cancer diets for diabetics

[Guest guest]

Garth & Kim <gartht@...> wrote:

>how do people with an impaired glucose tolerance handle these diets?

DIET & SUPPLEMENT GUIDELINES FOR CANCER PATIENTS w/DIABETES

Best Foods to Eat

raw (above-ground) VEGETABLES (eat skin if organic [org.])-- CELERY; AVOCADO,

olive, GARLIC, ONION/LEEK; bok choy; (non-alfalfa) SPROUTS; SEAWEED, non-iceberg

lettuce. May cook (steam) LEAFY GREENS (spinach, parsley, KALE, WATERCRESS,

dandelion, mustard & turnip greens), CRUCIFEROUS vegs. (especially BRUSSELS

SPROUTS & CABBAGE), turnip, ASPARAGUS, SHIITAKE/MAITAKE, ARTICHOKE.

SALAD w/Bragg.com dressing or olive oil, red-wine vinegar & LEMON juice

Beans/Legumes†" lentils; SPROUTED beans; TEMPEH

Fruit (before exercise)†" org. berries (cherry, raspberry, goji, cranberry,

blueberry, strawberry); grapefruit, lemon/lime, ripe tomato, green APPLE, peach

Grains--buckwheat, oats, BARLEY & rye; oat & rice bran; SPROUTED Ezekiel bread

Seeds (raw/sprouted)--especially pumpkin & ground flax

Nuts†" raw pine, walnut, coconut, ALMOND

Seafood†" wild/deep-sea Iceland/Pacific/Alaskan SALMON, sardine, herring

Meat--organic/grass-fed/naturally-grown poultry

Dairy†" RAW/grass-fed/org. yogurt & kefir

Oil--For high-temp cooking, COCONUT or palm. For low-temp, olive’s ok.

Beverages--purified water (8 glasses); herbal & GREEN TEA

Sweeteners†" Stevia, lo-han, or other no-calorie natural sweetener from health

food store (www.doctormurray.com/newsletter/2-3-2004.htm), or a little RAW honey

Spices†" cayenne, garlic, turmeric

SUPPLEMENTS: BITTER MELON, fiber, cayenne, turmeric/curcumin, dandelion,

Essiac/Flor-Essence, pycnogenol, SHIITAKE, MAITAKE, bilberry, goji, Noni,

ginger, ginseng, eleuthero, PAU D’ARCO, MILK THISTLE; ALOE juice (2 tsp before

meals)/Aloe Boost by AloeLife.com; SELENIUM; vits. A, B3 (inositol

hexaniacinate), C, D3, E (w/mixed tocopherols), K, QUERCETIN, flavanoids;

probiotics; digestive enzymes, serrapeptase; CLA; hemp seed, black currant (GLA)

& FISH/COD LIVER oils; limu/Limuplex (WaleWellness.com), spirulina, alfalfa,

GREEN foods; whey, brewer’s yeast, rice bran.

“Metformin…kills cancer stem cells†( Gammill, ScD,

www.natural-oncology.org)

For dosages, www.doctormurray.com/Qarchive/diabetics.htm

Misc: heavy metal DETOX, dental detox, EXERCISE, oxygenating products. For

appetite control, EFT (www.eftuniverse.com). Floss teeth daily; brush teeth

after every meal.

Foods to AVOID

Carbohydrates--NEVER eat large amount at single meal. Eat small meals.

High-Carb & High-Glycemic Foods (NEVER eat them on empty stomach).

REFINED GRAINS (dough/flour, pastries, pasta), rice (except wild rice), CORN,

nonsprouted BREAD & WHEAT

Fruits--dried fruit, DATES; bananas, oranges, sweet & tropical fruit

Animal products†" red meat, pork, nonorganic animal products; pasteurized

milk/dairy

Fats/Oils--HYDROGENATED OILS, OMEGA 6 (canola, cottonseed, soy, corn,

safflower, sunflower), animal fat. Use ONLY coconut, palm & olive oil.

