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I've been on LDN for 8 months and it hasn't changed my need for

thyroid. It doesn't happen for everybody, or maybe it will still happen

for me or you.

Yes, definitely can use iodine for candida if on armour. Very

compatible. Lack of iodine causes thyroid problems. However, iodine is

off topic for this list and so we need to stop this discussion ehre, so I

would encourage you to join the Iodine discussion group here on to

ask more questions.

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>, can you use Iodine for Candida if you are on Armour Thyroid? So

>far the LDN has not lowered my need for thyroid, though I have only been

>on it 9 weeks!

>

>Thanks

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

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i have been on ldn for 5mo. and have not needed to lower my arnourOn Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Baker <vbaker@...> wrote:

 

I've been on LDN for 8 months and it hasn't changed my need for

thyroid. It doesn't happen for everybody, or maybe it will still happen

for me or you.

Yes, definitely can use iodine for candida if on armour. Very

compatible. Lack of iodine causes thyroid problems. However, iodine is

off topic for this list and so we need to stop this discussion ehre, so I

would encourage you to join the Iodine discussion group here on to

ask more questions.

--

>, can you use Iodine for Candida if you are on Armour Thyroid? So

>far the LDN has not lowered my need for thyroid, though I have only been

>on it 9 weeks!

>

>Thanks

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

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There is no easy answer to your question. The main function of iodine is to

kick up thyroid in those who are thyroid deficient -- most Americans don't

get enough thyroid. Too much can decrease thyroid function. Its use

depends on your overall strategy. It can be useful as part of an ATP

decoupling strategy which can be one of the better choices if a person has

had chemotherapy. The second time Manju Ray from India visited our cancer

retreat in California she wanted to hear my seminar on ATP decoupling. I

think she wanted to add to her strategy of inhibiting the glycolytic pathway

AND the electron transport chain.

I am a little surprised that ATP decoupling with its many therapeutic

synergisms is not more popular with the alternative crowd, but people seem

to balk at learning new concepts even if it means that their chance of

survival is significantly reduced.

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Behalf Of robyn howell

Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:23 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] The thinning of the herd

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How does iodine help, what doses? What brand?

Thanks, Robyn

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Explain ATP, I have no clue what this means.

Vic

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From: Gammill <vgammill@...>

Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011

 

There is no easy answer to your question. The main function of iodine is to

kick up thyroid in those who are thyroid deficient -- most Americans don't

get enough thyroid. Too much can decrease thyroid function. Its use

depends on your overall strategy. It can be useful as part of an ATP

decoupling strategy which can be one of the better choices if a person has

had chemotherapy. The second time Manju Ray from India visited our cancer

retreat in California she wanted to hear my seminar on ATP decoupling. I

think she wanted to add to her strategy of inhibiting the glycolytic pathway

AND the electron transport chain.

I am a little surprised that ATP decoupling with its many therapeutic

synergisms is not more popular with the alternative crowd, but people seem

to balk at learning new concepts even if it means that their chance of

survival is significantly reduced.

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Adenosine triphosphate

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of Victor Swiercz

Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:19 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Iodine

Explain ATP, I have no clue what this means.

Vic

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From: Gammill <vgammill@...

<mailto:vgammill%40roadrunner.com> >

Sent: Tue, February 1, 2011

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There is no easy answer to your question. The main function of iodine is to

kick up thyroid in those who are thyroid deficient -- most Americans don't

get enough thyroid. Too much can decrease thyroid function. Its use

depends on your overall strategy. It can be useful as part of an ATP

decoupling strategy which can be one of the better choices if a person has

had chemotherapy. The second time Manju Ray from India visited our cancer

retreat in California she wanted to hear my seminar on ATP decoupling. I

think she wanted to add to her strategy of inhibiting the glycolytic pathway

AND the electron transport chain.

I am a little surprised that ATP decoupling with its many therapeutic

synergisms is not more popular with the alternative crowd, but people seem

to balk at learning new concepts even if it means that their chance of

survival is significantly reduced.

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My notes on iodine:

promotes apoptosis; strongly associated w/spontaneous remissions

" For breast patients, iodine...desensitizes the estrogen receptors, alters the

chemical pathways, as well effects on the genes, resulting in less cell growth,

and causing anti-tumor

effect by causing apoptosis (programmed cell death) of malignant cells "

http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodine.html

Iodine’s beneficial for the vast majority of cancer patients (also for

fibroids and BC prevention). " Neuroblastoma cells were the most responsive to

iodine. Glioblastoma cell lines also responded to iodine [H. Rosner et al.,

2009]....cannabis has helped glioblastoma. The medical doctors at the clinical

cannabis conference were very excited about this. The researcher to google is

Guzman " Lynne Farrow <lynne@...>, 6/11/10

breastcancerthinktank/message/4390

“Bone mets are usually the result of a combination of factors such as lack of

tissue iodine which allows the cells to spread to the basement membrane,

especially if they've been given chemo or radiation†Carolyn Bormann, ND, 7/05

In some people, iodine triggers their body to release (detox) bromide, causing

symptoms such as canker sores; in that case, eat sea salt to help body eliminate

the bromide (for more info, www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodine).

“one of the most impressive studies [Vega-Riveroll et al., The antineoplasic

effect of molecular iodine on human mammary cancer involves the activation of

apoptotic pathways and the inhibition of angiogenesis] shows that iodine

increased…apoptosis…slowed down cell division and lessened blood vessel

growth to the area when given between biopsy and lumpectomy†Lynne Farrow

<lynne@...>, 6/11/10

“Dr. Eskin (a conservative MD who has done iodine research for 50 years) has

said [in 2007 that] his research indicates iodine is equivalent to Armimidex or

Tamoxifen†Lynne Farrow, 1/24/11

Dosage and brands:

“Dr. , Dr. Derry, and many others now recommend iodine at

[high] doses…along with thyroid hormone†(Carolyn Bormann, ND, 9/05); dose

must be individualized, so consult physician

The best brand I know of is Lugol's solution (iodine & potassium iodide; can be

purchased in Mexico; I’ve seen 100mg recommended, but I’d consult

w/physician 1st); 50mg chelates metals; “Dr. Flechas…said…breast cancer

[patients] should take 100mg./day [of Lugol’s

solution]….www.drbrownstein.comâ€. Gammill uses Lugol’s.

Check w/doctor before taking it if you have heart problems.

For more info, www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodine

www.DrBrownstein.com ( Brownstein)

http://breasthealthproject.com/PreventBreastCancerwithIodineDrHaskell.html

Dr. Derry's book (excellent)

Lugol’s as a deodorant: “since I've been painting under my arm pits with

Lugol's - I don't seem to have underarm odor. I also use some coconut oilâ€

breastcancerthinktank/message/5720

Leonard

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Many of us take both (myself included) with no problems.  Get Iodoral instead if you do not like the taste.

 

Jaxi

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:10 PM, joyce <jamkaye@...> wrote:

Is there any interaction with iodine and ldn? I really dislike the taste of lugols iodine 5% that my dr, gave me. I am taking ldn 1.5 mg in the AM. I sleep much better at night that way! My circadium rythm is mixed up anyway. I have alot more energy on LDN. joyce

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