Breast Cancer & Budwig Plan /was: CC/FO vs PCa

[Guest guest]

" Arlyn Grant " wrote:

> The reports for hormone related breast cancer and CCFO are also

sketchy. I think alternatives and lifestyle changes are essential in

dealing with cancer. But, one of the most important things is to

recognize that not all cancers are the same. To tell someone to use

a protocol that might not be for their cancer, is dangerous. It's my

personal opinion that Budwig may work well for non-hormonal cancers,

but so far, I can't see how it would work for those cancers related

to hormones.

>

Hi Arlyn,

I agree that no one should tell another person what treatment they

should follow for cancer. I hope that no one in the flaxseedoil2 group

is doing that. I and other members do try to explain what we know

about this protocol and what it can do.

In the FlaxseedOil2 group files section in Folder 6, there are ten

testimonials from members who had breast cancer, some with mets to

the bones, who became cancer free while following the Budwig

protocol.

Below are explanations of how the Budwig plan is especially good for

people with hormone-related cancers. The following three messages

were posted to the FlaxseedOil group and are in the archives.

From Wilhelm-a strong researcher of the Budwig plan.

" I mention flaxseeds especially for breast cancer and prostate cancer

sufferers because they lower the estrogen dominance in women and in

men. There are many quotes on this subject on the net. Here are some

that I have available:

" Lignans [part of the flaxseeds] subdue cancerous changes once

they've occurred, rendering them less likely to race out of control

and develop into full-blown cancer, " says flax researcher Lilian

, Ph.D., professor of nutritional sciences at the University

of Toronto.

Lignans show particular promise for battling breast cancer. They do

this by blocking the effects of estrogen, which, over time, seems to

increase breast cancer risk in some women. Even when estrogen-

sensitive tumors get a chance to grow, lignans exert a restraining

influence that can slow or even halt their growth. In a laboratory

study, breast tumors in animals given flaxseed shrank by 50 percent

in seven weeks.

Flaxseed has two additional cancer-fighting secrets. It's a rich

source of polyunsaturated fats, including omega-3 fatty acids, which

appear to limit the body's production of chemicals called

prostaglandins. This is important because prostaglandins, in large

amounts, can " speed up tumor growth, " says Bandaru S. Reddy, Ph.D.,

chief of the division of nutritional carcinogenesis at the

American Health Foundation in Valhalla, New York. "

http://www.naturalhair.org/wellness/flax.htm

From Tina - Aug. 8, 2007

I was diagnosed with stage IV breast cancer of April 2006. About

halfway through chemo, I started seriously looking at what

alternative program I was going to do to keep the cancer away. I was

very happy to find the Budwig protocol and started it about 5-6 weeks

after my last chemo. I refused tamoxifen and arranged with my

oncologist to do my PET scan after four months, so we could both see

if my alternative program was working. Now, I know that I was a bit

short-sighted since it often takes longer than that to get a cure

with Budwig. However, for me, I was cancer free at that time and

was able to continue to refuse the tamoxifen.

If you do a google on ground flaxseeds, and tamoxifen, you will find

that the ground flaxseeds have much the same effect AND they don't

decrease in effectiveness as chemical estrogen blockers will do.

As a footnote - about three months ago I was not sticking to the

protocol very well. The pain in my hip came back with a vengeance one

morning. I spent a day having a pity party, and then got back on the

protocol very carefully. I figured I would give it another chance

before I called my doctor. It was with great relief that my pain was

reduced within a couple days, and practically gone within a week.

While having the pain return was scary, it was also a blessing in

that I got to prove to myself - when the pain went away - that this

protocol REALLY DOES WORK!!! (yes!)

On August 12, 2007, wrote:

" Tamoxifen is a selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM). It

binds to the estrogen receptor so the strong estrogen cannot. Because

of this, the cancer cannot grow. Flaxseed is a weak plant estrogen.

Because of this, it binds to the estrogen receptor just like

Tamoxifen. But since it's a " weak " estrogen, it's not strong enough

to cause the cancer to grow, but it does block that receptor

so the strong estrogen can't do it. "

Arlyn, I hope you and others find this information helpful.

