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Johanne <thewfamily> writes:

> Does anyone know of a good product to get rid of this?

Difulcan for a medication. I wanted to know if this is a safe product

because I was thinking about taking it for my candida.

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When I had similar sores, the oncologist prescribed " Magic Mouthwash " .

The pharmacist knew just what it was, and mixed four things together. It

was very effective.

Here is an explanation from Google:

" Magic mouthwash " is commonly prescribed for conditions such as

chemotherapy/radiation-induced mucositis, canker sores, mouth pain, etc. The

logic behind magic mouthwash is to combine ingredients with different

potential mechanisms of action to treat a variety of oral conditions. There

is not a standard formulation for magic mouthwash and problems can arise

when patients receive a product different from what the prescriber intended.

There is also a potential for allergic reaction to one of the ingredients if

the formulation dispensed is not intended by the prescriber. Although there

is no evidence that magic mouthwashes are effective, different formulations

of magic mouthwash continue to be prescribed. This document provides a list

of common magic mouthwash formulations and the rationale for each ingredient

used.

There are numerous magic mouthwash formulations. Most contain at least three

ingredients. Concoctions may contain a combination of an antibiotic (to

reduce the bacterial flora around the lesion), antihistamine (for local

anesthetic effect), antifungal (to stop any fungal growth), steroid (to

reduce inflammation), a local anesthetic/pain reliever, or an antacid (to

enhance coating of the ingredients on the mouth).

From: " Johanne "

> I am helping Tina who is in bed with late stage brain cancer

> (metastases). She is a fighter. I am so proud of her.

>Her husband called me to share that he believes yeast is in her mouth

> and developing sores in the back of her throat. He sent me pictures.

> She cannot swallow much because of the sores at this moment.

> Does anyone know of a good product to get rid of this? It is in her

> blood obviously and I suspect that the original tumor etc are mainly

> made of this yeast.

>Now, I know most talk about candida etc. Tina is not in a position to

> eat much or follow much of any protocol but survival at the moment.

> I just need ideas to get rid of the yeast issue. She otherwise has

> been following a good program and she has a wonderful husband that

> takes care of her like a princess.

> Thanks for all your help!

> Johanne

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On Jul 2, 2008, at 8:44 AM, Johanne wrote:

> Now, I know most talk about candida etc. Tina is not in a position to

> eat much or follow much of any protocol but survival at the moment.

> I just need ideas to get rid of the yeast issue.

There is a NASA research article on treating mucositis in bone marrow

transplant patients who get sores from radiation treatment, that would

require getting a LED array for treatment.

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:X5WT6Y6ynp8J:www.msfc.nasa.gov/news/news/re\

leases/2003/03-199.html+NASA+660+nm+880+nm & hl=en & ct=clnk & cd=1 & gl=us

Person I know selling LED arrays from another list-

www.theledman.net

This is tissue damage rather than infection though. Here is a file I

saved on yeast, while he is selling products, you could use his ideas and buy

your own. Another thing is Colloidal Silver which kills a wide variety of

pathogens.

====================================================

Conquering Yeast Infections Naturally (Revised)

By: Dr. Wong, ND, PhD.

http://www.drwong.us/ArchivedHealthArticles.htm

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[EXCERPTS OF THE ARTICLE]

....So what can be done naturally to get rid of yeast and restore the

bodies natural balance between the good and bad bugs (excuse me, micro flora)

inside of us? Let's look to nature for the answer.

So what is needed to both cure the yeast infection and raise immune

function to the point where the yeast infection is not needed as a

last ditch stand for immunity? The answer is to introduce good

bacteria into the gut and allow it to proliferate. But, that's easier said than

done. There are hundreds of strains of good bacteria. In an almost magical way,

these good bacteria change the lining of the intestinal wall into factories

for immuno supportive substances. These colonies of good bacteria clinging to

the inulin or FOS from which it feeds, create good yeast and between the two

they produce IGA-1.

With all of that said, now let's get to brass tacks. In curing a

fungal infection the natural way, several other beneficial things will follow

suit, you will:

1 Boost immune function dramatically.

2 Reduce Cholesterol

3 Defend against colon cancer

4 Prevent constipation, flatulence and abdominal bloating

5 Improve skin conditions

6 Increase tolerance of dairy products

7 Assist in fighting chronic urinary bladder infections

8 Decrease sensitivity to allergens.

Need any more convincing? There is only one caveat, this program will begin

to produce results within two weeks but, it will take months or years to drive

the bad yeast out of all of it's crooks and nannies and replace it with good

bacteria. But, long before that you will feel stronger, be healthier, and fight

off disease faster!

What to do:

1 Anti-Candida Specific Probiotic like Dr. Wong's Essentials™ Armoured

Acidophilus™: 1 teaspoon a day - therapeutic dose. This supplement of good

bacteria specialize in driving out the bad and creating the changes in the

intestinal lining that turns it into an IGA-1 factory.

2 Molybdenum: 150 mcg. 2 times a day. This mineral stops the

production of alcohol by the bad yeast in your body. This will end the brain

fog and in many patients also controls the external itching from the candida

infection.

