Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Thank you so much for your response to my post. You have such an uplifting spirit about you, I'm totally amazed. I read your story to my mother-in-law and I believe it gave her some hope, which is exactly what she needs right now. I am wondering, as is she, did you see a holistic doctor at any point or did you research everything yourself and decide for yourself what was right for you? Our main problem with getting into holistic medicine at this time is we don't know exactly what will help " her " . There are so many things out there, and it gets really confusing. For this reason, we are planning on seeing holistic physician to see what they they think will benefit her. I was just wondering your thoughts on this. Thanks again for taking the time for us. NJ Dear , Welcome. I am saddened to hear of your Mother-in-law' s cancer. Personally, I believe in the power of Hope--it costs nothing and can be done anywhere!! I was diagnosed with stage 4 tonsil cancer( metastisized) . I was told that with surgery, radiation and chemo I had a 65% chance of living 5 years-if the cancer didn't come back someplace else sooner. I'm a single mother, my son was 11y/o when I was diagnosed. For reasons I won't go into, I declined their generous western offers (except for Chemo), My largest neck tumor was 5cm x 4.5cm, I chose chemo to shrink the tumors--(chemo wasn't supposed to do that, " palliative, not curative " my Dr said). All I heard was that I was going to die, over & over. I was then ( & still am) very confident & comfortable with the choices that I made. Except for chemo to buy me time for my 'holistic medicines' to work, everything I did was designed to allow my body to heal itself. I believe in the mind/body/spirit connection, I worked on all those levels-- & still am. I believe in the power of intuition, I trust that my body knows and will tell me what it needs (How I got cancer in the 1st place is topic for another conversation) . I have been listening to my body very hard these past (almost) two years- four Dr's gave me 6-12 months when I was diagnosed & refused surgery and radiation. I believe that as long as there is a breath in my body there is Hope. I do not know what tomorrow brings, but I am not afraid to die anymore--I already walked up and embraced that. For me, death doesn't mean failure or the end, I just drop my human robe and go somewhere else. Now it's about living. Here is a list of some of the things that I've done and some I continue to do: Vit C-, garlic, Essiac tea, Hulda protcols, flax seed and cottage cheese, herbal cancer teas, herbal blood cleanser teas, lymph system cleansers, chinese medicine for cancer and lymph, all manner of vitamins & minerals, water additives to increase oxygen levels, fresh vegetable and fruit juices, the Rife machine, a biofeedback machine, footbaths, prayers, meditations, a paper listing the things I wanted to do with my son before I died, all things in preparation to die, daily gratitude lists, I have been fortunate to have people in different churches praying for me--I never negate the power of prayer. I am finally comfortable with what works for me and when it doesn't anymore, then I'll go back to the beginning and start researching all over again. I'll keep you and your family in my prayers- May we all find peace and gratitude for what we do have. With loving thoughts, Jane SpottedBird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Thank you . sorry about that long winded post I sent you. My wife said I might have dump to much information on you to fast. if I have I'm sorry. I just want to say now. what she has gone though is a lot of pain and despair, thinking a treatment will work when it hasn't, I'm an ex service man, I was told by an ex prisoner of war, that it takes a lot of courage to die. but you don't know how much courage it takes just to live. It hard at first doing holistic treatment as were use to asking doctors what to do . when I started holistic treatment the first thing I did was vitamin C. and the Dr Budwig diet. just to get my system Back in balance and remember I had prostate bone metastasis I was in so much pain I was sick from it but the change you feel in the first week is amazing my body was telling me I felt better. She just got to find that strength if God wanted us to lay down and die we would, we are meant to fight to to the last to live, but I think she will. do well she sounds like a very strong lady all God blest you both Ray From: Ventura Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 2:16 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Stage IV appendix cancer - Western medicine treatment options exhausted Thank you so much for your response to my post. You have such an uplifting spirit about you, I'm totally amazed. I read your story to my mother-in-law and I believe it gave her some hope, which is exactly what she needs right now. I am wondering, as is she, did you see a holistic doctor at any point or did you research everything yourself and decide for yourself what was right for you? Our main problem with getting into holistic medicine at this time is we don't know exactly what will help " her " . There are so many things out there, and it gets really confusing. For this reason, we are planning on seeing holistic physician to see what they they think will benefit her. I was just wondering your thoughts on this. Thanks again for taking the time for us. NJ Dear , Welcome. I am saddened to hear of your Mother-in-law' s cancer. Personally, I believe in the power of Hope--it costs nothing and can be done anywhere!! I was diagnosed with stage 4 tonsil cancer( metastisized) . I was told that with surgery, radiation and chemo I had a 65% chance of living 5 years-if the cancer didn't come back someplace else sooner. I'm a single mother, my son was 11y/o when I was diagnosed. For reasons I won't go into, I declined their generous western offers (except for Chemo), My largest neck tumor was 5cm x 4.5cm, I chose chemo to shrink the tumors--(chemo wasn't supposed to do that, " palliative, not curative " my Dr said). All I heard was that I was going to die, over & over. I was then ( & still am) very confident & comfortable with the choices that I made. Except for chemo to buy me time for my 'holistic medicines' to work, everything I did was designed to allow my body