Re: Naturopaths in Norway Oslo .Prostate cancer patient

[Guest guest]

Jane

I would go for colonic irrigation with ozone to detox the body and I'd

find a way to get make me some hemp oil!

Watch Rick Simpson's run from the cure. Of course, no need to tell

you to give him a full spectrum of bio-available vitamins and minerals

to build the immune system. I've managed to stay alive for two years

now doing this except I have not been able to get any hemp oil yet.

On Apr 5, 2011, at 8:15 PM, Jane wrote:

> My dad is Prostate cancer patient in stage IV (bone mets), psa 100

> and having

> pains in his hands and legs. A month back started his chemo but

> did'nt help. He

> is in Norway Oslo. Looking for visiting a naturopathy clinic near by

> which

> treats prostate cancer patients. Any suggestions/links/experiences

> shared would

> be helpful.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jane I know how he feels I have prostrate bone mets to. its  in my ribs and

lower back. once my psa was climbing up. around  3 points  ever time I was

tested.  but Im find now, free of cancer pain, All  because of a naturopath

called Debby. She taught me about how hormone dependent cancer realy works.  and

the best way to fight it is not to fight it and to help  my immune system fight

it all I had to do was change my diet go off Sugary foods  milk and bread but

this wont do it alone I use isoflavones found in red clover and soy milk I also 

enzymes that helps desolve the protine shild around my cancer  I also have

vegetables like broccoli cabbage and asparagus. If you dont mine me asking who

put him on chemo dont they know it useless on prostrate cancer.  its be cause

chemo only can only poison rapidly dividing cells and because bone has a low

blood supply so getting enough chemo into the bone  to kill the cancer is a

real

problem it the same with radiation to put enough radiation into the bone to

kill

the cancer would kill probably him to.  but the main problem with prostrate

cancer and chemo is that adinocanimoma is a slow growing cancer and chemo only

work on rapitly deiding cells  so it has litttle effect on it.  if the

naturopath any thing like my naturopath was he should do realy well all the best

ray  

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[Guest guest]

What brands of things do you take.

Thanks,

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From: Randall Crossley

Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011

.....I use isoflavones found in red clover and soy milk I also enzymes that

helps desolve the protine shild around my cancer I also have

vegetables like broccoli cabbage and asparagus.....

ray

[Guest guest]

Ben Ong in the UK. PSA lowering capsule.

Dave

On 4/5/2011 6:15 PM, Jane wrote:

> Hi,

>

> My dad is Prostate cancer patient in stage IV (bone mets), psa 100 and having

> pains in his hands and legs. A month back started his chemo but did'nt help.

He

> is in Norway Oslo. Looking for visiting a naturopathy clinic near by which

> treats prostate cancer patients. Any suggestions/links/experiences shared

would

> be helpful.

>

> thanks

> Jane

>

[Guest guest]

Many thanks for all the replies. The dietary information is very helpful. My dad

is a diabetic too and vegetarian also. His cancer is termed as Hormone

refractory prostate cancer and his hormone therapy failed after 6 years. That's

why he was given radiation initially nearby the prostate/lymph nodes area,

however after 2 months it still metastasized to his bones when he was given

chemo treatment and that left him weak currently. Last 3 to 4 months have'nt

given any hope to our family, thus thought of alternatives.Do not know much

about it at all, still learning and understanding in depth about his cancer

condition at this stage. Reading some books too and this groups post have been

very helpful till now. Thanks to all as its provides a ray of hope.

I was going through the old posts and understand that Germany has roots in

naturopathy. Has anyone experienced with any of the German clinics with prostate

cancer treatment, please do share the name/contact nos. Appreciate a lot.

I live in California (SFO) and wanted to know if there is any such

clinics/naturopath doctors here or near by which i can visit and find out about

treatment, then bring my dad here for treatment (he can travel in his present

conditions however feeling weak after chemo already). Please share the

experiences.

thanks once again.

Jane

[Guest guest]

I dont know if youve checked into flaxseed oil 2 group. Some people have had

good luck.

Thanks, Robyn

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From: Jane <janethomas0181@...>

Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 1:03:52 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Naturopaths in Norway Oslo .Prostate cancer patient

Many thanks for all the replies. The dietary information is very helpful. My dad

is a diabetic too and vegetarian also. His cancer is termed as Hormone

refractory prostate cancer and his hormone therapy failed after 6 years. That's

why he was given radiation initially nearby the prostate/lymph nodes area,

however after 2 months it still metastasized to his bones when he was given

chemo treatment and that left him weak currently. Last 3 to 4 months have'nt

given any hope to our family, thus thought of alternatives.Do not know much

about it at all, still learning and understanding in depth about his cancer

condition at this stage. Reading some books too and this groups post have been

very helpful till now. Thanks to all as its provides a ray of hope.

I was going through the old posts and understand that Germany has roots in

naturopathy. Has anyone experienced with any of the German clinics with prostate

cancer treatment, please do share the name/contact nos. Appreciate a lot.

I live in California (SFO) and wanted to know if there is any such

clinics/naturopath doctors here or near by which i can visit and find out about

treatment, then bring my dad here for treatment (he can travel in his present

conditions however feeling weak after chemo already). Please share the

experiences.

thanks once again.

