Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 From Medscape News Author: Nick Mulcahy January 13, 2010 –– In a finding that was unexpected, consumption of eggs and chicken with skin might increase the risk for disease progression in men with localized prostate cancer. The research, published online December 30 in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, is only the second-ever study of post diagnosis diet in men with prostate cancer. The researchers hypothesized that red meat, with its high saturated-fat content, would increase the risk for prostate cancer progression and that poultry and eggs would not. However, in a prospective study of 1294 men with prostate cancer, post diagnostic consumption of eggs and poultry with skin were each associated with 2-fold increases in risk for prostate cancer progression. Red meat had no effect on progression. Our results are entirely novel. " Our results are entirely novel and it will be important to examine these dietary factors in future studies " said lead author Richman, MS, from the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston, Massachusetts. So should clinicians tell men with prostate cancer to forgo scrambled egg breakfasts and chicken wings at dinner? More research is needed before translating these results into clinical practice. Ms. Richman stopped short of advising as much. " More research is needed before translating these results into clinical practice, " she told Medscape Oncology. But Ms. Richman, who is a doctoral candidate in both epidemiology and nutrition, expressed another concern: " It is important to note that cancer survivors are at increased risk of heart disease and diabetes and limiting consumption of poultry with skin is consistent with current guidelines for reducing heart disease risk. " There are plausible scientific explanations for the effect of both eggs and poultry with skin on prostate cancer progression, write the study authors. Heterocyclic amines, which are mutagens that can be present at much higher concentrations in well-done poultry than in other meats, induce prostate adenocarcinomas in rats and have been shown to covalently bind and damage DNA in cultured human prostate tissue, they write. Also, eggs help determine the level of an individual's plasma choline, which is a marker associated with a greater risk of prostate cancer developing in men. Research into diet and cancer postdiagnosis needs more support, suggested Ms. Richman. " I was surprised so little research has been done on postdiagnostic diet and risk of prostate cancer progression, considering the growing number of men living with prostate cancer in the United States and around the world, " she said. Study Details The study comprised men participating in the Cancer of the Prostate Strategic Urologic Research Endeavor (CaPSURE) and the data come from a substudy on diet and lifestyle. The 1294 men who had localized prostate cancer but no recurrence or progression at the start of the study in 2004/05 were followed for an average of 2 years. During follow-up, there were 127 events (ranging from death to biochemical recurrence). Intakes of processed and unprocessed red meat, fish, total poultry, and skinless poultry were not associated with prostate cancer recurrence or progression, write the authors. However, greater consumption of eggs and poultry with skin was associated with 2-fold increases in risk. Specifically, in a comparison of the groups of men who ate, on average, less than 1 serving or none of these foods weekly and those who averaged about 5 servings a week, the greater consumption of eggs produced a hazard ratio (HR) of 2.02 (95% confidence interval [CI], 1.10 - 3.72; P for trend = .05), and greater consumption of poultry with skin had an HR of 2.26 (95% CI, 1.36 - 3.76; P for trend = .003). Because men who eat poultry with skin tend to have diets that are high in saturated fat, the investigators performed a further analysis to ensure that this factor, which was hypothesized to be troublesome, was not at play. Among men with the same total saturated-fat consumption, the researchers compared those who consumed approximately 3 servings a week of poultry with skin with those who consumed 0 servings a week. " Since all the men consumed the same amount of saturated fat, a higher intake of saturated fat could not explain the increased risk we observed among the men who consumed more poultry with skin, " explained Ms. Richman. This insight led to the theory that the above mentioned heterocyclic amines might affect the risk for progression. The Other Postdiagnosis Study Other studies have looked at diet and the development of prostate cancer and found that processed or cured meats are more strongly associated with an increased risk for advanced prostate cancer than for total prostate cancer. With regard to eating eggs and poultry and the risk of developing prostate cancer, the " results have been largely inconclusive, " write the authors. The only other research into diet and disease progression among men who