Re: update -- my rectal squamous cell carcinoma

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: We're all rooting for you! in New Jersey

In a message dated 2/5/2010 5:00:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

sberger14@... writes:

;

Congratulations.

That is really great news. Especially considering your prognosis.

I don't post too much but I do read all the posts.

Could you post your protocol to the group. I have a different type but

there may some overlap. If there is something there it could possibly help

some of us.

I have stage 4 prostate cancer with mets to the bones. I have failed

hormone therapy so I am on chemo (Taxotere). But that is only palpative and

only

helps for about a year. After that probably go to hospice. But I don't

like that plan so I keep looking and digging.

All the best.

Steve B

[Guest guest]

Yay! 50% smaller is great news.

I am praying for you and hoping that you will heal quickly.

Hang in there and Take care,

phine

>

> I had an intensive two weeks of a carefully designed integrative

> protocol. The first week was very rough sailing because of pain,

> nausea, cachexia, weakness, and bowel issues. My weight had dropped

> from 175 to 144 lbs.

>

> The second week I regained my appetite, I lost no hair and I had no

> mouth/alimentary sores. Pain and bowel issues are still a serious

> problem. I was still able to conduct my seminars.

>

> This morning I had a CT scan. My radiologist just e-mailed me:

>

> " I just reviewed your CT scan this morning.

> Your tumor shrunk at least 50%!

> I hope this would give you some encouragement. "

>

> Three weeks ago a surgeon told me that it was immediately necessary

> to do a pelvic exenteration where they would rip out my rectum, anus,

> bladder, and prostate, and then cut permanent holes in my abdomen and

> backside for fecal and urine bags. It probably wouldn't be long

> before they would recommend hospice as the surgery was only intended

> to be palliative.

>

> The current plan is to get as healthy as I can over the next two

> weeks and then hit it again with my integrative regimen. My

> intention is to be ok by the end of February. I am still designing

> my follow-up protocol.

>

> I am not out of the woods. I do fear that I will kill off this tumor

> faster than I can naturally reconstruct the wall of my rectum. There

> is also the possibility of necrotic erosion of the tumor vasculature

> leading to uncontrollable hemorrhage. Either problem means immediate

> drastic surgery.

>

> Still, it is very heartening to learn that there has been a 50%

> reduction in two weeks. Today I started on ketorolac to reduce pain

> and inflammation. This NSAID also kills squamous cell carcinoma and

> is easily available in Mexico.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

;

Congratulations.

That is really great news. Especially considering your prognosis.

I don't post too much but I do read all the posts.

Could you post your protocol to the group. I have a different type but there may

some overlap. If there is something there it could possibly help some of us.

I have stage 4 prostate cancer with mets to the bones. I have failed hormone

therapy so I am on chemo (Taxotere). But that is only palpative and only helps

for about a year. After that probably go to hospice. But I don't like that plan

so I keep looking and digging.

All the best.

Steve B

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

We are all looking forward to see you well.

May God bless you

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From: " VGammill " <vgammill@...>

Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:51 AM

< >

Cc: <cures for cancer >

Subject: [ ] update -- my rectal squamous cell carcinoma

> I had an intensive two weeks of a carefully designed integrative

> protocol. The first week was very rough sailing because of pain,

> nausea, cachexia, weakness, and bowel issues. My weight had dropped

> from 175 to 144 lbs.

>

> The second week I regained my appetite, I lost no hair and I had no

> mouth/alimentary sores. Pain and bowel issues are still a serious

> problem. I was still able to conduct my seminars.

>

> This morning I had a CT scan. My radiologist just e-mailed me:

>

> " I just reviewed your CT scan this morning.

> Your tumor shrunk at least 50%!

> I hope this would give you some encouragement. "

>

> Three weeks ago a surgeon told me that it was immediately necessary

> to do a pelvic exenteration where they would rip out my rectum, anus,

> bladder, and prostate, and then cut permanent holes in my abdomen and

> backside for fecal and urine bags. It probably wouldn't be long

> before they would recommend hospice as the surgery was only intended

> to be palliative.

>

> The current plan is to get as healthy as I can over the next two

> weeks and then hit it again with my integrative regimen. My

> intention is to be ok by the end of February. I am still designing

> my follow-up protocol.

>

> I am not out of the woods. I do fear that I will kill off this tumor

> faster than I can naturally reconstruct the wall of my rectum. There

> is also the possibility of necrotic erosion of the tumor vasculature

> leading to uncontrollable hemorrhage. Either problem means immediate

> drastic surgery.