Misc.--SUGAR, CORN SYRUP, aspartame/artificial sweeteners; table salt; MSG;

SODA, ALCOHOL, JUICE; chocolate; FRIED, processed, refined, & other junk food;

potatoes (except sweet potato); iron

Type 1 Diabetes-- DETOX. Eat RAW foods; take DIGESTIVE ENZYMES &

www.SERRAPEPTASE.info/cond_diabetes.htm on empty stomach.

Leonard

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

Thank you, that is what I eat now. This is good news.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

936-395-0110

On 3/10/2011 12:48 PM, Leonard wrote:

> Garth & Kim <gartht@...> wrote:

> >how do people with an impaired glucose tolerance handle these diets?

>

> DIET & SUPPLEMENT GUIDELINES FOR CANCER PATIENTS w/DIABETES

>

> Best Foods to Eat

>

> raw (above-ground) VEGETABLES (eat skin if organic [org.])-- CELERY;

> AVOCADO, olive, GARLIC, ONION/LEEK; bok choy; (non-alfalfa) SPROUTS;

> SEAWEED, non-iceberg lettuce. May cook (steam) LEAFY GREENS (spinach,

> parsley, KALE, WATERCRESS, dandelion, mustard & turnip greens),

> CRUCIFEROUS vegs. (especially BRUSSELS SPROUTS & CABBAGE), turnip,

> ASPARAGUS, SHIITAKE/MAITAKE, ARTICHOKE.

> SALAD w/Bragg.com dressing or olive oil, red-wine vinegar & LEMON juice

> Beans/Legumes†" lentils; SPROUTED beans; TEMPEH

> Fruit (before exercise)†" org. berries (cherry, raspberry, goji,

> cranberry, blueberry, strawberry); grapefruit, lemon/lime, ripe tomato,

> green APPLE, peach

> Grains--buckwheat, oats, BARLEY & rye; oat & rice bran; SPROUTED Ezekiel

> bread

> Seeds (raw/sprouted)--especially pumpkin & ground flax

> Nuts†" raw pine, walnut, coconut, ALMOND

> Seafood†" wild/deep-sea Iceland/Pacific/Alaskan SALMON, sardine, herring

> Meat--organic/grass-fed/naturally-grown poultry

> Dairy†" RAW/grass-fed/org. yogurt & kefir

> Oil--For high-temp cooking, COCONUT or palm. For low-temp, olive’s ok.

> Beverages--purified water (8 glasses); herbal & GREEN TEA

> Sweeteners†" Stevia, lo-han, or other no-calorie natural sweetener from

> health food store (www.doctormurray.com/newsletter/2-3-2004.htm), or a

> little RAW honey

> Spices†" cayenne, garlic, turmeric

>

> SUPPLEMENTS: BITTER MELON, fiber, cayenne, turmeric/curcumin, dandelion,

> Essiac/Flor-Essence, pycnogenol, SHIITAKE, MAITAKE, bilberry, goji,

> Noni, ginger, ginseng, eleuthero, PAU D’ARCO, MILK THISTLE; ALOE juice

> (2 tsp before meals)/Aloe Boost by AloeLife.com; SELENIUM; vits. A, B3

> (inositol hexaniacinate), C, D3, E (w/mixed tocopherols), K, QUERCETIN,

> flavanoids; probiotics; digestive enzymes, serrapeptase; CLA; hemp seed,

> black currant (GLA) & FISH/COD LIVER oils; limu/Limuplex

> (WaleWellness.com), spirulina, alfalfa, GREEN foods; whey, brewer’s

> yeast, rice bran.

> “Metformin…kills cancer stem cells†( Gammill, ScD,

> www.natural-oncology.org)

> For dosages, www.doctormurray.com/Qarchive/diabetics.htm

> Misc: heavy metal DETOX, dental detox, EXERCISE, oxygenating products.

> For appetite control, EFT (www.eftuniverse.com). Floss teeth daily;

> brush teeth after every meal.

>

> Foods to AVOID

> Carbohydrates--NEVER eat large amount at single meal. Eat small meals.

> High-Carb & High-Glycemic Foods (NEVER eat them on empty stomach).