already have prostate cancer was conducted by this same group of researchers. Using data from the Health Professionals Follow-Up Study, they found a decreased risk for prostate cancer progression associated with high postdiagnostic fish and tomato sauce intake. Both fish and tomato sauce are low in saturated fat, leading the researchers to their hypotheses about saturated fat affecting the progression of prostate cancer. This study was supported by the Department of Defense and the Prostate Cancer Foundation. The CaPSURE study was originally funded by TAP Pharmaceutical Products. The authors have disclosed no relevant financial relationships. Am J Clin Nutr. Published online December 30, 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 reading this news article by Nick Mulcahy I am remined of the articles in Dr Ross book The Cell Factor and the research Dr Budwig Did in the 1950 into oils and it efect on cancer In Nick Mulcahy articles The researchers hypothesized that red meat, with its high saturated-fat content, would increase the risk for prostate cancer progression and that poultry and eggs would not but articles dos not go into much depth as to why Chicken and saturated fats are Bad for us. I can only suppose the sex hormones in the Chicken has some thing to do with it, and prostate cancer is sex hormone dependent Dr Ross book he talks about the damage that saturated fats do to the cells in our body Dr Budwig talks about how Omega 3 fatty acids can help repair Cells Damage by fatty acids I have read There is another way beside fish to get omega 3 Omega 3 fatty acids, can repair the damage cause by commercially processed fats and oils. Dr Budwig research has shown the tremendous effects that commercially processed fats and oils have in destroying cell membranes and lowering the voltage in the cells of our bodies, which then result in chronic and terminal disease. but it a bit more then that. Dr Ross wrote in his book, that commercially processed fats, and oil molecules, are smaller then normal fat molecule and omega 3 fatty acids. Now our normal cells. don't know one lot of fat molecule. from any other lot of fats, so when a fat molecule comes along, the cell use it to repair it damage outer membrane now because commercially processed fats and oil molecules, are smaller, nutrients have a hard time getting though them, When this happens the cell start to starve. But one way the cell can fix this, is to make it self bigger so it has more area so it can get mote nutrients in . The problem is, to do this, the cell has to change the cell codes in it nucleus the one that tell it when to die when to divide when it dos this, as it dos divides the two cells can easily become cancer cells, having omega 3 once a day, the cell can use the omega 3 fatty acids to replace the trans fatty acids in it outer membrane Dr Budwig mix of one table spoon of flack seed oil and two table spoons of cottage cheese to every pound of body weight has help so Meany people she said to just on it for three months how it works is the cottage cheese , which is rich in sulfur protein, has a chemical reaction with the flack seed oil the reaction that is produced makes the oil water soluble and easily absorbed into the cell membrane. cheers Ray From: VGammill Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:11 PM Subject: [ ] Rare Study of Diet and Prostate Cancer Progression From Medscape News Author: Nick Mulcahy January 13, 2010 -- In a finding that was unexpected, consumption of eggs and chicken with skin might increase the risk for disease progression in men with localized prostate cancer. The research, published online December 30 in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, is only the second-ever study of post diagnosis diet in men with prostate cancer. The researchers hypothesized that red meat, with its high saturated-fat content, would increase the risk for prostate cancer progression and that poultry and eggs would not. However, in a prospective study of 1294 men with prostate cancer, post diagnostic consumption of eggs and poultry with skin were each associated with 2-fold increases in risk for prostate cancer progression. Red meat had no effect on progression. Our results are entirely novel. " Our results are entirely novel and it will be important to examine these dietary factors in future studies " said lead author Richman, MS, from the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston, Massachusetts. So should clinicians tell men with prostate cancer to forgo scrambled egg breakfasts and chicken wings at dinner? More research is needed before translating these results into clinical practice. Ms. Richman stopped short of advising as much. " More research is needed before translating these results into clinical practice, " she told Medscape Oncology. But Ms. Richman, who is a doctoral candidate in both epidemiology and nutrition, expressed another concern: " It is important to note that cancer survivors are at increased risk of heart disease and diabetes and limiting consumption