Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Thanks for the update - have been wondering how things were going with you. The reaction from your orthodox practitioners just sounds so familiar! All the best with your next steps. Rowena down under Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 , I am sorry to learn about your problems. I am sure that with your knowledge and your network, you will be able to solve the problems with natural therapies. God bless you. Jim King In a message dated 12/31/2009 1:37:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, vgammill@... writes: Recap: After compiling much evidence that I had cancer, my HMO reluctantly did a colonoscopy in April of this year. I was sneeringly informed that I was a hypochondriac and that I should return for a follow up colonoscopy in ten years. After a worsening of symptoms they begrudgingly gave me an ultrasound three months ago. Biopsy revealed a large squamous cell cancer. The HMO said, " No problem, they would cure it with chemo and conformal radiation. " Update: Based on the HMO's CT reports I decided that a better option would be for me to do anal photodynamic therapy to cure the lesion in my anus and then I would have the rectum resected (end-to-end anastomosis) with intrasurgical PDT to clean up anything that remained. This would be a procedure with a curative intent. I went to Shenzhen, China to the Beijing University hospital and was admitted to their ward for minimally invasive therapies. I did the initial PDT and then waited a couple of weeks for that to heal before doing the surgery with PDT. A pre-surgical CT revealed that the cancer had metastasized to the bladder, prostate, seminal vesicles, sphincter, etc. Not only would surgery be useless, but we at least knew that chemo with conformal radiation as planned by the HMO would be a gross undertreatment and a death sentence. I immediately returned to Southern California. The HMO showed their same arrogance. They called China a third world country and refused to look at the new CTs. This happened before when I showed them Mexican CTs. They refused to look at them. The HMO wanted to do their own CT, PET-CT, and sigmoidoscopy. I completed the first two and then I had the sigmoidoscopy today from their surgeon. The surgeon flitted through the new CT, said that the cancer was too advanced for chemo or radiation and that I must immediately schedule a pelvic exenteration so I could enjoy my short remaining life with permanent bags for colon and urine. I told him that I have access to many other treatments that others might only dream about. I know that they had royally screwed up in the past but at this point all I really needed was help with monitoring and assessing my situation. I told him that as soon as I learned from the Chinese that the surgery-PDT would not work, I immediately started on my own protocol of " natural " treatments and I was hoping for their cooperation by ongoing assessments to help let me know if I was winning or losing. I mentioned that during the one week's time that I have been doing my own thing I have reduced vicodin consumption from about 8 per day to zero per day and that two weeks ago my rectal lumen was about half a centimeter (about like a soda straw) but now I could pass stools the size of a cigar. I have no evidence that I am getting worse -- quite the opposite. Close and accurate monitoring is essential for my success. Could the HMO help? Unfortunately the surgeon did not want to hear a word of what I was saying; he wanted to start cutting me apart immediately. During the past two months I have had much time to reflect on my HMO treatment. It could not have been worse than if they got together in a back room and said, " What can we do to try to convince this guy he doesn't have cancer, and then what can we do to kill him miserably and quickly? " They have circled the wagons and none of them will admit that they or their predecessors did anything wrong. I still have my non-profit seminars retreat program in which I help cancer patients solve problems and hook them up with treatments that are likely to work within their budget range. I may take it easy next week as I need to do some work in my lab (this time for me !!), and then crank up for the week of January 10th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Welcome back home, . I'm so sorry that you are having difficulty with your HMO - no surprise there, I guess. HMOs are great if you never get sick. I am saddened by your diagnosis, and I give you all my support as you treat yourself. ar -- Arlyn Grant arlynsg@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 My dear ...it is good to hear from you but not so good to hear the news of advanced cancer. These HMO's have got to go..they did great harm to my best friend Robin as well. Don't hesitate to file a complaint with the licensing board of your state..it can sometimes help. A letter from a lawyer could be helpful as well. You need the HMO to do what you need done. Are you on LDN? You never mentioned this. What other treatments are you planning on doing? You are an inspiration to us all and we love you dearly. Sending you many hugs and prayers. May 2010 be your golden year for success. Love, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 You are an inspiration to all of us . [ ] Return from China > Recap: > > After compiling much evidence that I had cancer, my HMO reluctantly > did a colonoscopy in April of this year. I was sneeringly informed > that I was a hypochondriac and that I should return for a follow up > colonoscopy in ten years. After a worsening of symptoms they > begrudgingly gave me an ultrasound three months ago. Biopsy revealed > a large squamous cell cancer. The HMO said, " No problem, they would > cure it with chemo and conformal radiation. " > > Update: > > Based on the HMO's CT reports I decided that a better option would be > for me to do anal photodynamic therapy to cure the lesion in my anus > and then I would have the rectum resected (end-to-end anastomosis) > with