Guest guest Posted June 13, 1999 Report Share Posted June 13, 1999 howdy, doc. all i know i learned from a post on the colloidal silver list. matter of fact all i know (?) is that ozonation can be accomplished with an ozone generator, an aquarium air pump, an aquarium airstone and a glass of water or olive oil. ozonated olive oil retains its properties for years, if referigated, they say. regards, Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 1999 Report Share Posted June 13, 1999 Dr. Palmer, You ozonate water by bubbling ozone gas through the water, using a generator that converts oxygen to ozone. There are many cheaper units that use air for their source of oxygen; perhaps this is adaquate to remove the bugs from your hottub, but for any serious work, you will want to use a generator that uses pure oxygen as its source. Two such good units are made by: http://www.plasmafire.com http://www.o3zone.com/ozoneser Lots of good info on those sites! -- Gilbert Callaghan gilbert@... ozone generator > From: " Dr. Palmer " <dr_bubba@...> > > Good afternoon, > > I suspect I am newer and less knowledgeable than the last guy. I would > like to know what equipment I need to ozonate water. Thanks for your > forbearance, > > Dr. Bubba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 1999 Report Share Posted June 13, 1999 In a message dated 6/13/99 3:03:31 PM Central Daylight Time, djg77@... writes: << howdy, doc. all i know i learned from a post on the colloidal silver list. matter of fact all i know (?) is that ozonation can be accomplished with an ozone generator, an aquarium air pump, an aquarium airstone and a glass of water or olive oil. ozonated olive oil retains its properties for years, if referigated, they say. regards, Dennis >> How long does it take to make the ozonated oil??? edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 1999 Report Share Posted June 13, 1999 In a message dated 6/13/99 8:10:29 PM Central Daylight Time, jlambert@... writes: << Es9525@... wrote: > How long does it take to make the ozonated oil??? > edith If I remember correctly, Saul Pressman said it took 2 weeks with medical grade ozonator. jim >> Thanks!!! edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 1999 Report Share Posted June 13, 1999 Es9525@... wrote: > How long does it take to make the ozonated oil??? > edith If I remember correctly, Saul Pressman said it took 2 weeks with medical grade ozonator. jim -- jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry " I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself. " -- D. H. Lawrence amicus certus in re incerta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 1999 Report Share Posted June 14, 1999 oz watr is said to take abut 5 minutes. oil? quien sabe? just a newbie wannabe. help??? Dennis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 1999 Report Share Posted July 12, 1999 According to Saul Pressman, who makes great ozonated olive oil, the ultra violet bulb type ozonators don't produce enough ozone to do the job. It takes a medical quality generator running on O2 about 2 weeks to make ozonated olive oil. I hope my memory serves me here. I have some of his and I love it! jim Es9525@... wrote: > From: Es9525@... > > In a message dated 6/13/99 3:03:31 PM Central Daylight Time, djg77@... > writes: > > << howdy, doc. > all i know i learned from a post on the colloidal silver list. matter of > fact all i know (?) is that ozonation can be accomplished with an ozone > generator, an aquarium air pump, an aquarium airstone and a glass of > water or olive oil. > ozonated olive oil retains its properties for years, if referigated, > they say. > regards, > Dennis > >> > > How long does it take to make the ozonated oil??? > edith > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ONElist: the best source for group communications. > > Join a new list today! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can subscribe/unsubscribe via e-mail by sending AN e-mail to the following address > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE > oxyplus-subscribeonelist - subscribe to a list. > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist - unsubscribe from a list. > oxyplus-digestonelist - switch your subscription to digest mode. > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. -- jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry " I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself. " -- D. H. Lawrence amicus certus in re incerta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 1999 Report Share Posted October 16, 1999 In a message dated 10/16/99 12:22:15 AM Central Daylight Time, easygoing@... writes: << I don't fully understand the device, although I have had it explained to me. I have seen the inside of it. It has a vaccum tube, and a coil as part of it. It has electricity running through it. I know if you put your hand on the coil carefully, you can get the ozone on you and then if you quickly smell it, it smells like " lightening. " Kris >> It sounds like just a high voltage ozone producer. But the main thing is that it uses only 02 for a supply to it and not air. Air is about 80% nitrogen and that is where they end up making nitric byproducts. I have a lung disease and have found out that they are very irritating to the lung. The nitric oxides that is. But 03 made with pure 02 does not linger as long or seems to be less irritating. Gene Downey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 1999 Report Share Posted October 16, 1999 Dear Gene, Be very careful not to breathe in ozone. Although Saul Pressman will disagree with me, there are many authorities who warn about