of poultry with skin is consistent with current guidelines for reducing heart disease risk. " There are plausible scientific explanations for the effect of both eggs and poultry with skin on prostate cancer progression, write the study authors. Heterocyclic amines, which are mutagens that can be present at much higher concentrations in well-done poultry than in other meats, induce prostate adenocarcinomas in rats and have been shown to covalently bind and damage DNA in cultured human prostate tissue, they write. Also, eggs help determine the level of an individual's plasma choline, which is a marker associated with a greater risk of prostate cancer developing in men. Research into diet and cancer postdiagnosis needs more support, suggested Ms. Richman. " I was surprised so little research has been done on postdiagnostic diet and risk of prostate cancer progression, considering the growing number of men living with prostate cancer in the United States and around the world, " she said. Study Details The study comprised men participating in the Cancer of the Prostate Strategic Urologic Research Endeavor (CaPSURE) and the data come from a substudy on diet and lifestyle. The 1294 men who had localized prostate cancer but no recurrence or progression at the start of the study in 2004/05 were followed for an average of 2 years. During follow-up, there were 127 events (ranging from death to biochemical recurrence). Intakes of processed and unprocessed red meat, fish, total poultry, and skinless poultry were not associated with prostate cancer recurrence or progression, write the authors. However, greater consumption of eggs and poultry with skin was associated with 2-fold increases in risk. Specifically, in a comparison of the groups of men who ate, on average, less than 1 serving or none of these foods weekly and those who averaged about 5 servings a week, the greater consumption of eggs produced a hazard ratio (HR) of 2.02 (95% confidence interval [CI], 1.10 - 3.72; P for trend = .05), and greater consumption of poultry with skin had an HR of 2.26 (95% CI, 1.36 - 3.76; P for trend = .003). Because men who eat poultry with skin tend to have diets that are high in saturated fat, the investigators performed a further analysis to ensure that this factor, which was hypothesized to be troublesome, was not at play. Among men with the same total saturated-fat consumption, the researchers compared those who consumed approximately 3 servings a week of poultry with skin with those who consumed 0 servings a week. " Since all the men consumed the same amount of saturated fat, a higher intake of saturated fat could not explain the increased risk we observed among the men who consumed more poultry with skin, " explained Ms. Richman. This insight led to the theory that the above mentioned heterocyclic amines might affect the risk for progression. The Other Postdiagnosis Study Other studies have looked at diet and the development of prostate cancer and found that processed or cured meats are more strongly associated with an increased risk for advanced prostate cancer than for total prostate cancer. With regard to eating eggs and poultry and the risk of developing prostate cancer, the " results have been largely inconclusive, " write the authors. The only other research into diet and disease progression among men who already have prostate cancer was conducted by this same group of researchers. Using data from the Health Professionals Follow-Up Study, they found a decreased risk for prostate cancer progression associated with high postdiagnostic fish and tomato sauce intake. Both fish and tomato sauce are low in saturated fat, leading the researchers to their hypotheses about saturated fat affecting the progression of prostate cancer. This study was supported by the Department of Defense and the Prostate Cancer Foundation. The CaPSURE study was originally funded by TAP Pharmaceutical Products. The authors have disclosed no relevant financial relationships. Am J Clin Nutr. Published online December 30, 2009. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Ray, please clarify what you mean by one tablespoon of flax seed oil with 2 tablespoon of cottage cheese to every pound of body weight. If I am 110 pounds, how many tablespoons do I need every day? Thanks. Jim In a message dated 1/25/2010 11:14:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rjcrossley@... writes: reading this news article by Nick Mulcahy I am remined of the articles in Dr Ross book The Cell Factor and the research Dr Budwig Did in the 1950 into oils and it efect on cancer In Nick Mulcahy articles The researchers hypothesized that red meat, with its high saturated-fat content, would increase the risk for prostate cancer progression and that poultry and eggs would not but articles dos not go into much depth as to why Chicken and saturated fats are Bad for us. I can only suppose the sex hormones in the Chicken has some thing to do with it, and prostate cancer is sex hormone dependent Dr Ross book he talks about the damage that saturated