Re: Gammill, What are you Taking Now?

[Guest guest]

Bee,

This cancer is so extremely aggressive that I am unable to make the

meds that I need in time for them to be useful. This includes

monoclonal antibodies, certain vaccines, and an affinity

chromatography device for removal of soluble receptors of TNF

alpha. The cancer has hammered me down like a pile driver. I have

lost over 25 lbs and have so much nausea, etc that I have been able

to take few of my own meds. Three weeks ago the surgeon wanted to do

an immediate pelvic exenteration. I have no tumor marker method of

monitoring squamous cell cancer so I have no way to steer my protocols.

I had to start on chemo and radiation just to stop the surgeon from

chopping me up. Bee, there is no worse combination than a lengthy

misdiagnosis, a stubborn medical insurer, and a super aggressive cancer.

I did get an apparent reduction at first, but the overall strategy

was inadequate. Immune therapies usually take about 3-4 months to

get real control, but this aggressive thing that I have could leave

me dead in a month.

I'll beat this thing, but it is going to be amazingly difficult. On

the bright side I think it will be a spectacular teaching case for the future.

At 07:51 AM 1/18/2010, you wrote:

>

>

>, what are you doing now that has resulted in a reduction of

>your tumor and your pain meds that is now successful, compared to

>the fact that your China trip was not? What are you taking...???

>

>God Bless

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I joined just about when you were away and have read some of your posts and

some things about you but do not really know who you are or what your

knowledge base is, although I know you are very knowledgable. So my

question to you is as follows. My husband was diagnosed (Aug.28,2009) with

NSCLC Adenocarcenoma in the right lung with no mets anywhere else except in

the Pleura. He has been following the Budwig Protocol about 90% as far as

the food is concerned (no sugar, no refined flour, no preserved or processed

foods, no animal products whatsoever except for the cottage cheese) but he

does not have the sun (takes Vitamin D) or do the enemas recommended. He

also drinks 4 shakes a day of a product called Cellect. In addition he

takes large doses of Curcumin, Mushroom Extractrs (Corolius PSP, ABM and

AHCC), Vitamin D 5,000 IU per day, and some other supplements. He is doing

well and his disease is stable, no spread from end August to end December.

Are there other recommendations you could make to get some faster results.

Since you seem to be knowledgable about most, if not all, of the alternative

treatments out there, I was wondering which one in particular you might

steer us to, for lung cancer.

Thanking you in advance,

Nili

[Guest guest]

, I am so sorry.  This just breaks my heart.  Please know that you are in

our prayers, and please keep us posted.  Jan

Bee,

This cancer is so extremely aggressive that I am unable to make the

meds that I need in time for them to be useful. This includes

monoclonal antibodies, certain vaccines, and an affinity

chromatography device for removal of soluble receptors of TNF

alpha. The cancer has hammered me down like a pile driver. I have

lost over 25 lbs and have so much nausea, etc that I have been able

to take few of my own meds. Three weeks ago the surgeon wanted to do

an immediate pelvic exenteration. I have no tumor marker method of

monitoring squamous cell cancer so I have no way to steer my protocols.

I had to start on chemo and radiation just to stop the surgeon from

chopping me up. Bee, there is no worse combination than a lengthy

misdiagnosis, a stubborn medical insurer, and a super aggressive cancer.

I did get an apparent reduction at first, but the overall strategy

was inadequate. Immune therapies usually take about 3-4 months to

get real control, but this aggressive thing that I have could leave

me dead in a month.

I'll beat this thing, but it is going to be amazingly difficult. On

the bright side I think it will be a spectacular teaching case for the future.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Since your cancer affects the digestive organs, that makes nutritional

protocols difficult to undertake, but not always impossible - depending

on individual circumstances. Just wondering whether this is an avenue

that you can / or have pursued?

I am sure you will beat this thing and yes, when you look back at it, it

will definitely be an excellent teaching case!

