Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 Dear D Darr, Yes, it will, but it works better if you ozonate water and then wash the fruit in it. Cheaper, and just as effective, is to wash the fruit in hydrogen peroxide 3%. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH OZONE > Can anyone tell me if ozone treatment of fresh fruits and vegetables will neutralize herbicides and pesticides. It seems that I have heard of this before but cant remember for sure. Thanks. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 Would it be just as effective to just use water? It seems this would be sufficient for cleansing the outside as well as anything. It is what is on the inside that is tough to get at. OZONE > > > > Can anyone tell me if ozone treatment of fresh fruits and vegetables will > neutralize herbicides and pesticides. It seems that I have heard of this > before but cant remember for sure. Thanks. > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 Hi everyone, Can someone in easy English explain for me what is osonated water, how can I get it, or make it? Thanks. Pouran Saul Pressman <saul@...> wrote: Dear D Darr, Yes, it will, but it works better if you ozonate water and then wash the fruit in it. Cheaper, and just as effective, is to wash the fruit in hydrogen peroxide 3%. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH OZONE > Can anyone tell me if ozone treatment of fresh fruits and vegetables will neutralize herbicides and pesticides. It seems that I have heard of this before but cant remember for sure. Thanks. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2001 Report Share Posted June 13, 2001 Dear , Water is good. It is the exterior where 95% of the pesticides are. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LOH OZONE > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if ozone treatment of fresh fruits and vegetables > will > > neutralize herbicides and pesticides. It seems that I have heard of this > > before but cant remember for sure. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability > to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > > the message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2001 Report Share Posted June 19, 2001 In a message dated 06/19/2001 8:32:17 PM Central Daylight Time, Rabbitbrain@... writes: Hello Group, Can someone please tell me how I can put ozone into things. I have also recently heard of people drinking parts of Hydrogen Peroxide in their daily diet for all kinds of reasons. Has anyone heard of this and is there a difference between the stuff we buy in the brown bottle at Walgreens or is there a food grade quality. It really sounded intersting but I know what it does to my skin. I can't imagine what it does once you get it inside. Thanks for your reply. Many Blessings, Deb _______________________ Deb, oxyplus-subscribeegroups Join the above group and you'll find out all you want to know about ozone and HP. plus a whole lot of other stuff. Edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2001 Report Share Posted June 20, 2001 I drank the hydrogen peroxide before and it made me constipated. It doesn't happen to all persons. So drinking it is out for me. LIZ D Ozone Hello Group, Can someone please tell me how I can put ozone into things. I have also recently heard of people drinking parts of Hydrogen Peroxide in their daily diet for all kinds of reasons. Has anyone heard of this and is there a difference between the stuff we buy in the brown bottle at Walgreens or is there a food grade quality. It really sounded intersting but I know what it does to my skin. I can't imagine what it does once you get it inside. Thanks for your reply. Many Blessings, Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2001 Report Share Posted June 22, 2001 Hi Deb, this is a unscientifically explanation! lol The Ozone, is a machine/generator, that puts out a gases that can be put in olive oil to use like a antiseptic cream, (cuts and rashes), or it can be put in water to drink, other treatments ozone sauna's intravenous treatments muscular injection ozone baths blood purification all of the above treatments kill, Bactericidal, Virucidal and Fungicidal action. Food grade hydrogen peroxide is 35% and needs to be diluted to 3% for most uses, and is pure no stabilizers added, the 3% you can buy at the store has chemical stabilizers in it and is not recommended for oral use. This also has tons of uses to get oxygen into the body, to kill bacteria, viruses and fungus Laurie weshine4Him@... wrote: Hello Group, Can someone please tell me how I can put ozone into things. I have also recently heard of people drinking parts of Hydrogen Peroxide in their daily diet for all kinds of reasons. Has anyone heard of this and is there a difference between the stuff we buy in the brown bottle at Walgreens or is there a food grade quality. It really sounded intersting but I know what it does to my skin. I can't imagine what it does once you get it inside. Thanks for your reply. Many Blessings, Deb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2001 Report Share Posted July 3, 2001 In a message dated 07/02/01 