Re: Signs of infections requiring anitbiotics

[Guest guest]

Gita,

I think you need to find a vet you trust. I have and have had many pets

over the years. And I have treated many pets with antibiotics. I have cats,

they

get into fights, etc. and they would die without antibiotics. I don't think

you should diagnose your pet yourself. How you treat the illness is one thing

but I would never venture a diagnoses myself. In fact the other day one of

my cats starting hyperventilating and I rushed him to the emergency room and

it is a good thing I did. He was having heart failure. He is now on human

cardiac drugs. And my holistic vet said there is no other holistic treatment

for him. Without them he will have heart failure and eventually will most

likely succumb to this regardless. I will take him to an energy healer and I

will do spiritual work on him but he would be dead without the intervention of

the wonderful doctors who treated him. And if your dog has an infection it

is a horrible thing to die from and generally very treatable with antibiodics.

Debbie

gita_madhu@... writes:

What do you consider in human or dog the signs considering " antibiotic "

treatment?

What is your education or reading to support your answer to the previous

question?

What is your expectation or education vis a vis action of existing

antibiotics ?

On what do you base your need to rush or urge someone to rush to a

" doctor/vet " On what do you base your need to rush or urge someone t

I am very curious.

Thanks

Gita

[Guest guest]

Wow! What herbs do you use instead of antibiotics??? My cat with the heart

problem also has a abscess from a fight that we have been trying to clean up

with antibiotics to avoid surgery (it has been several months) and none have

worked. Now that the heart is an issue surgery would be a great risk but if

we can't clean this up it is going to have to be a consideration. They

cultured it a few days ago and we are waiting for the results.

Thanks!

Debbie

cheri607@... writes:

I have not found a real need for antibiotics. I use herbs.

That being said if the animal is definitely acting badly (sick) I will go to a

vet for a diagnosis so I can treat accordingly.

Cheri

[Guest guest]

I have not found a real need for antibiotics. I use herbs.

That being said if the animal is definitely acting badly (sick) I will go to a

vet for a diagnosis so I can treat accordingly.

Cheri

>

> Gita,

>

> I think you need to find a vet you trust. I have and have had many pets

> over the years. And I have treated many pets with antibiotics. I have cats,

they

> get into fights, etc. and they would die without antibiotics. I don't think

> you should diagnose your pet yourself. How you treat the illness is one thing

> but I would never venture a diagnoses myself. In fact the other day one of

> my cats starting hyperventilating and I rushed him to the emergency room and

> it is a good thing I did. He was having heart failure. He is now on human

> cardiac drugs. And my holistic vet said there is no other holistic treatment

> for him. Without them he will have heart failure and eventually will most

> likely succumb to this regardless. I will take him to an energy healer and I

> will do spiritual work on him but he would be dead without the intervention

of

> the wonderful doctors who treated him. And if your dog has an infection it

> is a horrible thing to die from and generally very treatable with

antibiodics.

>

> Debbie

>

>

>

> gita_madhu@... writes:

>

> What do you consider in human or dog the signs considering " antibiotic "

treatment?

> What is your education or reading to support your answer to the previous

question?

> What is your expectation or education vis a vis action of existing

> antibiotics ?

> On what do you base your need to rush or urge someone to rush to a

> " doctor/vet " On what do you base your need to rush or urge someone t

> I am very curious.

> Thanks

> Gita

>

[Guest guest]

Depends on the illness. My standard for most everything is echinecea sp? and

goldenseal. Worked on scarlett fever strep and more. I treat both human and

animal family members the same. Some swear by collodial silver sp? but I do not

have a generator to make my own and the store stuff is not as good.

Cheri

>

> Wow! What herbs do you use instead of antibiotics??? My cat with the heart

> problem also has a abscess from a fight that we have been trying to clean up

> with antibiotics to avoid surgery (it has been several months) and none have

> worked. Now that the heart is an issue surgery would be a great risk but if

> we can't clean this up it is going to have to be a consideration. They

> cultured it a few days ago and we are waiting for the results.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Debbie

>

>

> cheri607@... writes:

>

> I have not found a real need for antibiotics. I use herbs.

>

> That being said if the animal is definitely acting badly (sick) I will go to

a vet for a diagnosis so I can treat accordingly.

>

> Cheri

>

[Guest guest]

She is eating well, drinking water etc as usual, going for her walks willingly,

passing urine and motion normally. She is alert and as active as usual.

The pus appearance etc is rapidly subsiding. I also read that this is a normal

phase in a posting by women who are self treating for breast cancer (was it

here?).

" cheryl " <cheri607@...> wrote:

>

> I have not found a real need for antibiotics. I use herbs.

> That being said if the animal is definitely acting badly (sick) I will go to a

vet for a diagnosis so I can treat accordingly.

> Cheri

>

[Guest guest]

Now this is just me not a recommendation. If it was Apollo and he was eating

drinking eliminating and playing acting normal and pus is subsiding I would

watch and see what happens. Continue support maybe give echinecea and golden

seal or CS.

Cheri

> >

> > I have not found a real need for antibiotics. I use herbs.

> > That being said if the animal is definitely acting badly (sick) I will go to

a vet for a diagnosis so I can treat accordingly.

> > Cheri

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I have finally found Echinacea but soudl I give Echinacea extract, root or

purpura?

Thanks

Gita

Now this is just me not a recommendation. If it was Apollo and he was eating

drinking eliminating and playing acting normal and pus is subsiding I would

watch and see what happens. Continue support maybe give echinecea and golden

seal or CS.

Cheri

>

[Guest guest]

The most strength is in the root but all parts are good.

Cheri

> Now this is just me not a recommendation. If it was Apollo and he was eating

drinking eliminating and playing acting normal and pus is subsiding I would

watch and see what happens. Continue support maybe give echinecea and golden

seal or CS.

> Cheri

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks! It is an expensive brand-some thing called GNC...but only place I could

find...

So this plant ( which is used in Homeopathy) grows freely in your part of the

world?

Thanks again and MOlly sends you so much love

Gita

The most strength is in the root but all parts are good.

Cheri

[Guest guest]

Yes it grows here. You can also get it on the net but not sure about having it

delivered where you live.

I have my own stash (garden) of medicinal plants just in case.

Cheri

> The most strength is in the root but all parts are good.

> Cheri

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Cheri. I am finding it very hard to locate replies to my messages LOL!

Molly sends you lots of love as she is absolutely delighted with the raw feeding

-yesterday she had a chicken leg-it is such fun seeing her tackle all this!

And all the small small tips are doing so much for her.

Gita

" cheryl " wrote:

Yes it grows here. You can also get it on the net but not sure about having it

delivered where you live.

I have my own stash (garden) of medicinal plants just in case.

[Guest guest]

LOL mail is not any better. New messages inserted in the middle of old

messages.

Glad she is loving it.

Cheri

> Yes it grows here. You can also get it on the net but not sure about having it

delivered where you live.

> I have my own stash (garden) of medicinal plants just in case.

>

[Guest guest]

You folks are so brave-it's kind of lonely as there's only those who solemnly

swear that you have to cart yourself and dog to a doc/vet or those who tut tut

and leave you alone to face it LOL

It's scary, it's sad, it's happy, it's lonely but it sure is better than saying

I give up

Glad she is loving it.

Cheri