Kind regards,

Nick

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, VGammill wrote:

> Bee,

>

> This cancer is so extremely aggressive that I am unable to make the

> meds that I need in time for them to be useful. This includes

> monoclonal antibodies, certain vaccines, and an affinity

> chromatography device for removal of soluble receptors of TNF

> alpha. The cancer has hammered me down like a pile driver. I have

> lost over 25 lbs and have so much nausea, etc that I have been able

> to take few of my own meds. Three weeks ago the surgeon wanted to do

> an immediate pelvic exenteration. I have no tumor marker method of

> monitoring squamous cell cancer so I have no way to steer my protocols.

>

> I had to start on chemo and radiation just to stop the surgeon from

> chopping me up. Bee, there is no worse combination than a lengthy

> misdiagnosis, a stubborn medical insurer, and a super aggressive cancer.

>

> I did get an apparent reduction at first, but the overall strategy

> was inadequate. Immune therapies usually take about 3-4 months to

> get real control, but this aggressive thing that I have could leave

> me dead in a month.

>

> I'll beat this thing, but it is going to be amazingly difficult. On

> the bright side I think it will be a spectacular teaching case for the future.

>

>

>

> At 07:51 AM 1/18/2010, you wrote:

> >

> >

> >, what are you doing now that has resulted in a reduction of

> >your tumor and your pain meds that is now successful, compared to

> >the fact that your China trip was not? What are you taking...???

> >

> >God Bless

[Guest guest]

,

I'm so sorry this has happened to you.

Please do whatever you have to do in order to stay with us. You have given so

much to us, and to other cancer patients, I wish there was a way we could give

back to you.

ar

>

> Bee,

>

> This cancer is so extremely aggressive that I am unable to make the

> meds that I need in time for them to be useful. This includes

> monoclonal antibodies, certain vaccines, and an affinity

> chromatography device for removal of soluble receptors of TNF

> alpha. The cancer has hammered me down like a pile driver. I have

> lost over 25 lbs and have so much nausea, etc that I have been able

> to take few of my own meds. Three weeks ago the surgeon wanted to do

> an immediate pelvic exenteration. I have no tumor marker method of

> monitoring squamous cell cancer so I have no way to steer my protocols.

>

> I had to start on chemo and radiation just to stop the surgeon from

> chopping me up. Bee, there is no worse combination than a lengthy

> misdiagnosis, a stubborn medical insurer, and a super aggressive cancer.

>

> I did get an apparent reduction at first, but the overall strategy

> was inadequate. Immune therapies usually take about 3-4 months to

> get real control, but this aggressive thing that I have could leave

> me dead in a month.

>

> I'll beat this thing, but it is going to be amazingly difficult. On

> the bright side I think it will be a spectacular teaching case for the future.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Vince:

Your posts have always been instructional. I am sorry you are facing such an

ordeal but am hopeful for you. Once you're feeling somewhat better I would love

to know how you go about making monoclonal antibodies. Rituximab has been the

one positive in my chemo experience for lymphoma. Hang in there!

>

....This cancer is so extremely aggressive that I am unable to make the

> meds that I need in time for them to be useful. This includes

> monoclonal antibodies, certain vaccines, and an affinity

> chromatography device for removal of soluble receptors of TNF

> alpha...

[Guest guest]

WISH YOU SUCCES IN EVERY WAY SIR

VISHWAJITH

This cancer is so extremely aggressive that I am unable to make the

meds that I need in time for them to be useful.....

I had to start on chemo and radiation just to stop the surgeon from

chopping me up. Bee, there is no worse combination than a lengthy

misdiagnosis, a stubborn medical insurer, and a super aggressive cancer.

....Immune therapies usually take about 3-4 months to get real control, but this

aggressive thing that I have could leave me dead in a month.

I'll beat this thing, but it is going to be amazingly difficult. On

the bright side I think it will be a spectacular teaching case for the future.

[Guest guest]

Now will come some advice that you don't need, but you know, they are sincerely

offering what they can.

