ozone generator

[Guest guest]

Kenzie (Diane?),

Please expand on these unknown laws. Are they related to alternative

therapies?

jim

Kenzie wrote:

>

Certified Documents of

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[Guest guest]

Without poring through the many posts on this thread the past few days, it's my

impression that the original question may have concerned the output of an

air-fed ozone generator bubbled through olive oil.

IF SO, there may be some valid concern about contamination of the ozone with

nitrogen compounds, which may still be questionable to breathe after bubbling

through olive oil.

In private correspondence with me, Saul recently questioned the advisability of

using the output of an air-fed generator to ozonate hot bathwater. His

reservation

was based on the nitrogen compound content of the generator's output.

Green

Question: What about the advisability of breathing ambient air in a home in

which an air-fed ozone generator is left running continuously?

What is the health problem with the nitrogen compound component of the output of

an air-fed ozone generator?

~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^

Jim Lambert wrote:

,

Yes, it is safe. I think olive oil may have been the original oil for

this use. I believe either Tesla or Kellog used it that way.

jim

" L. Cousins " wrote:

If bubbled thru olive oil is it

> safe to breathe?

[Guest guest]

In a previous post I read about the four elements necessary for the Beck

Protocol. I also searched some links that were provided But I could not find #4

the ozone generator made with tropical fish components Can anyone help me out

here?

Ed Kasper L.Ac.,

e-mail eddy@...

All four synergistic and essential elements of the Beck protocol are …

1) Building or acquiring a functioning battery–powered blood

electro–purifier that attaches externally to the Radial and Ulnar artery

pulse points on one wrist. Improvement may be experienced within three weeks

with daily electrification of two hours.

2) A very simple and inexpensive instrument for making any quantity of Ionic

Silver Colloids for pennies ensuring anyone an intact secondary immune system.

3) A high–intensity magnetic pulser which destroys any residual germinating

or incubating pathogens in lymph and other organs by inducing back e.m.f. in

tissue consequently preventing self re– infection.

4) An ozone generator easily made with tropical fish store components to

charge drinking water with 03. Ozone comfortably detoxifies by oxidation any

wastes which the body must eliminate while regaining perfect health.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ed

Look in this web side under Bob Beck, Complete Papers, Page 17 you find the

answers.

Cheers Klaus

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/

[Guest guest]

I like Saul's Alpha ozone generator www.plasmafire.com I am really happy with

mine and his service. he does not make a tent style sauna but makes a great

hard sided one on wheels.

For a tent style go to http://www.oxystore.com/o3_tent_info.htm but don't kid

yourself that it is portable as such. With all the accompanying equipment

necessary you will keep it in one place. I am very happy with the tent but

would love to have one of Saul's hard sided units. With the tent, you have to

make some special arrangements or plans to not get you carpets soaked or ruined

which can be much more expensive than a hard sided units. I have destroyed the

carpeting in a 10'x14' room at $15.foot I would have been better off buying the

hard sided unit but i just couldn't fit it through the door. :-) Good luck.

Best wishes and much love, Ken

Ken Gullan

Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

San Diego, CA 92106-2424

IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with

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ozone generator

I want an ozone generator and portable tent sauna for Lyme. Does

anyone know if there is a used market, and if not, which companies

have the best price on the combination. I do not know what to ask

for, but i heard some have a setup to make ozone water also.

[Guest guest]

Dear Missourinaturegirl,

My company manufactures ozone generators and steam saunas.

You can view our products at http://www.plasmafire.com

We are not the cheapest, we are just the best.

No one puts more money and effort into researching and design of

ozone steam saunas. We are the only manufacturer offering modern

digital controls right on the front door of the sauna, so you can see at

a glance the temperature within the cabinet, and the time left for the

session.

