Re: Hormone Related Breast Cancer

[Guest guest]

Hi Marti,

Yes, a QUALIFIED naturopath should be able to help. Mine also has a

degree in Chinese medicine. There are a few things you can - one of

which is to monitor your hormone levels. Please read " What Your Doctor

May Not Tell You About Breast Cancer. " Lots of great info in there as

well as a guestionaire to help determine if you have hormone imbalances

now. Also, have your adrenals tested through a 24 hour saliva test. If

you have adrenal fatigue - that can cause estrogen dominance which can

cause breast cancer.

I understand there is a urine test that will tell you if your estrogen

levels are messed up.

Vitamin D is interesting. There was just a big discussion about it on

the flaxseed oil group. I am using Vitamin D supplements because my

doctor and I already suspected a vitamin D deficiency prior to my cancer

diagnosis. Aspirin I have not heard of, but I wouldn't consider it as a

cancer preventative - but what do I know?

I am sorry to hear about the losses in your family. If the women all

had their cancer diagnosed prior to menopause, then there may be a

genetic component. You can have yourself tested for the gene mutations

to see if you carry them. I tested negative for the mutations - even

though my cancer showed up at age 42.

I would definitely stick to a healthy diet. Many use Budwig as a

preventative. But again, I don't know how good that is against the

hormone type cancers.

There are many other things you can use. So, I suggest finding a good

naturopath (one that graduated from a four-year natural medicine

college) and someone good with Chinese medicine.

My best to you.

ar

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 13:54:47 -0000, " Marti " <martileimbach@...>

said:

> Dear Arlyn,

>

> I am interested in what you are saying below abut hormones. My mother

> and several great aunts died of breast cancer (my mother was in her

> fifties) and I am trying (in my 40's) to find a way of preventing the

> disease in myself.

>

> Is there any way of influencing your hormones prior to the onset of the

> disease such that you are less likely to get it?

>

> I heard that supplementing with Vitamin D and with a small amount of

> aspirin daily might help prevent it, but you hear so many different

> things.

>

> I'm afraid I don't know the history of my mother's illness, whether it

> was estrogen sensitive or otherwise. She died almost 20 years ago.

>

> Should a naturopath be able to help?

>

> Thank you for any insights.

>

> Marti

>

> " Arlyn Grant " wrote:

> > Edwin,

> >A note of caution with raw food diets - I switched to a vegetarian -

> > mostly fruit and leafy greens - raw food diet six years ago. It did not

stop me from getting breast cancer. It did not address the hormone imbalance in

my body that caused breast cancer - nor will it cure it.

> > It is important to remember that not all cancers are the same. I bought

into the raw food dogma that if you eat this way, you won't get cancer. Thank

goodness I still went in for tests. I know other raw food women who are not

doing any yearly exams to make sure they don't have cancer growing. It's too

bad.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Arlyn, for such a useful response! I looked up the Budwig diet and it

seems as though you can add in the flaxseed mix to your normal diet (raw or

raw/cooked or whatever you do) but, as you say, I don't know what it can do

about the hormone type cancers. I will buy her book as there appears to be much

more than just the oil/cottage

cheese involved!

Most of the women in my family were post-menopausal. My mother was 53, so she

was at the age of menopause, though I don't know if she'd actually gone through

it yet. I applied for some testing here in the UK, but I haven't heard whether

I " qualify " yet. They wanted

proof that they died of breast cancer -- as though I'd have such a thing!

I think I've found a qualified naturopath in my area, but I'm not sure! He's got

a site: www.davidpotterton.co.uk

Thanks so much for the help. I'm going to get the What your Doctors May....

book as well.

Marti

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/21/08 2:07:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

arlynsg@... writes:

> There are many other things you can use. So, I suggest finding a good

> naturopath (one that graduated from a four-year natural medicine

> college) and someone good with Chinese medicine.

>

>

I read on another list that huge doses of good quality CoQ10 cured someone's

stage 4 cancer.

**************

Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Marti,

Best of luck to you!

One of the things I'm still on the fence about, is the role of

phytoestrogens and hormone driven breast cancer. Flax seed is a

phytoestrogen, so I'm not sure if I should follow the diet. I don't

mind adding a little bit of flax, but to create a diet based on it...I

don't know. I was using flax daily prior to my diagnosis, so it

obviously didn't stop the cancer from growing.

ar

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:32:19 -0000, " Marti " <martileimbach@...>

said:

> Thanks Arlyn, for such a useful response! I looked up the Budwig diet

> and it seems as though you can add in the flaxseed mix to your normal

> diet (raw or raw/cooked or whatever you do) but, as you say, I don't know

> what it can do about the hormone type cancers. I will buy her book as

> there appears to be much more than just the oil/cottage

> cheese involved!

>

> Most of the women in my family were post-menopausal. My mother was 53, so

> she was at the age of menopause, though I don't know if she'd actually

> gone through it yet. I applied for some testing here in the UK, but I

> haven't heard whether I " qualify " yet. They wanted

> proof that they died of breast cancer -- as though I'd have such a thing!

>

> I think I've found a qualified naturopath in my area, but I'm not sure!

> He's got a site: www.davidpotterton.co.uk

>

> Thanks so much for the help. I'm going to get the What your Doctors

> May.... book as well.