fats do to the cells in our body Dr Budwig talks about how Omega 3 fatty acids can help repair Cells Damage by fatty acids I have read There is another way beside fish to get omega 3 Omega 3 fatty acids, can repair the damage cause by commercially processed fats and oils. Dr Budwig research has shown the tremendous effects that commercially processed fats and oils have in destroying cell membranes and lowering the voltage in the cells of our bodies, which then result in chronic and terminal disease. but it a bit more then that. Dr Ross wrote in his book, that commercially processed fats, and oil molecules, are smaller then normal fat molecule and omega 3 fatty acids. Now our normal cells. don't know one lot of fat molecule. from any other lot of fats, so when a fat molecule comes along, the cell use it to repair it damage outer membrane now because commercially processed fats and oil molecules, are smaller, nutrients have a hard time getting though them, When this happens the cell start to starve. But one way the cell can fix this, is to make it self bigger so it has more area so it can get mote nutrients in .. The problem is, to do this, the cell has to change the cell codes in it nucleus the one that tell it when to die when to divide when it dos this, as it dos divides the two cells can easily become cancer cells, having omega 3 once a day, the cell can use the omega 3 fatty acids to replace the trans fatty acids in it outer membrane Dr Budwig mix of one table spoon of flack seed oil and two table spoons of cottage cheese to every pound of body weight has help so Meany people she said to just on it for three months how it works is the cottage cheese , which is rich in sulfur protein, has a chemical reaction with the flack seed oil the reaction that is produced makes the oil water soluble and easily absorbed into the cell membrane. cheers Ray From: VGammill Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:11 PM _ @ @can_ (mailto: ) Subject: [ ] Rare Study of Diet and Prostate Cancer Progression From Medscape News Author: Nick Mulcahy January 13, 2010 -- In a finding that was unexpected, consumption of eggs and chicken with skin might increase the risk for disease progression in men with localized prostate cancer. The research, published online December 30 in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, is only the second-ever study of post diagnosis diet in men with prostate cancer. The researchers hypothesized that red meat, with its high saturated-fat content, would increase the risk for prostate cancer progression and that poultry and eggs would not. However, in a prospective study of 1294 men with prostate cancer, post diagnostic consumption of eggs and poultry with skin were each associated with 2-fold increases in risk for prostate cancer progression. Red meat had no effect on progression. Our results are entirely novel. " Our results are entirely novel and it will be important to examine these dietary factors in future studies " said lead author Richman, MS, from the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston, Massachusetts. So should clinicians tell men with prostate cancer to forgo scrambled egg breakfasts and chicken wings at dinner? More research is needed before translating these results into clinical practice. Ms. Richman stopped short of advising as much. " More research is needed before translating these results into clinical practice, " she told Medscape Oncology. But Ms. Richman, who is a doctoral candidate in both epidemiology and nutrition, expressed another concern: " It is important to note that cancer survivors are at increased risk of heart disease and diabetes and limiting consumption of poultry with skin is consistent with current guidelines for reducing heart disease risk. " There are plausible scientific explanations for the effect of both eggs and poultry with skin on prostate cancer progression, write the study authors. Heterocyclic amines, which are mutagens that can be present at much higher concentrations in well-done poultry than in other meats, induce prostate adenocarcinomas in rats and have been shown to covalently bind and damage DNA in cultured human prostate tissue, they write. Also, eggs help determine the level of an individual's plasma choline, which is a marker associated with a greater risk of prostate cancer developing in men. Research into diet and cancer postdiagnosis needs more support, suggested Ms. Richman. " I was surprised so little research has been done on postdiagnostic diet and risk of prostate cancer progression, considering the growing number of men living with prostate cancer in the United States and around the world, " she said. Study Details The study comprised men participating in the Cancer of the Prostate Strategic Urologic Research Endeavor (CaPSURE) and the data come from a substudy on diet and lifestyle. The 1294 men who had localized prostate cancer but no recurrence or progression at the start of the study in 2004/05 were followed for an average of 2 years. During follow-up, there were 127 