3 B - Complex vitamins. 1 to 2 tablets or capsules a day. Find a balanced

formula where most of the vitamins are in the 50, 75 or 100-mg strengths.

4 Now to the most important part of the program - don't forget to keep it up

even though you're feeling better. You've had the candida for years, expect it

to take years to be completely rid of it from every crevice of your internal

self.

===========

Revision:

Updates To The Anti Yeast Therapy:

Through the work of Dr. Tom Revis DC, ND, I’ve discovered that plain old Cream

of Tartar powder, yes the spice, will not only alkalinize but the Cream of

Tartar powder also kills yeast all by itself! What a great combo to help with

the battle! Most folks need between 1 to 2 tablespoons of the powder daily

depending on the severity of the infection. You can mix it with water or just

plop the powder in your mouth and swallow water to wash it down. (Don’t breathe

in while the powder is still dry in your mouth as some of the still dry powder

can go down the wrong way). You can divide the tablespoon into 3 teaspoons to

take less at one shot. Expect to have the runs for the first few days using the

Cream of Tartar as the initial die off of yeast happens.

So take the cream of tartar then at a separate time take the Armoured

Acidophilus™ (1 teaspoon daily with or with out meals) and the Inulin powder

(one teaspoon 3 to 4 times a day) as well. These days I’ve been using the

Inulin from Dr. Wong's Essentials 100% Chicory Inulin (www.docsprefer.com).

All of the studies done by the German researchers from the University of Leipzig

who first successfully used Inulin used the Chicory kind.

Most docs and patients who have used this program have put a

considerable dent in their Candida Infections in 30 days without the

problem of compliance to a restrictive diet. The program will work

regardless of what you’re eating!

Dr. Wong - Jan 2006

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I have systemic yeast infection (Candida) and had thrush in the

past on my tongue. I was treatong it 2 times with Duflican but it

was back.Now I guess bc I have low v. D level and doc said I should

take 5 000 units.I believe it is also from hormonal imbalace, too

much progesterone. There is one doc who said candida cause cancer

and he treat it with sodium bicarb. I have tried it but it causes

headaches. If you friend can take it you can try water solution for

drinking.I tried diet too with 0 carbs but it was so hard that I

developed eating disorder.

Now I take Candex supplement and it works great but it will not rid

it of at all probably. I heard that some people take it for years to

get best results. It is enzymes that kill Candida and help digest

carbs.Now it hurt my stomach too so I take it only one pill with

Chlorophyll to reduce acidity.

You can also buy Acidofilius ( Lactobacilli ), herbs Pau D Arco and

Barberry. I don`t know if it is good with cancer though.If I take

such astrigent herbs or bitter herbs for a long time I feel

inbalanced and have palpitation and fatigue.It make my eating

problems worse so i am not sure.

I also know that Mouth ulcers can be treated with mouthwash with

Myrr. I didn`t try it though.

Liz

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> Johanne <thewfamily> writes:

> > Does anyone know of a good product to get rid of this?

>

>

> Difulcan for a medication. I wanted to know if this is a safe

product

> because I was thinking about taking it for my candida.

>

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Even docs know it is toxic for liver so they prescribe it for few days

only. I had to go to infectios desease doc bc my doc don`t know much

about it and was afraid to prescribe it second time. Only after 8 days

in it it was gone but candida was back in few months.

The most important is to take care of immnune system and nutrition.

If you check it you may find some deficiency like vitamin D or other.

Hormonal imbalace can be a reason. I believe I got Candida after

progesterone shot for birth control but it was mild. After antibitotic

treatment for H Pylori it became systemic.

Liz

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> Johanne <thewfamily> writes:

> > Does anyone know of a good product to get rid of this?

>

>

> Difulcan for a medication. I wanted to know if this is a safe

product

> because I was thinking about taking it for my candida.

>

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Re: Diflucan, imsinfo writes:

> Even docs know it is toxic for liver so they prescribe it for few days only.

My doctor said ONE day. That's it. I would of course take milk thistle as I

do every day.

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The premier natural remedy for all mycotic infection is oil of oregano. But in

order to rid yourself of a systemic yeast infection, you must rotate every 2

weeks with different antifungals in additon with multiphasic probiotics not just

acidophilus.

The only oil of oregano I use is Oreganol or Oregamax.

Antifungal kits are available from http://www.bioactivenutrients.com

Probiotics: Dr Ohhira's probiotic 12 plus.

Protocol: 2 week intervals then 3 days off.

1. Eliminate all sugar from diet natural or processed.

    No alcohol, no dairy either.

2. Take antifungals in small amounts as often as possible, at least every hour.

'Often' is the operative word.

3. Take probiotics in loading doses to start.

    Do not take at same time as antifungals at least 30 minutes after you take

an antifungal and least 1 hour before you start again on antifungals

    Week 1  6 in the morning  6 in the evening

     Week 2  4 in the morning  4 in the evening

     Then stay on three in the morning and three in the afternoon for 6 months.

     DO NOT STOP taking probiotics during off cycles.

