Re: What to do....Stupid Question?

[Guest guest]

It always appears to me that we go to these people for their 'opinions', because

that is all it is and wonder whether or not we are getting good information.

It's like sitting down with an Insurance Agent and expecting them to tell you,

" you don't need insurance " . Surgeons cut, Internists medicate and

Chiropractors Adjust. From time to time we meet honest people such as the

Professor at the University of Miami that told us, regarding my wife's back

pain, " Back surgery at best is mediocre " .............and he's a leading

Orthopedic surgeon. Another time regarding a serious matter he explained his

position thus...... " at some point, it is all opinion " My point? Keep this in

mind when speaking with professionals. It's often 'opinion' when something is

not obvious such as a broken bone. Perhaps more so when seeking we list

members advice. Ultimately it will be your decision (opinion). Joe C.

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NATALIE WROTE:

thanks ar, it is a very good thing to look into! i did talk to my biopsy lady

about it and she was very nice. she said that bumps in scar are really hard to

read by thermography because scars are hotter than normal skin by nature so hard

to get much info from a thermography. Maybe I should ask a second opinion from a

place that preforms them. I will look into more.

thanks,

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> > > Have you explored 'Keloids'? Growths developing after surgery often

directly on the scar itself. ?

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[Guest guest]

Obviously it's my decision but that is why I am asking for opinions in this

process. Sometimes we need to processes things by running them past people who

have been through similar issues. I am not an idiot but have only had 6 months

of cramming info about cancer and healingin my head. Not only am I running this

processes past you good people but also talking to 3 other Dr's as they are the

only people I can get opinions from. My surgeon is a ass. He took one look at

me and said " that's a sarcoma, that's a sarcoma and that's probably a sarcoma "

on 3 places where I am pretty sure they are not. It's his opinion which I have

rejected and am seeking a new surgeon! But I do have a lump in a scar and an

agressive cancer. Lots of things to think about. I don't want to make a wrong

turn as it is life and death. We can only do what we can. Thanks greatly

though for your 'opinion'. That's not sarcastic.

natalie

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> It always appears to me that we go to these people for their 'opinions',

because that is all it is and wonder whether or not we are getting good

information. It's like sitting down with an Insurance Agent and expecting them

to tell you, " you don't need insurance " . Surgeons cut, Internists medicate and

Chiropractors Adjust. From time to time we meet honest people such as the

Professor at the University of Miami that told us, regarding my wife's back

pain, " Back surgery at best is mediocre " .............and he's a leading

Orthopedic surgeon. Another time regarding a serious matter he explained his

position thus...... " at some point, it is all opinion " My point? Keep this in

mind when speaking with professionals. It's often 'opinion' when something is

not obvious such as a broken bone. Perhaps more so when seeking we list

members advice. Ultimately it will be your decision (opinion). Joe C.

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>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

That's interesting information about the scar running hot. I wonder how long

you have to wait for that to no longer be the case? I've had a yearly

thermogram since diagnosis and have never had my scar show up on it. It was 9

months or so after my lumpectomy that I had the first thermogram.

Personally, I don't fear seeding through biopsy. I took modified citrus pectin

to help keep any seeding from happening during my surgery. I would rather know

for sure what I was dealing with than guess.

Best of luck,

ar

[Guest guest]

hi Joe C. I feel in some way you might be right. I use. and do holistic

alternative  treatments, to treat my advanced prostrate cancer. I once had

prostate bone metastasis.  I ended up seeing  a naturopath. Her Advice was

good, it got my psa down from 13.8, to below 4. Then my doctor sent me to

a dietitians. Though  the diet she put me on was grate, it put my PSA up

three points, so I went back on the diet my naturopath put me on in 2007, my PSA

now below one again. So good advice is hard to fine, and who do you trust

 cheers Ray .

thanks ar, it is a very good thing to look into! i did talk to my biopsy lady

about it and she was very nice. she said that bumps in scar are really hard to

read by thermography because scars are hotter than normal skin by nature so hard

to get much info from a thermography. Maybe I should ask a second opinion from a

place that preforms them. I will look into more.

thanks,

> > >

> > > Have you explored 'Keloids'? Growths developing after surgery often

directly on the scar itself. ?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Use the black salve and cancel your appointment.

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> > yes, it could be scar tissue or a keloid. thanks for pointing it out. I am

just so torn at this point at what to do because I am not sure if I am having a

re-occourance or not and I don't want to do biopsy......

> > Black salve was mentioned to me and I have some and I guess I could just put

some on there and see what happens. I am a little nervous about doing that and

then seeing my oncol and surgeon this week. they will freak out if i have some

crazy thing coming out of my scar! Plus I am a little worried that if I have

something under my rib then there might be problems. Arg! I know many of you

have probably had this type of impasse before. Sorry for going on a bit.

> > natalie

[Guest guest]

Yes, I agree--black salve. I was diagnosed with breast cancer (2002)by my doc

and the black salve found three lymph nodes and neck, that my doc missed. Make

sure you have pain pills on hand for a few days. I made the mistake of showing

my doc my neck and she flipped out--wanted to call my son and put me in a cancer

clinic. I ran out of her office and never went back to her. I now go to Mexico

for follow up.

Pattie

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> > > yes, it could be scar tissue or a keloid. thanks

> for pointing it out. I am just so torn at this point at what

> to do because I am not sure if I am having a re-occourance

> or not and I don't want to do biopsy...... 

> > > Black salve was mentioned to me and I have some

> and I guess I could just put some on there and see what

> happens. I am a little nervous about doing that and then

> seeing my oncol and surgeon this week. they will freak out

> if i have some crazy thing coming out of my scar! Plus I am

> a little worried that if I have something under my rib then

> there might be problems. Arg! I know many of you have

> probably had this type of impasse before. Sorry for going on

> a bit.

> > > natalie

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[Guest guest]

Hi pattie, did you take the salve internally?

From: Pat Mc

Sent: 25 February 2010

Yes, I agree--black salve. I was diagnosed with breast cancer (2002)by

my doc and the black salve found three lymph nodes and neck, that my doc

missed. Make sure you have pain pills on hand for a few days. I made the

mistake of showing my doc my neck and she flipped out--wanted to call my

son and put me in a cancer clinic. I ran out of her office and never

went back to her. I now go to Mexico for follow up.

Pattie

[Guest guest]

Thanks for everyones opinions! I did try the black salve and decided if it

started to work I would cancel my doctors appointments until I was ready to go

in. Well 2 days of applying the black salve on my scar area nothing happened

but a bit of redness and one little white tiny pimple thiny. I am guessing then

that it may not be cancer then!

I might give the salve another go and cover a bit more area as I was being quite

conservative. don't worry though I won't go overboard. I may not do this at all

though as I decided to work with www.americancanceradvocates.com to get at the

cancer in my blood. They are devising a protocol tailered to me. I think I

need a bit of proffesional help here. I am too overwhelmed with what to do. I

will let you all know how it goes.

Pat Mc <pjmacblondie> wrote:

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> Yes, I agree--black salve. I was diagnosed with breast cancer (2002)by my doc

and the black salve found three lymph nodes and neck, that my doc missed. Make

sure you have pain pills on hand for a few days. I made the mistake of showing

my doc my neck and she flipped out--wanted to call my son and put me in a cancer

clinic. I ran out of her office and never went back to her. I now go to Mexico

for follow up.

> Pattie

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> Use the black salve and cancel your appointment.