We also have the only 2 year steam sauna warranty. I am proud to say that it

was through my efforts that the use of ozone hyperthermia was resurrected

from the distant past of naturopathy, since the technique was originally

invented

by Dr. Harvey Kellogg in Battle Creek, Michigan, in 1880, and has lain

fallow for

75 years.

Our equipment is currently being used in clinical trials for Lyme disease in

Dallas, and

the results will be submitted to the Lancet for publication.

We have unique cold plasma ozone generators, with the only Lifetime

warranty in the business. The warranty transfers with the generator, should

you decide to sell it, greatly enhancing the resale value.

You can start out small, with our Beta generator, doing vaginal insufflation

for a

while, and pay only $100 per month, for 18 months. (We don't charge

interest).

Then, at any time in the future, if you want to upgrade to the Alpha

generator

and the Omega steam sauna, you can trade in the Beta, for 100% of what you

paid.

In effect, you will have had the use of the Beta all that time for free. No

one else will

do that.

Finally, if you buy from me, you get the benefit of my knowledge and

experience, gained

in dealing with hundreds of clients locally, as well as consulting with

thousands worldwide

for the last 10 years, and in advising the operators of the 148 clinics

worldwide that use

my equipment.

Other manufacturers are just that, and their expertise extends only to the

manufacturing

of machines. Many of them send their customers surreptitiously to me for

medical advice

regarding the application of ozone. The techniques they DO know are often

outdated, and

ineffective.

I run an email ring at groups called ozonetherapy, answering questions

and

giving advice and I invite you to join. Interestingly, the most frequent

questions come from

people who have bought competitors' equipment and need to know how to run

it.

This is like buying a computer without software -- useless. And since some

of the generators

being sold by competitors can be set to deliver dangerously high

concentrations of ozone,

the lack of training for customers verges on the edge of reckless

endangerment.

To start you off, I am emailing you a copy of my 1994 book The Story of

Ozone, currently

being used as a teaching textbook in two American naturopathic colleges.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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From: " missourinaturegirl " <missourinaturegirl@...>

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oxyplus

Subject: ozone generator

Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 16:02:06 -0000

I want an ozone generator and portable tent sauna for Lyme. Does

anyone know if there is a used market, and if not, which companies

have the best price on the combination. I do not know what to ask

for, but i heard some have a setup to make ozone water also.

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[Guest guest]

Saul, I'm glad you responded. I am sure Dr. Bormann has helped many,

and I always find her posts very interesting to read, but I wonder

why they seem to contain cuts of you and your machines. It makes me

a bit uneasy.

I am going to try an ozone sauna here in NY (one of yours) on

Friday. Probably only for about 10 minutes just to see how I do. I

also have to get my info on liver flushes out. I want to do one with

lemon and I can't find where I stored it--perhaps you could email me

again privatley with teh info? Grapefruit juice has too much sugar

for me with my candida and lyme problems.

[Guest guest]

Missourinaturegirl,

I have watched the ozone discussion on this list and the oxylist

before it for over 4 years. In the beginning I became interested

because the two manufacturers in question, Saul Pressman & Den of the

ozone den, would argue fine points about ozone use & equipment on the

oxylist. Invariably -- and I do mean invariably -- Saul Pressman would

win the arguments because he knows what he is talking about and he

uses simple truths to make his points, as you will notice as you read

the things he writes. And, if you get into using ozone you WILL be

reading what Saul writes because he is the best, most complete, and

almost the only source of comprehensive, authoritative information on

ozone use.

If you had been on this list for several years you would have seen

numerous questions go by relating to the use of other companies' ozone

generators. Questions like, how do I know how much ozone I am getting

at a particular setting? " The answer is you won't without a gadget

costing thousands of dollars. This is important because ozone is

effective within a range of strength, below which it is ineffective,

and above which it is dangerous. Saul's Plasmafire generators are the

only ones made using Tesla's improved Cold Plasma design, which, due

to the laws of physics, just happens to have an upper limit of potency

exactly where you would want it if you set it yourself. So, you are

guaranteed to get the maximum safe amount of ozone. A lot of us find

this very comforting. Its controls are therefor simple: push the on

button, and use it.