4.  All fungal infections produce acid so they seriously deplete your minerals

especially your electrolytes. I recommend taking potassium/magnesium aspartate 6

per day along with drinking water with half of a lemon squeezed in it for your

calcium.

5. You need chlorophyll to purify the blood. I use Sun Chlorella, at least 15

per day.

6. If the yeast infection is really nasty I would take beta glucan available at

nsc24.com. This is the only micronized form available which makes it almost

totally absorbable.

7.  You will get rid of any fungal infection in 3 months using this protocol.

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On Jul 2, 2008, Johanne wrote:

Now, I know most talk about candida etc. Tina is not in a position to eat much

or follow much of any protocol but survival at the moment.

I just need ideas to get rid of the yeast issue.

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In a message dated 7/6/08 2:29:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jcheeze@...

writes:

> I do agree with Doug that most cancers are fungus.

>

The gypsy that cured my friend's dog of terminal cancer said that cancer is a

mold. What about the cancers that we know are viruses?

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Probiotics are used for many purposes.

I like Dr Ohhirras because it does not need refrigeration.

But my favorite is Natren.

sjmiddleburg writes:

> Probiotics: Dr Ohhira's probiotic 12 plus.

I have tried many of these probiotics and the best (and most expensive) by far

is VSL#3. Without it I would probably be dead.

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Hi, I'm a new member. Sounds like you watch Doug Koffman's show, " Know The

Cause " too? I try to stick to the diet most of the time. If I fall off I just

get back on tract the next day and try to keep going. I have CLL so I have to

be careful about getting my immune system up too high (just makes more white

blood cells). I do feel better on the diet and the juicing is great. I do

agree with Doug that most cancers are fungus.

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       All raw apple cider vinegar will develope mother . Mother in vinegar

looks something like a " cob web " in it.

        Both Eden and Bragg are good brands. I'm able to find both at most

health food stores.

                                                      Joe/turtle

From: Arlyn Grant <arlynsg@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Systemic yeast infection

Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 1:55 PM

On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 13:52:38 EDT, szukipooaol (DOT) com said:

> In a message dated 7/6/08 12:41:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> sjmiddleburg writes:

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> > Apple Cider Vinegar with the mother nonpasteurized

> >

>

> what exactly does this mean? Mother nonpasteurized?

If you take a look at bottles of apple cider vinegar, you will see that

some of them have a cloudy substance in them. This is the " mother. " It

will also say " with the mother " on the bottle.

ar

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arlynsg123mail (DOT) org

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I was googling fungus and Cat's Claw, which is an herb I take, and

found this site which also lists Berberine and things on 's list-

http://www.fungusfocus.com/html/product_guide.htm

On Jul 6, 2008, at 9:33 AM, wrote:

> Other antifungals are:

> Caprylic Acid

> Pau d Arco

> Neem

> Undecylenic Acid

> Olive Leaf Extract

> Apple Cider Vinegar with the mother nonpasteurized

> Garlic

> Cinnamon

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I bought some VCO, and it was liquid..then i put it in the fridge, and now it is

solid...its easier to take as a liquid...is it OK to lave it at room temp, or

are you supposed to refrigerate it , after opening it?

From: Edwin Casimero

VCO detox gets rid of systemic yeast infection.

Very fast, very effective.

http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/virgin-coconut-oi\

l-detox

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i also know that Dr Blaylocks Wellness report says to take VCO 3 times a day..as

a cure for cancer..he's a retired neurosurgeon, who now treats ca patinets using

detox and natural means ONLY

From: Edwin Casimero

VCO detox gets rid of systemic yeast infection.

Very fast, very effective.

http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/virgin-coconut-oi\

l-detox

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Hi ,

VCO never solidifies in my country because we have a tropical climate.

We never refrigerate VCO.

VCO has never spoiled on me.

Regards,

Edwin

VINCENT TOKATLIAN wrote:

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> I bought some VCO, and it was liquid..then i put it in the fridge, and

> now it is solid...its easier to take as a liquid...is it OK to lave it

> at room temp, or are you supposed to refrigerate it , after opening it?

>

>

> From: Edwin Casimero

>

> VCO detox gets rid of systemic yeast infection.

> Very fast, very effective.

>

http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/virgin-coconut-oi\

l-detox

>

<http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/virgin-coconut-o\

il-detox>

>

>

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If I had systemic yeast infections today, I would bomb the heck out of

the yeast with all the means I know today:

#1 switch to a raw paleolithic diet with the variant high fat, low

carb. See http://www.rawpaleo.com

#2 use virgin coconut oil for detoxing as in http://tinyurl.com/vcodetox

#3 supplement everyday with 2 to 8 drops per day of super concentrated

wild oregano oil, see Dr. Cass Ingram's book.

#4 supplement everyday with olive leaf extract.

#5 have daily full body massages with 1/2 cup of virgin coconut oil and

add 10 drops of concentrated wild oregano oil.

#6 At the same time do sitz baths everyday and see my chiropractor or

dorn method specialist and correct my spine

I see no reason why with all these non-toxic, cheap and absolutely

powerful to the max methods one should live with yeast infections to

this very day. Everyone should be cured of yeast.

Have a nice day everyone,

Edwin

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