> REFINED GRAINS (dough/flour, pastries, pasta), rice (except wild rice),

> CORN, nonsprouted BREAD & WHEAT

> Fruits--dried fruit, DATES; bananas, oranges, sweet & tropical fruit

> Animal products†" red meat, pork, nonorganic animal products;

> pasteurized milk/dairy

> Fats/Oils--HYDROGENATED OILS, OMEGA 6 (canola, cottonseed, soy, corn,

> safflower, sunflower), animal fat. Use ONLY coconut, palm & olive oil.

> Misc.--SUGAR, CORN SYRUP, aspartame/artificial sweeteners; table salt;

> MSG; SODA, ALCOHOL, JUICE; chocolate; FRIED, processed, refined, & other

> junk food; potatoes (except sweet potato); iron

>

> Type 1 Diabetes-- DETOX. Eat RAW foods; take DIGESTIVE ENZYMES &

> www.SERRAPEPTASE.info/cond_diabetes.htm on empty stomach.

>

> Leonard

>

>

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

I have a question, are Kamut and Spelt considered wheat? I only do

sourdough breads, so the phytaze [enzyme inhibitor] is removed. Or do I

have to do them sprouted as well?

I don't see melons listed, are they good or not? I only eat the organic

ones I grow. Oriental melons, Europeon melons and American melons, no

watermelons. They are too sweet.

Also, eggplant, cucumbers and peppers? My summer staples fresh from the

garden. I assume they are okay?

Is pink sea salt considered table salt?

I live and work on a farm in Texas, I normally use bananas and potassium

chloride mixed with sea salt to handle the heat. Gatorade is toxic

stuff that I don't use, but the heat is a killer. Any suggestions? I

do manual labor in the heat all summer.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

On 3/10/2011 12:48 PM, Leonard wrote:

> Garth & Kim <gartht@...> wrote:

> >how do people with an impaired glucose tolerance handle these diets?

>

> DIET & SUPPLEMENT GUIDELINES FOR CANCER PATIENTS w/DIABETES

>

> Best Foods to Eat

>

> raw (above-ground) VEGETABLES (eat skin if organic [org.])-- CELERY;

> AVOCADO, olive, GARLIC, ONION/LEEK; bok choy; (non-alfalfa) SPROUTS;

> SEAWEED, non-iceberg lettuce. May cook (steam) LEAFY GREENS (spinach,

> parsley, KALE, WATERCRESS, dandelion, mustard & turnip greens),

> CRUCIFEROUS vegs. (especially BRUSSELS SPROUTS & CABBAGE), turnip,

> ASPARAGUS, SHIITAKE/MAITAKE, ARTICHOKE.

> SALAD w/Bragg.com dressing or olive oil, red-wine vinegar & LEMON juice

> Beans/Legumes†" lentils; SPROUTED beans; TEMPEH

> Fruit (before exercise)†" org. berries (cherry, raspberry, goji,

> cranberry, blueberry, strawberry); grapefruit, lemon/lime, ripe tomato,

> green APPLE, peach

> Grains--buckwheat, oats, BARLEY & rye; oat & rice bran; SPROUTED Ezekiel

> bread

> Seeds (raw/sprouted)--especially pumpkin & ground flax

> Nuts†" raw pine, walnut, coconut, ALMOND

> Seafood†" wild/deep-sea Iceland/Pacific/Alaskan SALMON, sardine, herring

> Meat--organic/grass-fed/naturally-grown poultry

> Dairy†" RAW/grass-fed/org. yogurt & kefir

> Oil--For high-temp cooking, COCONUT or palm. For low-temp, olive’s ok.

> Beverages--purified water (8 glasses); herbal & GREEN TEA

> Sweeteners†" Stevia, lo-han, or other no-calorie natural sweetener from

> health food store (www.doctormurray.com/newsletter/2-3-2004.htm), or a

> little RAW honey

> Spices†" cayenne, garlic, turmeric

>

> SUPPLEMENTS: BITTER MELON, fiber, cayenne, turmeric/curcumin, dandelion,

> Essiac/Flor-Essence, pycnogenol, SHIITAKE, MAITAKE, bilberry, goji,

> Noni, ginger, ginseng, eleuthero, PAU D’ARCO, MILK THISTLE; ALOE juice

> (2 tsp before meals)/Aloe Boost by AloeLife.com; SELENIUM; vits. A, B3

> (inositol hexaniacinate), C, D3, E (w/mixed tocopherols), K, QUERCETIN,

> flavanoids; probiotics; digestive enzymes, serrapeptase; CLA; hemp seed,

> black currant (GLA) & FISH/COD LIVER oils; limu/Limuplex

> (WaleWellness.com), spirulina, alfalfa, GREEN foods; whey, brewer’s

> yeast, rice bran.