>

> Still, it is very heartening to learn that there has been a 50%

> reduction in two weeks. Today I started on ketorolac to reduce pain

> and inflammation. This NSAID also kills squamous cell carcinoma and

> is easily available in Mexico.

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Good job!!! Go go go go and kick that tumor out!

All the best to you.

>

> I had an intensive two weeks of a carefully designed integrative

> protocol. The first week was very rough sailing because of pain,

> nausea, cachexia, weakness, and bowel issues. My weight had dropped

> from 175 to 144 lbs.

>

> The second week I regained my appetite, I lost no hair and I had no

> mouth/alimentary sores. Pain and bowel issues are still a serious

> problem. I was still able to conduct my seminars.

>

> This morning I had a CT scan. My radiologist just e-mailed me:

>

> " I just reviewed your CT scan this morning.

> Your tumor shrunk at least 50%!

> I hope this would give you some encouragement. "

>

> Three weeks ago a surgeon told me that it was immediately necessary

> to do a pelvic exenteration where they would rip out my rectum, anus,

> bladder, and prostate, and then cut permanent holes in my abdomen and

> backside for fecal and urine bags. It probably wouldn't be long

> before they would recommend hospice as the surgery was only intended

> to be palliative.

>

> The current plan is to get as healthy as I can over the next two

> weeks and then hit it again with my integrative regimen. My

> intention is to be ok by the end of February. I am still designing

> my follow-up protocol.

>

> I am not out of the woods. I do fear that I will kill off this tumor

> faster than I can naturally reconstruct the wall of my rectum. There

> is also the possibility of necrotic erosion of the tumor vasculature

> leading to uncontrollable hemorrhage. Either problem means immediate

> drastic surgery.

>

> Still, it is very heartening to learn that there has been a 50%

> reduction in two weeks. Today I started on ketorolac to reduce pain

> and inflammation. This NSAID also kills squamous cell carcinoma and

> is easily available in Mexico.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

:

I'm wishing you the very best in this " battle " . Keep up the good work... J

[Guest guest]

Oh this is good news and I wish you continued good news.

Hang in there.

Donna ACS

> I had an intensive two weeks of a carefully designed integrative

> protocol. The first week was very rough sailing because of pain,

> nausea, cachexia, weakness, and bowel issues. My weight had dropped

> from 175 to 144 lbs.

>

> The second week I regained my appetite, I lost no hair and I had no

> mouth/alimentary sores. Pain and bowel issues are still a serious

> problem. I was still able to conduct my seminars.

>

> This morning I had a CT scan. My radiologist just e-mailed me:

>

> " I just reviewed your CT scan this morning.

> Your tumor shrunk at least 50%!

> I hope this would give you some encouragement. "

>

> Three weeks ago a surgeon told me that it was immediately necessary

> to do a pelvic exenteration where they would rip out my rectum, anus,

> bladder, and prostate, and then cut permanent holes in my abdomen and

> backside for fecal and urine bags. It probably wouldn't be long

> before they would recommend hospice as the surgery was only intended

> to be palliative.

>

> The current plan is to get as healthy as I can over the next two

> weeks and then hit it again with my integrative regimen. My

> intention is to be ok by the end of February. I am still designing

> my follow-up protocol.

>

> I am not out of the woods. I do fear that I will kill off this tumor

> faster than I can naturally reconstruct the wall of my rectum. There

> is also the possibility of necrotic erosion of the tumor vasculature

> leading to uncontrollable hemorrhage. Either problem means immediate

> drastic surgery.

>

> Still, it is very heartening to learn that there has been a 50%

> reduction in two weeks. Today I started on ketorolac to reduce pain

> and inflammation. This NSAID also kills squamous cell carcinoma and

> is easily available in Mexico.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bless your heart, , and all the best of continued healing.

Bill Corley

www.mofoxtrot.com/twinspringsfarm

The only thing more powerful than walking your talk is walking your walk

without having to talk the talk. 

       --  Alan Cohen

[ ] update -- my rectal squamous cell carcinoma

I had an intensive two weeks of a carefully designed integrative

protocol. The first week was very rough sailing because of pain,

nausea, cachexia, weakness, and bowel issues. My weight had dropped

from 175 to 144 lbs.

The second week I regained my appetite, I lost no hair and I had no

mouth/alimentary sores. Pain and bowel issues are still a serious

problem. I was still able to conduct my seminars.

This morning I had a CT scan. My radiologist just e-mailed me:

" I just reviewed your CT scan this morning.

Your tumor shrunk at least 50%!

