Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 You obviously have your act together. Have you tried a Novalite or VIBE device? What about pancreatic enzymes? I don't know about costs, but I know there is at least one doctor in my area, Atlanta, that does some of the things you are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Wow -- advising someone on this is fraught with peril. I will say this -- several of the things you listed are very expensive -- Poly MVA, IV C, and that vaccine sounds expensive. I've taken a route of 7 or 8 of the most promising alternative approaches at once: LDN, FO/CC, beta glucan, IP6, Sutherlandia OPC, Artemix, bloodroot, and a bevy of supplements including vitamins, enzymes, etc. My costs are about $500 a month. $9,400 would last about 19 months. But I don't have lung cancer, and perhaps your reading indicates that your approach is better. I guess my issue is the cost/benefit ratio. I'm not so sure that IV C, ozone and laetrile from this clinic offer the best cost/benefit ratio. > > I've got to decide if I want to spend the last amount of savings I > have to do on a protocol in a Mexican Clinic which will include: > > Surgery for Subclavical Port for I.V. infusion and Ozone > I would be sent home with I.V. supplies which would include a six > week course of: > > Vitamin C 20-25 grams > Sodium Bicarbonate > Laetrile > Poly-MVA > German-based Vaccine based on my own urine > > I would be instructed on the use of Ozone from the Mexican doctors. > Ozone is the best thing for lung cancer. If I continued with my own > naturopath here, his treatment alone over the next six weeks would > total $3,000 and I would only be getting 1 hour of Ozone 2x a week. > I could now get 100x the Ozone in my lungs FOR FREE with my new > machine. > > The total cost of the treatment is $9,400. Which I think is pretty > cheap for a daily six week program. I think they charge $14,000 if > you are in-house. Plus this includes the surgery. > > I have been feeling more pain in my chest where the largest tumor is > (3.5 cm x 1.9 cm). I coughed a lot this week-end. I am FEELING that > tumor near my heart valve. I was going to do this therapy two years > ago, but the expense of it was something I couldn't afford. > > The downside to this if I go is that it wipes out ALL of my savings. > I still work, but then I have no money to back me up. On the other > hand, it might save my life and after the $3,000 I would have spent > anyway on the naturopath, I am only out about $6,400. > > When you get to my stage, you have to do DRASTIC things NOW. My bones > and liver are clear. It is " localized " metastized in the lungs (from > an original diagnosis of breast cancer. > > Any thoughts out there? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 have you looked into iPT? its chemo, but at a tenth of the dosage and suppsodly very effective.. It may cost less.. A doc in Mexico odes it for about $850 a treament and each tretment last only about an hour to 2 hours.. His granfather inevented the techniquee.. Name is Donato garcia.. ther are also osme docs that do it in the uSA...its cost effective compared to regular chemo,a nd much less toxic,a nd some great reults.. just google " insulin potentaion therapy " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 , I am praying for you. I have leukemia and it is starting to turn against me. Have you thought of the hippocrates Institue in Florida. It is much cheaper and they have amazing success with cancer Glenn dorrnancy wrote: > I've got to decide if I want to spend the last amount of savings I > have to do on a protocol in a Mexican Clinic..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 there's also the Gerson Institute , in san diego, where a lot of people have had success..its juicing and cleansing i believe.. I myself would opt for iPT, if I was at that point..seesm tot be the msot aggressive tretament ,but wmuch lesser toxicity tahn regular chemo,and the price at $850 per, is not outrageous.. most clinincs do it on a once a week basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Please look into the Eby research articles on the web concerning ZINC for chronic leukemia. My mother-in-law has this and is doing OK but is not " well " and she is taking the zinc among other things. Jp , I am praying for you. I have leukemia and it is starting to turn against me. Have you thought of the hippocrates Institue in Florida. It is much cheaper and they have amazing success with cancer Glenn dorrnancy wrote: > I've got to decide if I want to spend the last amount of savings I > have to do on a protocol in a Mexican Clinic..... ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Dear Glenn: I am so sorry to hear about your cancer turning. I will pray for you. I know a lot about raw foods and can do this in my own home----sprouting, cleansing, raw foods, juicing, colonics, wheatgrass, etc. I am actually going to start growing my own wheatgrass. My grower has been in storage for years. Go figure! Thank you for your kind thoughts. > I've got to decide if I want to spend the last amount of savings I > have to do on a protocol in a Mexican Clinic..... ------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Thanks ! I would be able to do the Gersen treatment at home. I am pretty much following their regimen already, though I don't do carrots per the Cousins Rainbow Diet Phase I protocol. Thanks for your concern. From: VINCENT TOKATLIAN <vttttt@...> Subject: Re: [ ] HEADED TO MEXICO??? Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 6:29 AM there's also the Gerson Institute , in san diego, where a lot of people have had success..its juicing and cleansing i believe.. I myself would opt for iPT, if I was at that point..seesm tot be the msot aggressive tretament ,but wmuch lesser toxicity tahn regular chemo,and the price at $850 per, is not outrageous.. most clinincs do it on a once a week basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Jim: I would like to look into the supplements you mentioned. What is FO/CC? Can I readily find the others on the internet or iherb? From: jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10@...