Some Facts Re: CC/FO vs PCa

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Hello ,

Of course, you may choose any opinion you wish regarding the Budwig

Protocol. In the FlaxseedOil2 group we try only to offer information

about Dr. Budwig's work and the results that our members have

experienced. I want to respond to a some of your statements.

In comparing Dr. " Snuffy " Myers credentials, there is no point in

using my name, the comparison is between Dr. Myers and Dr. Budwig who

had degrees in both chemestry and physics and discovered how to cure

cancer through nutrition. She also was the first to discover how to

differentiate saturated and unsaturated fats as well as break them

down into the essential fatty acids. Those are strong credentials and

accomplishments.

Secondly, Dr. Myers is talking about using flax oil alone, not

blended with quark or cottage cheese which makes the oil water

soluble allowing it to be digested and assimilated into the cells

where it can help to heal the cell membrane and oxygenate the

tissues. Those two processes can stop cancer and heal the cells. But

taking flax oil alone will not make that happen. It's only when the

oil is bonded with the sulfur protein components in quark or cottage

cheese that the oil assimilates well into the body. Dr. Budwig said

the same thing that Dr. Myers did, that the oil alone taken in the

large amounts needed to heal disease could be harmful. So, what Dr.

Myers said about flax oil does not undermine the Budwig Protocol.

Your comments about Cliff Beckwith are incorrect. Cliff was a very

honest man who told our flaxseedoil2 group everything that he was

doing. He didn't " sneak " off to take Lupron and not report it as you

state. He did take injections of lupron when he first learned that he

had terminal prostate cancer. When Cliff was diagnosed with terminal

prostate cancer at age 71, his urologist gave him 3 months to live.

Cliff lived in good health for 15 years beyond his terminal date to

age 85. My understanding is that 15 years is unusual for someone

diagnosed with terminal prostate cancer no matter what treatment they

try. The cancer returned when he began taking large amounts of

antioxidant supplements, something that Dr. Budwig said would

undermine the benefits of FOCC. Cliff didn't realize that at the time

that he began taking 30 tablets a day of ellagic acid.

Cliff explained in various messages that he took Lupron in the first

four years of his battle with cancer, but he lived 15 years to age 85.

Most of us will be fortunate to live to age 85 whether we have cancer

or not, that is well beyond the average life span in the US.

Here's what Cliff wrote in one of his many messages to the

FlaxseedOil2 group in 2006:

" I am now androgen independant, meaning that the hormone blockade

with Lupron or Zoladex no longer helps. That works on the average for

around 2 and 1/2 years. Sometimes it is much longer but sometimes

much less. It depends on the strains of PCa that are present.

I am already way ahead of the game as it were. With standard

treatment I would have been long dead. The FO/CC, even with many

mistakes on my part has been far more effective than anything else I

could have done. The number of men who were dxd with advanced PCa in

Feb of 1991 with a medium aggressive cancer and are still alive is

not a high percentage. "

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, regarding prostate cancer, the FlaxseedOil2 group has nine

testimonials in our files, not counting Cliff, from members who found

that when they began following the Budwig plan, they began to get

well even when they were told their situation was hopeless.

Below are two testimonials from Cisroll, a member of FlaxseedOil2,

who posted these messages to the group in 2006 and 2007 regarding his

experience with Prostate Cancer

Jul 20, 2006

" I had prostate cancer,[Gleason]was rated 8/10, biopsied, 12 samples.

