Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Dear Glen; I think what you want is the one answer. Have you noticed how many conflicting answers there are about everything? Consistency...truth...reality? Depends on what you believe! This may help you find your own conclusions. Placebo effect studied in Japan. They asked for volunteers to be exposed to poison ivy. When one volunteer began scratching a rash and felt the burning pain in his arm he wondered why he bothered to be part of this study. He was later told that the leaves rubbed on his arm were NOT poison ivy and not harmful. ....The dis 'ease " is the person believing , creating it!. If you fear it you create it..If you are born with a vibration that brings sickness ,,it can be dealt with Here's the point 'the Healers' are the person themselves' Another Surgeon I think Ernie Segal? in his book Love Miracles and cures ....decribed the multiple personality individuals who had medical exams... The same person ....would have diabetes and wear prescription glasses as one personality and not have diabetes but heart disease and 20/20 vision in another exam. If we believe in " A " healer they will take the credit..If you realize its you yourself...and you do have the power to allow or disallow it on yourself. You can save yourself a lot of money.Whether you believe in Physicians or Reiki Masters. I have practiced Quantum Touch and found some amazing results...It is something beyond " human " energy . It comes with breathing..we all have it. Find Peace..fear nothing esp death...there you will find the truth it is within you. Lina .. --------- Hello folks. Are there any healers* out there who have consistent significant results with cancer? * faith healers, hands on and distance energy healers, Chi gung, Reiki, " Pleiadian " , Huna, Maori, Quantum Touch, Matrix Energetics, Quantum Techniques, etc. Any tips? Thanks much! Glen from Illinois, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I do not believe any sensible and deep-thinking person would rule out the mind's influence upon our body. That said, is there any sensible, deep-thinking person that believes it has all to do with every malady? One cannot violate every physical rule and then 'think' themselves to well-ness just as probably nobody that practices good physical habits but has bad mental practices can expect not to pay the piper somewhere down the road. Mental peace has its place and perhaps more than we think. Let us assume we bring cancer upon ourselves because of some mental trauma. Would the cessation of that trauma result in a cure? If it can at all, surely not if the cancer has progressed enough. People having a strong belief in the psychological aspect to illness need to keep teaching others about it but cannot put all the blame for cancer or other disease solely on the back of mental trauma. Nothing, not smoking, not mental trauma or meat eating causes cancer all the time in every case and that is obvious or should be to anyone on this list for any length of time. The same principle applies to getting well from cancer- Nothing works for all people all the time. Brighter people than me have uttered those words more often than me. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Cancer can only be cured by making drastic life style changes. There are no magic treatments just a lot of hard work on the part of the owner. This so-called disease is simply a normal and expected reaction to conditions within the body that can no longer take abuse. All cancer patients have impaired immune systems, their body humors are full of trash and areas where lymphatic flow becomes stagnant, tumors form. Tumor formation is a protection mechanism that walls off accumulated trash and encapsulates it in what is hopefully an oxygen deprived containment vessel. Organisms that we carry with us then shift their identity to become scavengers that only thrive in a fuel rich food of dead tissue in an environment low in oxygen. If successful, the material contained within the tumor will be broken down fully at which time digestive enzymes will dissolve away the tumor, returning the material back into the body to be burned by normal metabolism. There are external energies that can impact this process but only altering the internal soil can this organism responsible for tissue destruction be stopped. This process was well-known by a few doctors early in the last Century and they successfully eradicated this disease in their patients. " Cancer is Nature's protest against disobedience and is the penalty she imposes upon those who, perhaps knowingly or unknowingly, have ignored her teachings. " Bell, MD - 1913 You can apply Voodo, crystal pendulums, prey, worship dead cats or whatever but only by cleaning up the pollution in the body fluids can this condition be made to disappear. Carmi Hazen > > Hello folks. > > Are there any healers* out there who have consistent significant results > with cancer? > > * faith healers, hands on and distance energy healers, Chi gung, Reiki, > " Pleiadian " , Huna, Maori, Quantum Touch, Matrix Energetics, Quantum > Techniques, etc. > > Any tips? > > Thanks much! > Glen from Illinois, USA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I can give you the names of two VERY excellent healers. Dr. Rick Levy Gaithersburg, land 301-346-8620 _DrrLevy@..._ (mailto:DrrLevy@...) _www.drrickLevy.com_ (http://www.drrickLevy.com) He has an excellent book out. He is an amazing healer. I know him very well. Also Avery Kanfer Rockville, MD _AveryKanfer@..._ (mailto:AveryKanfer@...) I can't find his phone number at the moment but if you can't find it, let me know. He is also excellent. Good Luck, Debbie Tolson Potomac, MD In a message dated 6/10/2009 7:10:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, zanaglen@... writes: Hello folks. Are there any healers* out there who have consistent significant results with cancer? * faith healers, hands on and distance energy healers, Chi gung, Reiki, " Pleiadian " , Huna, Maori, Quantum Touch, Matrix Energetics, Quantum Techniques, etc. Any tips? Thanks much! Glen from Illinois, USA **************Dell Deals: Don’t miss huge summer savings on popular laptops starting at $449. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221770187x1201425153/aol?redir=http:%2\ F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215566131%3B37864407%3B i) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 In my country, there's Vander Gaditano: http://www.curemanual.com/blog/2009/04/vanderbilt-gaditanos-healing-farm-is-a-sa\ nctuary-for-the-sick-and-terminally-ill-looking-for-a-cure/ In the USA, there's Dr. Jerry Hoover: http://www.curemanual.com/mind-cures-paradigm-shifts/book-natural-medicine Best wishes, Edwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Addendum to my list: Aajonus Vonderplanitz! http://www.wewant2live.com/ Raw animal meat, raw fat, raw juiced vegetables, 1 raw fruit a day. Food is your best medicine and this is how it is done. I combine all their protocols: dr Hoover, Aajonus, Vander Gaditano... Best wishes, Edwin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 Cessation of a trauma result in a cure? Define cessation. define when life starts or stops...there have been debates over that also. Cessation of trauma would result in a cure. IT Could be that simple! With trauma the memory of it is stored somewhere is the body...in its mind.. it relives; it rethinks it..even when there are no more symptoms there are fears. Even when you haven't thought of it in years...That nagging pain in your body is remembering it. We do it all the time. Lina From: JCastron1 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Healers with results with cancer? I do not believe any sensible and deep-thinking person would rule out the mind's influence upon our body. That said, is there any sensible, deep-thinking person that believes it has all to do with every malady? One cannot violate every physical rule and then 'think' themselves to well-ness just as probably nobody that practices good physical habits but has bad mental practices can expect not to pay the piper somewhere down the road. Mental peace has its place and perhaps more than we think. Let us assume we bring cancer upon ourselves because of some mental trauma. Would the cessation of that trauma result in a cure? If it can at all, surely not if the cancer has progressed enough. People having a strong belief in the psychological aspect to illness need to keep teaching others about it but cannot put all the blame for cancer or other disease solely on the back of mental trauma. Nothing, not smoking, not mental trauma or meat eating causes cancer all the time in every case and that is obvious or should be to anyone on this list for any length of time. The same principle applies to getting well from cancer- Nothing works for all people all the time. Brighter people than me have uttered those words more often than me. Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Hi Glen, While understanding that healing does come from within there are some 'external' sources of help that kick start the process. I am an EFT practitioner (Emotional Freedom Technique) so I use it on myself each day to promote healing. I also have a personal relationship with a Shaman who has helped to guide me on my healing journey. I have lung cancer with brain mets and so far so good. I have also found insight by Hamer's New German Medicine. There is an interesting article online called " The Science of Voodoo " which helps explain why our internal 'talk' is important in healing. And finally, there is an online site on Tong Ren Therapy that hosts an open healing session for cancer once a week if you are interested. http://www.tomtam.com/ I have come across several 'healers' who have a reputation for healing cancer but I have never pursued those leads. Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Dear Cheryl, Thanks for the tips. << I have come across several 'healers' who have a reputation for healing cancer but I have never pursued those leads. >> Do any names come to mind, off the top of your head? Thanks much! Glen from Illinois, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 In reference to Faith healers and energy healers that work. In May of this year the 23rd I went to see Kurt He is an energy healer. I am in remission according to all the tests Here is his website Http://www.cancertouch.com He takes referrals only mention H Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 , << In reference to Faith healers and energy healers that work. In May of this year the 23rd I went to see Kurt He is an energy healer. I am in remission according to all the tests >> That is wonderful. If you have a minute, would you please share some more details on this healing? Thanks much! Glen from Illinois, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Wow.. the fees some of these healers charge is insane. If I could do what they claim to do, I sure wouldn't be charging an arm and a leg to 'heal' their brains, breasts or prostates. If I could do what they do, I would walk into every hospital I could, free of charge, and do my thing. ~ **************Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222677718x1201465083/aol?redir=http:%2\ F%2F ad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215692163%3B38015526%3Be) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Thousands of dollars, it is crazy!!! ________________________________ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of justkitten1@... Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Healers with results with cancer? Wow.. the fees some of these healers charge is insane. If I could do what they claim to do, I sure wouldn't be charging an arm and a leg to 'heal' their brains, breasts or prostates. If I could do what they do, I would walk into every hospital I could, free of charge, and do my thing. ~ **************Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222677718x1201465083/aol?redir =http:%2F%2F <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222677718x1201465083/aol?redir =http:%2F%2F> ad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215692163%3B38015526%3Be) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Glen, Feel free to email me privately -- [ ] Re: Healers with results with cancer? , << In reference to Faith healers and energy healers that work. In May of this year the 23rd I went to see Kurt He is an energy healer. I am in remission according to all the tests >> That is wonderful. If you have a minute, would you please share some more details on this healing? Thanks much! Glen from Illinois, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 , I understand that's admirable. BUT it takes so much out of you. I asked him about this when I saw him after my treatment...he said he is in bed after the treatments till morning to re-coup. -- [ ] Re: Healers with results with cancer? Wow.. the fees some of these healers charge is insane. If I could do what they claim to do, I sure wouldn't be charging an arm and a leg to 'heal' their brains, breasts or prostates. If I could do what they do, I would walk into every hospital I could, free of charge, and do my thing. ~ **************Dell Days of Deals! June 15-24 - A New Deal Everyday! (http://pr.atwola com/promoclk/100126575x1222677718x1201465083/aol?redir=http:%2F%2F ad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215692163%3B38015526%3Be) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Well, I do energy work. I have done some healing, but it small stuff, only. I would never be able to pull together the focus needed for something like cancer. Plus, I have done no energy work since my own cancer treatment. I can tell you that it is exhausting and requires a tremendous amount of focus and stamina. Plus, you have to make sure that you are working on people who truly want the treatment to work. ar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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