The cold plasma design is also the only ozone generator design that

doesn't wear out! So, if you are going to use the generator to

get/stay healthy, it will still be there down the road. Just don't use

the case with a baseball bat to crack coconuts. All other designs will

wear out in 5-8 years. So, they are not cheaper. You can get a unit

for about $850, but when I priced one it came closer to $1500 by the

time I bought all the accessories necessary to us it, while Saul's

Beta unit is complete with everything you will need for $1800. Not

even much difference!

I bought a Beta unit from Saul on the payment plan, and have since

traded up to an alpha unit with sauna. He does, as he said, give a

100% trade-in. Not the last of my pleasant surprises with Saul. My mom

also bought an alpha unit & uses it to stay healthy at 85.

Is this an unsolicited testimonial to Saul and his equipment? You

betcha! And I'm not the only one on this list with his equipment who

will offer one. There's got to be a good reason for that. Think about it.

jim

[Guest guest]

Dear Missourinaturegirl,

My company manufactures ozone generators and steam saunas.

You can view our products at http://www.plasmafire.com

We are not the cheapest, we are just the best.

No one puts more money and effort into researching and design of

ozone steam saunas. We are the only manufacturer offering modern

digital controls right on the front door of the sauna, so you can see at

a glance the temperature within the cabinet, and the time left for the

session.

We also have the only 2 year steam sauna warranty. I am proud to say that it

was through my efforts that the use of ozone hyperthermia was resurrected

from the distant past of naturopathy, since the technique was originally

invented

by Dr. Harvey Kellogg in Battle Creek, Michigan, in 1880, and has lain

fallow for

75 years.

Our equipment is currently being used in clinical trials for Lyme disease in

Dallas, and

the results will be submitted to the Lancet for publication.

We have unique cold plasma ozone generators, with the only Lifetime

warranty in the business. The warranty transfers with the generator, should

you decide to sell it, greatly enhancing the resale value.

You can start out small, with our Beta generator, doing vaginal insufflation

for a

while, and pay only $100 per month, for 18 months. (We don't charge

interest).

Then, at any time in the future, if you want to upgrade to the Alpha

generator

and the Omega steam sauna, you can trade in the Beta, for 100% of what you

paid.

In effect, you will have had the use of the Beta all that time for free. No

one else will

do that.

Finally, if you buy from me, you get the benefit of my knowledge and

experience, gained

in dealing with hundreds of clients locally, as well as consulting with

thousands worldwide

for the last 10 years, and in advising the operators of the 148 clinics

worldwide that use

my equipment.

Other manufacturers are just that, and their expertise extends only to the

manufacturing

of machines. Many of them send their customers surreptitiously to me for

medical advice

regarding the application of ozone. The techniques they DO know are often

outdated, and

ineffective.

I run an email ring at groups called ozonetherapy, answering questions

and

giving advice and I invite you to join. Interestingly, the most frequent

questions come from

people who have bought competitors' equipment and need to know how to run

it.

This is like buying a computer without software -- useless. And since some

of the generators

being sold by competitors can be set to deliver dangerously high

concentrations of ozone,

the lack of training for customers verges on the edge of reckless

endangerment.

To start you off, I am emailing you a copy of my 1994 book The Story of

Ozone, currently

being used as a teaching textbook in two American naturopathic colleges.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\

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From: " missourinaturegirl " <missourinaturegirl@...>

Reply-oxyplus

oxyplus

Subject: ozone generator

Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 16:02:06 -0000

I want an ozone generator and portable tent sauna for Lyme. Does

anyone know if there is a used market, and if not, which companies

have the best price on the combination. I do not know what to ask

for, but i heard some have a setup to make ozone water also.