I hope this would give you some encouragement. "

Three weeks ago a surgeon told me that it was immediately necessary

to do a pelvic exenteration where they would rip out my rectum, anus,

bladder, and prostate, and then cut permanent holes in my abdomen and

backside for fecal and urine bags. It probably wouldn't be long

before they would recommend hospice as the surgery was only intended

to be palliative.

The current plan is to get as healthy as I can over the next two

weeks and then hit it again with my integrative regimen. My

intention is to be ok by the end of February. I am still designing

my follow-up protocol.

I am not out of the woods. I do fear that I will kill off this tumor

faster than I can naturally reconstruct the wall of my rectum. There

is also the possibility of necrotic erosion of the tumor vasculature

leading to uncontrollable hemorrhage. Either problem means immediate

drastic surgery.

Still, it is very heartening to learn that there has been a 50%

reduction in two weeks. Today I started on ketorolac to reduce pain

and inflammation. This NSAID also kills squamous cell carcinoma and

is easily available in Mexico.

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Good for you, ! I'm very happy to hear this news.

ar

>

> I had an intensive two weeks of a carefully designed integrative

> protocol. The first week was very rough sailing because of pain,

> nausea, cachexia, weakness, and bowel issues. My weight had dropped

> from 175 to 144 lbs.

>

> The second week I regained my appetite, I lost no hair and I had no

> mouth/alimentary sores. Pain and bowel issues are still a serious

> problem. I was still able to conduct my seminars.

>

> This morning I had a CT scan. My radiologist just e-mailed me:

>

> " I just reviewed your CT scan this morning.

> Your tumor shrunk at least 50%!

> I hope this would give you some encouragement. "

>

> Three weeks ago a surgeon told me that it was immediately necessary

> to do a pelvic exenteration where they would rip out my rectum, anus,

> bladder, and prostate, and then cut permanent holes in my abdomen and

> backside for fecal and urine bags. It probably wouldn't be long

> before they would recommend hospice as the surgery was only intended

> to be palliative.

>

> The current plan is to get as healthy as I can over the next two

> weeks and then hit it again with my integrative regimen. My

> intention is to be ok by the end of February. I am still designing

> my follow-up protocol.

>

> I am not out of the woods. I do fear that I will kill off this tumor

> faster than I can naturally reconstruct the wall of my rectum. There

> is also the possibility of necrotic erosion of the tumor vasculature

> leading to uncontrollable hemorrhage. Either problem means immediate

> drastic surgery.

>

> Still, it is very heartening to learn that there has been a 50%

> reduction in two weeks. Today I started on ketorolac to reduce pain

> and inflammation. This NSAID also kills squamous cell carcinoma and

> is easily available in Mexico.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS....two weeks ha? incredible...

warm warm wishes of light, healing and love...

Gubi

[ ] update -- my rectal squamous cell carcinoma

I had an intensive two weeks of a carefully designed integrative

protocol. The first week was very rough sailing because of pain,

nausea, cachexia, weakness, and bowel issues. My weight had dropped

from 175 to 144 lbs.

The second week I regained my appetite, I lost no hair and I had no

mouth/alimentary sores. Pain and bowel issues are still a serious

problem. I was still able to conduct my seminars.

This morning I had a CT scan. My radiologist just e-mailed me:

" I just reviewed your CT scan this morning.

Your tumor shrunk at least 50%!

I hope this would give you some encouragement. "

Three weeks ago a surgeon told me that it was immediately necessary

to do a pelvic exenteration where they would rip out my rectum, anus,

bladder, and prostate, and then cut permanent holes in my abdomen and

backside for fecal and urine bags. It probably wouldn't be long

before they would recommend hospice as the surgery was only intended

to be palliative.

The current plan is to get as healthy as I can over the next two

weeks and then hit it again with my integrative regimen. My

intention is to be ok by the end of February. I am still designing

my follow-up protocol.

I am not out of the woods. I do fear that I will kill off this tumor

faster than I can naturally reconstruct the wall of my rectum. There

is also the possibility of necrotic erosion of the tumor vasculature

leading to uncontrollable hemorrhage. Either problem means immediate

drastic surgery.

Still, it is very heartening to learn that there has been a 50%

reduction in two weeks. Today I started on ketorolac to reduce pain

and inflammation. This NSAID also kills squamous cell carcinoma and

is easily available in Mexico.

[Guest guest]

...that is WONDERFUL news. Thank you for sharing it with us.

What is your protocol?

Hugs,

In a message dated 2/5/2010 3:51:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

vgammill@... writes:

I had an intensive two weeks of a carefully designed integrative

protocol. The first week was very rough sailing because of pain,

nausea, cachexia, weakness, and bowel issues. My weight had dropped

from 175 to 144 lbs.

