Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Diet has to be combined with mega vitamins and supplements (including anti-oxidants and anti-inflamatories). it also must be combined with stress reductuion twechniques and we all must achieve and maintain inner peace and balance - peace of mind, peace of spirit and joy (raising one's vibrations). Happiness and health are vitally linked. For specific mind-body-spirit techniques to boost one's energy and immune system see my book The Road to Healing, Good Health and Wellness at amazon.com, kindle and barnes and noble.com. Also, you can get my book The Road to Happiness for free at www.theroad2happiness.com or the Facebook Page The Road to Happiness. This book contains specific techniques to achieve and maintain an inner state of happiness. Peace and Love, ________________________________ From: Lois Fischer Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 9:32:23 AM Subject: [ ] Wolcott's view (author of Metabolic Typing Diet) Wolcott's point of view is, " The immune system is highly dependent for its efficiency on the proper biochemical balance. Given the different genetically-based requirements for nutrition seen reflected in indigenous cultures all over the world, and given the clinical successes of metabolic typing over the past 25 years, it is not bard to understand that different people need different diets and different nutrient balances to optimise the immune system. " He goes on to say, " If vegetarianism is so key, how can it be that cancer in the Eskimo culture where they eat 10 pounds of meat a day, huge amounts of fat, and NO CARBOHYDRATE, cancer is so rare that they did not even have a word for it in their language?!! " What this debate highlights is that diet is a crucial area for anyone healing their cancer and they need to do their own research rather than rely on anecdotal information and received wisdom. Tiresome though it is, continuing to check out new or different information seems to be part of the package for those intent on recovery. Lois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 The topic of metabolic typing as it pertains to fighting cancer is one that gets me all fired up (in a good way). I've believed, since being diagnosed with lymphoma in 2005, that there was something to it. I've read everything there is on Dr. Kelley, Dr. (and the books he's written), Bill Wolcott (who worked for Kelley but fell out of favor with the eccentric dentist), and Dr. Harold Kristal (now deceased). Dr. Kristal's book in my mind is even better than Bill Wolcott's. http://bloodph.com/nutrition-solution.html Kristal talks about cancer somewhat in his book, whereas Wolcott seems to avoid the subject since he saw what the authorities did to Kelley when he used nutrition to beat cancer. Kristal combines Kelley and theory of parasympathetic and sympathetic dominance with Wolcott's wonderful addition of fast and slow oxidation. Kelley and both claim that people with blood and lymphatic cancers (lymphoma, leukemia, myeloma) need a protein/good fat diet, low in carbohydrates. Kristal briefly mentions it, but says he doesnt have enough evidence of that in his patients. When I first read the description of these type of people (protein/fat) in Kelley's book it fit me to a tee. In Kristal's book he talks about the invovled testing he did to determine a person's dominance and type. Both a parasympathetic dominant and a fast oxidizer require the same diet - protein and fats. He also discusses what minerals are approriate for each. Most people on this board would agree that Vitamin C is good for fighting cancer. For someone who is a protein/fat type, Ester C would be a good choice since it's combined with calcium (recommended by Kristal for protein/fat types). If a person is a carbohydrate person, ascorbic acid would be the right choice. I'll quit rambling now but finish with a sad note. Despite the thousands of people cured from cancer by Dr. Kelley, , Wolcott (?) and possibly Kristal, Dr. Harold Kristal passed away from lymphoma. That was very sad for me after I finished his book and went to his website, since I had believed that metabolic typing (and pancreatic enzymes) would be a potential cure for me. It wasnt until I read one of his last newsletters before he died, in which he addressed that question. He theorized that mercury could be a factor. He put mercury in people's mouths for 30 years and then spent another 20 pulling it out (all the time exposing himself to the vapors). He never dug to see if his body was loaded with mercury, nor did he do chelation. I've found mercury to be one of the top three factors in my lymphoma and have addressed it. So, not only does one need to find the correct diet for their metabolic type, but it would be prudent to also address heavy metals, particularly if you have a blood or lymphatic cancer. best of health, steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Yes, the mercury levels for people who are dentists is a factor in lymphoma, I have a dentist friend who had it and said he never protected himself. I am glad to have your insight and research and will look at Dr. Kristal. Thanks. Lois From: lmcs@... Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 22:36:56 +0000 Subject: [ ] Re: Wolcott's view (author of Metabolic Typing Diet) The topic of metabolic typing as it pertains to fighting cancer is one that gets me all fired up (in a good way). I've believed, since being diagnosed with lymphoma in 2005, that there was something to it. I've read everything there is on Dr. Kelley, Dr. (and the books he's written), Bill Wolcott (who worked for Kelley but fell out of favor with the eccentric dentist), and Dr. Harold Kristal (now deceased). Dr. Kristal's book in my mind is even better than Bill Wolcott's. http://bloodph.com/nutrition-solution.html Kristal talks about cancer somewhat in his book, whereas Wolcott seems to avoid the subject since he saw what the authorities did to Kelley when he used nutrition to beat cancer. Kristal combines Kelley and theory of parasympathetic and sympathetic dominance with Wolcott's wonderful addition of fast and slow oxidation. Kelley and both claim that people with blood and lymphatic cancers (lymphoma, leukemia, myeloma) need a protein/good fat diet, low in carbohydrates. Kristal briefly mentions it, but says he doesnt have enough evidence of that in his patients. When I first read the description of these type of people (protein/fat) in Kelley's book it fit me to a tee. In Kristal's book he talks about the invovled testing he did to determine a person's dominance and type. Both a parasympathetic dominant and a fast oxidizer require the same diet - protein and fats. He also discusses what minerals are approriate for each. Most people on this board would agree that Vitamin C is good for fighting cancer. For someone who is a protein/fat type, Ester C would be a good choice since it's combined with calcium (recommended by Kristal for protein/fat types). If a person is a carbohydrate person, ascorbic acid would be the right choice. I'll quit rambling now but finish with a sad note. Despite the thousands of people cured from cancer by Dr. Kelley, , Wolcott (?) and possibly Kristal, Dr. Harold Kristal passed away from lymphoma. That was very sad for me after I finished his book and went to his website, since I had believed that metabolic typing (and pancreatic enzymes) would be a potential cure for me. It wasnt until I read one of his last newsletters before he died, in which he addressed that question. He theorized that mercury could be a factor. He put mercury in people's mouths for 30 years and then spent another 20 pulling it out (all the time exposing himself to the vapors). He never dug to see if his body was loaded with mercury, nor did he do chelation. I've found mercury to be one of the top three factors in my lymphoma and have addressed it. So, not only does one need to find the correct diet for their metabolic type, but it would be prudent to also address heavy metals, particularly if you have a blood or lymphatic cancer. best of health, steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Hi Steve, I find your message interesting. You wrote that you were diagnosed with lymphoma in 2005 and you've been following a metabolic type diet which for you is protein/fat. Does that mean that you eat meats, eggs, chicken, etc.? And, what kinds of fats do you eat? Because you've been following this program since 2005, you must be free of cancer by now. Are you? Jan > > The topic of metabolic typing as it pertains to fighting cancer is one that gets me all fired up (in a good way). I've believed, since being diagnosed with lymphoma in 2005, that there was something to it. I've read everything there is on Dr. Kelley, Dr. (and the books he's written), Bill Wolcott (who worked for Kelley but fell out of favor with the eccentric dentist), and Dr. Harold Kristal (now deceased). Dr. Kristal's book in my mind is even better than Bill Wolcott's. > > http://bloodph.com/nutrition-solution.html > > Kristal talks about cancer somewhat in his book, whereas Wolcott seems to avoid the subject since he saw what the authorities did to Kelley when he used nutrition to beat cancer. Kristal combines Kelley and theory of parasympathetic and sympathetic dominance with Wolcott's wonderful addition of fast and slow oxidation. > > Kelley and both claim that people with blood and lymphatic cancers (lymphoma, leukemia, myeloma) need a protein/good fat diet, low in carbohydrates. Kristal briefly mentions it, but says he doesnt have enough evidence of that in his patients. When I first read the description of these type of people (protein/fat) in Kelley's book it fit me to a tee. > > In Kristal's book he talks about the invovled testing he did to determine a person's dominance and type. Both a parasympathetic dominant and a fast oxidizer require the same diet - protein and fats. He also discusses what minerals are approriate for each. Most people on this board would agree that Vitamin C is good for fighting cancer. For someone who is a protein/fat type, Ester C would be a good choice since it's combined with calcium (recommended by Kristal for protein/fat types). If a person is a carbohydrate person, ascorbic acid would be the right choice. > > I'll quit rambling now but finish with a sad note. Despite the thousands of people cured from cancer by Dr. Kelley, , Wolcott (?) and possibly Kristal, Dr. Harold Kristal passed away from lymphoma. That was very sad for me after I finished his book and went to his website, since I had believed that metabolic typing (and pancreatic enzymes) would be a potential cure for me. It wasnt until I read one of his last newsletters before he died, in which he addressed that question. He theorized that mercury could be a factor. He put mercury in people's mouths for 30 years and then spent another 20 pulling it out (all the time exposing himself to the vapors). He never dug to see if his body was loaded with mercury, nor did he do chelation. I've found mercury to be one of the top three factors in my lymphoma and have addressed it. So, not only does one need to find the correct diet for their metabolic type, but it would be prudent to also address heavy metals, particularly if you have a blood