events (ranging from death to biochemical recurrence). Intakes of processed and unprocessed red meat, fish, total poultry, and skinless poultry were not associated with prostate cancer recurrence or progression, write the authors. However, greater consumption of eggs and poultry with skin was associated with 2-fold increases in risk. Specifically, in a comparison of the groups of men who ate, on average, less than 1 serving or none of these foods weekly and those who averaged about 5 servings a week, the greater consumption of eggs produced a hazard ratio (HR) of 2.02 (95% confidence interval [CI], 1.10 - 3.72; P for trend = .05), and greater consumption of poultry with skin had an HR of 2.26 (95% CI, 1.36 - 3.76; P for trend = .003). Because men who eat poultry with skin tend to have diets that are high in saturated fat, the investigators performed a further analysis to ensure that this factor, which was hypothesized to be troublesome, was not at play. Among men with the same total saturated-fat consumption, the researchers compared those who consumed approximately 3 servings a week of poultry with skin with those who consumed 0 servings a week. " Since all the men consumed the same amount of saturated fat, a higher intake of saturated fat could not explain the increased risk we observed among the men who consumed more poultry with skin, " explained Ms. Richman. This insight led to the theory that the above mentioned heterocyclic amines might affect the risk for progression. The Other Postdiagnosis Study Other studies have looked at diet and the development of prostate cancer and found that processed or cured meats are more strongly associated with an increased risk for advanced prostate cancer than for total prostate cancer. With regard to eating eggs and poultry and the risk of developing prostate cancer, the " results have been largely inconclusive,have been largely The only other research into diet and disease progression among men who already have prostate cancer was conducted by this same group of researchers. Using data from the Health Professionals Follow-Up Study, they found a decreased risk for prostate cancer progression associated with high postdiagnostic fish and tomato sauce intake. Both fish and tomato sauce are low in saturated fat, leading the researchers to their hypotheses about saturated fat affecting the progression of prostate cancer. This study was supported by the Department of Defense and the Prostate Cancer Foundation. The CaPSURE study was originally funded by TAP Pharmaceutical Products. The authors have disclosed no relevant financial relationships. Am J Clin Nutr. Published online December 30, 2009. 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Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Just curious, why is the dept. of defense spending money on this research? It makes me wary of this research... > > reading this news article by Nick Mulcahy I am remined of the articles in Dr Ross book The Cell Factor and the research Dr Budwig Did in the 1950 into oils and it efect on cancer In Nick Mulcahy articles The researchers hypothesized that red meat, with its high saturated-fat content, would increase the risk for prostate cancer progression and that poultry and eggs would not but articles dos not go into much depth as to why Chicken and saturated fats are Bad for us. I can only suppose the sex hormones in the Chicken has some thing to do with it, and prostate cancer is sex hormone dependent > > Dr Ross book he talks about the damage that saturated fats do to the cells in our body Dr Budwig talks about how Omega 3 fatty acids can help repair Cells Damage by fatty acids I have read There is another way beside fish to get omega 3 Omega 3 fatty acids, can repair the damage cause by commercially processed fats and oils. Dr Budwig research has shown the tremendous effects that commercially processed fats and oils have in destroying cell membranes and lowering the voltage in the cells of our bodies, which then result in chronic and terminal disease. but it a bit more then that. > > Dr Ross wrote in his book, that commercially processed fats, and oil molecules, are smaller then normal fat molecule and omega 3 fatty acids. Now our normal cells. don't know one lot of fat molecule. from any other lot of fats, so when a fat molecule comes along, the cell use it to repair it damage outer membrane now because commercially processed fats and oil molecules, are smaller, nutrients have a hard time getting though them, When this happens the cell start to starve. But one way the cell can fix this, is to make it self bigger so it has more area so it can get mote nutrients in . The problem is, to do this, the cell has to change the cell codes in it nucleus the one that tell it when to die when to divide when it dos this, as it dos divides the two cells can easily become cancer cells, having omega 3 once a day, the cell can use the omega 3 fatty acids to replace the trans fatty acids in it outer membrane > > Dr Budwig mix of one table spoon of flack seed oil and two