> “Metformin…kills cancer stem cells†( Gammill, ScD,

> www.natural-oncology.org)

> For dosages, www.doctormurray.com/Qarchive/diabetics.htm

> Misc: heavy metal DETOX, dental detox, EXERCISE, oxygenating products.

> For appetite control, EFT (www.eftuniverse.com). Floss teeth daily;

> brush teeth after every meal.

>

> Foods to AVOID

> Carbohydrates--NEVER eat large amount at single meal. Eat small meals.

> High-Carb & High-Glycemic Foods (NEVER eat them on empty stomach).

> REFINED GRAINS (dough/flour, pastries, pasta), rice (except wild rice),

> CORN, nonsprouted BREAD & WHEAT

> Fruits--dried fruit, DATES; bananas, oranges, sweet & tropical fruit

> Animal products†" red meat, pork, nonorganic animal products;

> pasteurized milk/dairy

> Fats/Oils--HYDROGENATED OILS, OMEGA 6 (canola, cottonseed, soy, corn,

> safflower, sunflower), animal fat. Use ONLY coconut, palm & olive oil.

> Misc.--SUGAR, CORN SYRUP, aspartame/artificial sweeteners; table salt;

> MSG; SODA, ALCOHOL, JUICE; chocolate; FRIED, processed, refined, & other

> junk food; potatoes (except sweet potato); iron

>

> Type 1 Diabetes-- DETOX. Eat RAW foods; take DIGESTIVE ENZYMES &

> www.SERRAPEPTASE.info/cond_diabetes.htm on empty stomach.

>

> Leonard

>

>

[Guest guest]

I remember the writings of Herbert Shelton, an old-time Naturopath that was

way ahead of his times re fasting and Hygienic living.

One thing that has always stuck in my mind was: Eat melon alone or leave

it alone. His claim? It took upwards of four hours to digest whereas most

fruits digest within 1/2 hour. He believed that when we combine certain

food, they do not get digested properly and ferment. When fermented

(rotten) it simply added more toxins to the normal amount we have to

eliminate thereby causing problems. Check into his books. They are more

thorough about food than anything I have ever read.

Shelton was a big fan of Food Combining which is as rigid as anything can be

re eating. For example, absolutely no starches with protein and he

preferred protein in the form of nuts. Fruits with fruits and no protein

unless it was citrus fruit. His books were thorough and informative and his

writings seem to make sense. Have I followed them? Don't ask. However

I did fast at his ranch back in the mid 50s and saw some marvelous healings

but not cancer. Shelton did not believe fasting was a useful tool in

fasting. His definition of fasting was strictly pure water (distilled) and

yes, I know about the supposed dangers but understand, this was more than 60

years ago and nothing stays the same does it? I do still fast and caused my

kids to fast when ever a fever showed up.

Joe C.

Re: [ ] Re: cancer diets for diabetics

Greetings,

I have a question, are Kamut and Spelt considered wheat? I only do

sourdough breads, so the phytaze [enzyme inhibitor] is removed. Or do I

have to do them sprouted as well?

I don't see melons listed, are they good or not? I only eat the organic

ones I grow. Oriental melons, Europeon melons and American melons, no

watermelons. They are too sweet.

Also, eggplant, cucumbers and peppers? My summer staples fresh from the

garden. I assume they are okay?

Is pink sea salt considered table salt?

I live and work on a farm in Texas, I normally use bananas and potassium

chloride mixed with sea salt to handle the heat. Gatorade is toxic

stuff that I don't use, but the heat is a killer. Any suggestions? I

do manual labor in the heat all summer.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

On 3/10/2011 12:48 PM, Leonard wrote:

> Garth & Kim <gartht@...> wrote:

> >how do people with an impaired glucose tolerance handle these diets?