or lymphatic cancer. > > best of health, steve > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Hello Group I eat flax oil and cottage cheese in the AM per the Budwig protocol, along with many supplements, etc (including apricot kernels). And yes I have beef, chicken and turkey for lunch and dinner. Typically 3-4 ounces at each meal. Fish oil at lunch and dinner for good fats or avocado, etc. Eggs are good as well. In April 2005 at diagnosis, my percent cancerous cells were 68%. BY addressing mercury, Candida and eating according to my metabolic type, and taking a lot of pancreatic enzymes, last December the pathologist could not find any cancerous cells in my blood (0%). I still have a few enlarged lymph nodes so i wouldnt call myself cured, but i feel I'm on the right track. My Navarro is 52. best of health, steve > > > > The topic of metabolic typing as it pertains to fighting cancer is one that gets me all fired up (in a good way). I've believed, since being diagnosed with lymphoma in 2005, that there was something to it. I've read everything there is on Dr. Kelley, Dr. (and the books he's written), Bill Wolcott (who worked for Kelley but fell out of favor with the eccentric dentist), and Dr. Harold Kristal (now deceased). Dr. Kristal's book in my mind is even better than Bill Wolcott's. > > > > http://bloodph.com/nutrition-solution.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 I also have graphs (being an engineer) to show what a factor mercury was. Out of all the things I've addressed for my lymphoma, mercury and candida were/are the two biggest factors, nutrition/diet are number three. Flax oil and fish oil are way up there as well. best of health, steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I also believe that my heritage is part of why I am a protein type. I am of scandinavian culture, basically eskimos. My ancestors lived off of the fish oils and blubber. The growing season is quite short and vegetables are limited there as well. Kathy > > > Wolcott's point of view is, " The immune system is highly dependent > for its efficiency on the proper biochemical balance. Given the > different genetically-based requirements for nutrition seen reflected in > indigenous cultures all over the world, and given the clinical > successes of metabolic typing over the past 25 years, it is not bard to > understand that different people need different diets and different > nutrient balances to optimise the immune system. " He goes on to say, " If > vegetarianism is so key, how can it be that cancer in the Eskimo > culture where they eat 10 pounds of meat a day, huge amounts of fat, and > NO CARBOHYDRATE, cancer is so rare that they did not even have a word for it in their language?!! " > What this debate highlights is that diet is a crucial area > for anyone healing their cancer and they need to do their own research > rather than rely on anecdotal information and received wisdom. > Tiresome though it is, continuing to check out new or different > information seems to be part of the package for those intent on > recovery. > Lois > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Steve wrote: " Kelley and both claim that people with blood and lymphatic cancers (lymphoma, leukemia, myeloma) need a protein/good fat diet, low in carbohydrates. Kristal briefly mentions it, but says he doesnt have enough evidence of that in his patients. When I first read the description of these type of people (protein/fat) in Kelley's book it fit me to a tee. " > This is where my cancer really leaves me confused. They list the cancers that go in each group and mine isn't anywhere. I am a carcinoid cancer. Where does that go in the mix? Hey Lois, Can you ask Dr where carcinoid cancer fits in? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 " Steve Neander " <kat9hunter@...> wrote: > " Kelley and both claim that people with blood and lymphatic cancers > (lymphoma, leukemia, myeloma) and also melanoma and most sarcoma patients. These cancers (except for hard-tissue sarcomas) are the cancers that pancreatic enzymes are most effective with. >need a protein/good fat diet, low in > carbohydrates. Kathy wrote: >carcinoid cancer. Where does that go in the mix? As far as I know, all other cancer patients (including carcinoid, I believe) tend to be sympathetic dominant, but there are exceptions. To assess your metabolic type for free, http://products.mercola.com/nutritional-typing www.drkelley.info/articles/archive.php?artid=320 I believe the following offer more sophisticated metabolic typing for a fee: www.bloodpH.com (based on Harold Kristal's work) http://metabolictyping.com (Bill Wolcott) http://metaboliced.com (Dodie ) If in doubt,I would follow Kelley's " Type 4 " (moderately sympathetic-dominant-based [mostly vegetarian]) diet. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 Thank you Leonard. I liked the ease of Dr. Mercola's testing for metabolic type. He is a good guy. I like all of the info you have given us. Thanks again, Lois From: leonardleonard1@... Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 To assess your metabolic type for free, http://products.mercola.com/nutritional-typing www.drkelley.info/articles/archive.php?artid=320 I believe the following offer more sophisticated metabolic typing for a fee: www.bloodpH.com (based on Harold Kristal's work) http://metabolictyping.com (Bill Wolcott) http://metaboliced.com (Dodie ) If in doubt, I would follow Kelley's " Type 4 " (moderately sympathetic-dominant-based [mostly vegetarian]) diet. Leonard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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