ozone damaging the lungs. Regards, Noel. Dr. Noel 89 Royal Parade P O Box 137 Parkville VIC 3052 Australia Telephone 03 9347 8444 International 613 9347 8444 Fax 03 9347 8850 International 613 9347 8850 Email noelc@... Home page www.smile.org.au Sapere Aude: Dare to be wise All truth goes through three stages: first it is ridiculed then it is violently opposed finally it is accepted as self evident. Schopenhauer. Re: Ozone generator From: Gdwny@... In a message dated 10/16/99 12:22:15 AM Central Daylight Time, easygoing@... writes: << I don't fully understand the device, although I have had it explained to me. I have seen the inside of it. It has a vaccum tube, and a coil as part of it. It has electricity running through it. I know if you put your hand on the coil carefully, you can get the ozone on you and then if you quickly smell it, it smells like " lightening. " Kris >> It sounds like just a high voltage ozone producer. But the main thing is that it uses only 02 for a supply to it and not air. Air is about 80% nitrogen and that is where they end up making nitric byproducts. I have a lung disease and have found out that they are very irritating to the lung. The nitric oxides that is. But 03 made with pure 02 does not linger as long or seems to be less irritating. Gene Downey OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can subscribe/unsubscribe via e-mail by sending AN e-mail to the following address DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE oxyplus-subscribeonelist - subscribe to a list. oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist - unsubscribe from a list. oxyplus-digestonelist - switch your subscription to digest mode. oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 1999 Report Share Posted October 16, 1999 Noel, Saul wouldn't disagree with you. What he has said is that ozone can only be breathed when bubbled through olive oil, a protocol that has been used successfully for about 100 years without problems. If I remember correctly, it is supposed to be Nicola Tesla that developed the method. Bubbling it through olive oil causes the ozone to react with a constituent in the oil, so one isn't actually breathing in ozone when done that way. I have also read that it can be breathed when bubbled through certain essential oils. I have done both & never noticed anything. Not a single cough. But I would say the same thing you do: NEVER breathe concentrated ozone by itself. (I added the word concentrated, because we all breathe it in after a rain) jim > From: " Dr Noel " <noelc@...> > > Dear Gene, > > Be very careful not to breathe in ozone. > > Although Saul Pressman will disagree with me, there are many authorities who > warn about ozone damaging the lungs. > > Regards, > > Noel. -- jim@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Intellectual brilliance is no guarantee against being dead wrong. -- Fasold amicus certus in re incerta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 1999 Report Share Posted October 16, 1999 Dear Kris, Unless he is using medical oxygen he is generating nitrogen byproducts. Regards, Noel. Dr. Noel 89 Royal Parade P O Box 137 Parkville VIC 3052 Australia Telephone 03 9347 8444 International 613 9347 8444 Fax 03 9347 8850 International 613 9347 8850 Email noelc@... Home page www.smile.org.au Sapere Aude: Dare to be wise All truth goes through three stages: first it is ridiculed then it is violently opposed finally it is accepted as self evident. Schopenhauer. Ozone generator From: easygoing@... In a message dated 10/14/99 11:34:15 AM Central Daylight Time, easygoing@... writes: << I have a phyical therapist who makes ozone air purifiers and sells them for $250. He is not on the internet, though I am trying to get him to try it out. He makes the ozone purifiers so that they do not produce any nitrous oxide, or other harmful byproducts. >> How does he do this? Is he using 02 to make the ozone? Gene Downey I don't fully understand the device, although I have had it explained to me. I have seen the inside of it. It has a vaccum tube, and a coil as part of it. It has electricity running through it. I know if you put your hand on the coil carefully, you can get the ozone on you and then if you quickly smell it, it smells like " lightening. " Kris ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Get your FREE email at http://www.joymail.com VoiceMail over the Internet and Sending email by a regular phone: http://firstgate.joymail.com OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can subscribe/unsubscribe via e-mail by sending AN e-mail to the following address DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE oxyplus-subscribeonelist - subscribe to a list. oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist - unsubscribe from a list. oxyplus-digestonelist - switch your subscription to digest mode. oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 1999 Report Share Posted October 17, 1999 Dear Dr., The EPA scientists who were invited to Verona stated upon questioning that they had used ozone generators that operated from air supply, not pure oxygen feed. Because there is the likelihood of contamination, so that it is not certain that only ozone was being tested, their data is invalid regarding medical ozone, which is always from pure oxygen feed. They agreed to redo their studies with medical ozone with pure oxygen feed. Until that data is available, their conclusions regarding breathing of raw ozone are in limbo. Best of Health! Saul Pressman Become a Certified Ozone Hyperthermic Technician: Oct 16 Vancouver BC, Oct 23 Dallas Texas. URL: http://www.plasmafire.com/education.html