The second week I regained my appetite, I lost no hair and I had no

mouth/alimentary sores. Pain and bowel issues are still a serious

problem. I was still able to conduct my seminars.

This morning I had a CT scan. My radiologist just e-mailed me:

" I just reviewed your CT scan this morning.

Your tumor shrunk at least 50%!

I hope this would give you some encouragement.I

Three weeks ago a surgeon told me that it was immediately necessary

to do a pelvic exenteration where they would rip out my rectum, anus,

bladder, and prostate, and then cut permanent holes in my abdomen and

backside for fecal and urine bags. It probably wouldn't be long

before they would recommend hospice as the surgery was only intended

to be palliative.

The current plan is to get as healthy as I can over the next two

weeks and then hit it again with my integrative regimen. My

intention is to be ok by the end of February. I am still designing

my follow-up protocol.

I am not out of the woods. I do fear that I will kill off this tumor

faster than I can naturally reconstruct the wall of my rectum. There

is also the possibility of necrotic erosion of the tumor vasculature

leading to uncontrollable hemorrhage. Either problem means immediate

drastic surgery.

Still, it is very heartening to learn that there has been a 50%

reduction in two weeks. Today I started on ketorolac to reduce pain

and inflammation. This NSAID also kills squamous cell carcinoma and

is easily available in Mexico.

[Guest guest]

,

my thoughts and prayers are with you. i wish you only the best. take care.

 

jenny

Immature love is loving someone because you need them, mature love is needing

someone because you love them!

From: szukidavis@... <szukidavis@...>

Subject: Re: update -- my rectal squamous cell carcinoma

cures for cancer

Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 2:04 PM

 

...that is WONDERFUL news. Thank you for sharing it with us.

What is your protocol?

Hugs,

In a message dated 2/5/2010 3:51:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

vgammilladelphia (DOT) net writes:

I had an intensive two weeks of a carefully designed integrative

protocol. The first week was very rough sailing because of pain,

nausea, cachexia, weakness, and bowel issues. My weight had dropped

from 175 to 144 lbs.

The second week I regained my appetite, I lost no hair and I had no

mouth/alimentary sores. Pain and bowel issues are still a serious

problem. I was still able to conduct my seminars.

This morning I had a CT scan. My radiologist just e-mailed me:

" I just reviewed your CT scan this morning.

Your tumor shrunk at least 50%!

I hope this would give you some encouragement. I

Three weeks ago a surgeon told me that it was immediately necessary

to do a pelvic exenteration where they would rip out my rectum, anus,

bladder, and prostate, and then cut permanent holes in my abdomen and

backside for fecal and urine bags. It probably wouldn't be long

before they would recommend hospice as the surgery was only intended

to be palliative.

The current plan is to get as healthy as I can over the next two

weeks and then hit it again with my integrative regimen. My

intention is to be ok by the end of February. I am still designing

my follow-up protocol.

I am not out of the woods. I do fear that I will kill off this tumor

faster than I can naturally reconstruct the wall of my rectum. There

is also the possibility of necrotic erosion of the tumor vasculature

leading to uncontrollable hemorrhage. Either problem means immediate

drastic surgery.

Still, it is very heartening to learn that there has been a 50%

reduction in two weeks. Today I started on ketorolac to reduce pain

and inflammation. This NSAID also kills squamous cell carcinoma and

is easily available in Mexico.

[Guest guest]

That's great! Do you mind sharing your two weeks protocol so that others can be

benifitted by it!

CC: cures for cancer

From: vgammill@...

Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 00:51:41 -0800

Subject: update -- my rectal squamous cell carcinoma

I had an intensive two weeks of a carefully designed integrative

protocol. The first week was very rough sailing because of pain,

nausea, cachexia, weakness, and bowel issues. My weight had dropped

from 175 to 144 lbs.

The second week I regained my appetite, I lost no hair and I had no

mouth/alimentary sores. Pain and bowel issues are still a serious

problem. I was still able to conduct my seminars.

This morning I had a CT scan. My radiologist just e-mailed me:

" I just reviewed your CT scan this morning.

Your tumor shrunk at least 50%!

I hope this would give you some encouragement. "

Three weeks ago a surgeon told me that it was immediately necessary

to do a pelvic exenteration where they would rip out my rectum, anus,

bladder, and prostate, and then cut permanent holes in my abdomen and

backside for fecal and urine bags. It probably wouldn't be long

before they would recommend hospice as the surgery was only intended

to be palliative.

