Re: Well I did it

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I did my fifth flush a couple of weeks ago and 12 hours after ingesting the

juice and oil, I threw most of it up. Even my miraculous Digestive Tonic didn't

help. This is the first time I have had this happen, though I had varying

degrees of nausea with the first four flushes. I think it happened because the

olive oil I used had been sitting around too long and was possibly rancid.

I'm not sure if Sunflower oil is the best oil to use. Perhaps you threw up

because you used that instead of olive oil.

Colleen Kessler

----- Original Message -----

From: serricat <serricat@...>

gallstones

Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:23 PM

Subject: Well I did it

I finally did the flush last night and boy did I have a rough night.

I did the flush a little different than other people have done. I

fasted on vegetable juice instead and only did 1/2 cup of oil. Also,

I used sunflower oil instead of olive. I had some discomfort in my

chest on the right side off and while I ingested the oil and then

about 6am I got the most horrible nausea. I actually did throw up

several times but there was nothing in my tummy to throw up. Anyway,

I just went a little while ago and there were easily a hundred green

stones in there. I am actually suprised it worked. Did anyone else

experience such severe nausea? How about the stomache aches? My

stomache feels totally weak and hurting. I definitely feel wiped out

and well...pretty awful. Do I start to feel better after a few days

or should I start feeling better today? That was quite an

experience. I don't know how people do that more than once? Or is

it mostly the first time that is bad? Anyway, thanks for all the

info.

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o I start to feel better after a few days

or should I start feeling better today?

Hello, ,

I too am getting ready for a cleanse this week. It's been almost a year

since I've done a cleanse. I have never tried it your way, sorry. I know

that preparation is extremely important. Like when Dr. Cabot says drink 1

quart of organic apple juice a day for 5 days, this is important. That

organic apple juice breaks the stones down and the chaft. Then when I drink

my olive oil/grapefruit mixture, I also have my husband press in some fresh

ginger root and about 1/4 cup of organic apple juice in with the mix. I've

never had a problem yet with this and am hoping that it's still the same.

Also, I have my husband put about 2 drops of peppermint oil, which is

extremely potent so you can't have much at all. It's important not to have

much. Peppermint oil (which is expensive) helps fight nausea and so does the

ginger root. It's known that peppermint oil also breaks down stones, but you

still must be careful with it.

I always use olive oil. Good olive oil is a high prize, to me. Especially

because of its symbolism in the Bible.

So that's what I do. I'll let you know how it goes.

Susie

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...Did you do the Epsom Salts? So important in keeping

the ducts relaxed so stones move more easily and you don't have

as much nausea. I always have nausea with the flush, but it is

not so unbearable that I won't do it again...the only time that

happened was when I, too, didn't follow the directions and tried

to " do my own thing " :-) That was some years back. I do feel

wiped out the next morning, but strengthen as the day goes on.

The next day I'm a little out of sorts, but able to do my usual

things. Get better and better every day. Take it easy on your

diet over the next few weeks. If you are into going to chiropractors,

go, I always do that within a couple days of doing a flush.

Be glad you passed all those stones! That's great.

I'm still doing much better than I was after almost a month since

doing my flush, but think it would be a good idea to do one again

in the spring. I was at the point where I was uncomfortable after

every meal, not so now, thankfully.

Take care,

L. Meydrech, CN

http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

" A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

[Guest guest]

> I do feel

> wiped out the next morning

I will add to this that if it is a successful flush, along

with that wiped out ore tired feeling, is also a sense of relief

and well being, even though I am tired. Make sense?

L. Meydrech, CN

http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

" A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

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Hi ,

Thanks for the info. I didn't do epsom salts because I have been

nervous about putting things into my body that I don't know anything

about. Especially after getting new medicines every time I go to the

doctor. The doctors have told me that they don't know what's wrong

with me so they say, " Here try this. " It is getting rather old being

treated like a Guinea Pig. Anyway, when you say apple juice for 5

days do you mean only apple juice or can you eat other things with

it? I have a hard enough time fasting for two days. I have been

feeling pretty weak lately and have dropped some weight. I love

using my juicer and get fresh apple juice that way. It takes awhile

but it sure it worth it! I'm sure I will probably need to do the

flush again as I doubt that they were all flushed out this once. It

should be interesting to see if anything shows up on the ultra sound

tomorrow. Thanks for all your info on this site, I have been

actively reading the posts every day trying to get information to

make a better decision about what to do with my health.