As a friend, a grateful and caring friend, you know full well I can't do a thing

except wait for good news from you.

The day does not pass that my thoughts do not gravitate to you. From a

selfish viewpoint, we need you!

If there's anything to thoughts reaching and helping, you've got mine.

Your friend,

Joe

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Joe said it so well, I just want to echo his words from the other side of this

small planet of ours.

Thinking of you daily, and sending you good energy and warm wishes for a swift

recovery,

Gubi

Re: [ ] Gammill, What are you Taking Now?

Now will come some advice that you don't need, but you know, they are

sincerely offering what they can.

As a friend, a grateful and caring friend, you know full well I can't do a

thing except wait for good news from you.

The day does not pass that my thoughts do not gravitate to you. From a selfish

viewpoint, we need you!

If there's anything to thoughts reaching and helping, you've got mine.

Your friend,

Joe

[Guest guest]

Jan,

Thanks for your kind thoughts. I have often noticed in our retreat

program how the participants tend to pull themselves up together and

get well as a group. I have received so much encouragement during

the last couple of months that I am now experiencing the same buoyancy.

At 02:00 PM 1/18/2010, you wrote:

>

>, I am so sorry. This just breaks my heart. Please know

>that you are in our prayers, and please keep us posted. Jan

>

>

>Bee,

>

>This cancer is so extremely aggressive that I am unable to make the

>meds that I need in time for them to be useful. This includes

>monoclonal antibodies, certain vaccines, and an affinity

>chromatography device for removal of soluble receptors of TNF

>alpha. The cancer has hammered me down like a pile driver. I have

>lost over 25 lbs and have so much nausea, etc that I have been able

>to take few of my own meds. Three weeks ago the surgeon wanted to do

>an immediate pelvic exenteration. I have no tumor marker method of

>monitoring squamous cell cancer so I have no way to steer my protocols.

>I had to start on chemo and radiation just to stop the surgeon from

>chopping me up. Bee, there is no worse combination than a lengthy

>misdiagnosis, a stubborn medical insurer, and a super aggressive cancer.

>I did get an apparent reduction at first, but the overall strategy

>was inadequate. Immune therapies usually take about 3-4 months to

>get real control, but this aggressive thing that I have could leave

>me dead in a month.

>I'll beat this thing, but it is going to be amazingly difficult. On

>the bright side I think it will be a spectacular teaching case for the future.

>

[Guest guest]

Nick, Nutritional protocols are very difficult for me because of the

nausea and the obstruction. I am trying though.

At 02:45 PM 1/18/2010, you wrote:

>

>Hi ,

>

>Since your cancer affects the digestive organs, that makes nutritional

>protocols difficult to undertake, but not always impossible - depending

>on individual circumstances. Just wondering whether this is an avenue

>that you can / or have pursued?

>

>I am sure you will beat this thing and yes, when you look back at it, it

>will definitely be an excellent teaching case!

>

>Kind regards,

>

>Nick

[Guest guest]

I have found in the pass Large dose of vitamin C or BIO C 6 grams a day and

restrict the sugar fruit and bread will give you the time you need Ray

[Guest guest]

,

 

Ron Amiron describes how he does his work:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual & VideoID=100631504

 

Ron is amazingly effective in my experience.  One explanation for how he can be

so effective is that he works with whole teams of healers on the Creation

Lightship. 

 

See more at http://www.creationlightship.com/

 

, it occurs to me that you have been giving and giving and giving on

CancerCured and you have possibly taken on a lot of cancer energy from people

you endeavored to help.  I am not suggesting that this was a mistake, but I

believe Ron Amitron of Creation Lightship can help you by removing these

energies from your system for the benefit of all, and allow you to heal yourself

and move on in higher perfection.

 

Alan Kreglow

[Guest guest]

Maybe you are doing this already but ginger in foods and ginger tea throughout

the day may help along with peppermint tea and other carminative herbs. Are you

on any certain diet?

My prayers are with you. KEEP UP!!

