Guest guest Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 AGain, it is all indvidual and why I recommend homeopathic treatment to totally individualize Sheri >Michel, > >I have a daughter who was dx with serious ADHD ( sham diagnosis as far as I am concerned) two years ago. > >Before I knew about the heavy metals issue I put her on a fortified mulit vit minerla and also high doses of EPA ( a fatty acid which is also the precursor for Prostaglandins series 3). > >She made dramatic improvements within 5 days. > >Then I found out about mercury. I have been slowly detoxing for three months with DMSA/ALA every three hours over weekends and have seen more dramatic improvements. For help in this regard go to the Autism-mercury list on . > >I would be careful about saunas with any mercury involvment. Mercury disturbs the inner temp control and a sauna could be dangerous..i.e. overheating. My daughter never sweats so I know that a sauna would put her over the top. Heck she asks for a fan when its winter time!! > >Having said that I know from a ish lady I know that the coalminers used to take amino acids and then purposely sweat in a sauna. So there are two sides..but maybe coalminers were just dealing with coal dust and not mercury.. > >Best regards, > >julie > Re: Re: Sheri...Homeopath #3 class > > > > > > Do you know of any product that eliminates metals from the body? I have > been asking and asking to no avail. > > Thanks > Michel > > > > From Joanna..... > > As mercury inhibits the excretion of other heavy metals, best to start with the mercury first. There are many methods i.e. DMSA, EDTA, NDF etc etc. > > Personally I think the safest way is a sauna. My son was mercury toxic and I sweat him. His mercury levels drop considerably after a stint of 2 hours a day x 7 days in a steam room. > > Joanna > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 I am familiar with this process. This is exactly how Magneto in X-Man 2 escaped from prison. He used his mutant magnetic powers to rip the iron from the blood of the prison guard. Great minds think alike. . _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Randall Crossley Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 3:19 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Toe Grounding comes of age I dont know if this the grounding sheet thing works on cancer or not. I do have a bob beck type zapper I use it eases the pain but Ive also found it can also help with disease. the problem with cancer is that cancer is like a condition I feel that its not realy a disease cancer is cell from us that are very damage I know magnets work to improve our health because they pull heavy metals out to the top of the skin out of the lymph nodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Apologies to the list. I have seen so much speculative, fanciful, quasi-authoritative, loose thinking on the list lately that I reflexively pointed out an example in too pointed of a reductio-ad-absurdum manner. In general, list members need to think through what the want in cancer treatments. Does one want to get well from cancer in a way that is relatively non-toxic (and this can conceivably include certain conventional treatments) or does the notion of alternative automatically exclude anything conventional? The more of a purist one is the fewer the options and the more likely one is to die for his/her beliefs. " I am only willing to do those herbs that are listed in the Old Testament, and then approved by my doctor and then muscle tested. " Nice knowing you. If on the other hand you want to cast a wide net, then you must become a purist in your selective techniques. You can't say for example I am going to treat my cancer with honey and cinnamon because my neighbor heard it somewhere. Well, again, nice knowing you. If one wants to detox metals then it is necessary to think about the details. If you want to remove radioactive cesium or thallium you use Prussian blue. If aluminum, it might be desferrioxamine. No magnet is going to do anything. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gammill Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 11:20 AM Subject: [ ] Detoxing metals I am familiar with this process. This is exactly how Magneto in X-Man 2 escaped from prison. He used his mutant magnetic powers to rip the iron from the blood of the prison guard. Great minds think alike. . _____ From: <mailto: %40> [mailto: <mailto: %40> ] On Behalf Of Randall Crossley Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 3:19 AM <mailto: %40> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Toe Grounding comes of age ..I know magnets work to improve our health because they pull heavy metals out to the top of the skin out of the lymph nodes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 hello there nice to hear about removing heavy metals in our blood have you heard Chelation theraphy EDTA check it out pls this may help medel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Medel: I have read that chlorella works better than chelation EDTA at removing heavy metals. Vic ________________________________ From: Medel Chua <medelfchua@...> Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 hello there nice to hear about removing heavy metals in our blood. have you heard Chelation theraphy EDTA. check it out pls, this may help medel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 liquid cellular Zeolite works removing heavy metals and toxens in our blood the problem is a course of it is very expensive Ray ________________________________ medel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 Heavy-metal chelation is important for most people and particularly for people healing from cancer. Oral chelation products include Detoxamin.com www.irdcorp.net/lipoflowRefEDTA.html DetoxMAX (http://bioimmune.com/pdf/DeTox%20Max%20Plus-2+002.pdf or www.healthsavers.info/ProdMoreInfo/DetoxMax-MoreInfo.htm) www.cocoonnutrition.org/catalog/page_lipoflow.php Fractionated Pectin Powder (FPP) http://thorne.com/Products/Immune-Support/Oncology_Support/prd~SF778.jsp “[Pectin] gets the mercury out of the blood somehow but doesn't touch the tissue mercury. It is not a true chelator….[Pectin] and BioChelat are safe to take even if you have existing mercury fillings†Aliss Terpstra, CNP/RNCP (knowledgeable colleague), 1/15/05 There are several other great oral chelation products on the market. Some of these remove mercury and other metals better than most IV chelations do. For more info, Gordon, Garry, M.D. [gordonresearch.com]. (2008). _Detox with Oral Chelation_. Smart Publications. During mercury detox, make strong effort to support and monitor kidneys. Eat substantial amount of protein; drink at least 10 glasses of water daily. vit. E 400 IU, selenium 200-400mcg (www.mercola.com/article/mercury/mercury_elimination.htm -- cowritten by Klinghardt) “chelators should be taken on an empty stomach, or the chelating agent will attach itself to the minerals in the food and perhaps not get into the bloodstream like you want†I think ZEOLITE is great for most people w/cancer, but don’t use zeolite it if taking Poly-MVA. http://nutramedix.com brand is used by Lee Cowden, M.D., and I suspect it’s the best brand. For more info, www.liquidzeolite.org (“non-commercial…information siteâ€) www.mwt.net/~drbrewer/zeolite.htm www.drrandy.org/article.html GARLIC, CHLORELLA & CILANTRO work together synergistically and is a standard regimen but they have major limitations. Chlorella is a great supplement but is not adequate by itself for chelation. Flor-Essence is helpful. “taking alpha lipoic acid (ALA) while you have mercury still in your mouth is the worst†(Aliss Terpstra, CNP/RNCP, 2/05) vit. C (www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/198x/smith-lh-clinical_guide_1988.htm; http://drrandy.org/wst_page5.html) “Vit. C high dose [iVC] also helps get rid of circulating mercury without pulling more out of storage†(Aliss Terpstra, CNP/RNCP knowledgeable colleague, 1/15/05) Lee Cowden, M.D. (www.academycim.com/scientific-advisory-board/w.-lee-cowden-md-md-h-3.html, 9/19/10) (whom I immensely respect) uses DMSA chelation and CHLORELLA for mercury detox. If I was considering DMPS chelation, I would get it only from a highly competent practitioner, and I’d GO VERY SLOWLY, GENTLY, AND CAUTIOUSLY. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2011 Report Share Posted March 9, 2011 I found these interesting, THANKS One flag went up to me though about 1/3 the way through I noticed they got some funding from the Sun Moon Church. At least that sent up flags to me. D http://www.fliqz.com/aspx/permalinkblank.aspx?at=ba0819d6-a923-430f-971a-c06e0b4\ dda96 & a=8c2c0bb4-a604-459c-a9bb-e5c406db8ea3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hi , I have a question about mercury. You wrote: " If one wants to detox metals then it is necessary to think about the details. If you want to remove radioactive cesium or thallium you use Prussian blue. If aluminum, it might be desferrioxamine. " 7 months ago I had a hair sample done and was toxic in quite a few areas, including Mercury. Just got the results of a 2nd hair test and all levels are now normal or a bit below - except mercury which went UP by 30%. Inbetween I did a ND administered 28 day cleanse, I eat a completely organic, 90% vegetarian diet with some small, wild caught Atlantic Salmon and other supposedly " low risk " seafood like scallops and wild caught prawns about 3 times a week. Over the last 3 months I've had all 5 of my old silver amalgam fillings replaced by a biological dentist