email: saul@... for more info. Re: Ozone generator > > From: Gdwny@... > > In a message dated 10/16/99 12:22:15 AM Central Daylight Time, > easygoing@... writes: > > << I don't fully understand the device, although I have had it explained to > me. I have seen the inside of it. It has a vaccum > tube, and a coil as part of it. It has electricity running through it. I > know if you put your hand on the coil carefully, you can get the ozone on > you > and then if you quickly smell it, it smells like " lightening. " > Kris > >> > It sounds like just a high voltage ozone producer. But the main thing is > that it uses only 02 for a supply to it and not air. Air is about 80% > nitrogen and that is where they end up making nitric byproducts. I have a > lung disease and have found out that they are very irritating to the lung. > The nitric oxides that is. But 03 made with pure 02 does not linger as long > or seems to be less irritating. > > Gene Downey > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other > alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are > for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can subscribe/unsubscribe via e-mail by sending AN e-mail to the > following address > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE > oxyplus-subscribeonelist - subscribe to a list. > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist - unsubscribe from a list. > oxyplus-digestonelist - switch your subscription to digest mode. > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self- help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can subscribe/unsubscribe via e-mail by sending AN e-mail to the following address > DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE > oxyplus-subscribeonelist - subscribe to a list. > oxyplus-unsubscribeonelist - unsubscribe from a list. > oxyplus-digestonelist - switch your subscription to digest mode. > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 1999 Report Share Posted October 17, 1999 Dr Noel wrote: > > From: " Dr Noel " <noelc@...> > > Dear Gene, > > Be very careful not to breathe in ozone. > > > Regards, > > Noel. " Dr Noel " wrote: > Be very careful not to breathe in ozone. > Sapere Aude: Dare to be wise > > All truth goes through three stages: > first it is ridiculed > then it is violently opposed > finally it is accepted as self evident. > Schopenhauer. > Although Saul Pressman will disagree with me, there are many >authorities who warn about ozone damaging the lungs. Noel: Are these " authorities " the ones that first ridicule and then violently oppose new truth ? Ozone has over 100 years of research with verifiable results behind it and there are still those that oppose it, some violently. I can tell you that the first blast of strong ozone in my lungs by careless accident caused quite a coughing reaction. The next day my lungs were clear, much clearer than they had been for 20 years or more. I felt really good. So I cautiously tried another inhalation of strong ozone and there was only a small reaction, no coughing. Today I consider the information from the authorities to be misleading, fear of the unknown. Try some and see for your self. Saul Pressman is not the only one discovering how wrong some of the accepted misinformation from quote, authorities, really is. Del Snow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 is there anyone in manhattan who owns one of saul's ozone machines. i would like to test it out for myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Serita, Sure can! Dr. Saul Pressman, an oxyplus listmember makes the only cold plasma type ozone generators of which I have heard. They are superior in two ways to corona discharge generators. First, corona discharge units evaporate trace quantities of the metal the electrodes are made from, and we all have enough metal toxicity already. Second, corona discharge units wear out in about 6-10 years, whereas cold plasma units will last indefinitely unless back pressure is applied, and that apparently only breaks a piece of rubber hosing. Saul is the only manufacturer I've heard of that guarantees his generators for life. jim Serita-w@... wrote: > > Hi List > > Can anyone tell me a good source for purchasing an ozone generator? > > Thanks, > Serita > ----- carpe diem, carpe pucunia, carpe femina. -- Jim Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2000 Report Share Posted October 29, 2000 Thanks, Jim That gves me two to check out. Serita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 Medizone did therapy years ago using air and claim that they had a problem with nitrogen. You can convert an air ionizer to use oxygen. It is my understanding (but I cannot guarantee this) that welding oxygen is nitrogen free. I run an ionizer with welding gas (oxygen) by directing the flow via a manifold simply done. Also, Ozone bubbled through oils such as tee tree can be breathed, it is said, with no side effects. However, there also has been some comment about a syndrome resultant from breathed Ozone (but I do not know much about the claim). The claim with the Ozonated oil is that it substantially changes that situation when nebulized and breathed in that way. It is a shame that therapies such as Ozone have to be developed outside of the system. But, the bottom line is that Ozone therapy is so promising that the pharms/FDA are hard at work doing nothing with Ozone. It is simply too cheap and effective. ozone generator > > > Can anyone tell me if a cold plasma generator fed on regular air will produce dangerous nitrogen by products? If bubbled thru olive oil is it safe to breathe? > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 