table spoons of cottage cheese to every pound of body weight has help so Meany people she said to just on it for three months how it works is the cottage cheese , which is rich in sulfur protein, has a chemical reaction with the flack seed oil the reaction that is produced makes the oil water soluble and easily absorbed into the cell membrane. cheers Ray > > > From: VGammill > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:11 PM > > Subject: [ ] Rare Study of Diet and Prostate Cancer Progression > > > > From Medscape > News Author: Nick Mulcahy > > January 13, 2010 -- In a finding that was > unexpected, consumption of eggs and chicken with > skin might increase the risk for disease > progression in men with localized prostate cancer. > > The research, published online December 30 in the > American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, is only > the second-ever study of post diagnosis diet in men with prostate cancer. > > The researchers hypothesized that red meat, with > its high saturated-fat content, would increase > the risk for prostate cancer progression and that poultry and eggs would not. > > However, in a prospective study of 1294 men with > prostate cancer, post diagnostic consumption of > eggs and poultry with skin were each associated > with 2-fold increases in risk for prostate cancer > progression. Red meat had no effect on progression. > > Our results are entirely novel. > > " Our results are entirely novel and it will be > important to examine these dietary factors in > future studies " said lead author Richman, > MS, from the Harvard School of Public Health in Boston, Massachusetts. > > So should clinicians tell men with prostate > cancer to forgo scrambled egg breakfasts and chicken wings at dinner? > > More research is needed before translating these > results into clinical practice. > > Ms. Richman stopped short of advising as much. > " More research is needed before translating these > results into clinical practice, " she told Medscape Oncology. > > But Ms. Richman, who is a doctoral candidate in > both epidemiology and nutrition, expressed > another concern: " It is important to note that > cancer survivors are at increased risk of heart > disease and diabetes and limiting consumption of > poultry with skin is consistent with current > guidelines for reducing heart disease risk. " > > There are plausible scientific explanations for > the effect of both eggs and poultry with skin on > prostate cancer progression, write the study authors. > > Heterocyclic amines, which are mutagens that can > be present at much higher concentrations in > well-done poultry than in other meats, induce > prostate adenocarcinomas in rats and have been > shown to covalently bind and damage DNA in > cultured human prostate tissue, they write. Also, > eggs help determine the level of an individual's > plasma choline, which is a marker associated with > a greater risk of prostate cancer developing in men. > > Research into diet and cancer postdiagnosis needs > more support, suggested Ms. Richman. > > " I was surprised so little research has been done > on postdiagnostic diet and risk of prostate > cancer progression, considering the growing > number of men living with prostate cancer in the > United States and around the world, " she said. > > Study Details > > The study comprised men participating in the > Cancer of the Prostate Strategic Urologic > Research Endeavor (CaPSURE) and the data come > from a substudy on diet and lifestyle. > > The 1294 men who had localized prostate cancer > but no recurrence or progression at the start of > the study in 2004/05 were followed for an average > of 2 years. During follow-up, there were 127 > events (ranging from death to biochemical recurrence). > > Intakes of processed and unprocessed red meat, > fish, total poultry, and skinless poultry were > not associated with prostate cancer recurrence or > progression, write the authors. > > However, greater consumption of eggs and poultry > with skin was associated with 2-fold increases in risk. > > Specifically, in a comparison of the groups of > men who ate, on average, less than 1 serving or > none of these foods weekly and those who averaged > about 5 servings a week, the greater consumption > of eggs produced a hazard ratio (HR) of 2.02 (95% > confidence interval [CI], 1.10 - 3.72; P for > trend = .05), and greater consumption of poultry > with skin had an HR of 2.26 (95% CI, 1.36 - 3.76; P for trend = .003). > > Because men who eat poultry with skin tend to > have diets that are high in saturated fat, the > investigators performed a further analysis to > ensure that this factor, which was hypothesized > to be troublesome, was not at play. > > Among men with the same total saturated-fat > consumption, the researchers compared those who > consumed approximately 3 servings a week of > poultry with skin with those who consumed 0 servings a week. > > " Since all the men consumed the same amount of > saturated fat, a higher intake of saturated fat > could not explain the increased risk