who specializes in that. In addition I've been taking (amongst all my other natural supplements) AOR's ADP Oil of Oregano supplement. Our water is re-mineralized, 7-stage reverse osmosis and I drink nothing else, and I drink from glass or ceramic only. I haven't opened a can in 10 months. All our food is organic and I make all our meals from scratch. No caffeine, no alcohol, no sugar, no gluten, no dairy (my IDC BC was ER+). Budwig every morning. Do you think the recent dentistry, while good in the long run, will have caused a temporary rise in mercury levels? Could the small amounts of " low risk " seafood and salmon I eat be a bigger part of the problem than I thought? What's the best thing in your opinion to detox mercury? Thanks, Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Barbara, You seem to live such a pure dietary lifestyle that I wouldn't worry about such things as a 30% rise in mercury in your hair testing. If your scalp hair has been processed then look south for a suitable sample. You might increase eating foods that contain sulfur and selenium. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of BW Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 8:51 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Detoxing metals Hi , I have a question about mercury. You wrote: " If one wants to detox metals then it is necessary to think about the details. If you want to remove radioactive cesium or thallium you use Prussian blue. If aluminum, it might be desferrioxamine. " 7 months ago I had a hair sample done and was toxic in quite a few areas, including Mercury. Just got the results of a 2nd hair test and all levels are now normal or a bit below - except mercury which went UP by 30%. Inbetween I did a ND administered 28 day cleanse, I eat a completely organic, 90% vegetarian diet with some small, wild caught Atlantic Salmon and other supposedly " low risk " seafood like scallops and wild caught prawns about 3 times a week. Over the last 3 months I've had all 5 of my old silver amalgam fillings replaced by a biological dentist who specializes in that. In addition I've been taking (amongst all my other natural supplements) AOR's ADP Oil of Oregano supplement. Our water is re-mineralized, 7-stage reverse osmosis and I drink nothing else, and I drink from glass or ceramic only. I haven't opened a can in 10 months. All our food is organic and I make all our meals from scratch. No caffeine, no alcohol, no sugar, no gluten, no dairy (my IDC BC was ER+). Budwig every morning. Do you think the recent dentistry, while good in the long run, will have caused a temporary rise in mercury levels? Could the small amounts of " low risk " seafood and salmon I eat be a bigger part of the problem than I thought? What's the best thing in your opinion to detox mercury? Thanks, Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 The theory I have seen is that heavy metals detox by being moved from deep tissues to surface tissues as well as to of the bloodstream. A rise in surface tissue levels is a not unexpected consequence of detox therapies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Detoxing from Dr. Mercola http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/04/ginny-bank-on-chlo\ rella-interview.aspx Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Thanks , Yes, my head hair is highlighted (my one chemical indulgence) So we used an alternate body source for the hair sample testing I made a mistake on the mineral chelating supplement I've been taking by witing it was Oil of Oregano. I do take that for my immune system and any yeast/fungus but I meant to write Porphra-Zyme. So many supplements that it's hard to keep them all straight sometimes! The doc has now prescribed strontium to help with the mercury. I had the last of the silver amalgams replaced yesterday, so hopefully that'll be it and in the next few months the toxic mercury levels will go down. I'm glad to hear that it's probably not my diet causing that. I take selenium as a supplement, but will definitely look up foods that contain it, as well as sulphur. Thanks so much. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Barbara, You seem to live such a pure dietary lifestyle that I wouldn't worry about such things as a 30% rise in mercury in your hair testing. If your scalp hair has been processed then look south for a suitable sample. You might increase eating foods that contain sulfur and selenium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Thank you and Victor S. for your answers too. I read Mercola's article on chlorella. and the link to cookware. Looks like I'd better replace ours with ceramic. I very much appreciate everyone's help! Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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