[Guest guest]

Hi folks,

I dont know if this treatment works or not. I have heard of a few people it

worked on. Just remember how alternative treatments get shot down by almost

everyone, so if there is bad press, it may be a lie. How many doctors have

been run out of the USA doing alternative treatments that seemed to work. Most

,or all of the treatments we are using have been shot down by the main stream

media, medical, etc.

Thanks, Robyn

Re: [ ] Baking Soda remedy shrinks tumors

Greetings,

In my alumni magazine, a few years ago now, the University of Alberta

was researching the Italian information on baking soda as a treatment

for cancer. However, there has been nothing since. If they had

discovered anything that worked, it would have been reported by now.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Russ,

For our Monday seminars I wrote a list of some three dozen reasons that

alternative treatments fail. One reason is " ideological purity. " I am

currently working on a list of reasons that conventional treatment fail.

Ideological Purity. A true believer of any simplistic theory will

reflexively close the door to any treatment or theory deigned heretical.

Examples of theories that often ignore the larger picture would be

trophoblastic theory, candida origin, stealth viruses, pleomorphic bacteria,

oxidative stress, stochastic stress, cellular denial of stress/information,

gap junction intercellular communication perturbation, mycoplasma, liver

parasites, acid pH, oncogenes, emotional trauma, hypoxic tissues, low

membrane potential, DNA unraveling, aneuploidy, centromere instability, DNA

hypomethylation, local inflammation, fibrin coating, protein storage,

polymerization-depolymerization dysfunction, alterations in stem cells,

dysautonomia, nutritional distortions, epithelial-to-mesenchymal transition,

frankenfoods, silent clots, protein storage, high serum tyrosinase,

environmental pollution, pituitary dysfunction, and even de novo cancers

from mutagenic cancer treatments. The human mind is greatly discomforted by

no explanation and is annoyed by complex explanations, but fanciful plenary

explanations can be quite satisfying. Further, a quasi-explanation that is

presented as a soritical narrative typically ignores intervening,

superceding, proximate, or concurrent causations.

Russ, I am a big fan of collecting theories. It is a little like collecting

myths of the origin of the universe or the first humans. I am

particularly partial to the notion that the earth is supported on the back

of a large turtle which stands on the back of a larger one, etc. Yes, it is

turtles all the way down.

_____

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Behalf Of runion@...

Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:17 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Baking Soda remedy shrinks tumors

Hi ,

Read " cancer is a fungus " and get an understanding of the effects of baking

soda on tumors, which is basically O3 and what kills cancer. It has been

proven to work. Remember the " medical establishment makes on avg. 3.2

million dollars before the patient dies. these oxygen type cures are very

inexpensive and work. I think ozone treatments are better, but more

expensive.

russ

[Guest guest]

Baking soda's been used as a cancer treatment for years. It has some efficacy

but nothing miraculous (Friedrich Douwes, M.D. from St Georg Klinik). Moss's

review:

http://www.cancerdecisions.com/content/view/228/72/lang,english

's previous comments:

" I reviewed Simoncini's web site and the tapes on that site. I listened to his

talk at the Cancer Control Society and saw the film he presented as evidence. I

saw very poor science. I didn't see anything that seemed like a cure " 4/7/09

" There is such a great variety of opinions, experiences, and observations on

bicarb for cancer at:

http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=80

....there is zero science behind [simoncini's] use of bicarb " 11/09

" some evidence that bicarb can reduce metastasis...because in some instances it

can help

neutralize the lactate acidity in the milieu of the tumor; but this has nothing

to do with the pH inside the cancer cells, nor the high amount of unwanted

sodium that is often found in cancer cells; nor in any increase of cancer cell

death by any known mechanism when used at physiologically attainable

concentrations; nor why it would work

better than any other easily available cation bicarbonate or carbonate or

hydroxide such as KHCO3 or K2CO3 or NH4OH; nor how it could throw off any of the

hundreds of other pH sensitive enzymes in the body. Those chemotherapies that

depend on ion trapping (such as mitoxantrone) baking soda can reduce the uptake

of the chemo. By

neutralizing the lactate with baking soda three times as much mitoxantrone is

needed to attain the same intracellular levels †" in other words you greatly

increase the toxicity to the rest of the body....people...have

recommended...maple syrup with sodium bicarbonate. Maple sugar...channelled into

the cancer's glycolytic pathway,

lactate rather than pyruvate is produced...would hopefully reduce that

iatrogenically speeded up metastasis....bicarb does not increase the pH of the

cancer cell -- only the environment of some tumors...The single test they did

gave mixed results with different cancer models " Gammill, 11/09

Leonard

[Guest guest]

I too saw his video but as a layman I saw some odd claims right away.

He said (I THINK) cancer is a fungus and it looks and acts like a mushroom.

He showed one like a mushroom and said it is the same color. BUT, I don't think

most cancers look the same and certainly not like a mushroom and mushrooms are

not always dark or always white as far as that goes.

I do know you can use lime on the soil to Kill mushrooms because mushrooms like

a very acid soil and you can get rid of mushrooms in the yard using lime,that

may be the only two real similarities i can see, but who am I?

Dennis

Baking soda's been used as a cancer treatment for years. It has some

efficacy but nothing miraculous (Friedrich Douwes, M.D. from St Georg Klinik).

Moss's review:

http://www.cancerdecisions.com/content/view/228/72/lang,english

's previous comments:

" I reviewed Simoncini's web site and the tapes on that site. I listened to his

talk at the Cancer Control Society and saw the film he presented as evidence. I

saw very poor science. I didn't see anything that seemed like a cure " 4/7/09

" There is such a great variety of opinions, experiences, and observations on

bicarb for cancer at:

http://www.topicalinfo.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=80

....there is zero science behind [simoncini's] use of bicarb " 11/09

" some evidence that bicarb can reduce metastasis...because in some instances it

can help

neutralize the lactate acidity in the milieu of the tumor; but this has nothing

to do with the pH inside the cancer cells, nor the high amount of unwanted

sodium that is often found in cancer cells; nor in any increase of cancer cell

death by any known mechanism when used at physiologically attainable

concentrations; nor why it would work

better than any other easily available cation bicarbonate or carbonate or

hydroxide such as KHCO3 or K2CO3 or NH4OH; nor how it could throw off any of the

hundreds of other pH sensitive enzymes in the body. Those chemotherapies that

depend on ion trapping (such as mitoxantrone) baking soda can reduce the uptake

of the chemo. By

neutralizing the lactate with baking soda three times as much mitoxantrone is

needed to attain the same intracellular levels †" in other words you greatly

increase the toxicity to the rest of the body....people...have

recommended...maple syrup with sodium bicarbonate. Maple sugar...channelled into

the cancer's glycolytic pathway,

lactate rather than pyruvate is produced...would hopefully reduce that

iatrogenically speeded up metastasis....bicarb does not increase the pH of the

cancer cell -- only the environment of some tumors...The single test they did

gave mixed results with different cancer models " Gammill, 11/09

Leonard