2:55:16 PM Central Daylight Time, franruiz@... writes: Has anyone tried this therapy? I use this regularly, attached to a colonic machine, and the benefits are unbelievable....I leave from the session feeling like a new person, and any time I've had a yeast infection it is totally gone after the treatment. My parents get chelation therapy at a clinic which also offers ozone therapy intraveneously. They have seen quite a bit of success with aids patients and because I have herpes, in addition to candida, my mom has been after me for sometime to get this done as well. However, due to my tendency to faint at the sight of a needle, and because its not a death sentence like aids is, I have chosen not to receive it. I understand that blood is drawn, then ozone is injected into it. It is then returned to the body, now a slightly different shade of red, and the process is repeated over and over again, over several weeks or months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 The can says it is "chiefly MgO and beneficial gases. Non-toxic Bound by a proprietary process and released by catalysis." I assume the catalysis is the lemon. The information found on the web pages is that ozone gases is charged into the MgO. This is released with stomach acids and lemon. This process is suppose to release the ozone. (MgO-magnesium oxide) I can only say I feel better overall with this product. I am interested in the product you posted to see if there is a difference. One thing I noticed is what I recently post to Paco is that ozone lasts for a short duration. That is why once you charge your water with ozone you must drink it right away or keep it in the fridge but it doesn't last long there. So does homozon contain ozone? Can it possibly produce ozone along with the catalysis? I don't know for myself. This is what THEY claim. Confusing but it works so well. Anyone with a sluggish gut must give this type a product a try. How long have you used your product? And what results have you seen? If you wanted to try it I know someone who sells Homozon cheaper than the web sites. Write me and I can give you the address. At the bowel cleanse group there are those who used a product called Bioxy and it cleaned their system the same as this product has. Bioxy doesn't claim to have ozone in it and it works and I think it is cheaper. LIZ D Re: ozone Thanks for the info.----------From: Rabbitbrain@...To: candidiasis Subject: Re: ozoneDate: juev., 5 juli 2001 04:22 Paco, I remember Mog saying she bought a devicefrom Dr. s site to make her own ozonated water.The ozone quality isn't as high as these expensive modelsout there but it is a start. Also it doesn't store well. Must drink it up. I have been using a bowel cleanse product called Homozon.This is charged with ozone and magnezium and sends oxygeninto your system. But for most persons it causes major diarrhea.It was made to do that. These are two simple starters if you wantedto try small. I found out that Canada sells over the counter a productcalle Bioxy, It is similar to the Homozon but I don't think it has ozonein it. LIZ D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2001 Report Share Posted August 5, 2001 hi, Im using an ozone sauna and I cant seem to get it tight enuf to not breathe in some of it also....any suggestions? ditto for cupping it over the ear.....I think it flows thru to my mouth and then gets breathed. Jaen Treesinger Bengals from the RainForest ........amazingly smart, incredibly fast and just gorgeous! Check out new pictures on our website at: http://www.bengal-cat.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2001 Report Share Posted August 5, 2001 Get a small fan and have it blow on your face or past your face. Home Depot has a nice 7 " clip on fan for $8.00. D Re: ozone hi, Im using an ozone sauna and I cant seem to get it tight enuf to not breathe in some of it also....any suggestions? ditto for cupping it over the ear.....I think it flows thru to my mouth and then gets breathed. Jaen Treesinger Bengals from the RainForest .......amazingly smart, incredibly fast and just gorgeous! Check out new pictures on our website at: http://www.bengal-cat.com OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2001 Report Share Posted August 5, 2001 Dear Jaen, Use a fan to blow across your face to blow escaping ozone out an open window. Don't cup over the ear. If you don't have an ear adapter, place the end of the silicone tubing into the ear canal. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH -------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jaen Treesinger <rainforest@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: ozone Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 11:25:59 -0700 hi, Im using an ozone sauna and I cant seem to get it tight enuf to not breathe in some of it also....any suggestions? ditto for cupping it over the ear.....I think it flows thru to my mouth and then gets breathed. Jaen Treesinger Bengals from the RainForest ........amazingly smart, incredibly fast and just gorgeous! Check out new pictures on our website at: http://www.bengal-cat.