RE: Re: IPT Sucess Stories

[Guest guest]

Over the past couple of years I have become less impressed with IPT, at least

with the ways I see it administered. I often see stabilization of disease or

tumor shrinkage, but no increase in survivability. I think there are better and

less expensive ways to treat most cancers.

A year ago I was offered IPT for stage 4 rectal cancer. I appreciated the offer

of free services but I declined and only did my own program. My last PET-CT

which was last week showed no evidence of cancer, only of continued healing from

the pelvic fractures. I’ve regained my weight and restored all pelvic

functions. Cancer is like a distant memory.

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Leonard

Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 7:48 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: IPT Sucess Stories

" gvblk4msn " <gvblk4@...> wrote:

> I'd like to hear some sucess stories re: IPT therapy

I've seen hundreds of success stories but don't have a compilation of them, and

I don't think isolated success stories are 1 of the better ways of evaluating a

cancer therapy.

An IPT study:

" randomized clinical trial...30 women with metastatic breast cancer resistant to

[chemo] and...hormone therapy....the methotrexate-treated group and the

insulin-treated group responded most frequently with progressive disease. The

group treated with insulin + methotrexate responded most frequently with stable

disease. The median increase in tumor size was significantly lower with insulin

+ methotrexate....results confirmed...in vitro studies showing...that insulin

potentiates methotrexate " Lasalvia-Prisco et al, 2004, Cancer Chemotherapy and

Pharmacology, 53(3), 220-224, www.springerlink.com/content/u5wrtgt65bfkmkq5,

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14655024

“I don't think it should be used on stage one cancers. There are better

ways to handle the situation. It seems useful for stage two cancers and very

useful for stage three cancers. Stage four cancers should be a judgment call. I

have often seen it work on stage four cancers as part of a much greater

aggressive protocol. Such a protocol usually includes whole body hyperthermia

with sensitizers†Gammill, 12/27/05

It works best w/breast, prostate, lung [sCLC & NSCLC], colon, lymphoma

[including NHL], and melanoma. Also very effective w/myeloma and ovarian cancer.

Also somewhat effective w/esophageal and pancreatic cancer. It’s usually

not very effective w/brain cancer and slow-growing cancers.

For more info,

www.iptq.com

www.iptforcancer.com

www.ioipcenter.org

www.ElkaBest.com

>does insurance at least cover the ingredients

historically no, but recently " many insurances cover IPT now, but you don't

`share’ much info. about the IPT part on the paperworkâ€Â. I heard a

doctor say you have a much better chance of insurance coverage if you call it

“low-dose chemotherapy†rather than “IPT†on the

insurance form.

Let me know if you'd like more info on IPT or IPT doctors.

Leonard

[Guest guest]

Leonard,

I have commented on this piecemeal many times in the past; I hardly know

where to begin. Name a single IPT therapist who thinks about the fate of

platinum (or other cytotoxins) when administered week after week and taken

up into salvage pathways? What about the accrued take up of those meds with

a lifetime limit such as doxorubicin or mitomycin C? What is being done to

thwart multiple drug resistance? Clinicians don't have time and often not

even the ability to think. They are more concerned about recruiting

patients and finding creative ways to make patients pay up. They are

competing with not only conventional oncologists but their own alternative

colleagues. They understand how IPT is a targeting therapy, but they

ignore a dozen other targeting therapies that could additively serve them

well if they paid more attention to the chemistry, biochemistry,

pathophysiology, and cancer cell biology.

Clinicians focus on ways to " stimulate " immune function while ignoring its

regulatory aspects, the myriad ways that cancer evades immune surveillance,

and the subtleties of cell signaling. I have come across only one IPT

clinician who is familiar with epithelial-to-mesenchymal transition or who

acknowledges that low grade cancer cells will not respond to IPT - but can

be ultimately more life-threatening. Of course it would be leaving money on

the table to share this information with patients. How many clinicians

bother to reflect on the futility of using IPT with cytotoxic agents that

only work on the cancer cell membrane?

It is not a big deal to get tumor shrinkage with IPT or with full dose

chemotherapy. The big deal is making the progress durable.

As to the last part of your question, when is IPT a wise choice? This is

too complex to answer. What else is available? Is a person willing to do a

far more effective treatment that carries risk? Is the patient a thinker

who wants to participate in decision making? How much fight is in the

patient? Ask me an easier question.

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Leonard

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:56 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: IPT Sucess Stories

" Gammill " <vgammill@...> wrote:

<<I have become less impressed with IPT, at least with the ways I see it

administered>>

Any thoughts on the best ways to administer it, or the situations for which

you think it's a wise choice?

Leonard

[Guest guest]

,

I don't know much about alternative therapies, except using certain

herbs--astragalus, ginseng, for immune support. But you make a great point: " How

much fight is in the patient? " I had a lot of fight, but knew that once the

heavy chemo hit that could dissipate over time (especially when confronted with

high-dose chemo of two stem cell transplants). I went the conventional route as

the cancer was stage four lymphoma and I couldn't spend time investigating;

also, even back in the early nineties chemo was effective for the type of

lymphoma I contracted.

