Re: Question about blood test.

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WBC10.1

Neutrophilis  79

Lymphs 16

monos 5

eos0

baso 0

neutrophils  7.96

lymphs   1.61

all Others were normal

My question is if this indicates bacterial infection or dying of cancer tumor.

Will I need antibiodics to clean up the dying debree? Thanks for any insight.

Vic

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Tumor die-off is sometimes apparent from bloodwork if the tumor load is

large and the die-off rapid. You get more info from the blood chemistry

rather than the CBC as you want to look for hyperkalemia and azotemia.

Antibiotics are useless for this.

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Victor Swiercz

Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:51 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Question about blood test.

WBC10.1

Neutrophilis 79

Lymphs16

monos 5

eos0

baso0

neutrophils 7.96

lymphs 1.61

all Others were normal

My question is if this indicates bacterial infection or dying of cancer

tumor.

Will I need antibiodics to clean up the dying debree? Thanks for any

insight.

Vic

[Guest guest]

,

 

Thank you for your kind response. Here are the  test:

EGFR 115 (normal no normal values given on  EGFR

 

Comp Metabloic Panel

sodium 143

potasium  4.2

chloride  108*** high (98-106)

co2 content 28

bun  14

creatinine\0 .54

glucose\91\  calcium \ 9.6

protin total serum  6.9

albumin\  4.1

bilirubin adult tot.\0.3

alk phosphatase \  80

sgot (ast)\ 19

Sgpt (alt)\  19

The platelet count is high.

607

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I am not sure these are the test that you needed to determine if there is a

bacterial infection or just massive tumor die off. I am running a fever

100-100.6. I have only slight pain in the area of the tumor. The tumor is 6

inches long and is most likely a uterine sarcoma. Thank you for your comments.

\ 

If you could comment on these as well and explain hyperkalemia and azotemia in

laymans terms for a good friend.

Vic

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From: Gammill <vgammill@...>

Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 11:32:34 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Question about blood test.

 

Tumor die-off is sometimes apparent from bloodwork if the tumor load is

large and the die-off rapid. You get more info from the blood chemistry

 

rather than the CBC as you want to look for hyperkalemia and azotemia.

Antibiotics are useless for this.

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Victor Swiercz

Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:51 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Question about blood test.

WBC10.1

Neutrophilis 79

Lymphs16

monos 5

eos0

baso0

neutrophils 7.96

lymphs 1.61

all Others were normal

My question is if this indicates bacterial infection or dying of cancer

tumor.

Will I need antibiodics to clean up the dying debree? Thanks for any

insight.

Vic

[Guest guest]

hi Vic,

It's like your fighting some kind of infection. what does your doctor say?

  

Neutrophilis 79 - normal 40 to 72 so white blood cell a bit high but it will be

if it's been an fighting infection

 

Lymph normal % range returns protein and excess interstitial fluid to the

circulation. Lymph picks up bacteria and brings them to lymph nodes to be

destroyed. metastatic cells can also be transported via lymph. Lymph also

transports fats from the digestive system.

baso or Basophils are gone or use up.  Basophils are part of your imune

system that normally protects your body from infection, but can also be partly

responsible for your asthma symtoms. Basophils are a type of white blood cell

that are involved in inflammatory reactions in your body, especially those

related to allergies and asthma. When stimulated, basophils release histamine

and other enzymes that can lead to inflammation, bronchoconstriction, and asthma

symptoms.

When you are exposed to allergens such as molds or animal dander an lgE antibody

binds to the allergen and stimulates the basophils to release histamine.

Classic

asthma symptoms follow the release of histamine.

 

Eos is 0  as An increased number of eosinophils in the blood (eosinophilia)

usually indicates the response of the body to abnormal cells, parasites, or

substances

Baso,is O - Basophil are RBC, Red Blood Cell, they Decreased with anemia;

increased when too many made and with fluid loss due to diarrhea, dehydration,

burns ect

neutrophils  7.96

I wont go into nitrite/nitrate plasma levels or on neutrophil and platelet

adhesion as it will just take me to long

 

lymphs 1.61 I wont go in to

have you have had radiation? this may indcate DNA damage

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From: Victor Swiercz <roadmst1@...>

Sent: Sat, 26 March, 2011

 

WBC10.1

Neutrophilis  79

Lymphs 16

monos 5

eos0

baso 0

neutrophils  7.96

lymphs  1.61

all Others were normal

My question is if this indicates bacterial infection or dying of cancer tumor.

Will I need antibiodics to clean up the dying debree? Thanks for any insight.

Vic

[Guest guest]

There is no evidence of die-off from the blood chemistry.

Hyperkalemia = high serum levels of potassium

Azotemia = high serum levels of nitrogen containing compounds such as urea

Her temperature should be monitored. If it continues she might want to

culture her blood.

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Victor Swiercz

Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:05 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Question about blood test.