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2002 Report Share Posted April 11, 2002 Lenny, Congratulations, I am glad you found something that works for you. God bless, KJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2002 Report Share Posted September 17, 2002 has anyone here tried ozone? http://cat007.com/o2.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2002 Report Share Posted November 16, 2002 A less expensive form of oxygen that I have had great success with is Homozon. It is a powder that you mix with water and oxygenates the body. It has been extremely beneficial to me. It can be purchased at Azure.com. I am interested in the Ironizer Air Purifier. I feel it is a better first step.I have looked into putting oxygen in my water, I found the cheapest machine about 350.00, and a pain in the neck to use. However I looked into this before I was diagnosed with such a difficult illness to cure. They actually sell suits to adapt to the machines. So not only can you oxygenate your water but you can use it as a chamber for the whole body too. Just a little more onfo to learn by: Bernadette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 Dear Jill, I am in Vancouver. Yes, come on down. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ - ----Original Message Follows---- From: " jill1313 " <jenbooks13@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: agrisept for mold/fir Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:11:30 -0000 Right. I may still visit you in Seattle one of these days...for my 3 month trial to get well. Offer still open? But not for a while. Anyway, the point about hyperbaric is it is not just breathing oxygen, it is forcing it into plasma which then goes into tissue, under pressure. That's why it can be used for instance for brain trauma--to heal brain injury. > Dear Arthur, > > O2 + O1 = O3 > > O3 = O2 + O1 > > It is the singlet O1 that is doing the work. The O2 is just along for the > ride. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------- > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: " aluckower " <aluckower@n...> > Reply-oxyplus > <oxyplus > > Subject: Re: Re: agrisept for mold/fir > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:36:49 -0400 > > maybe saul could explain it better > > i thought ozone was o3. the oxygen singlet gets released because ozone is > unstable, and then you are also left with o2. this is where i thought the > similarity lied. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Hi Dean. Nice to see you here. On the subject of reading up before asking Saul questions I would encourage anyone to contact Saul directly and ask for his free books and read up and then ask questions as reading the oxyplus archives could be incredibly frustrating. So much is talked about there and people are so not disciplined when it comes to subject lines that getting good ozone info could drive you nuts. But directly reading Saul's free books would help a person cut to the chase. One again his web address is http://www.plasmafire.com and I believe you can download his books right from there and print it off and read it. That is what I did. Blessings, Donna http://www.excellentthings.com Ozone Janet , I second Donna's advise about ozone sauna and N America's foremost expert, Saul Pressman, you can read the archives at oxyplus one of the like this one, he is a major contributor and co- moderator of that group, and the archives would be a good place to bone up before you posed any questions to him. I would pack my bags and go to his clinic in Canada tomorrow, I find him remarkable in his treatment for diseases and his dedication to ozone...Dean On Thursday, December 4, 2003, at 12:41 AM, CountryGirl wrote: > Hi Janet. If you want to just cut to the chase instead of chasing > lots of dead ends I would encourage you to look into ozone which is > used in other countries to eliminate cancer in a way that boosts the > immune system instead of destroying it. Saul Pressman is a resource > for free info on this and also for units for self treatment. You > can find him at http://www.plasmafire.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Ozone? Hydrogen Peroxide has the same effect, -and a lot cheaper. -- In , " CountryGirl " <ruthful@p...> wrote: > Hi Dean. Nice to see you here. > > On the subject of reading up before asking Saul questions I would encourage anyone to contact Saul directly and ask for his free books and read up and then ask questions as reading the oxyplus archives could be incredibly frustrating. So much is talked about there and people are so not disciplined when it comes to subject lines that getting good ozone info could drive you nuts. But directly reading Saul's free books would help a person cut to the chase. One again his web address is http://www.plasmafire.com and I believe you can download his books right from there and print it off and read it. That is what I did. > > Blessings, > Donna > > http://www.excellentthings.com > > > Ozone > > > Janet , I second Donna's advise about ozone sauna and N America's > foremost expert, Saul Pressman, you can read the archives at oxyplus > one of the like this one, he is a