GB

> >

> >Hi ,

> >

> >Since your cancer affects the digestive organs, that makes nutritional

> >protocols difficult to undertake, but not always impossible - depending

> >on individual circumstances. Just wondering whether this is an avenue

> >that you can / or have pursued?

> >

> >I am sure you will beat this thing and yes, when you look back at it, it

> >will definitely be an excellent teaching case!

> >

> >Kind regards,

> >

> >Nick

>

[Guest guest]

Another possibility is eating papayas or mangos. They both have los of

digestive enzymes. Yellow foods are the best for digestion.

Keep Up

GB

>

> > >

> > >Hi ,

> > >

> > >Since your cancer affects the digestive organs, that makes nutritional

> > >protocols difficult to undertake, but not always impossible - depending

> > >on individual circumstances. Just wondering whether this is an avenue

> > >that you can / or have pursued?

> > >

> > >I am sure you will beat this thing and yes, when you look back at it, it

> > >will definitely be an excellent teaching case!

> > >

> > >Kind regards,

> > >

> > >Nick

> >

>

[Guest guest]

WILL YOU PEOPLE PLEASE LEAVE VINCENT GAMMILL ALONE!!!!! He knows a

thousand times more about treating cancer than you folks have ever dreamed of.

Your amateurish suggestions to him are both annoying and insulting.

shares his considerable expertise as a courtesy to all of us, and now that

he is seriously ill he does not need to be offended by your pitiful

recommendations of nutritional supplements like vitamin C, ginger tea, and

restricting sugar! Your prayers for are helpful, your armchair medical

advice is pathetic. Please don't add to his stress by infuriating him with

your presumptions that he is ignorant and unenlightened.

Marji

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Despite the view that you and most of us have of chemo and radiotherapy, I'm

sure they can " buy " you more than sufficient time to start/keep on

implementing your protocols to get completely cured and feeling well soon

enough.

Also, I understand that the most aggressive cancers are the ones that

usually respond best to chemo, possibly to radiation, too.

I know it is hard to think of how you will feel so much better with time

when you are feeling so terrible right now, but never forget it, this will

pass and you will gradually go back to feeling your usual self again. And as

much as we all appreciate your help and adivce, please just invest all your

time and effort on yourself. Take care!

Kasturbai

Barcelona, Spain

Caregiver to my mom who has adenocarcinoma of the lung

[Guest guest]

Hello Marji and list,

I greatly appreciate your concern as I do of everyone who has

written. I really don't mind in the least any and all

suggestions. Every single suggestion is well intended and I am sure

that most would work on some people in some circumstances. I feel

absolutely sure that there are many ways to beat every cancer. Some

of the suggestions can make great sense to add to my protocol. A

main problem has been the intractable nausea. This morning I threw

up while driving to radiation and again I threw up on the table.

I have learned much since getting cancer. Perhaps the biggest lesson

is that there is just no time in the day to deal with all that must

be dealt with. I am too sick to do lab work and too nauseated to

take all the natural meds that I know I need.

I think there is only one thing that really disgusts me and that is

the fact that I had no choice but the chemo and radiation. I truly

and deeply believe that radiation and chemo are much more harmful

that anyone on this list can imagine --- but I would rather deal with

the sequelae than with dying before I zero in on a better solution.

I can't always respond to everyone's e-mail. It is very difficult to

even sit up. I feel a little guilty about this, but I greatly

welcome e-mails of support. No man is an island and this is a main

chosen community for me. Long ago I noticed that members of a

supportive community do much better than those who just try to tough

it out in solitude.

I don't want to see the list cluttered with simple support notes, but

don't hesitate to send encouragement or a suggestion to

vgammill@... .

I feel extremely fortunate to have so many friends -- both on the

technical side and the lay side. Little things mean a lot to me

right now. I feel so much better when someone visits and just sits

next to me. It is hard to explain.