,

Thank you for your kind response. Here are the test:

EGFR 115 (normal no normal values given on EGFR

Comp Metabloic Panel

sodium 143

potasium 4.2

chloride 108*** high (98-106)

co2 content28

bun14

creatinine\0 .54

glucose\91\ calcium \9.6

protin total serum 6.9

albumin\ 4.1

bilirubin adult tot.\0.3

alk phosphatase \ 80

sgot (ast)\ 19

Sgpt (alt)\ 19

The platelet count is high.

607

\

I am not sure these are the test that you needed to determine if there is a

bacterial infection or just massive tumor die off. I am running a fever

100-100.6. I have only slight pain in the area of the tumor. The tumor is 6

inches long and is most likely a uterine sarcoma. Thank you foryour

comments.

\

If you could comment on these as well and explain hyperkalemia and azotemia

in

laymans terms for a good friend.

Vic

\

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From: Gammill <vgammill@...

<mailto:vgammill%40roadrunner.com> >

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Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 11:32:34 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Question about blood test.

Tumor die-off is sometimes apparent from bloodwork if the tumor load is

large and the die-off rapid. You get more info from the blood chemistry

rather than the CBC as you want to look for hyperkalemia and azotemia.

Antibiotics are useless for this.

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From: <mailto: %40>

[mailto: <mailto: %40> ]

On

Behalf Of Victor Swiercz

Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:51 AM

<mailto: %40>

Subject: Re: [ ] Question about blood test.

WBC10.1

Neutrophilis 79

Lymphs16

monos 5

eos0

baso0

neutrophils 7.96

lymphs 1.61

all Others were normal

My question is if this indicates bacterial infection or dying of cancer

tumor.

Will I need antibiodics to clean up the dying debree? Thanks for any

insight.

Vic

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Depending upon the lab, “normal†can be different with each one. For

example, my test revealed a normal range of 44.0 – 76.0 which is still higher

but not by much but then again even high normal is high. Yet another uses a

different ‘normal’. Things change so quickly one needs ore than one test

to determine where they are or follow up tests to determine really out of range

results.. For example my previous blood work indicated Anemia in my results

while my latest had me in the ‘normal range’. ?? We can say white blood

cells are high, but when you check your CBC the White Blood Count is in the

normal range. Have you discussed these results with the person that ordered

the tests to get their take on it?

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Thanks :

I am having to learn new terms. Yes the temp is the concern and is being

monitored. So far the temp has not gone high enough to require hospitalization.

Vic

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vincent good observation and a point    

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I find it strange that it would be grate if  temp can be one way our immune

systerm could fight cancer as no  cancer can live in temp highter then 107f

(32c) but a temp of above 105 will kill us

A fever of 105 or 106, even if it does not kill you, can leave you with

permanent brain damage. Yes, fevers can be serious.

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From: Victor Swiercz <roadmst1@...>

Sent: Sat, 26 March, 2011 10:21:15 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Question about blood test.

 

Thanks :

I am having to learn new terms. Yes the temp is the concern and is being

monitored. So far the temp has not gone high enough to require hospitalization.

Vic

[Guest guest]

Fever is usually a beneficial process of the body’s defense mechanism. From

what I have learned and watched and read about, it is the ‘heroic’ efforts

by people or physicians to suppress the fever that results in problems. It is

an established fact, not my theory that fever is usually beneficial not

deleterious. As for the 105 degrees? On more than once occasion my

children and a nephew that we are caring for reached 105 and they were bed

rested with no food and only distilled water until the fever broke. This is not

for everyone because if one wants to listen to the medical ‘exspurts’

(spelling intended) most would have you lower any temperature instead of

allowing it to do what it does best.....help us get well provided we do not

suppress it. Think Hyperthermia. When we do the right thing, in most

situation, the fever is not going to rise to that level and, you don’t find

the old and feeble developing fevers that high because they don’t have the

vitality for the body to work that well.

Always think bodily defense. Any outward sign of illness such as profuse

mucous, fever, sweating, coughing, sneezing, diarrhea are not symptoms of

disease, they are signs the body is trying to help itself and we must let it,

not suppress it. This is an entirely different thought process than we have

been raised with or taught by Conventional Medicine. When I was a child I

remember the very cold alcohol wash-downs to lower my temperature.

Foolishness, but that was many moons ago and who thought about alcohol being

itself a problem or that they were actually fighting the body. How we survived

childhood is a miracle of the body, not Medical science?

Regardless, the fever is a sign that there is a problem but if we want body

temperature raised by Hyperthermia, why do we condemn a fever when the body

does it? How about bed-rest, no food, just pure water for a couple of days?

Not talking prolonged fast here, just a couple of days to allow one’s body to

get well. Keep in mind, there is no disease or outside factor that

‘causes’ fever...........only the body can cause a fever as a reaction to a

stimuli and the day your body cannot provide a fever when needed.....you’re

probably heading for the grave.

Joe C.

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