>

> DIET & SUPPLEMENT GUIDELINES FOR CANCER PATIENTS w/DIABETES

>

> Best Foods to Eat

>

> raw (above-ground) VEGETABLES (eat skin if organic [org.])-- CELERY;

> AVOCADO, olive, GARLIC, ONION/LEEK; bok choy; (non-alfalfa) SPROUTS;

> SEAWEED, non-iceberg lettuce. May cook (steam) LEAFY GREENS (spinach,

> parsley, KALE, WATERCRESS, dandelion, mustard & turnip greens),

> CRUCIFEROUS vegs. (especially BRUSSELS SPROUTS & CABBAGE), turnip,

> ASPARAGUS, SHIITAKE/MAITAKE, ARTICHOKE.

> SALAD w/Bragg.com dressing or olive oil, red-wine vinegar & LEMON juice

> Beans/Legumes†" lentils; SPROUTED beans; TEMPEH

> Fruit (before exercise)†" org. berries (cherry, raspberry, goji,

> cranberry, blueberry, strawberry); grapefruit, lemon/lime, ripe tomato,

> green APPLE, peach

> Grains--buckwheat, oats, BARLEY & rye; oat & rice bran; SPROUTED Ezekiel

> bread

> Seeds (raw/sprouted)--especially pumpkin & ground flax

> Nuts†" raw pine, walnut, coconut, ALMOND

> Seafood†" wild/deep-sea Iceland/Pacific/Alaskan SALMON, sardine, herring

> Meat--organic/grass-fed/naturally-grown poultry

> Dairy†" RAW/grass-fed/org. yogurt & kefir

> Oil--For high-temp cooking, COCONUT or palm. For low-temp, olive’s ok.

> Beverages--purified water (8 glasses); herbal & GREEN TEA

> Sweeteners†" Stevia, lo-han, or other no-calorie natural sweetener from

> health food store (www.doctormurray.com/newsletter/2-3-2004.htm), or a

> little RAW honey

> Spices†" cayenne, garlic, turmeric

>

> SUPPLEMENTS: BITTER MELON, fiber, cayenne, turmeric/curcumin, dandelion,

> Essiac/Flor-Essence, pycnogenol, SHIITAKE, MAITAKE, bilberry, goji,

> Noni, ginger, ginseng, eleuthero, PAU D’ARCO, MILK THISTLE; ALOE juice

> (2 tsp before meals)/Aloe Boost by AloeLife.com; SELENIUM; vits. A, B3

> (inositol hexaniacinate), C, D3, E (w/mixed tocopherols), K, QUERCETIN,

> flavanoids; probiotics; digestive enzymes, serrapeptase; CLA; hemp seed,

> black currant (GLA) & FISH/COD LIVER oils; limu/Limuplex

> (WaleWellness.com), spirulina, alfalfa, GREEN foods; whey, brewer’s

> yeast, rice bran.

> “Metformin…kills cancer stem cells†( Gammill, ScD,

> www.natural-oncology.org)

> For dosages, www.doctormurray.com/Qarchive/diabetics.htm

> Misc: heavy metal DETOX, dental detox, EXERCISE, oxygenating products.

> For appetite control, EFT (www.eftuniverse.com). Floss teeth daily;

> brush teeth after every meal.

>

> Foods to AVOID

> Carbohydrates--NEVER eat large amount at single meal. Eat small meals.

> High-Carb & High-Glycemic Foods (NEVER eat them on empty stomach).

> REFINED GRAINS (dough/flour, pastries, pasta), rice (except wild rice),

> CORN, nonsprouted BREAD & WHEAT

> Fruits--dried fruit, DATES; bananas, oranges, sweet & tropical fruit

> Animal products†" red meat, pork, nonorganic animal products;

> pasteurized milk/dairy

> Fats/Oils--HYDROGENATED OILS, OMEGA 6 (canola, cottonseed, soy, corn,

> safflower, sunflower), animal fat. Use ONLY coconut, palm & olive oil.

> Misc.--SUGAR, CORN SYRUP, aspartame/artificial sweeteners; table salt;

> MSG; SODA, ALCOHOL, JUICE; chocolate; FRIED, processed, refined, & other

> junk food; potatoes (except sweet potato); iron

>

> Type 1 Diabetes-- DETOX. Eat RAW foods; take DIGESTIVE ENZYMES &

> www.SERRAPEPTASE.info/cond_diabetes.htm on empty stomach.