>

> Marti

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

>

> I read on another list that huge doses of good quality CoQ10 cured someone's

> stage 4 cancer.

>

Here are some link with information on CoQ10 and cancer.

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/07/31/cq10_coenzyme_q10_and_cancer.ht\

m

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/coenzymeQ10/patient/20.cdr

in MN

[Guest guest]

Other than by googling through keywords, are there any web sites that lists

naturopaths and those knowledgable about Chinese medicine. Also, although I

believe in accupuncture, I don't know what to think about Chinese medicine. I

tend to believe at present that there are many valuable medical remedies

developed by all societies of people. Is Chinese medicine supposed to be better

in someway? Such as because there are so many Chinese and they have been good

at keeping records, including through oral traditions, for so long?

Walter

@...: szukipoo@...: Mon, 21 Jan 2008

22:30:57 -0500Subject: Re: [ ] Hormone Related Breast Cancer

In a message dated 1/21/08 2:07:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, arlynsg@...

writes:> There are many other things you can use. So, I suggest finding a good>

naturopath (one that graduated from a four-year natural medicine> college) and

someone good with Chinese medicine. > > I read on another list that huge doses

of good quality CoQ10 cured someone's stage 4 cancer.**************Start the

year off right. Easy ways to stay in

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text portions of this message have been removed]

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[Guest guest]

>

> >

> >

> > I read on another list that huge doses of good quality CoQ10 cured

someone's

> > stage 4 cancer.

> >

> Here are some link with information on CoQ10 and cancer.

>

>

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2003/07/31/cq10_coenzyme_q10_and_c\

ancer.htm

>

> http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/coenzymeQ10/patient/20.cdr

>

> in MN

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Walter,

My ND has this list on his website for four year Natural medicine

colleges:

http://www.docvisconti.com/main_clermont.htm

National College of Naturopathic Medicine (NCNM), Portland, OR

Bastyr University, Seattle WA

University of Bridgeport, Bridgeport, CT

Southwest College of Naturopathic Medicine, Tempe, AZ

Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine, Ontario, Canada

I think a great idea is to take the best of both worlds - western and

eastern.

ar

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:07:03 -0500, " Walter Malinowski "

<waltermalinowski43423@...> said:

>

> Other than by googling through keywords, are there any web sites that

> lists naturopaths and those knowledgable about Chinese medicine. Also,

> although I believe in accupuncture, I don't know what to think about

> Chinese medicine. I tend to believe at present that there are many

> valuable medical remedies developed by all societies of people. Is

> Chinese medicine supposed to be better in someway? Such as because there

> are so many Chinese and they have been good at keeping records, including

> through oral traditions, for so long?

>

> Walter

>

>

> @...: szukipoo@...: Mon, 21 Jan

> 2008 22:30:57 -0500Subject: Re: [ ] Hormone Related Breast

> Cancer

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 1/21/08 2:07:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> arlynsg@... writes:> There are many other things you can use. So,

> I suggest finding a good> naturopath (one that graduated from a four-year

> natural medicine> college) and someone good with Chinese medicine. > > I

> read on another list that huge doses of good quality CoQ10 cured

> someone's stage 4 cancer.**************Start the year off right. Easy

> ways to stay in

>

shape.http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489[Non-\

text

> portions of this message have been removed]

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _________________________________________________________________

> Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get

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[Guest guest]

I have respect for all native medicinal traditions as they were mostly

derived through generations of use and experimentation- Native

Americans, Australian aborigines, S. American cultures, etc all have

their medicinal plants. I'm not much for history studies, but my

impression of Chinese medicine is that it was developed through more of

a scientific type of study and testing, rather than just observation,

herbs being tried for various diseases and results tabulated, over a

very long time. Perhaps this was even done in an experimental way on

unwilling patients at the decree of some Emperor. Correct me if I'm

wrong. I have used local herbs (weeds, ornamental plants) from the

classifications of Chinese medicinal herbs and they work impressively

well. I've also used Chinese herbs from the local Chinese grocery

store, like Rehmannia, Codonopsis, Morus alba (White Mulberry), Ginger,

Bitter Melon, Green Tea, and Galangal and they work marvelously well.

On Jan 22, 2008, at 6:07 AM, Walter Malinowski wrote:

> Other than by googling through keywords, are there any web sites that

> lists naturopaths and those knowledgable about Chinese medicine.

> Also, although I believe in accupuncture, I don't know what to think

> about Chinese medicine. I tend to believe at present that there are

> many valuable medical remedies developed by all societies of people.

> Is Chinese medicine supposed to be better in someway? Such as because

> there are so many Chinese and they have been good at keeping records,

> including through oral traditions, for so long?

>

> Walter

[Guest guest]

Walter

Chinese and Ayurveda are the only 2 types of natural healing that

have a system. Other types advocate certain therapies and some very

good therapies but do not have a real system from diagnosis to

wellness.

GB

>

>

> Other than by googling through keywords, are there any web sites

that lists naturopaths and those knowledgable about Chinese

medicine. Also, although I believe in accupuncture, I don't know

what to think about Chinese medicine. I tend to believe at present

that there are many valuable medical remedies developed by all

societies of people. Is Chinese medicine supposed to be better in

someway? Such as because there are so many Chinese and they have

been good at keeping records, including through oral traditions, for

so long?

>

> Walter