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> I bought a Beta unit from Saul on the payment plan, and have since

> traded up to an alpha unit with sauna. He does, as he said, give a

> 100% trade-in. Not the last of my pleasant surprises with Saul. My mom

> also bought an alpha unit & uses it to stay healthy at 85.

>

> Is this an unsolicited testimonial to Saul and his equipment? You

> betcha! And I'm not the only one on this list with his equipment who

> will offer one. There's got to be a good reason for that. Think about it.

I gotta ditto Jim here...

I've been on the oxyplus list since Jim created it when we kept

getting our 'off-topic' posts censored on the original oxytherapy

list, and I must say, Saul is 'the man', when it comes to ozone - and

a whole lot of other stuff too (no offense, Jim

I've had my generator/sauna for about 3 1/2 years, and haven't had the

first problem with it, so haven't had to make use of the lifetime

warranty - but it's nice to know its there, as well as Saul himself.

I was not aware of the 100% trade-up from the beta to the alpha (mine

is a model 60 - essentially an alpha before he changed the name), but

now that I am, my parents will probably be buying one of the beta's

very soon.

Thanks for everything, Saul! (and Jim)

[Guest guest]

I think there would be a long list of " ditto's " if Saul actually asked but he

hasn't. I will still give mine though. He is also and invaluable resource for

many healthy things! Thanks Saul. I ma a happy Alpha user. I did have a

problem with the switch and he offered to fix it immediately at no cost or send

me a replacement switch if I wanted to do it myself.. Until I can do without or

feel like replacing it myself, I just plug and unplug the unit. works great and

he is a man of his word!

Best wishes and much love, Ken

Ken Gullan

Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

San Diego, CA 92106-2424

IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with

developmental difficulties.

To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104

Re: ozone generator

> I bought a Beta unit from Saul on the payment plan, and have since

> traded up to an alpha unit with sauna. He does, as he said, give a

> 100% trade-in. Not the last of my pleasant surprises with Saul. My mom

> also bought an alpha unit & uses it to stay healthy at 85.

>

> Is this an unsolicited testimonial to Saul and his equipment? You

> betcha! And I'm not the only one on this list with his equipment who

> will offer one. There's got to be a good reason for that. Think about it.

I gotta ditto Jim here...

I've been on the oxyplus list since Jim created it when we kept

getting our 'off-topic' posts censored on the original oxytherapy

list, and I must say, Saul is 'the man', when it comes to ozone - and

a whole lot of other stuff too (no offense, Jim

I've had my generator/sauna for about 3 1/2 years, and haven't had the

first problem with it, so haven't had to make use of the lifetime

warranty - but it's nice to know its there, as well as Saul himself.

I was not aware of the 100% trade-up from the beta to the alpha (mine

is a model 60 - essentially an alpha before he changed the name), but

now that I am, my parents will probably be buying one of the beta's

very soon.

Thanks for everything, Saul! (and Jim)

[Guest guest]

I would like some feedback as far as doing a liver/gall bladder,

kidney cleanse and wonder if there is a great bit of difference

between Hulda s and Dr. Schultz?

thanks

Antonia

--

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Breakthrough Coaching

http://www.Body-dynamics.com

920-868-9599

[Guest guest]

Go to www.curezone.com for one of the most comprehensive list of a variety of

cleanses and methods. I think hits is one of the best sites for cleansing

around

Best wishes and much love, Ken

Ken Gullan

Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

San Diego, CA 92106-2424

IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with

developmental difficulties.

To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104

Re: ozone generator

I would like some feedback as far as doing a liver/gall bladder,

kidney cleanse and wonder if there is a great bit of difference

between Hulda s and Dr. Schultz?

thanks

Antonia

--

Antonia

Breakthrough Coaching

http://www.Body-dynamics.com

920-868-9599

[Guest guest]

Dear Saul,

Do you also offer fanancing for the Alpha generator and the Omega

steam sauna if/when one wants to upgrade after the 18 months of

financing the Beta generator? If so, what would the payments be?

Thanks,

Gail

You can start out small, with our Beta generator, doing vaginal

insufflation

> for a

> while, and pay only $100 per month, for 18 months. (We don't charge

> interest).

> Then, at any time in the future, if you want to upgrade to the

Alpha

> generator

> and the Omega steam sauna, you can trade in the Beta, for 100% of

what you

> paid.

..

[Guest guest]

-

One more question: Are there any that you know of that get total

healing from only using the Beta generator without the sauna or do

most have to upgrade to the other? If any do receive healing with

the Beta, what illnesses are they healed from? Guess that's two

questions. Thanks, Gail

-- In oxyplus , " wanda85929 " <wanda85929@y...> wrote:

>

> Dear Saul,

>

> Do you also offer fanancing for the Alpha generator and the Omega

> steam sauna if/when one wants to upgrade after the 18 months of

> financing the Beta generator? If so, what would the payments be?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Gail

>

>

> You can start out small, with our Beta generator, doing vaginal

> insufflation

> > for a

> > while, and pay only $100 per month, for 18 months. (We don't

charge

> > interest).

> > Then, at any time in the future, if you want to upgrade to the

> Alpha

> > generator

> > and the Omega steam sauna, you can trade in the Beta, for 100% of

> what you

> > paid.

>

> .

[Guest guest]

Dear Jill,

I don't have the info on the lemon liver cleanse.

I go with the olive oil/grapefruit juice cleanse.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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From: " jill1313 " <jenbooks13@...>

Reply-oxyplus

oxyplus

Subject: Re: ozone generator

Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:11:30 -0000

Saul, I'm glad you responded. I am sure Dr. Bormann has helped many,

and I always find her posts very interesting to read, but I wonder

why they seem to contain cuts of you and your machines. It makes me

a bit uneasy.

I am going to try an ozone sauna here in NY (one of yours) on

Friday. Probably only for about 10 minutes just to see how I do. I

also have to get my info on liver flushes out. I want to do one with

lemon and I can't find where I stored it--perhaps you could email me

again privatley with teh info? Grapefruit juice has too much sugar

for me with my candida and lyme problems.

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saul,

grapefruitjuice or lemon juice...it´s the same cleanse. i personally think,

lemon juice is a little bit more effective, because it is a stronger

adstringent (right english word???)... and tastes better, too. haha!! a

little bit like vinaigrette...

marlene

Re: ozone generator

> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:11:30 -0000

>

> Saul, I'm glad you responded. I am sure Dr. Bormann has helped many,

> and I always find her posts very interesting to read, but I wonder

> why they seem to contain cuts of you and your machines. It makes me

> a bit uneasy.

>

> I am going to try an ozone sauna here in NY (one of yours) on

> Friday. Probably only for about 10 minutes just to see how I do. I

> also have to get my info on liver flushes out. I want to do one with

> lemon and I can't find where I stored it--perhaps you could email me

> again privatley with teh info? Grapefruit juice has too much sugar

> for me with my candida and lyme problems.

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Gail,

The Beta will do everything that the Alpha will do

EXCEPT

it will not fill the large volume of the sauna,

SO

the Beta can be used for the sauna only if you

ALWAYS

use the funnel to concentrate the ozone on a particular area,

which simultaneoulsy protects the ozone from heat destruction.

There are two clinics running ozone saunas and using the Beta.

Their clients are instructed to use the funnel all the time, and the

results they achieve are excellent.

This was something that was not mentioned in the recent discussion

about whether there is any ozone penetrating the skin -- the use of a

funnel,

which changes the equation.

There is another technique which is similar, and which I myself use in the

sauna.

This is the use of the short piece of tubing inside the sauna, but with the

funnel

removed. I place the end of the tubing in one armpit and hold my arm at my

side.