Jane

[Guest guest]

I spent 3 weeks in the Fachklinic in furt, Germany and I wouldn't

recommend it to anyone. My PSA has continued upwards and is now 203. Everything

they did seemed half hearted. More interested in your money. Coffee, sugar

and salt on the tables at breakfast, bacon, sausages, cold meats, cakes,

desserts. They believe that diet does not play any part in the treatment of

cancer. Stay away. I would be more inclined to investigate the clinics in

Tijuana, and they are nearer to you. They appear to have had some success. I

will email a copy of a book I have on these clinics to your private email

address. I really like the look of the Sanoviv clinic there and would be

interested to know if anyone has had any experience at this clinic.

Good luck to your father.

[Guest guest]

Jane: Check out Johanna Budwig and her regimen using Flaxseed Oil and

complete change of diet. There is a big group of people who have great faith in

this program. E-mail is Flaxseed _Oil2@_ (mailto:Oil2@)

groups.com

Best, Ray

[Guest guest]

Jane lucky you I cant aford to do any thing like that now but I wish I could

afford what I was doing in 2008 but I got pretty sick with advance prostrate

cancer bone mets  but Im find now  Im also now  retied.  but it funny how

when

we get sick and were not able to work for the money  the Bess treatment for

cancer is the cheapest   I find  the no sugary food  no bread diet and lots

of

veggies and soy milk every day been working fine for me  (Soy milk has

isoflavones in it they mimics testosterone taking it place on the prostrate

cancer receptor thous blocking it and stopping the cancer getting testosterone )

never felf bettter Ray  

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From: Jane <janethomas0181@...>

Sent: Thu, 7 April, 2011 5:03:52 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Naturopaths in Norway Oslo .Prostate cancer patient

 

Many thanks for all the replies. The dietary information is very helpful. My dad

is a diabetic too and vegetarian also. His cancer is termed as Hormone

refractory prostate cancer and his hormone therapy failed after 6 years. That's

why he was given radiation initially nearby the prostate/lymph nodes area,

however after 2 months it still metastasized to his bones when he was given

chemo treatment and that left him weak currently. Last 3 to 4 months have'nt

given any hope to our family, thus thought of alternatives.Do not know much

about it at all, still learning and understanding in depth about his cancer

condition at this stage. Reading some books too and this groups post have been

very helpful till now. Thanks to all as its provides a ray of hope.

I was going through the old posts and understand that Germany has roots in

naturopathy. Has anyone experienced with any of the German clinics with prostate

cancer treatment, please do share the name/contact nos. Appreciate a lot.

I live in California (SFO) and wanted to know if there is any such

clinics/naturopath doctors here or near by which i can visit and find out about

treatment, then bring my dad here for treatment (he can travel in his present

conditions however feeling weak after chemo already). Please share the

experiences.

thanks once again.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I would be interested in a copy of the book you mention too. If it's not

too much trouble, please send me a copy of it as well.

Kind regards,

Nick

On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, robertpwr@... wrote:

> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 16:49:11 -0400 (EDT)

> From: robertpwr@...

> Reply-

>

> Subject: Re: [ ] Naturopaths in Norway Oslo .Prostate cancer patient

>

> I spent 3 weeks in the Fachklinic in furt, Germany and I wouldn't

> recommend it to anyone. My PSA has continued upwards and is now 203.

Everything

> they did seemed half hearted. More interested in your money. Coffee, sugar

> and salt on the tables at breakfast, bacon, sausages, cold meats, cakes,

> desserts. They believe that diet does not play any part in the treatment of

> cancer. Stay away. I would be more inclined to investigate the clinics in

> Tijuana, and they are nearer to you. They appear to have had some success. I

> will email a copy of a book I have on these clinics to your private email

> address. I really like the look of the Sanoviv clinic there and would be

> interested to know if anyone has had any experience at this clinic.

>

> Good luck to your father.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi jane I see why chemo is  useless on prostrate cancer as it only works on

rapidly dividing cell prostrate cancer is slow growing  cancer. Jane  before

you

go to the naturopathy clinic can you  ask your dad to try this. first thing

very important see if he can  get  pomegranate extract , if not he can  go on

 to the net order it.

For brackfast I have porridge with soy milk (but you can put it on any thing

that has no sugar in it ) . F or lunch I just have salads. And  for diner  I

have a limited  meat  intake.  but I have it with lots of vegetable

like cabbage

brussel sprouts these are very good at helping the imune system fight cancer I

also have  lots of soy milk, ( as it has isoflavones in it ) I have it in my

cups of coffee though the day. I  snack  on  hazell nuts wall nuts, these tase

awfull but good at fighting cancer also I go on to  high dose of  vitamin d and

vit C. On this in three weeks he PSA will drop and he will feel better  Ray

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[Guest guest]

I think some kind of broke down soy powder is better. Maybe called fermented.

_

[Guest guest]

I would try Natural-oncology.org. They have a clinic in San Diego .

Ray, fyi, soy is poison, do some research only consume in fermented form.

Blessings, Vicki

Randall Crossley wrote:

>>

> ...I find the no sugary food no bread diet and lots of veggies and soy milk

every day been working fine for me (Soy milk has

> isoflavones in it they mimics testosterone taking it place on the prostrate

cancer receptor thous blocking it and stopping the cancer getting testosterone

never felt better, ray  

>

>