The first doctor wanted to do " non-nerve sparring " surgery. The

second doctor wanted to do radiology and feed me testosterone-

destroying drugs. I refused both, went on Budwig, and, 90 days or so

later, took Bone Scan, CAT Scan and an MRI. All came back negative

for prostate cancer. It behooves all of us to learn for ourselves

how to naturally defeat diseases as in Budwig, without disabling side

effects. cicroll "

1/29/07--UPDATE:

" I am very well and continue to daily use the core of Budwig

Protocol, fso/cc, mixing with blue berries, blackberries, and

occasionally, fresh pineapple. Sometimes I even add

pinenuts or walnuts, making a delicious meal. Balance of diet is not

too restrictive, but organic...I avoid doctors, and have stopped

taking the HB pressure pills which I feel caused " MULTIPLE BI-LATERAL

RENAL CYSTS " , diagnosed during MRI's, both of which were negative for

prostate cancer. I feel to be in vibrant health with a Budwig-

regenerated prostate, and looking forward to my 70th birthday, in

March. I buy 16-oz fso by the dozens, to be able to recommend to and

help others. I plan to continue BP for the rest of my life. Thank you

for the brilliant work all of you do on this site. Cicroll "

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, you also questioned whether anyone with cancer that included

bone metastesis could be helped by using the Budwig plan. We have

had testimonials from various members whose cancer had spread into

their bones and who got well using the Budwig plan. In our FILES

section read the long list of testimonials sent by over a hundred

members. Here's a recent testimonial from a member who has posted

many times about her daughter's gradual jouney to health.

Jan. 12, 2008 - Annette, Jodee's daughter - Lymphoma & bone cancer

Annette's newest test shows even more improvement. Dr Suarez said even

some of the lesions on the bones are disappearing. She still has some

active cancer in the center of the bones but he said it is still

dying out. No lymph nodes are active. We are still doing the same

things, nothing different.

On Sept. 30, 2007, Jodee wrote: " Got the P.E.T. Infusion reports on

Annette...The tumors on her liver, in her chest, stomach, all gone.

Dead. Her bone cancer is still decreasing but also still there. Dr

Suarez said again " Not to stop whatever we are doing " , it is working.

He said he has never seen a patient with advanced cancer react like

this, from a diet. All of her blood work is normal. This is the first

time in 4 years that this has happened. I again thank Dr Budwig for

everything as well as everyone on this site. We have to keep our

faith up and it can happen. Remember M.D. . A cancer

hospital in Houston, Texas sent her home in April to die. To anyone,

keep doing the protocol. It works. "

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, I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else to try the Budwig

Protocol. But, I hope that my message clarifies a few things for you

and other readers.

john magal wrote:

>Definitely NO? Hold the horses, the jury is still out. Side with

Olsen against Snuffy Meyers? Are you aware of Dr Meyers

credentials?

> You dont have to go to flaxseedoil2 You will find

positive testimonials only from people who have been healed. However

I have yet to see a testimonial from someone with bone metastesis or

Gleason score 8 or higher. You have to understand that cancer is not

cancer and that the majority of prostate cancers are growing slowly

and can be contained by life style changes with cc/fo (or without

those)

> The same applies to the group moderated by Cliff Beckwith, who

saturated his readers with success stories of cc/fo versus cancer and

could not contain his own, sneaking to an onco to get a Lupron shot

now and then. Most of his readers did not know that and took his

stories for gospel, and to those who did know, he would they say,

yes, but a I attribute my longivity to cc/fo, not to Lupron.

Attribution, of course, is free. IMHO that was outright

irresponsible.

> Read the following two posts. The first is from Jim Howell, the

second from Gerry Logan. Both are activists and do not speak for

themselves but for dozens of patients they have observed around them.

> I somehow, who knows why, just wanted to say it again, I am not

against the Budwig protocol. I think it may have important health

advantages for some conditions. But if it has any benefits at all

specifically for prostate cancer, I have yet to see a demonstration

of that, though I've used it and been around others using it for many

long years. But I have read and heard quite a lot about it, a whole

lot of words.

> ...we will always have the for's and against groups, but I have for

a good number of years seen people question the use of FO/CC in

stopping PCa, or even seeing an improvement in the cancer they have,

and I have never seen anyone step forward and say hey... it helped

me. Now I won't disagree that it may help some people with some of

their health problems...

> Have your own opinion, take cc/fo, believe in it, whatever, but

please don't tell others peremptorily that it will help them.

> Health to you

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