This creates a pocket in my armpit, trapping the ozone, and allowing it to

enter

into the lymphatics. After five minutes, I switch to the other armpit. After

five minutes,

I switch to sitting on it, so the ozone enters the perineum area, and thus

the prostate.

After five minutes I switch back to the first armpit and repeat. This

process will work

equally well with the Beta or the Alpha, because you are using only a 1/8

l/m flow rate.

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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oxyplus

Subject: Re: ozone generator

Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:58:08 -0000

-

One more question: Are there any that you know of that get total

healing from only using the Beta generator without the sauna or do

most have to upgrade to the other? If any do receive healing with

the Beta, what illnesses are they healed from? Guess that's two

questions. Thanks, Gail

-- In oxyplus , " wanda85929 " <wanda85929@y...> wrote:

>

> Dear Saul,

>

> Do you also offer fanancing for the Alpha generator and the Omega

> steam sauna if/when one wants to upgrade after the 18 months of

> financing the Beta generator? If so, what would the payments be?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Gail

>

>

> You can start out small, with our Beta generator, doing vaginal

> insufflation

> > for a

> > while, and pay only $100 per month, for 18 months. (We don't

charge

> > interest).

> > Then, at any time in the future, if you want to upgrade to the

> Alpha

> > generator

> > and the Omega steam sauna, you can trade in the Beta, for 100% of

> what you

> > paid.

>

> .

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Dear Tom,

No metal of any kind can be allowed to contact ozone in the gas pathway.

This is a critical requirement.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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From: " sathya999 " <sathya999@...>

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oxyplus

Subject: Ozone generator

Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:58:02 -0000

Further to my previous post, I am finding quite a bit of information

searching the archives, but would appreciate any information on the

suitability of 316SS in contact with medical grade ozone. I was told

that iron or chromium might be leached out.

Tom

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[Guest guest]

I have the whole setup from Saul. Boy is it a powerful therapy. I

overdid the saunas last week and backed off this week on his advice,

to do a liver flush first. I juggle my therapies with working to

support myself so I have to be careful.

> I am considering getting one from plasma fire., Saul Pressman. Has

anyone tried doing this themselves with insufflation? What were your

results? joyce

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Carol,

Cold plasma doesn't burn out and has a very long life, Corona discharge can and

does burn out.

Laurie

Ozone generator

Hi,

Can anyone give me some comments on this ENALY ozone generator. It

seems very cheap. Is it better to get one with a cold plasma device

rather than a corona discharge?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?

ViewItem & category=20729 & item=4339468526

Cheers,

Carol

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[Guest guest]

Cyndi- here's the info you requested about the acupuncturist-

Dr. Mai

1777 Bellflower Blvd. #114

Long Beach CA

Ph. 562-986-7922

He charges $45 per session which is quite a bargain compared to

everyone else I called who were all atleast double that if not much

more. He also has a really cool " co-pay " program- $10 for any herbs he

prescribes you no matter what they are or how much you may need. You

should tell him everything about what is going on with you as he is

familiar with this. As I stated before, if you're going there thinking

that one time will heal you then may very well be disappointed as Dr.

Mai told me that this is not how acupuncture works. You have to be

consistent about following up and taking the herbs.

I'm praying for you...

som

>

> Talked to this company and they will refund if it doesn't work

within

> 30 days. He wasn't sure that it would work but he did say that they

> use it for grain storage and ham to prevent insects.

>

> http://www.ozonesupplies.com/Residential_Ozone_Generators.html

>

[Guest guest]

SOM

Thank you so much. I understand that it will take ongoing

treatments. The only reason I did not go back before was because of

her doubt in being able to help.

Cyndi

> >

> > Talked to this company and they will refund if it doesn't work

> within

> > 30 days. He wasn't sure that it would work but he did say that

they

> > use it for grain storage and ham to prevent insects.

> >

> > http://www.ozonesupplies.com/Residential_Ozone_Generators.html

> >

>

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