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

I thank you for your detailed and authoratative replies, based on

your reading, research, personal experience and the testimonies of

numerous flaxseedoil2 members.

The Budwig Protocol is one of the very few cancer healing modalities

for which such a significant body of testimonial evidence exists. Not

only can people read the testimonies, but I know that in some cases,

they can exchange emails or telephone calls with those who have given

their testimonials on the flaxseedoil2 board. Such " anecdotal " evidence

is extraordinarily valuable in helping me to decide which protocol to

try.

Regarding 's comments, I know that he made them in the spirit of

helping us all, just as you made your own comments. That's the spirit

we need in order for us all to benefit most from this board.

I thank you both for your valuable contributions to the board.

Best wishes,

Elliot

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Thank you for your informative post. I was interested in what wrote

below. Is it that the flaxseed prevents the " unopposed " estrogen from increasing

the tumor size. Is that what " strong " estrogen means?

Also, I wonder if you think it would have a similar effect in a person who was

cancer-free -- that is preventing the unopposed estrogen from damaging the DNA?

Thank you,

Marti

> On August 12, 2007, wrote:

> " Tamoxifen is a selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM). It

> binds to the estrogen receptor so the strong estrogen cannot. Because

> of this, the cancer cannot grow. Flaxseed is a weak plant estrogen.

> Because of this, it binds to the estrogen receptor just like

> Tamoxifen. But since it's a " weak " estrogen, it's not strong enough

> to cause the cancer to grow, but it does block that receptor

> so the strong estrogen can't do it. "

>

> Arlyn, I hope you and others find this information helpful.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marti,

I'm glad you found my post helpful. Yes to both of your questions.

Flaxseeds and their oil seem to be able to keep estrogen in check so

that it does not promote tumor growth. Also, yes to prevention. Dr.

Budwig wrote that her plan can work to prevent cancer as well as help

to heal it. This would include not only flaxseeds and flaxseed oil

plus quark or CC, but also a healthy diet and lifestyle which she

maps out in her books and we send the summary of to each hew member

when they join the FlaxseedOil2 group. That document is called " The

Introduction to the Budwig Protocol " and each new member

automatically receives it by email.

Marti " wrote:

> Dear ,

> Thank you for your informative post. I was interested in what

wrote below. Is it that the flaxseed prevents the " unopposed "

estrogen from increasing the tumor size. Is that what " strong "

estrogen means?

> Also, I wonder if you think it would have a similar effect in a

person who was cancer-free -- that is preventing the unopposed

estrogen from damaging the DNA?

> Thank you,

> Marti

>

>

> > On August 12, 2007, wrote:

> > " Tamoxifen is a selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM). It

> > binds to the estrogen receptor so the strong estrogen cannot.

Because of this, the cancer cannot grow. Flaxseed is a weak plant

estrogen. Because of this, it binds to the estrogen receptor just like

> > Tamoxifen. But since it's a " weak " estrogen, it's not strong

enough to cause the cancer to grow, but it does block that receptor

> > so the strong estrogen can't do it. "

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I find all the information helpful. Thank you for taking the time to

post.

I used flaxseed daily for over a year and a half and still got breast

cancer - on a vegetarian raw food diet. Now, it is possible that my

cancer was at such a small stage because of the flax seed. I guess I

will never really know.

What concerns me is that IF the flaxseed is a positive thing for

estrogen driven breast cancers, it still does not fix what is causing

the hormone embalance in the first place. So, perhaps it is a great

treatment, but not a cure. I am trying to find the root cause of the

hormone problem and fix that.

Thank you, again.

ar

--

Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Arlyn,

What was the flaxseed product that you used? Just the straight oil or did you do

the mixing as per the Budwig protocol?

Flaxseed oil is tricky stuff. It is a very, very volatile oil like all of these

essential oils. I think it is very easy for it to go off. And, as you say, it

may not do what you hope it will do

anyway in the case of hormonally driven breast cancer. One hopes, of course.