> ...Did you do the Epsom Salts? So important in keeping

> the ducts relaxed so stones move more easily and you don't have

> as much nausea. I always have nausea with the flush, but it is

> not so unbearable that I won't do it again...the only time that

> happened was when I, too, didn't follow the directions and tried

> to " do my own thing " :-) That was some years back. I do feel

> wiped out the next morning, but strengthen as the day goes on.

> The next day I'm a little out of sorts, but able to do my usual

> things. Get better and better every day. Take it easy on your

> diet over the next few weeks. If you are into going to

chiropractors,

> go, I always do that within a couple days of doing a flush.

>

> Be glad you passed all those stones! That's great.

>

> I'm still doing much better than I was after almost a month since

> doing my flush, but think it would be a good idea to do one again

> in the spring. I was at the point where I was uncomfortable after

> every meal, not so now, thankfully.

>

> Take care,

>

> L. Meydrech, CN

> http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

> " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Your discomfort and limited success of your liver flush is most likely

due to the inadequate preparatory period (6 days on apple juice, to

soften the stones, an effect of malic acid) as well as not cleansing

the colon both before and after the liver flush. Any colon congestion

before the liver flush can lead to backflushing of waste and

regurgitation of bile into the stomach (making you sick), and stones

getting trapped in the colon during the liver flush can cause high

toxicity throuhgout the body, thus depleting energy and possible lead

to infection. Unfortunately, there are lot of recipes out there that

don't provide the complete procedure and potentially cause great harm.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. I recommend that you sign up

for a session of colonic irrigation to clear out any trapped stones,

which will make you feel much better, and then use the proper

procedure for liver cleansing as described in my bestselling book The

Amazing Liver Cleanse http://www.1stbooks.com . There should be no

major discomfort when all directions are followed properly.

I hope this will be helpful to you,

With kind regards,

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> > ...Did you do the Epsom Salts? So important in keeping

> > the ducts relaxed so stones move more easily and you don't have

> > as much nausea. I always have nausea with the flush, but it is

> > not so unbearable that I won't do it again...the only time that

> > happened was when I, too, didn't follow the directions and tried

> > to " do my own thing " :-) That was some years back. I do feel

> > wiped out the next morning, but strengthen as the day goes on.

> > The next day I'm a little out of sorts, but able to do my usual

> > things. Get better and better every day. Take it easy on your

> > diet over the next few weeks. If you are into going to

> chiropractors,

> > go, I always do that within a couple days of doing a flush.

> >

> > Be glad you passed all those stones! That's great.

> >

> > I'm still doing much better than I was after almost a month since

> > doing my flush, but think it would be a good idea to do one again

> > in the spring. I was at the point where I was uncomfortable after

> > every meal, not so now, thankfully.

> >

> > Take care,

> >

> > L. Meydrech, CN

> > http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

> > " A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

[Guest guest]

, I can completely relate to what you have gone

through with medications...that is the very thing that turned

me around to using herbs and alternatives to drugs, I just

don't handle them well. I would say that not using the Epsom

Salts is what made this more difficult for you. All they

do is make your bowel movements very loose so that

you clean out before doing the flush, and relax the bile

ducts...magnesium is very relaxing to muscle tissue,

and Epsom Salts is Magnesium ...... I used apple juice

for 5 days with beet powder mixed in in my earlier flushes,

but only a couple days this last time. I got a great cleanse

this last time, but did notice that the stones were a bit harder

than they are when I drink the apple juice ahead of time.

Apples contain Malic Acid (and perhaps other things)

that tend to increase the flow of bile so...so it keeps

the liver pumping bile through the gallbladder and that

helps soften the stones. You don't have to fast at all, just

after 2 pm on the day you flush....otherwise eat a normal

diet. Let us know what you see in your ultrasound...don't

be surprised if there are some stones, that does happen, but

hopefully you'll be clean :-)

L. Meydrech, CN

http://nutritionist.tripod.com/gallbladder.html ~ My Flushes

" A cheerful heart is good medicine " Prov. 17:22a

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

I did my first flush a few weeks ago. I have severe chemical and food

sensitivities, so I was pretty scared to take the Epsom Salts. I don't cope

with drugs very well at all. However, when I finally did it, I did not have any

allergic reaction to it at all. Then I made the mistake of vitamising the

olive-oil and lemon juice. It was revolting. I had very bad nausea and

heartburn all nght. I did not get much sleep and had to prop myself up on

pillows to avoid vomiting. However, in the morning I passed over 50 stones. It

was worth it.