intrasurgical PDT to clean up anything that remained. This > would be a procedure with a curative intent. > > I went to Shenzhen, China to the Beijing University hospital and was > admitted to their ward for minimally invasive therapies. I did the > initial PDT and then waited a couple of weeks for that to heal before > doing the surgery with PDT. A pre-surgical CT revealed that the > cancer had metastasized to the bladder, prostate, seminal vesicles, > sphincter, etc. Not only would surgery be useless, but we at least > knew that chemo with conformal radiation as planned by the HMO would > be a gross undertreatment and a death sentence. > > I immediately returned to Southern California. The HMO showed their > same arrogance. They called China a third world country and refused > to look at the new CTs. This happened before when I showed them > Mexican CTs. They refused to look at them. The HMO wanted to do > their own CT, PET-CT, and sigmoidoscopy. I completed the first two > and then I had the sigmoidoscopy today from their surgeon. The > surgeon flitted through the new CT, said that the cancer was too > advanced for chemo or radiation and that I must immediately schedule > a pelvic exenteration so I could enjoy my short remaining life with > permanent bags for colon and urine. > > I told him that I have access to many other treatments that others > might only dream about. I know that they had royally screwed up in > the past but at this point all I really needed was help with > monitoring and assessing my situation. I told him that as soon as I > learned from the Chinese that the surgery-PDT would not work, I > immediately started on my own protocol of " natural " treatments and I > was hoping for their cooperation by ongoing assessments to help let > me know if I was winning or losing. I mentioned that during the one > week's time that I have been doing my own thing I have reduced > vicodin consumption from about 8 per day to zero per day and that two > weeks ago my rectal lumen was about half a centimeter (about like a > soda straw) but now I could pass stools the size of a cigar. I have > no evidence that I am getting worse -- quite the opposite. Close and > accurate monitoring is essential for my success. Could the HMO > help? Unfortunately the surgeon did not want to hear a word of what > I was saying; he wanted to start cutting me apart immediately. > > During the past two months I have had much time to reflect on my HMO > treatment. It could not have been worse than if they got together in > a back room and said, " What can we do to try to convince this guy he > doesn't have cancer, and then what can we do to kill him miserably > and quickly? " They have circled the wagons and none of them will > admit that they or their predecessors did anything wrong. > > I still have my non-profit seminars retreat program in which I help > cancer patients solve problems and hook them up with treatments that > are likely to work within their budget range. I may take it easy > next week as I need to do some work in my lab (this time for me !!), > and then crank up for the week of January 10th. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Thanks for the update, ! Best wishes to you for full cure and recovery, health and wellness. RB Posted by: " VGammill " vgammill@... Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:37 pm (PST) Recap: After compiling much evidence that I had cancer, my HMO reluctantly did a colonoscopy in April of this year. I was sneeringly informed that I was a hypochondriac and that I should return for a follow up colonoscopy in ten years. After a worsening of symptoms they begrudgingly gave me an ultrasound three months ago. Biopsy revealed a large squamous cell cancer. The HMO said, " No problem, they would cure it with chemo and conformal radiation. " Update: Based on the HMO's CT reports I decided that a better option would be for me to do anal photodynamic therapy to cure the lesion in my anus and then I would have the rectum resected (end-to-end anastomosis) with intrasurgical PDT to clean up anything that remained. This would be a procedure with a curative intent. I went to Shenzhen, China to the Beijing University hospital and was admitted to their ward for minimally invasive therapies. I did the initial PDT and then waited a couple of weeks for that to heal before doing the surgery with PDT. A pre-surgical CT revealed that the cancer had metastasized to the bladder, prostate, seminal vesicles, sphincter, etc. Not only would surgery be useless, but we at least knew that chemo with conformal radiation as planned by the HMO would be a gross undertreatment and a death sentence. I immediately returned to Southern California. The HMO showed their same arrogance. They called China a third world country and refused to look at the new CTs. This happened before when I showed them Mexican CTs. They refused to look at them. The HMO wanted to do their own CT, PET-CT, and sigmoidoscopy. I completed the first two and then I had the sigmoidoscopy today from their surgeon. The surgeon flitted through the new CT, said that the cancer was too advanced for chemo or radiation and that I must immediately schedule a pelvic exenteration so I could enjoy my short remaining life with permanent bags for colon and urine. I told him that I have access to many other treatments that others might only dream about. I know that they had royally screwed up in the past but at this point all I really needed was help with monitoring and assessing my situation. I told him that as soon as I learned from the Chinese that the surgery-PDT would not work, I immediately started on my own protocol of " natural " treatments and I was hoping for their cooperation by ongoing assessments to help let me know if I was winning or losing. I mentioned that during the one week's time that I have been doing my own thing I have reduced vicodin consumption from about 8 per day to zero per day and that two weeks ago my rectal lumen was about half a centimeter (about like a soda straw) but now I could