I love you all,

[Guest guest]

wow Maybe people are offering nothing more than what they have ..But I ma

absolutely sure that instead of feeling infuriated will be able to

appreciate that evryon e in this list has tried to let him know that he is

thought of, and that people truly care about him. From my communicatiosn

with in these recent weeks, i can truly say he feels touched and

cared for. .But people are merely trying to say Hi Vincet! we all

think about you and pray for you, and hope you heal quickly and here we are

thanking you for al lyou have given us and trying to give just a bit back! I

think is old enogh to ask people to leave him alone and so far he

hasn´t done so..

Coomfot and and support is what I

read all over the place. No sonder there are so many different ways of

reading and interpreting reality.

I hope people keep on being who they are,..that is all each one of us can

offer to and to anyone in a difficult moment

Lil

[Guest guest]

Ok, I understand and I apologize. is gentleman enough to forgive what I

thought was talking down to him... I realize he does respect the intent of the

people who offer suggestions, and he is appreciative of their caring enough to

do it. I was wrong, I over-reacted. We have read the complicated,

sophisticated, biochemical treatments has been working on for his

problem, and then someone comes along and asks if he had thought of vitamin C.

To me it was like asking Albert Einstein if he remembered to bring along his

abacus.

I am praying for too. I will try to accept these homey suggestions you

folks have in the spirit in which they are intended. I guess it' quite possible

someone could come up with something he hadn't thought of. At any rate, if the

suggestions going out into the Universe are positive, they might still have a

mystical effect that could help.

I guess, after all, I reacted badly because like the rest of you I feel so

frustrated and helpless to do anything for . At least you all are trying

to be constructive... I was just being a jerk. I'm sorry. , we love

you... stay strong.

Marji

[Guest guest]

Sometimes Albert Einstein needs to be reminded to bring his abacus

Big smiley.

I (being an aspie and mom of two aspies) know this all too well. I know there is

prolly nothing I could suggest that has not thought about so I have not

written.

I do send as much healing light as I have to offer and hope that it is enough.

Cheri

>

>

>

> Ok, I understand and I apologize. is gentleman enough to forgive what

I thought was talking down to him... I realize he does respect the intent of the

people who offer suggestions, and he is appreciative of their caring enough to

do it. I was wrong, I over-reacted. We have read the complicated,

sophisticated, biochemical treatments has been working on for his

problem, and then someone comes along and asks if he had thought of vitamin C.

To me it was like asking Albert Einstein if he remembered to bring along his

abacus.

>

> I am praying for too. I will try to accept these homey suggestions

you folks have in the spirit in which they are intended. I guess it' quite

possible someone could come up with something he hadn't thought of. At any

rate, if the suggestions going out into the Universe are positive, they might

still have a mystical effect that could help.

>

> I guess, after all, I reacted badly because like the rest of you I feel so

frustrated and helpless to do anything for . At least you all are trying

to be constructive... I was just being a jerk. I'm sorry. , we love

you... stay strong.

>

> Marji

>

[Guest guest]

Cheri,

If I were as smart as some of you think I am then I would not have

cancer. We are all in this together. Lately I have been thinking of

all the really bright cancer researchers whom I have known who have

died from cancer. I am methodically studying why. There was a time

when I foolishly thought that I was exempt.

Thanks for healing light and I too hope it is enough..!!

At 06:17 PM 1/20/2010, you wrote:

>

>

>Sometimes Albert Einstein needs to be reminded to bring his abacus

>

>Big smiley.

>

>I (being an aspie and mom of two aspies) know this all too well. I

>know there is prolly nothing I could suggest that has not

>thought about so I have not written.

>

>I do send as much healing light as I have to offer and hope that it

>is enough.

>

>Cheri

[Guest guest]

Hello :

I have hesitated for some time on whether to email you and mention my bout with

cancer in 2002 and many other illnesses. However, since I cannot get you out of

my brain, I believe the universe is trying to tell me to send you an email. I

have so much to tell; but under your condition, I will be short. In my own

experience,I believe cancer is a result of a fault within the body, mind and

spirit, one or all three.

I have read many emails in this group and they fear taking bloodroot internally;

I do not fear it, but I do my homework and respect mother natures medicine.

Bloodroot is mother natures chemo. After watching three dear friends die after

chemo and radiation, I walked away from my Western docs and their death sentence

for me and trusted mother nature. It was a long, hard journey--but I am alive

and in great health today. I did internal (stomach/intestines)and external

bloodroot (breast/head/neck/lymphs cancer). I am not a medical doctor; but, my

common sense tells me you might have a problem with bloodroot, if you have

blockage in your colon. You are a great scientist/doctor and I know your

knowledge will help guide you in this journey,overcome the road blocks and be

well.

I purchased my internal bloodroot from Larson Century Ranch, Inc. in Washington

state (509) 758-5445. Since the FDA has kidnapped Greg Caton of Alpha Omega

labs in Equador, I do not know if their bloodroot formula is available at this

time (altcancer.com).

Sending my awesome angels your way,

Pattie

> >

> >

> >Sometimes Albert Einstein needs to be reminded to bring

> his abacus

> >

> >Big smiley.

> >

> >I (being an aspie and mom of two aspies) know this all

> too well. I

> >know there is prolly nothing I could suggest that

> has not

> >thought about so I have not written.

> >

> >I do send as much healing light as I have to offer and

> hope that it

> >is enough.

> >

> >Cheri

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Don't mean to hijack away from vincent.

Pat what is the difference from that sold by tumor x? I just have plain

bloodroot. Nothing else added to the capsules.

Cheri

> > >

> > >

> > >Sometimes Albert Einstein needs to be reminded to bring

> > his abacus

> > >

> > >Big smiley.

> > >

> > >I (being an aspie and mom of two aspies) know this all

> > too well. I

> > >know there is prolly nothing I could suggest that

> > has not

> > >thought about so I have not written.

> > >

> > >I do send as much healing light as I have to offer and

> > hope that it

> > >is enough.

> > >

> > >Cheri

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Pattie,

I have plenty of bloodroot on hand. I think it is very useful in

cancer therapy because it hammers down glutathione in cancer

cells. Few people know this. I am glad you reminded me of this. I

might consider doing it after I finish the 5FU but I can't now

because bloodroot can be so hard on the gut. I usually use an

alcohol extract, start at the bottom and slowly increase the dose

until a constant thirst is achieved (the literature reads a

" tormenting thirst " ), and then I back off a bit. Maybe unconsciously

I did not want to consider bloodroot because of its very offensive taste.

Thanks for writing,

At 01:05 PM 1/22/2010, you wrote:

>

>

>Hello :

>

>I have hesitated for some time on whether to email you and mention

>my bout with cancer in 2002 and many other illnesses. However, since

>I cannot get you out of my brain, I believe the universe is trying

>to tell me to send you an email. I have so much to tell; but under

>your condition, I will be short. In my own experience,I believe

>cancer is a result of a fault within the body, mind and spirit, one

>or all three.

>

>I have read many emails in this group and they fear taking bloodroot

>internally; I do not fear it, but I do my homework and respect

>mother natures medicine. Bloodroot is mother natures chemo. After

>watching three dear friends die after chemo and radiation, I walked

>away from my Western docs and their death sentence for me and

>trusted mother nature. It was a long, hard journey--but I am alive

>and in great health today. I did internal (stomach/intestines)and

>external bloodroot (breast/head/neck/lymphs cancer). I am not a

>medical doctor; but, my common sense tells me you might have a

>problem with bloodroot, if you have blockage in your colon. You are

>a great scientist/doctor and I know your knowledge will help guide

>you in this journey,overcome the road blocks and be well.

>

>I purchased my internal bloodroot from Larson Century Ranch, Inc. in

>Washington state (509) 758-5445. Since the FDA has kidnapped Greg

>Caton of Alpha Omega labs in Equador, I do not know if their

>bloodroot formula is available at this time (altcancer.com).

>

>Sending my awesome angels your way,

>Pattie