major contributor and > co- moderator of that group, and the archives would be a good place to > bone up before you posed any questions to him. I would pack my bags and > go to his clinic in Canada tomorrow, I find him remarkable in his > treatment for diseases and his dedication to ozone...Dean > On Thursday, December 4, 2003, at 12:41 AM, CountryGirl wrote: > > > Hi Janet. If you want to just cut to the chase instead of chasing > > lots of dead ends I would encourage you to look into ozone which is > > used in other countries to eliminate cancer in a way that boosts the > > immune system instead of destroying it. Saul Pressman is a resource > > for free info on this and also for units for self treatment. You > > can find him at http://www.plasmafire.com > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2004 Report Share Posted March 12, 2004 Dear le, One ear is plugged up. Keep doing it, and it will clear eventually. Good going on the liver cleanse. I am surprised the engineer would think the sauna was a danger near the boiler. I assume he is thinking about the amount of oxygen being brought into the area. The amount of oxygen brought into the area by the concentrator in 30 minutes is 15 liters, if it is running at 1/2 l/m. That is about the same amount as you breathe in 30 minutes. It is a negligible amount. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ --------------------- ----Original Message Follows---- From: " le Kayser " <gkayser@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: ozone Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:21:55 +0000 Hi everyone; I have been drinking the ozonated water and seem to be doing well with it. The v. insuflation caused some stinging and some spotting but only the first time. The second time no bleeding. Ear insuflation is a little tricky, last time one ear I could hear the hum of the motors, the other ear I did not, but when I took the ear piece out there was a build up of ozone, which of course I got a big whiff off. However I just coughed a bit, my lungs did not bother me as much as the first few whiffs I got. Did a liver cleanse yesterday, which went well. Saw a lot of little stones and a lot of " gravel " . Now here is my biggest concern. Because of problems with getting the sauna in the house, I wound up setting it up in the basement. The window does not open, I open the window on top of the stairs and a fan. An engineer friend said that it was dangerous to have it in the basement not to far from the boiler. There is a wall between the boiler and the location of the ozone equipment. Saull, do you think this a dangerous situation? Also could I have some of that long tubing to move the concentrator away from the generator. Thanks in advance le _________________________________________________________________ Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage – 4 plans to choose from! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2004 Report Share Posted March 13, 2004 Many Kinds of engineers out there Dwight Munson ozone > Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 14:21:55 +0000 > > Hi everyone; > > I have been drinking the ozonated water and seem to be doing well with it. > The v. insuflation caused some stinging and some spotting but only the first > time. The second time no bleeding. > > Ear insuflation is a little tricky, last time one ear I could hear the hum > of the motors, the other ear I did not, but when I took the ear piece out > there was a build up of ozone, which of course I got a big whiff off. > However I just coughed a bit, my lungs did not bother me as much as the > first few whiffs I got. > > Did a liver cleanse yesterday, which went well. Saw a lot of little stones > and a lot of " gravel " . > > Now here is my biggest concern. Because of problems with getting the sauna > in the house, I wound up setting it up in the basement. The window does not > open, I open the window on top of the stairs and a fan. An engineer friend > said that it was dangerous to have it in the basement not to far from the > boiler. There is a wall between the boiler and the location of the ozone > equipment. Saull, do you think this a dangerous situation? > > Also could I have some of that long tubing to move the concentrator away > from the generator. > > Thanks in advance > > le > > _________________________________________________________________ > Store more e-mails with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage - 4 plans to choose from! > http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/ > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the > message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 > There was a discussion about some negative effects of ozone in some > other listgroup I am a member at. Some folk said that ozone could > even cause bleeding of the lungs due to the strong oxidation of > them. I can send you the link if you wish. Used properly, ozone can be quite effective at reducing bacteria and molds, and also ozone generators ususually produce negative ions which are also good for your health. The problem that often happens is that people buy ozone generators which produce far more ozone than would normally occur in nature, and that these generators sometimes produce a harmful byproduct called nitric acid. The Biozone Scientific models (which is what I assume Glenn is using) are probably not too strong -- they use a UV light bulb and a fan. I've actually spent more money on trying various air purifiers/filters than I have on EMF protection devices, and am currently using Biozone Scientific models myself. They do a pretty good job. Of course, there is a lot of misinformation on the Internet that all ozone is dangerous, and should be avoided. But there is a lot of misinformation on the Internet about all kinds of things (e.g, mercury fillings are not bad for you, flouridated water is good for you, etc.) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2005 Report Share Posted February 8, 2005 Hi Flavio, The Biozone product is engineered to have extremely low levels of ozone. Ozone is good for you in small quantities, just like it is good to walk outside after it rains - when ozone is created naturally. Problems occur when people use Ozone generators which produce only ozone, and at high levels. Biozone is not considered an ozone generator as such, because it has ozone as a byproduct of producing photoplasma/photochemical molecules, and the levels of ozone are very low. These photoplasma/photochemical molecules are less harmful and do a better job of killing viruses, allergens, etc., with a very low volume of plasma. My son was sick from when he was a baby until he was 8 years old with every cold and lung problem one can imagine. We were so concerned because he had been on antibiotics about 20 times in those 8 years. Then I bought a biozone to help me with cat allergies - it got rid of my allergies so I could keep our new cat. As a side effect, suddenly my son stopped being ill, and hasn't had any major illness for two years. We seldom have flu viruses that last longer than a few hours in hour household. The biozone seems to help clean viruses from air passageways, so they don't have a place to thrive (that is the only explanation I have for why we get healthy so quickly and hardly ever get colds). We installed a Biozone in my son's classroom at school, and monitored absenteeism. Last year in the winter there were many flus and colds going around the school, and many kids were absent from many classes - that is except my son's class. From Sept to Dec they had no absenteeism due to colds/flus. The local newspaper was going to run a story on it. We use a Biozone in our vehicle too, and it eats up exhaust smoke when exhaust comes in through vents - protects us from dangerous fumes. We don't feel as tired after sitting in traffic jam - not as gassed out. So we're very pro-biozone given how it has improved our health. Glenn >From: " flavio_novelo " <flavio_novelo@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: incense and red candles... EMF dissipation?? >Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:40:40 -0000 > > > > I use a powerful whole-house air purification system by Biozone, >that eats > > up toxins from incense. > >Dear Glenn, > >Isn't the ozone a strong oxidiser? Aren't you negativelly affected by >the ozone? the one task of ozone is oxidising living matter be it >bacteria in the air or water or human tissues. > >This unless you are talking about negative iones which are of a >reducing nature instead of th oxidising ozone's nature > >There was a discussion about some negative effects of ozone in some >other listgroup I am a member at. Some folk said that ozone could >even cause bleeding of the lungs due to the strong oxidation of >them. I can send you the link if you wish. > >Flavio > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2005 Report Share Posted September 24, 2005 I got this in the mail today. Interesting info regarding ozone. I seem to recall hearing of people trying to increase their environmental levels of oxygen by using ozone generators. Regards, Andy Careaga Subject: Ozone Ozone Generators [Reproduced from Alison ??™s November 1996 newsletter] [For information on ??™s books and videos, see www.conceptmed.com/] During the last few years, many EIs have started using ozone generating machines in an effort to reduce toxic substances in their homes or cars. While ozone generators do serve certain useful purposes, it is becoming increasingly clear that too many people are unaware of the substantial risks involved in their indiscriminate use. Some people, for example, are running ozone generators at a constant low level in their living quarters in an attempt to counteract new carpeting and other toxic products. Others are using small devices known as personal air purifiers that are worn around the neck and put out a noticeable amount of ozone. The first issue to consider is whether ozone itself is a health hazard when used in an occupied space. Morton Lippmann, Institute of Environmental Medicine, New York University Medical Center, discusses this question in an article entitled " Health Effects of Tropospheric Ozone " : O [ozone] was recognized as a powerful lung irritant soon after its initial synthesis in 1851. . . . The acute response effects in the population at large are reductions in lung function and increases in respiratory symptoms, airway reactivity, permeability, and inflammation. . . . It is suggested that repetitive elicitation of acute responses will lead to chronic damage to the human lung of the kinds seen after chronic exposure studies in rats and monkeys. .. . . The plausibility of accelerated aging of the human lung caused by chronic O exposure is greatly enhanced by the results of a series of recent chronic animal exposure studies in rats and monkeys. In an article entitled " Use of Ozone Generating Devices to Improve Indoor Air Quality, " Mark F. Boeniger of the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health in Cincinnati states: Chronic exposure to irritation in the lung also may lead to permanent damage. Hence, chronic exposure of experimental animals to ozone (lasting several months to several years) has been shown to cause irreversible obstructive airway disease. Concentrations as low as 60 ppb [parts per billion] have been associated with fibrosis and emphysematous changes. The changes observed have been equated with premature aging of the lung. Of particular interest is Boeniger's description of experiments in which it was demonstrated that rapid olfactory fatigue occurs in the presence of ozone. " Henschler et al. found that at 20 ppb ozone, the initial odor among 10 test subjects could no longer be detected after 30 sec to 12 min. . . . Thus, the sense of smell when used to warn of the presence of elevated concentrations of ozone appears to be unreliable when exposure is continuous. " Olfactory fatigue is an issue of particular importance to EIs who may have been given the impression that it is all right to run an ozone generator in a room they are occupying provided that the odor remains barely detectable. It is clear, however, that because of olfactory fatigue, the person occupying the room might fail to notice a gradual increase in the level of ozone. In 1990, the Department of Occupational Health of the State of Minnesota received a report about a building in which four portable Alpine Air Model 250 air purifiers had been installed. One worker who had severe asthmatic reactions could no longer work in the building after the introduction of these ozone generators. In the district court of the Tenth Judicial District, a trial was held with the State of Minnesota as plaintiff and Alpine Air Products, Inc., and its president as defendants. The court made the following " Findings of Fact " : 20. In marketing their air purifiers, defendants instruct users to operate Alpine purifiers according to their sense of smell. Consumers are to increase the ozone production of the machine until they can smell the gas. Defendants represent that Alpine purifiers are safe when used as directed and that the " smell test " ensures that ozone levels will not exceed .02 to .03 ppm [20 to 30 ppb]. 21. The greater weight of the evidence established that the sense of smell is not a reliable measure for ozone and that defendants' " smell test " does not ensure safe levels of ozone. The evidence showed that the sense of smell varies among individuals . . . and that ozone causes olfactory fatigue, leaving people unaware that they are breathing unhealthful or hazardous levels of the gas. A declaratory judgment against Alpine Air Industries was entered by the court on November 22, 1991. Recent experiments have shown that ozone air purifiers do not remove as many contaminants from indoor air as users may have been led to believe. In fact, there is clear evidence that although they reduce some toxins, in certain circumstances they actually produce new volatile organic compounds. Boeniger states: Weschler et al. performed studies on the effect of ozone on volatile emission products from new carpets. . . . The primary VOCs [volatile organic compounds] emitted from new carpets, such as phenycyclohexene, styrene, and 4-ethenylcyclohexene, were reduced sharply. At the same time, however, a number of new compounds were detected that were not present prior to introducing ozone. The new compounds were primarily linear aldehydes and formaldehyde. . . . In addition, after ozone was introduced, the TVOC [total volatile organic compounds] concentration increased about four fold. It is worth remembering that if you are using an ozone generator to counteract new carpet odor and olfactory fatigue sets in, then you may not notice the odor of the aldehydes and formaldehyde being produced. In the conclusion of his article, Boeniger writes: " Subjective claims of improved air quality may instead be explained by evidence indicating that ozone may act only to cover up odors or to convert some odorous compounds to less odorous but potentially more toxic compounds. " In a study entitled " Effect of an Ozone-Generating Air-Purifying Device on Reducing Concentrations of Formaldehyde in Air, " J. Esswein and Mark F. Boeniger discuss the results of their experiment to see if ozone generators would be effective in reducing the levels of formaldehyde normally experienced in certain areas of mortuaries. They concluded: " Concentrations of formaldehyde were virtually identical with and without 0.5 ppm [500 ppb] ozone. . . . The results of this investigation suggest that the use of ozone is ineffective in reducing concentrations of formaldehyde. . . . Considering the toxic nature of the substance, the use of ozone to improve the quality of indoor air does not appear to be warranted. " ________________________________________________________________________________\ ________________________________________________________________ Subject: Ozone Generators - Part two Banta, an environmental consultant, has provided me with the following statement concerning prudent use of this toxic gas: During my professional career I've seen ozone gas used as a tool for treating structures for various types of environmental problems. Ozone has become a fad which is now being promoted by many multi-level pyramid sales people that have very little idea what they are promoting. There is much false information available, yet ozone can be a useful tool if used properly with reasonable expectations. The following information summarizes my understanding of the use of ozone for indoor air quality treatments. I am not a physician and will not comment on the use of ozone for medical treatments. Ozone is good for some types of odor treatment. There are some chemicals, smoke odors and musty smells that can be reduced or eliminated by ozone treatment, but this does not mean that ozone will cure the problem! When ozone is used for fire damage, the charred wood must first be removed or the odors will return. When ozone is used for mold odors, the cause of the molds (moisture) must be corrected and the mold infested materials and spores removed. Ozone typically does NOT kill mold. It can remove the musty smell, but the mold growth is still able to come back. Think of mold as being similar to a plant. It has mycelia which are similar to the roots of a plant. It has vegetative growth which could be compared to the plant body, and it has spores which are like seeds. Trying to kill mold by exposing it to ozone is like trying to kill grass by mowing it down to the ground. The grass grows back, and so will the mold. In addition, mold spores are very difficult to kill and have been shown to survive high levels of ozone. Even if the ozone would kill the molds or their spores when used at very high levels, it would not remove them from the air and those particles could cause severe reactions. There have been studies which have shown ozone will kill some types of molds under ideal conditions (like on a glass slide or disk), but when tests have been scientifically conducted on killing molds on building materials like sheet rock--it is NOT effective. Studies have shown that very low levels of ozone gas are damaging to lung tissue and can reduce the ability to breathe. Ozone generators that are designed to put out low levels of ozone on an on-going basis have caused severe and sometimes life-threatening reactions, reduced lung function, lung damage, and can be especially dangerous for asthmatics. It is also important to remember that when ozone is used as a building treatment, there is no control over what type of chemical reaction will occur. Some perfumes and fabric softener fragrances are made worse by ozone, and very strong chlorine smells can result when ozone comes in contact with chlorinated compounds. Poorly designed or maintained generators can produce other noxious gases beside ozone. In summary, ozone treatments must always be done carefully. The only way I ever will use or recommend ozone is as a fumigation technique with no people, pets, or plants present while the ozone is being used. A window should be left open slightly to allow some fresh air into the area being treated. The area should be allowed to air out for a while after treatment before reoccupying the area, and there is always the possibility that the ozone treatment will ruin the area for occupancy by some people. I've sold ozone generators in the past, and I still suggest their use under some circumstances, but they should only be used by individuals familiar with their operation and willing to accept the risks associated with them. 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Guest guest Posted January 2, 2006 Report Share Posted January 2, 2006 rpautrey2, Hi I've been taking ozonated water since the beginning. It gets rid of bacteria in the water and oxygenates for healing. I find the water soothing to my stomach. When I drink it consistantly my sores heal faster. I've never noticed 'feeling' any better after drinking it but notice a big difference in my cats when I give it to them. --nh From: " rpautrey2 " <rpautrey2@...> Subject: Ozone Is ozone water effective and safe to use for candida? __________________________________________ DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2006 Report Share Posted January 3, 2006 > > Is ozone water effective and safe to use for candida? ==>Yes, it is fine and safe to take. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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