pass stools the size of a cigar. I have no evidence that I am getting worse -- quite the opposite. Close and accurate monitoring is essential for my success. Could the HMO help? Unfortunately the surgeon did not want to hear a word of what I was saying; he wanted to start cutting me apart immediately. During the past two months I have had much time to reflect on my HMO treatment. It could not have been worse than if they got together in a back room and said, " What can we do to try to convince this guy he doesn't have cancer, and then what can we do to kill him miserably and quickly? " They have circled the wagons and none of them will admit that they or their predecessors did anything wrong. I still have my non-profit seminars retreat program in which I help cancer patients solve problems and hook them up with treatments that are likely to work within their budget range. I may take it easy next week as I need to do some work in my lab (this time for me !!), and then crank up for the week of January 10th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 , With your knowledge, etc. you will beat this....Those HMO doctors are, what's the word, so pompous. Their narrow view is killing so many people. POWER TO THE WHITE CELLS. from Seattle > > Recap: > > After compiling much evidence that I had cancer, my HMO reluctantly > did a colonoscopy in April of this year. I was sneeringly informed > that I was a hypochondriac and that I should return for a follow up > colonoscopy in ten years. After a worsening of symptoms they > begrudgingly gave me an ultrasound three months ago. Biopsy revealed > a large squamous cell cancer. The HMO said, " No problem, they would > cure it with chemo and conformal radiation. " > > Update: > > Based on the HMO's CT reports I decided that a better option would be > for me to do anal photodynamic therapy to cure the lesion in my anus > and then I would have the rectum resected (end-to-end anastomosis) > with intrasurgical PDT to clean up anything that remained. This > would be a procedure with a curative intent. > > I went to Shenzhen, China to the Beijing University hospital and was > admitted to their ward for minimally invasive therapies. I did the > initial PDT and then waited a couple of weeks for that to heal before > doing the surgery with PDT. A pre-surgical CT revealed that the > cancer had metastasized to the bladder, prostate, seminal vesicles, > sphincter, etc. Not only would surgery be useless, but we at least > knew that chemo with conformal radiation as planned by the HMO would > be a gross undertreatment and a death sentence. > > I immediately returned to Southern California. The HMO showed their > same arrogance. They called China a third world country and refused > to look at the new CTs. This happened before when I showed them > Mexican CTs. They refused to look at them. The HMO wanted to do > their own CT, PET-CT, and sigmoidoscopy. I completed the first two > and then I had the sigmoidoscopy today from their surgeon. The > surgeon flitted through the new CT, said that the cancer was too > advanced for chemo or radiation and that I must immediately schedule > a pelvic exenteration so I could enjoy my short remaining life with > permanent bags for colon and urine. > > I told him that I have access to many other treatments that others > might only dream about. I know that they had royally screwed up in > the past but at this point all I really needed was help with > monitoring and assessing my situation. I told him that as soon as I > learned from the Chinese that the surgery-PDT would not work, I > immediately started on my own protocol of " natural " treatments and I > was hoping for their cooperation by ongoing assessments to help let > me know if I was winning or losing. I mentioned that during the one > week's time that I have been doing my own thing I have reduced > vicodin consumption from about 8 per day to zero per day and that two > weeks ago my rectal lumen was about half a centimeter (about like a > soda straw) but now I could pass stools the size of a cigar. I have > no evidence that I am getting worse -- quite the opposite. Close and > accurate monitoring is essential for my success. Could the HMO > help? Unfortunately the surgeon did not want to hear a word of what > I was saying; he wanted to start cutting me apart immediately. > > During the past two months I have had much time to reflect on my HMO > treatment. It could not have been worse than if they got together in > a back room and said, " What can we do to try to convince this guy he > doesn't have cancer, and then what can we do to kill him miserably > and quickly? " They have circled the wagons and none of them will > admit that they or their predecessors did anything wrong. > > I still have my non-profit seminars retreat program in which I help > cancer patients solve problems and hook them up with treatments that > are likely to work within their budget range. I may take it easy > next week as I need to do some work in my lab (this time for me !!), > and then crank up for the week of January 10th. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 hi and happy new year. I want to tell you I glad your looking at other treatments. as I know there is hope with metastasis as I have it. I have advanced prostate cancer, I once had it in my ribs and my lower back my doctors told me I had may be three to five years. Like you I didn't believe them. and I'm glade I didn't believe them as you didn't also and I looked for other ways, to fight this I read a report that B17 is useless at fighting cancer but it stops metastasized cancer dead in it tracks. I've been on amongst other thing vitamin B17, by having 30 apricot pits a day, plus zinc (B17 courier into the cancer cell ) and the pineapple enzyme Bromelain (that weakens the cancer tumor so the B17 can get to it ) for a year and a half now it works all the best Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hi If you can get the B17 I have read that cancer research has shown it stops cancer metes . but you can