> Subject: [ ] Re: HEADED TO MEXICO??? Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 2:50 PM Wow -- advising someone on this is fraught with peril. I will say this -- several of the things you listed are very expensive -- Poly MVA, IV C, and that vaccine sounds expensive. I've taken a route of 7 or 8 of the most promising alternative approaches at once: LDN, FO/CC, beta glucan, IP6, Sutherlandia OPC, Artemix, bloodroot, and a bevy of supplements including vitamins, enzymes, etc. My costs are about $500 a month. $9,400 would last about 19 months. But I don't have lung cancer, and perhaps your reading indicates that your approach is better. I guess my issue is the cost/benefit ratio. I'm not so sure that IV C, ozone and laetrile from this clinic offer the best cost/benefit ratio. > > I've got to decide if I want to spend the last amount of savings I > have to do on a protocol in a Mexican Clinic which will include: > > Surgery for Subclavical Port for I.V. infusion and Ozone > I would be sent home with I.V. supplies which would include a six > week course of: > > Vitamin C 20-25 grams > Sodium Bicarbonate > Laetrile > Poly-MVA > German-based Vaccine based on my own urine > > I would be instructed on the use of Ozone from the Mexican doctors. > Ozone is the best thing for lung cancer. If I continued with my own > naturopath here, his treatment alone over the next six weeks would > total $3,000 and I would only be getting 1 hour of Ozone 2x a week. > I could now get 100x the Ozone in my lungs FOR FREE with my new > machine. > > The total cost of the treatment is $9,400. Which I think is pretty > cheap for a daily six week program. I think they charge $14,000 if > you are in-house. Plus this includes the surgery. > > I have been feeling more pain in my chest where the largest tumor is > (3.5 cm x 1.9 cm). I coughed a lot this week-end. I am FEELING that > tumor near my heart valve. I was going to do this therapy two years > ago, but the expense of it was something I couldn't afford. > > The downside to this if I go is that it wipes out ALL of my savings. > I still work, but then I have no money to back me up. On the other > hand, it might save my life and after the $3,000 I would have spent > anyway on the naturopath, I am only out about $6,400. > > When you get to my stage, you have to do DRASTIC things NOW. My bones > and liver are clear. It is " localized " metastized in the lungs (from > an original diagnosis of breast cancer. > > Any thoughts out there? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 In a message dated 11/27/08 3:08:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, jim.mcelroy10@... writes: > Oleander extract --> www.sutherlandiaopc.com > Is this what is referred to as Oleander soup? ************** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & amp;icid=aolcom40vanity & amp;ncid=emlcntaolcom0\ 0000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 > > Jim: > > I would like to look into the supplements you mentioned. What is FO/CC? Can I readily find the others on the internet or iherb? > > > FO / CC = flaxseed oil mixed with cottage cheese. Many references on the internet. Look for " Budwig diet " or " Budwig protocol " . However, Budwig proponents probably wouldn't approve of many of the other supplements I mentioned. LDN = Low dose naltrexone. www.low dose naltrexone.org Oleander extract --> www.sutherlandiaopc.com Artemix -- a form of artemisinin (sp?) Several recent postings regarding this. Beta Glucan --> one of several possible immune system boosters. Some discussion around here about which is best. Some prefer mushroom mixtures. I prefer the straight beta glucan derived from yeast. But hard to prove which is best. Bloodroot -- a bit obscure. Can mess up your tummy. May kill cancer cells directly. If you have a tumor choking off a major artery, that is deadly serious. I should not recommend a course of action. If it was me, I would probably hit my system with everything I canfrom the above list -- especially the artemix and oleander. But if it is truly life threatening, surgery might be the best thing to buy you more time to try other approaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Thanks Jim. My tumor is not directly next to one of the heart valves, but if the tumor were to grow it would certainly become more life-threatening. n. From: jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10@...> Subject: [ ] Re: HEADED TO MEXICO??? Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 12:08 PM > > Jim: > > I would like to look into the supplements you mentioned. What is FO/CC? Can I readily find the others on the internet or iherb? > > > FO / CC = flaxseed oil mixed with cottage cheese. Many references on the internet. Look for " Budwig diet " or " Budwig protocol " . However, Budwig proponents probably wouldn't approve of many of the other supplements I mentioned. LDN = Low dose naltrexone. www.lowdosenaltrexo ne.org Oleander extract --> www.sutherlandiaopc .com Artemix -- a form of artemisinin (sp?) Several recent postings regarding this. Beta Glucan --> one of several possible immune system boosters. Some discussion around here about which is best. Some prefer mushroom mixtures. I prefer the straight beta glucan derived from yeast. But hard to prove which is best. Bloodroot -- a bit obscure. Can mess up your tummy. May kill cancer cells directly. If you have a tumor choking off a major artery, that is deadly serious. I should not recommend a course of action. If it was me, I would probably hit my system with everything I canfrom the above list -- especially the artemix and oleander. But if it is truly life threatening, surgery might be the best thing to buy you more time to try other approaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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