In England I cannot find organic cottage cheese! I'm thinking I'm pouring

estrogen into my body using this 1% stuff from the supermarket! I'm going to

have to switch to the yogurt which I can get organic, but that means I have to

strain it

Like you, I don't like to be in the kitchen too long!

Have you been using progesterone creams or any of the other ideas from " What

your doctor May not tell you.... " I got my book yesterday -- thanks for

recommending it.

Marti

" Arlyn Grant " wrote:

> Hi ,

> I find all the information helpful. Thank you for taking the time to post. I

used flaxseed daily for over a year and a half and still got breast cancer - on

a vegetarian raw food diet. Now, it is possible that my cancer was at such a

small stage because of the flax seed. I guess I will never really know.

> What concerns me is that IF the flaxseed is a positive thing for

> estrogen driven breast cancers, it still does not fix what is causing the

hormone embalance in the first place. So, perhaps it is a great treatment, but

not a cure. I am trying to find the root cause of the hormone problem and fix

that.

> Thank you, again.

> ar

[Guest guest]

Hi Marti,

I have not started using any creams yet. My ND and I did a 24 hour

saliva test and found I have adrenal fatigue - which can cause estrogen

dominance and may lead to breast cancer. So, for now, we are supporting

my adrenals in hopes of getting them repaired. This, if it was the

cause of the estrogen dominance, should help to heal that problem. We

are using the one thing at a time approach as I have just completed my

radiation treatments. So now it is time to figure out what else to do.

The flaxseed product I used was something called E7. It's a powder with

lots of stuff in it that was recommended to me by someone who has been

on Budwig for years. I stopped using it because of cost and because

there were a lot of other ingredients/chemicals in it I didn't want to

continue taking. Perhaps if it were something as pure as Budwig, I

might not have developed cancer. But again, we really never know the

full truth.

I'm sorry you can't find organic cc in England. It's so frustrating

when you can't find what you want. Straining yogurt sounds awful.

I really don't like either yogurt or cc so I am hesitant to even

start Budwig.

More power to you!

ar

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Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...

[Guest guest]

Arlyn

You might want to try yoga exercises that have side twist in them

such as the half spinal twist. Also shoulderstand and plough are

excellent for stress. Yogic scriptures say that 15 minutes of

shoulderstand is equal to 2 hours of sleep.

GB

>

> Hi Marti,

>

> I have not started using any creams yet. My ND and I did a 24 hour

> saliva test and found I have adrenal fatigue - which can cause

estrogen

> dominance and may lead to breast cancer. So, for now, we are

supporting

> my adrenals in hopes of getting them repaired. This, if it was the

> cause of the estrogen dominance, should help to heal that problem.

We

> are using the one thing at a time approach as I have just completed

my

> radiation treatments. So now it is time to figure out what else to

do.

>

> The flaxseed product I used was something called E7. It's a powder

with

> lots of stuff in it that was recommended to me by someone who has

been

> on Budwig for years. I stopped using it because of cost and because

> there were a lot of other ingredients/chemicals in it I didn't want

to

> continue taking. Perhaps if it were something as pure as Budwig, I

> might not have developed cancer. But again, we really never know

the

> full truth.

>

> I'm sorry you can't find organic cc in England. It's so frustrating

> when you can't find what you want. Straining yogurt sounds

awful.

> I really don't like either yogurt or cc so I am hesitant to even

> start Budwig.

>

> More power to you!

>

> ar

>

> --

> Arlyn Grant

> arlynsg@...

>

[Guest guest]

GB,

I looked at the photos of those positions...um, I can't do those. Both

would cause subluxation in my shoulders or neck. I can, however, lift

my legs in the air.

ar

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:22:40 -0000, " Guru K " <greatyoga@...> said:

> Arlyn

>

> You might want to try yoga exercises that have side twist in them

> such as the half spinal twist. Also shoulderstand and plough are

> excellent for stress. Yogic scriptures say that 15 minutes of

> shoulderstand is equal to 2 hours of sleep.

>

> GB

--

Arlyn Grant

arlynsg@...