also get B17 from other things like Apple seeds. A lot of us have found that have as long as we have a table spoon once a day it will work. In my last post to you I miss letting you know how I have the B17. My method is I grind up about 30 apricot pits a day in a little coffee grinder. than add this to a glass of cold milk steer and drink the mix, as fast as I can I nave had no ill effects from this, beside a bit of an after taste. and I know it works cheers Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Steve, I will be interested in receiving the link for the enzymes he used. Thanks. Jim In a message dated 1/1/2010 10:49:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lmcs@... writes: Dear I am very sorry to hear of your health challenges now. I know you have a great deal of tools in your arsenal but I wanted to bring up the protocol. Since the disease has metastisized I would think a systemic approach is really needed. I just finished reading this book for a second time, and Dr. makes a pretty strong case using peer reviewed research for the Trophoblast Theory of Cancer and the use of oral pancreatic enzymes (a lot of them) to treat it. Would you consider being a patient of his ? If not, he does identify what enzymes he used in the first 10 years of his practice. If interested I can send a link for those as well. His protocol also includes a specific diet for each persons metabolic type. Best wishes, steve _http://www.dr-http://wwhttp://wwwhtt_ (http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/index.htm) _http://www.newsprinhttp://www.http://www_ (http://www.newspringpress.com/troph.html) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Dear I am very sorry to hear of your health challenges now. I know you have a great deal of tools in your arsenal but I wanted to bring up the protocol. Since the disease has metastisized I would think a systemic approach is really needed. I just finished reading this book for a second time, and Dr. makes a pretty strong case using peer reviewed research for the Trophoblast Theory of Cancer and the use of oral pancreatic enzymes (a lot of them) to treat it. Would you consider being a patient of his ? If not, he does identify what enzymes he used in the first 10 years of his practice. If interested I can send a link for those as well. His protocol also includes a specific diet for each persons metabolic type. Best wishes, steve http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/index.htm http://www.newspringpress.com/troph.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I wish you the best of luck and you do what is right for you! Doctors are too quick to draw the knife so to speak I believe! Donna ACS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Hi Steve, Are you a patient of Dr. ? My husband was considering going to him but he is very expensive and it is not pay as you go, you have to commit to the entire sum up front. We were a bit uncomfortable with that. However if you or anyone else reading this, has been a patient of his and can give some feedback, we'd sure appreciate it. Thanks Nili From: steve_lmcs Dear I am very sorry to hear of your health challenges now. I know you have a great deal of tools in your arsenal but I wanted to bring up the protocol. Since the disease has metastisized I would think a systemic approach is really needed. I just finished reading this book for a second time, and Dr. makes a pretty strong case using peer reviewed research for the Trophoblast Theory of Cancer and the use of oral pancreatic enzymes (a lot of them) to treat it. Would you consider being a patient of his ? If not, he does identify what enzymes he used in the first 10 years of his practice. If interested I can send a link for those as well. His protocol also includes a specific diet for each persons metabolic type. Best wishes, steve http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/index.htm http://www.newspringpress.com/troph.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 Please, can you detail about photodynamic therapy? What photosensitizing agent is used in China? Also, I have read that photodynamic therapy can be systemic treatment, they irradiate a patient's whole body with the light, rather than treating only the area where cancer is present. Is it true? thanks for any info karla > > Recap: > > After compiling much evidence that I had cancer, my HMO reluctantly > did a colonoscopy in April of this year. I was sneeringly informed > that I was a hypochondriac and that I should return for a follow up > colonoscopy in ten years. After a worsening of symptoms they > begrudgingly gave me an ultrasound three months ago. Biopsy revealed > a large squamous cell cancer. The HMO said, " No problem, they would > cure it with chemo and conformal radiation. " > > Update: > > Based on the HMO's CT reports I decided that a better option would be > for me to do anal photodynamic therapy to cure the lesion in my anus > and then I would have the rectum resected (end-to-end anastomosis) > with intrasurgical PDT to clean up anything that remained. This > would be a procedure with a curative intent. > > I went to Shenzhen, China to the Beijing University hospital and was > admitted to their ward for minimally invasive therapies..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 " steve_lmcs " <lmcs@...> wrote: >...what enzymes he used in the first 10 years Allergy Research Group (ARG)'s Pancreas Pork (877-259-3393/800-545-9960/210-658-5562 www.nutricology.com/store/product.php?productid=16547 & cat=0 & page=1 may be cheaper to buy it from www.vitacost.com This product is much better for healing cancer than Wobenzyme or any of the other popular enzyme products, and it's economical. However, I've never heard of enzymes or Kelley/ being particularly effective w/squamous cell carcinoma (SCC). They're most effective with LEUKEMIA, lymphoma, melanoma, myeloma, soft-tissue sarcoma, and pancreatic cancer. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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