I just did a second flush last week. I only passed a few small stones, but I am

determined to continue as I have been sick for a long time. My husband also did

the flushes and had some large stones come out on the second flush. He is

looking and feeling a lot better than he has in years! He has color in his face

and has a lot more energy. His stamina has improved already.

I would suggest that you do all the preparation you can. Eat a good low fat

diet with lots of raw fruit and vegies. Try not to eat animal products. Drink

the fresh apple juice for the 6 days prior to the next flush. It sounds like

you might be pretty toxic, so you may need to do several flushes before you

notice improvement.

Wishing you well,

Rosemary.

----- Original Message -----

From: serricat <serricat@...>

gallstones

Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:23 AM

Subject: Well I did it

I finally did the flush last night and boy did I have a rough night.

I did the flush a little different than other people have done. I

fasted on vegetable juice instead and only did 1/2 cup of oil. Also,

I used sunflower oil instead of olive. I had some discomfort in my

chest on the right side off and while I ingested the oil and then

about 6am I got the most horrible nausea. I actually did throw up

several times but there was nothing in my tummy to throw up. Anyway,

I just went a little while ago and there were easily a hundred green

stones in there. I am actually suprised it worked. Did anyone else

experience such severe nausea? How about the stomache aches? My

stomache feels totally weak and hurting. I definitely feel wiped out

and well...pretty awful. Do I start to feel better after a few days

or should I start feeling better today? That was quite an

experience. I don't know how people do that more than once? Or is

it mostly the first time that is bad? Anyway, thanks for all the

info.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the response, I think that just knowing other people have

been there and know how I feel helps. I do believe that my body is

very toxic and I am committed to getting healthy. I would not wish

this pain and fear on anyone but I do have to admit that it has been

a blessing in some ways: I have learned how to cook, I have become

interested in nutrition and have learned that doctors are not Gods

nor are they evil. It's been very rewarding to cook for myself. I

get to make tasty meals and am comfortable knowing what's in my

food. Dr. Cabot's book, " The Liver Cleansing Diet " has been

invaluable to me and I am very grateful to have learned about it from

this web site. I have learned to use my doctor as a resource and ask

her to help me come up with a plan. It has been very beneficial as

she is no longer completely responsible for my health and I am no

longer helpless. Anyway, thanks again for the response, I really

needed the words of encouragement right now.

> Dear ,

> I did my first flush a few weeks ago. I have severe chemical and

food sensitivities, so I was pretty scared to take the Epsom Salts.

I don't cope with drugs very well at all. However, when I finally

did it, I did not have any allergic reaction to it at all. Then I

made the mistake of vitamising the olive-oil and lemon juice. It was

revolting. I had very bad nausea and heartburn all nght. I did not

get much sleep and had to prop myself up on pillows to avoid

vomiting. However, in the morning I passed over 50 stones. It was

worth it.

> I just did a second flush last week. I only passed a few small

stones, but I am determined to continue as I have been sick for a

long time. My husband also did the flushes and had some large stones

come out on the second flush. He is looking and feeling a lot better

than he has in years! He has color in his face and has a lot more

energy. His stamina has improved already.

> I would suggest that you do all the preparation you can. Eat a

good low fat diet with lots of raw fruit and vegies. Try not to eat

animal products. Drink the fresh apple juice for the 6 days prior to

the next flush. It sounds like you might be pretty toxic, so you may

need to do several flushes before you notice improvement.

> Wishing you well,

> Rosemary.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: serricat <serricat@y...>

> gallstones

> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:23 AM

> Subject: Well I did it

>

>

> I finally did the flush last night and boy did I have a rough

night.

> I did the flush a little different than other people have done.

I

> fasted on vegetable juice instead and only did 1/2 cup of oil.

