Re: Dietary confusion... Not at all..

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If we are talking about the same research in england and I guess that you are

referring to :

Mortality in vegetarians and nonvegetarians: detailed findings from

a collaborative analysis of 5 prospective studies.

First Point : we have the " China Study " done on 850 millions Chineses ranging

from strict vegan to junk food eater with all the shade of nutritional habits.

This was the greatest research done in history and this was our last chance to

study differents types of alimentation. Chinese switching recently for our

" wonderful " way of life. It was found a difference from one to 10 000 number of

cancers from one county with a minimal intake of animal protein and cities like

Beijing where people eat more or less like us.

In fact the English research could be confusing at a first glance, contradicting

all the

previous research on the subject. Just to give you an esample : here an

epidemological study from 2006 : Descriptive epidemiology of colorectal cancer

I cites: " The purpose of this report is to present the descriptive epidemiology

of colorectal cancer using the most recent data available to highlight two

characteristics of the disease. First is the great variation which takes place

in the frequency of this disease over geographic areas of all sizes. Colorectal

cancer is common in most countries of North America and Europe, is rare in Asia

and is particularly uncommon in Africa. Internationally, the variation in colon

cancer is 60-fold, and within Europe there is a 4-fold difference. "

Second point: the authors of the study recognized that it is widely recommended

that people eat five portions of fruit and vegetables a day to reduce their risk

of cancer and other diseases and in fact they choose to get theirs result

" Meat eater " who where actualy doing that.

My question : how many meat-eaters that you know personaly eats five portions

of fruit and vegetables a day?

So they pick up some serious health conscious meat eater should we say ?

Third point : the so-called " meat eaters " that they choose as reference where

eating meat at least one time a week, but we don't know how many times more.

Also their were chosen in family or friends of vegetarians.

Fourth point : most of vegetarians in this study were vegetarian for less than

five years . Not much in my humble opinion for a serious study on cancer..

Fifth point : vegan where very few : the number of vegans was small only about

700 on 76 172

men and women. Are we serious ?

Sixth point : by including a reasonable and consequent number of vegans the

outcome of this study would had been completely different.

Seventh point : 60 % of vegetarians eats and drinks dairies so can't expect to

have a different fate than meat-eater. Defrauded by the medias and big food ,

they are great consumers of genetically modified corn and soya and others

vegetarians junk food as contaminated and as irradiated as the regular junk

food. Most of vegetarian eats like the general population less the meat. As the

researcher put it : Western vegetarians..

Nothing to be really confused about. when they will comes up with a study

showing that they can turn on the proliferation of cancer cells with organic

veggies instead of using animal protein ; then I will be concern.

Also, I could not find any disclosure of competing interest of the researchers

in this paper. About the leading researcher : J Key, that the one who

recommend for breast cancer prevention :

More radical measures including surgery, such as bilateral prophylactic

oophorectomy and/or mastectomy, or chemoprophylaxis may be considered

for particularly susceptible subgroups, such as those with a family

history of breast cancer or characteristics predisposing them to

exposure to high oestrogen levels.

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> I would suspect that too many 'vegetarians' really do not eat well and but

simply avoid meat.

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> We have the soy burgers and every other 'fake' meat-like food that one buys in

the local supermarket. This is highly processed food that probably should not

be called food.

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> Avoiding meat does not always mean one eats well.

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> Joe C.

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