But to keep my level of " piss and vinegar " where I needed it, I practiced

qigong--Chinese mind/body exercises. I didn't think much of the concept of

chi--internal energy--when I began, instead focussing on the " Western " benefits

of deep abdominal breathing. The type of qigong I chose also was important:

standing post meditation, which is used for both health and martial arts and is

a difficult discipline. Simple, but not easy. At any rate, it kept me strong and

focussed throughout my four bouts by reinforcing my will every day and

empowering me to take part in my recovery. I've been clear of lymphoma since

'96 and still practice an hour or more a day. Is it a " miracle cure? " Absolutely

not. But I believe it's an important adjunct to any type of therapy, allopathic

or alternative.

Regards,

Bob Ellal

Leonard,

I have commented on this piecemeal many times in the past; I hardly know

where to begin. Name a single IPT therapist who thinks about the fate of

platinum (or other cytotoxins) when administered week after week and taken

up into salvage pathways? What about the accrued take up of those meds with

a lifetime limit such as doxorubicin or mitomycin C? What is being done to

thwart multiple drug resistance? Clinicians don't have time and often not

even the ability to think. They are more concerned about recruiting

patients and finding creative ways to make patients pay up. They are

competing with not only conventional oncologists but their own alternative

colleagues. They understand how IPT is a targeting therapy, but they

ignore a dozen other targeting therapies that could additively serve them

well if they paid more attention to the chemistry, biochemistry,

pathophysiology, and cancer cell biology.

Clinicians focus on ways to " stimulate " immune function while ignoring its

regulatory aspects, the myriad ways that cancer evades immune surveillance,

and the subtleties of cell signaling. I have come across only one IPT

clinician who is familiar with epithelial-to-mesenchymal transition or who

acknowledges that low grade cancer cells will not respond to IPT - but can

be ultimately more life-threatening. Of course it would be leaving money on

the table to share this information with patients. How many clinicians

bother to reflect on the futility of using IPT with cytotoxic agents that

only work on the cancer cell membrane?

It is not a big deal to get tumor shrinkage with IPT or with full dose

chemotherapy. The big deal is making the progress durable.

As to the last part of your question, when is IPT a wise choice? This is

too complex to answer. What else is available? Is a person willing to do a

far more effective treatment that carries risk? Is the patient a thinker

who wants to participate in decision making? How much fight is in the

patient? Ask me an easier question.

[Guest guest]

Most IPT docs use IPT in conjunction with many other therapies that are

ignored or decried by conventional practitioners. The treatment that gets

the credit for any positive results is often the most profitable, marketable

or exclusive treatment. The physician tries to balance the credit between

the most profitable treatment and the superiority of his/her own

physicianing skills. Failures are blamed on the patient, of course. As not

everyone has the skills to treat themselves, I'm going to write a book

entitled, " How to Find a Doctor Who is Not a Sociopath. "

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From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf Of Prem Carol

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:48 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: IPT Sucess Stories

Hi Greg and All,

I myself am recovered from stage 4 uterine cancer, almost 4 years now, and

IPT was my choice after surgery. Only 9 treatments in 2 months did the trick

plus some follow ups.

You can read more stories at www.iptforcancer.com and go to the patient

survivor site. Read Annie's story with metastasized breast cancer to full

recovery, for example.

I have helped many people find IPT since then, and have seen and heard many

recovery stories while getting my monthly vitamin C preventative drips at

the clinic.

One such story that sticks in my mind is when the husband asked the doctor

about his wife's clear test results and amazing recovery from a very severe

cancer. " But doctor, " he said, " How is it that my wife has recovered when

the traditional doctors said there was no hope? "

The doctor replied, " They just don't know what we do here. It's not their

fault. They weren't trained in our methods. "

I personally believe that healing takes place on many levels.

If chemo is your choice of recovery, I personally feel that IPT is the way

to go. I have witnessed people getting traditional chemo with only a

fraction of one drug I had, and having side effects. I had 4 drugs and No

side effects! just....the good effect of the recovery.

I strongly intuit that each individual has to totally be on board with their

method of choice. That is a big part of the battle.

I am always glad to hear of other ways, such as 's recovery.

Equally, I have had to accept that my father choice radiation and

traditional chemo last year, and because he believed in it 100%, it seemed

to work. I myself would never have chosen that.

Then there are surrounding things that will help support the person, such as

good diet, supplements, and even other infusion drips as in Vit. C and other

great additions that the IPT doctors will use. At least my doctor in

Oceanside used a LOT of additional things, including homeopathics, vitamins,

etc.

And of course, attitude and good energy towards your treatment of choice.

I hope this has been helpful. I think if you are considering IPT and/or any

other therapy the most important is to hear a few stories, but that is not

the end of it....I strongly believe that you must tune into which method

Resonates with You!

What feels right in your gut and your senses and body/mind, for this will be

the right path calling out to you.

So good luck wherever you decide to turn.

In health,

Carol

Happy New Year to All and Good Health Along Your Path!

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> I'd like to hear some sucess stories re: IPT therapy and does insurance at

least cover the ingredients

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> Thanks

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> Greg Follicular Lymphoma Type B of the Small Bowel

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