to heal itself. I believe in the mind/body/spirit connection, I worked on all those levels-- & still am. I believe in the power of intuition, I trust that my body knows and will tell me what it needs (How I got cancer in the 1st place is topic for another conversation) . I have been listening to my body very hard these past (almost) two years- four Dr's gave me 6-12 months when I was diagnosed & refused surgery and radiation. I believe that as long as there is a breath in my body there is Hope. I do not know what tomorrow brings, but I am not afraid to die anymore--I already walked up and embraced that. For me, death doesn't mean failure or the end, I just drop my human robe and go somewhere else. Now it's about living. Here is a list of some of the things that I've done and some I continue to do: Vit C-, garlic, Essiac tea, Hulda protcols, flax seed and cottage cheese, herbal cancer teas, herbal blood cleanser teas, lymph system cleansers, chinese medicine for cancer and lymph, all manner of vitamins & minerals, water additives to increase oxygen levels, fresh vegetable and fruit juices, the Rife machine, a biofeedback machine, footbaths, prayers, meditations, a paper listing the things I wanted to do with my son before I died, all things in preparation to die, daily gratitude lists, I have been fortunate to have people in different churches praying for me--I never negate the power of prayer. I am finally comfortable with what works for me and when it doesn't anymore, then I'll go back to the beginning and start researching all over again. I'll keep you and your family in my prayers- May we all find peace and gratitude for what we do have. With loving thoughts, Jane SpottedBird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Dear ,       Thank you for your lovely reply. To answer to your first question; I did research 1st, I was already using many protocols when I found a naturopath I could afford. I saw the naturopath twice, for Chinese medicine mostly-they have great! lymph cleaning /moving herbal recipes.( All cancer patients need to move the lymph system). Please don't feel bad about not knowing what will work for her. I don't believe that any of us " know " until we try. Tell your Mother-in-law to trust her instincts. As I was already stage IV at diagnosis I knew that I needed to do everything that I found out about that 1) I was comfortable trying, and 2) that was financially and logistically feasible.  I cannot strongly enough advocate trusting one's instincts. For me it was the first starting place of all.        My thoughts on visiting a holistic doctor-Kuddos!! Way to go! Great place to start getting info, don't forget the notebook to write everything down. I have a personal research rule,  here goes: If I hear the same thing from more than two completely unrelated sources, all my bells and whistles go off and I pay attention, close attention. May I suggest Vitamin C? I have taken as much as 10,000 mg daily. I would not suggest starting that high. I started at 3,000 mg a day and went up. Vitamin C is water soluable, easily found, and easy to take.  It helps build the immune system. By the time cancer is rampant, we almost don't have an immune system to speak of.  Perhaps, you could ask the holistic doctor. I f I had to go to a desert island and could only take 3 things for medicine, I would take Vitamin C, garlic (fresh, chopped-taken with water just like they were pills) and Essiac tea. I hope that you will find something here that is helpful. I continue to pray for you and your family. I feel honored to still be here and I am blessed to take the time for you and your family. With loving thoughts, Jane.   Dear , Welcome. I am saddened to hear of your Mother-in-law' s cancer. Personally, I believe in the power of Hope--it costs nothing and can be done anywhere!! I was diagnosed with stage 4 tonsil cancer( metastisized) . I was told that with surgery, radiation and chemo I had a 65% chance of living 5 years-if the cancer didn't come back someplace else sooner. I'm a single mother, my son was 11y/o when I was diagnosed. For reasons I won't go into, I declined their generous western offers (except for Chemo), My largest neck tumor was 5cm x 4.5cm, I chose chemo to shrink the tumors--(chemo wasn't supposed to do that, " palliative, not curative " my Dr said). All I heard was that I was going to die, over & over. I was then ( & still am) very confident & comfortable with the choices that I made. Except for chemo to buy me time for my 'holistic medicines' to work, everything I did was designed to allow my body to heal itself. I believe in the mind/body/spirit connection, I worked on all those levels-- & still am. I believe in the power of intuition, I trust that my body knows and will tell me what it needs (How I got cancer in the 1st place is topic for another conversation) . I have been listening to my body very hard these past (almost) two years- four Dr's gave me 6-12 months when I was diagnosed & refused surgery and radiation. I believe that as long as there is a breath in my body there is Hope. I do not know what tomorrow brings, but I am not afraid to die anymore--I already walked up and embraced that. For me, death doesn't mean failure or the end, I just drop my human robe and go somewhere else. Now it's about living. Here is a list of some of the things that I've done and some I continue to do: Vit C-, garlic, Essiac tea, Hulda protcols, flax seed and cottage cheese, herbal cancer teas, herbal blood cleanser teas, lymph system cleansers, chinese medicine for cancer and lymph, all manner of vitamins & minerals, water additives to increase oxygen levels, fresh vegetable and fruit juices, the Rife machine, a biofeedback machine, footbaths, prayers, meditations, a paper listing the things I wanted to do with my son before I died, all things in preparation to die, daily gratitude lists, I have been fortunate to have people in different churches praying for me--I never negate the power of prayer. I am finally comfortable with what works for me and when it doesn't anymore, then I'll go back to the beginning and start researching all over again. I'll keep you and your family in my prayers- May we all find peace and gratitude for what we do have. With loving thoughts, Jane SpottedBird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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