The current plan is to get as healthy as I can over the next two

weeks and then hit it again with my integrative regimen. My

intention is to be ok by the end of February. I am still designing

my follow-up protocol.

I am not out of the woods. I do fear that I will kill off this tumor

faster than I can naturally reconstruct the wall of my rectum. There

is also the possibility of necrotic erosion of the tumor vasculature

leading to uncontrollable hemorrhage. Either problem means immediate

drastic surgery.

Still, it is very heartening to learn that there has been a 50%

reduction in two weeks. Today I started on ketorolac to reduce pain

and inflammation. This NSAID also kills squamous cell carcinoma and

is easily available in Mexico.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Steve,

The phrase " I have failed hormone therapy " is an interesting one.

I would think a more apt phrase would be " hormone therapy failed to work

for me " - as the original phrase - and one that is used by the

oncologists, makes it sound like YOU FAILED the perfectly good hormone

therapy. I don't think so.

I know I'm not contributing anything useful here, but some of the

language used by the oncology community is just plain wrong and I

couldn't resist venting a little - not at you - at the medical

phraseology.

Kind regards,

Nick

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, steve.bergerson wrote:

> I have stage 4 prostate cancer with mets to the bones. I have failed

> hormone therapy so I am on chemo (Taxotere).

[Guest guest]

I know you are right nick about the medical phraseology. but most of us are

cancer victims not medical practitioners

By the way androgen deprivation therapy ADT dos not fail, it just when the ADT

kills off most of the aexhormone depenent cancer cell In a normal prostrate sex

hormones work by activating the androgen receptor, testosterone and other

androgen-like molecules stimulate growth in the prostate gland, regulating its

size and secretions. I feel that the medical perfusion saying that In many men

with advanced disease, prostate cancer will remain in remission until it

eventually stops responding to hormonal treatment. Hormone-resistant, or

-refractory, prostate cancer (HRPC) as it may result in serious illness and

eventual death. Treating symptoms and pain associated with metastatic HRPC

presents complex challenges; they also say fortunately, new options are

available that may also improve survival. So ADT will stop working when all the

Sex hormone dependent cancer cells are killed off by the ADT, so the ADT has not

failed it just the cancer cells that are left are now none sex hormone

dependent cancer cells. cheers Ray

From: Nick Busigin

Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 8:36 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] update -- my rectal squamous cell carcinoma

Hi Steve,

The phrase " I have failed hormone therapy " is an interesting one.

I would think a more apt phrase would be " hormone therapy failed to work

for me " - as the original phrase - and one that is used by the

oncologists, makes it sound like YOU FAILED the perfectly good hormone

therapy. I don't think so.

I know I'm not contributing anything useful here, but some of the

language used by the oncology community is just plain wrong and I

couldn't resist venting a little - not at you - at the medical

phraseology.

Kind regards,

Nick

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, steve.bergerson wrote:

> I have stage 4 prostate cancer with mets to the bones. I have failed

> hormone therapy so I am on chemo (Taxotere).

[Guest guest]

Steve,

Chemotherapy usually is a last resort with prostate cancer. On the whole, it

does a lousy job, and even that for a relatively short time only. You can use it

for a short while, to hammer this thing down a bit. keep an eye on any changes

with your eyes.

Taxotere is expelled out also through our tears and can easily cause canalicular

stenosis. This usually happens after several rounds, and is more likely to

occure in the weekly protocol schedule. as soon as you notice anything

uncomfortable with your eyes, go see an ophthamologist. You may also wish to

consider taking natural substances to protect from taxotere induced peripheral

neuropathy, such as alpha lipoic (I would not take it on chemo day itself), high

dose glutamine, and perhaps B6.

Have you considered second line hormonal therapy? Has it been used at all? I

would seriously give it consideration after a few taxotere treatments.

I am refering to things like: transderman estradiol with ketoconazole

(synergistic), high dose genistein, leukine. Perhaps a bit later some

differentiation inducers like high dose vitamin D3 and accutane as well as

Depakote ER, and a host of possible additional natural supplements such as

Silibinin, vitamin E succinate, selenium, longevinex modified citrus

pectin...etc.

You can beat this thing.

Best wishes,

Gubi

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, steve.bergerson wrote:

> I have stage 4 prostate cancer with mets to the bones. I have failed

> hormone therapy so I am on chemo (Taxotere).

[Guest guest]

(Moderator's Note: Please remember to trim your posts. Thank you.)

ketorolac to reduce pain

> and inflammation. This NSAID also kills squamous cell carcinoma and

> is easily available in Mexico.

Is is the ketorolac that kills squamous cell carcinoma?

Thank you,

Karl