we observed > among the men who consumed more poultry with skin, " explained Ms. Richman. > > This insight led to the theory that the above > mentioned heterocyclic amines might affect the risk for progression. > > The Other Postdiagnosis Study > > Other studies have looked at diet and the > development of prostate cancer and found that > processed or cured meats are more strongly > associated with an increased risk for advanced > prostate cancer than for total prostate cancer. > > With regard to eating eggs and poultry and the > risk of developing prostate cancer, the " results > have been largely inconclusive, " write the authors. > > The only other research into diet and disease > progression among men who already have prostate > cancer was conducted by this same group of researchers. > > Using data from the Health Professionals > Follow-Up Study, they found a decreased risk for > prostate cancer progression associated with high > postdiagnostic fish and tomato sauce intake. Both > fish and tomato sauce are low in saturated fat, > leading the researchers to their hypotheses about > saturated fat affecting the progression of prostate cancer. > > This study was supported by the Department of > Defense and the Prostate Cancer Foundation. The > CaPSURE study was originally funded by TAP > Pharmaceutical Products. The authors have > disclosed no relevant financial relationships. > > Am J Clin Nutr. Published online December 30, 2009. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I support research as well, always of course, in the hopes that it is sincere. Typically one uses the word " support " in that form. In this case it does not say the Defense Department supported the research with money. Keep in mind the amount of men in the military. As in all 'research' findings, it is just that, 'findings' that may or may not mean a darned thing. Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 , Dept of Defense medical studies are among the few sources that can be trusted. It tends to be less skewed than studies funded by corporations or by corporate-funded academia. The DOD is not in this for the money. I prefer the DOD to NCI funded studies that never seem to lead anywhere. At 08:26 PM 1/27/2010, you wrote: > >Just curious, why is the dept. of defense spending money on this >research? It makes me wary of this research... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Thanks for that info . Was also thinking what hens were fed, they usually get feed mix with gmo corn and gmo soy, and maybe soon gmo alfalfa. Even some organic eggs are from hens fed with above mix. Very rare are farmers/vendors that only feed organic feed mix to their hens. I know of only one here in Austin area who feeds lets his chicken roam around and are fed no gmo feed mix and the egg is truly delicious and tastes great! Even the color of the yolk is nicer. We used to be able to buy from them directly, but not anymoe due to the volume of orders from big supermarkets. Hubby who had non-cancerous (no blood supply) prostate tumors (which are now gone), ate eggs during weekends and sometimes on weekdays too. But we ate the real organic eggs, and he was not affected by it. Those in the Austin area who want to know where to get the eggs can shop at Whole Foods and Wheatsville in Lamarr. You want to know the name of the supplier? Email me privately as snoops might clamp on them. > > > >Just curious, why is the dept. of defense spending money on this > >research? It makes me wary of this research... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Animal protein : more than 6% of daily intake activates cancer cell proliferation. See Colin , " The China Study. " This has been clearly demonstrated for a while. So when I see people like Ty Bollinger, Dr Mercola and now Mike recommending milk to cancer patients, that makes me scream !! " jcr " <rjcrossley@...> wrote: > > reading this news article by Nick Mulcahy I am remined of the articles in Dr Ross book The Cell Factor and the research Dr Budwig Did in the 1950 into oils and it efect on cancer In Nick Mulcahy articles The researchers hypothesized that red meat, with its high saturated-fat content, would increase the risk for prostate cancer progression and that poultry and eggs would not but articles dos not go into much depth as to why Chicken and saturated fats are Bad for us. I can only suppose the sex hormones in the Chicken has some thing to do with it, and prostate cancer is sex hormone dependent.... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Goat milk? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2010, at 8:50 AM, " shaman_urban " <shaman_urban@...> wrote: Animal protein : more than 6% of daily intake activates cancer cell proliferation. See Colin , " The China Study. " This has been clearly demonstrated for a while. So when I see people like Ty Bollinger, Dr Mercola and now Mike recommending milk to cancer patients, that makes me scream !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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