The Ozone sauna is a wonderful device. The cost will come down substantially as new ideas are developed. I am working on a sauna configuration that is substantially a tent. Shipping costs will come down, and the cost of the basic materials can be substantially reduced also. The sauna in a suitcase is close at hand. ozone generator > > > Can anyone tell me if a cold plasma generator fed on regular air will produce dangerous nitrogen by products? If bubbled thru olive oil is it safe to breathe? > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 You bet. ozone generator > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if a cold plasma generator fed on regular air will > > produce dangerous nitrogen by products? If bubbled thru olive oil is it > > safe to breathe? > > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability > to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > > the message! : > > > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > > > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 Will you keep us posted? ozone generator > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if a cold plasma generator fed on regular air will > produce dangerous nitrogen by products? If bubbled thru olive oil is it > safe to breathe? > > > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 d darr, If air is the source gas, then there will be nitrogen byproducts in trace quantities. And, I would think any answer to its safety when bubbled thru olive oil was conjecture. jim d darr wrote: > > Can anyone tell me if a cold plasma generator fed on regular air will produce dangerous nitrogen by products? If bubbled thru olive oil is it safe to breathe? ----- carpe diem, carpe pecunia, carpe femina. -- Jim Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 I see that my answer may have been confusing. Ozone bubbled through oils can be breathed. I would not bubble nitrogenous Ozone through anything. I was referring to just pure Ozone. Sorry if it was mistaken. Re: ozone generator > d darr, > > If air is the source gas, then there will be nitrogen byproducts in > trace quantities. And, I would think any answer to its safety when > bubbled thru olive oil was conjecture. > > jim > > d darr wrote: > > > > Can anyone tell me if a cold plasma generator fed on regular air will produce dangerous nitrogen by products? If bubbled thru olive oil is it safe to breathe? > ----- > carpe diem, carpe pecunia, carpe femina. -- Jim Lambert > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 " L. Cousins " wrote: > The Ozone sauna is a wonderful device. The cost will come down substantially > as new ideas are developed. I am working on a sauna configuration that is > substantially a tent. Shipping costs will come down, and the cost of the > basic materials can be substantially reduced also. The sauna in a suitcase > is close at hand. > Happy Millennium Everyone! The Ozone Sauna Tent has been available for well over a year now. The cost, including shipping is under $300. I have been using and marketing the Tent system with great success. It is a very cost effective way to experience the benefits of Steam Sauna and Ozone for preventative and therapeutical home health care. Cost for the generator and steam sauna tent starts around $1300 and depending on your choice of generator tops out at under $2500, both prices include shipping. Generator systems can be customized to your individual preference. I hope this helps : o) -- Diane Tweden - Sovereign Citizen Transitional Tools to Be Tax Exempt-Certified Documents of Unknown Laws for All of North America Ozone Therapy at Home - Generators, Sauna's, Training Email mailto:kenzie@... Web Site http://www.taxstatement.cc/kenzie Web Site http://www.16thamendment.cc/kenzie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 can you supply a web site for further info? Re: ozone generator > " L. Cousins " wrote: > > > The Ozone sauna is a wonderful device. The cost will come down substantially > > as new ideas are developed. I am working on a sauna configuration that is > > substantially a tent. Shipping costs will come down, and the cost of the > > basic materials can be substantially reduced also. The sauna in a suitcase > > is close at hand. > > > > Happy Millennium Everyone! > > The Ozone Sauna Tent has been available for well over a year now. The cost, including shipping is under $300. I have been using and marketing the Tent system with great success. It is a very cost effective way to experience the benefits of Steam Sauna and Ozone for preventative and therapeutical home health care. Cost for the generator and steam sauna tent starts around $1300 and depending on your choice of generator tops out at under $2500, both prices include shipping. Generator systems can be customized to your individual preference. > > I hope this helps : o) > > > -- > > Diane Tweden - Sovereign Citizen > Transitional Tools to Be Tax Exempt-Certified Documents of > Unknown Laws for All of North America > Ozone Therapy at Home - Generators, Sauna's, Training > Email mailto:kenzie@... > Web Site http://www.taxstatement.cc/kenzie > Web Site http://www.16thamendment.cc/kenzie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2000 Report Share Posted December 31, 2000 , Yes, it is safe. I think olive oil may have been the original oil for this use. I believe either Tesla or Kellog used it that way. jim " L. Cousins " wrote: If bubbled thru olive oil is it > safe to breathe? ----- carpe diem, carpe pecunia, carpe femina. -- Jim Lambert jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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