Also,

> I used sunflower oil instead of olive. I had some discomfort in

my

> chest on the right side off and while I ingested the oil and then

> about 6am I got the most horrible nausea. I actually did throw

up

> several times but there was nothing in my tummy to throw up.

Anyway,

> I just went a little while ago and there were easily a hundred

green

> stones in there. I am actually suprised it worked. Did anyone

else

> experience such severe nausea? How about the stomache aches? My

> stomache feels totally weak and hurting. I definitely feel wiped

out

> and well...pretty awful. Do I start to feel better after a few

days

> or should I start feeling better today? That was quite an

> experience. I don't know how people do that more than once? Or

is

> it mostly the first time that is bad? Anyway, thanks for all the

> info.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/23/2003 7:47:40 PM Central Standard Time,

serricat@... writes:

> Dr. Cabot's book, " The Liver Cleansing Diet " has been

> invaluable to me and I am very grateful to have learned about it from

> this web site.

,

I like you must have been very toxic. I used to have awful allergies, but I

just brushed it off to the area where I live thinking it was ragweed or

something like that. However, when I started Dr. Cabot's 8-week plan a

couple of years ago, I guess it was, it was exactly on the 3rd day that I

woke up one morning and felt clear-headed, no runny nose at all. I'm sure

some of it was getting off sugar-free cold drinks too. But a lot of it was

starting her eating plan. Now I don't have allergy problems. I also know

that doing these cleanses helps get rid of the toxins.

Susie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/24/2003 7:14:06 AM Central Standard Time,

kortron@... writes:

> Hi Susie: Well where do you go to get this diet info?

>

Walt,

I went to her old website at liverdoctor.com and it's moved to:

<A

HREF= " http://www.weightcontroldoctor.com/healthtopics/liverdiet/default.asp " >htt\

p://www.weightcontroldoctor.com/healthtopics/liverdiet/default.asp</A>

If you'll scroll down to the bottom, I noticed the book " The Liver Cleansing

Diet, " book is at the bottom. It's $20.

Susie

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: Tishri7@...

gallstones

Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 9:56 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Well I did it

In a message dated 2/23/2003 7:47:40 PM Central Standard Time,

serricat@... writes:

Hi Susie: Well where do you go to get this diet info?

Walt

> Dr. Cabot's book, " The Liver Cleansing Diet " has been

> invaluable to me and I am very grateful to have learned about it from

> this web site.

,

I like you must have been very toxic. I used to have awful allergies, but I

just brushed it off to the area where I live thinking it was ragweed or

something like that. However, when I started Dr. Cabot's 8-week plan a

couple of years ago, I guess it was, it was exactly on the 3rd day that I

woke up one morning and felt clear-headed, no runny nose at all. I'm sure

some of it was getting off sugar-free cold drinks too. But a lot of it was

starting her eating plan. Now I don't have allergy problems. I also know

that doing these cleanses helps get rid of the toxins.

Susie

[Guest guest]

Good on you honey. Keeping my fingers crossed that the application goes through without any hassles.

Luv

anne

Well I did it

I was so discouraged that last time I went to the Social Security office that I never appealed the decision or anything. Come to find out the girl at the office in Tulsa, only filed for SSI. Well I wanted to apply for SSD. I was happy today when the girl did both. I was immediately denial for SSI, my husband makes too much money.

But SSD she said things looked good, and I will be hearing from their doctor's soon for appointments. Coolness.

Anyway wish me luck.

Love

JanetLife is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile.

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Oh I will I am researching Attorney's now just in case. I feel hopeful about this. I am using muliply illnesses for my disability. Since I have hospital and doctor records for all it helps. love JanetJackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: well whatever happens, with this first time , IF they deny you the ssdi, do NOT give up,, KEEP appealing it, it took me 3 appeals

to get mine!Janet <doc_jade > wrote: I was so discouraged that last time I went to the Social Security office that I never appealed the decision or anything. Come to find out the girl at the office in Tulsa, only filed for SSI. Well I wanted to apply for SSD. I was happy today when the girl did both. I was immediately denial for SSI, my husband makes too much money. But SSD she said things looked good, and I will be hearing from their doctor's soon for appointments. Coolness. Anyway wish me luck. Love JanetLife is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile. Jackie Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile.