Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Hi,Well my 4th flush was last night and I got out 100 or so stones ranging from smaller than pea size to 1 inch long and with odd shape,mostly the green stones.It was the most stones in one flush for me.I have a pre scheduled ultrasound tomorrow and will be interested to see the results.Im hoping he or she wont find any stones but either way I am going to pursue this without surgery if possible.The main things is keeping the attacks to a minimum or none.As this directly relates to food it takes great disipline and the knowledge of what to avoid and what to eat.A difficult maze for a greenhorn.But I think im on the right track right now.I just hope the gall bladder is not stretched to far as this is important.Ill post tomorrows results.Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Good luck with your ultrasound Jim!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,Well my 4th flush was last night and I got out 100 or so stones ranging from smaller than pea size to 1 inch long and with odd shape,mostly the green stones.It was the most stones in one flush for me.I have a pre scheduled ultrasound tomorrow and will be interested to see the results.Im hoping he or she wont find any stones but either way I am going to pursue this without surgery if possible.The main things is keeping the attacks to a minimum or none.As this directly relates to food it takes great disipline and the knowledge of what to avoid and what to eat.A difficult maze for a greenhorn.But I think im on the right track right now.I just hope the gall bladder is not stretched to far as this is important.Ill post tomorrows results.Jim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim; I just have to tell you that you sound like me a couple of years ago. I really had to buckle down to staying on track as to just what to eat and not to eat. So, I can appreciate just exactly what you're doing. I believe you're greenhorn statis is going to be moving over in a fairly short time as you learn more of just what is taking place with the foods that you do eat of which are good for you but none the less will cause a gallbladder attack like symptom. To my chagrin I had to avoid pecans, cabbage, and a few other things but by avoiding them I didn't have to deal with the fear of the real type of attack. They just made things feel like I was having an attack but as you know now an attack just doesn't stop in 15 minutes. Those are what I woulld call stimulation attacks and just don't have the same front to back and front again pain level. I keep wishing you the best in this endevor and for goodness sake don't get to the " Oh, well " . This is the most dangerous of attitudes for us with compromised systems. The " Oh, well " is simply a statement of realization that we're eating the forbiden fruit and the consequence we'll deal with later. The problem with this is that there may be a number of times where nothing happens and we get to thinking everything is back as it's suppose to be but the reality is that this eventually leads to just one more attack. It took me over a year after reading Dr. Cabot's information before things really started to come together for me while I was taking Essentail fatty acids in from all other sorts of foods and suppliments such as primrose, hemp, flaxseed, and olive oil to help the liver and in turn help my gallbladder heal. What you are doing now isn't easy, but for me it proved to be very satisfying. It's not a gauranttee that you will succeed but the fact that you have beeen able to pinpoint certain foods for causes of attacks certainly means a lot as to getting to the point where the liver and gallbladder are working together again. Dale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Hi Dale,im just back from ultrasound and everything looks normal overall inside,but still have small gall stones,I looked at the screen this time.The GB doesnt look deseased and appeared normal other than the stones.This is very important to me because it means I still have a chance to save it.I am doing the flax oils/oliive oil and others daily,along with lemon water and watching the foods I eat.I have eliminated a great deal from my diet.What is your experience with cottage cheese as relates to attacks,I have recently learned that the flax oils need other nutrients with it in order to assimilate it into our systems.and cottage cheese is a great aid in this?Also did you have ultrasounds along the way in which you found your gall stones gone after a period of time from doing the flushes??? Thanks Dale your help has been immense,I did get Dr Cabbots liver diet book.Jim > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Jim; > > I just have to tell you that you sound like me a couple of years ago. I really had to buckle down to staying on track as to just what to eat and not to eat. So, I can appreciate just exactly what you're doing. I believe you're greenhorn statis is going to be moving over in a fairly short time as you learn more of just what is taking place with the foods that you do eat of which are good for you but none the less will cause a gallbladder attack like symptom. To my chagrin I had to avoid pecans, cabbage, and a few other things but by avoiding them I didn't have to deal with the fear of the real type of attack. They just made things feel like I was having an attack but as you know now an attack just doesn't stop in 15 minutes. Those are what I woulld call stimulation attacks and just don't have the same front to back and front again pain level. > > I keep wishing you the best in this endevor and for goodness sake don't get to the " Oh, well " . This is the most dangerous of attitudes for us with compromised systems. The " Oh, well " is simply a statement of realization that we're eating the forbiden fruit and the consequence we'll deal with later. The problem with this is that there may be a number of times where nothing happens and we get to thinking everything is back as it's suppose to be but the reality is that this eventually leads to just one more attack. It took me over a year after reading Dr. Cabot's information before things really started to come together for me while I was taking Essentail fatty acids in from all other sorts of foods and suppliments such as primrose, hemp, flaxseed, and olive oil to help the liver and in turn help my gallbladder heal. > > What you are doing now isn't easy, but for me it proved to be very satisfying. It's not a gauranttee that you will succeed but the fact that you have beeen able to pinpoint certain foods for causes of attacks certainly means a lot as to getting to the point where the liver and gallbladder are working together again. > > Dale > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2002 Report Share Posted September 4, 2002 Dale I agree, While the gallbladder is healing many things can stimulate it into a soreness/attacklike episode. Once the gallbldder has healed, one can eat (in proper portions) many of the foods which nowmay seem too much of a problem to eat. Many foods which are good for gallbladder stimulation (for its proper function) can cause a sensative gallbladder to cramp up. These foods should be consumed on a regular basis once the gallbladder has healed. Suzanne >To my chagrin I had to avoid pecans, cabbage, and a few other things but by avoiding them I didn't have to deal with the fear of the real type of attack. They just made things feel like I was having an attack but as you know now an attack just doesn't stop in 15 minutes. Those are what I woulld call stimulation attacks and just don't have the same front to back and front again pain level. > > What you are doing now isn't easy, but for me it proved to be very satisfying. It's not a gauranttee that you will succeed but the fact that you have beeen able to pinpoint certain foods for causes of attacks certainly means a lot as to getting to the point where the liver and gallbladder are working together again. > > Dale > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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