>

> Leonard

>

>

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[Guest guest]

>> Greetings,

>> I had a BIL that was real sick, finally a Naturopath put him on the kind

>> of diet you are talking about, he got better. I will look up these books.

>>

>> Fasting is a dangerous thing for me, I have an ongoing battle with

>> anorexia when in pain left over from infancy. While I have conquered

>> it, to the point where for the first time in my life I need to loose

>> weight, not gain it, that is thin ice for me to walk on. It is hard to

>> deal with health naturally when one has been a 'patient' all their life.

>> I can tell you, if I don't get this cancer under control, I will be

>> headed that direction, but it is at the bottom of the list of options.

>>

>> Bright Blessings,

>> Garth & Kim

>> www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

>> Bedias, Texas

>> 936-395-0110

>>

>> On 3/11/2011 5:29 PM, JoeCastron wrote:

>>> I remember the writings of Herbert Shelton, an old-time Naturopath that was

>>> way ahead of his times re fasting and Hygienic living.

>>>

>>> One thing that has always stuck in my mind was: Eat melon alone or leave

>>> it alone. His claim? It took upwards of four hours to digest whereas most

>>> fruits digest within 1/2 hour. He believed that when we combine certain

>>> food, they do not get digested properly and ferment. When fermented

>>> (rotten) it simply added more toxins to the normal amount we have to

>>> eliminate thereby causing problems. Check into his books. They are more

>>> thorough about food than anything I have ever read.

>>>

>>> Shelton was a big fan of Food Combining which is as rigid as anything can be

>>> re eating. For example, absolutely no starches with protein and he

>>> preferred protein in the form of nuts. Fruits with fruits and no protein

>>> unless it was citrus fruit. His books were thorough and informative and his

>>> writings seem to make sense. Have I followed them? Don't ask. However

>>> I did fast at his ranch back in the mid 50s and saw some marvelous healings

>>> but not cancer. Shelton did not believe fasting was a useful tool in

>>> fasting. His definition of fasting was strictly pure water (distilled) and

>>> yes, I know about the supposed dangers but understand, this was more than 60

>>> years ago and nothing stays the same does it? I do still fast and caused my

>>> kids to fast when ever a fever showed up.

>>>

>>> Joe C.

>>>

[Guest guest]

Im a 59 year old guy  I had anorexia when I was a kid .  with a dominating

neurotic mother,  it was the only form of control I had, So  I know what your

going though.  I dont believe fasting works when we have cancer,  as the

cancer will put out single to our brain to make us seek out  high energy

foods.

I also think losing weight in the mind.  my wife bought this book on Joe

who lost 100kilos with out dieting.  I read it because it look at the power of

the mind  http://www.gabrielmethod.com.au/ I still think the best way to fight 

cancer is to not fight our cancer at all.   I feel cancer a condition of the

body not a disease of the body.  I have prostrate cancer bone mets in my lower

back and ribs.  I should be dead by now but Im find more then find . all because

I listened to my naturopath who put me on a diet and vitamins I could buy from

any supermarket. she told me cancer when our body out of balance out of tune it

take a long while to get cancer it takes a long while to to get it under control

it took me a year to do this but I wasn't a patient all my life like you were

but when I started doing this I still found it very hard to do this my self .

all I can say it gets easy as it gos on longer all the best  Ray  

________________________________

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

Thank you for your kind words. I truly believe that my cancer was

caused by stress. The diet and supplements will cure it, but it will

take some time and it will take a mental shift. It is wonderful to hear

of other people beating the cancer.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

Bedias, Texas

936-395-0110

On 3/13/2011 12:32 AM, Randall Crossley wrote:

> all

> because

> I listened to�my naturopath who put me on a diet and vitamins I�could

> buy from

> any supermarket. she told me�cancer when�our body out of balance out of

> tune it

> take a long while to get cancer it takes a long while to to get it under

> control

> it took me a year to do this but I wasn't a patient all my life like you

> were

> but when I started doing this I still found it very hard to do this my

> self .

> all I can say it gets easy as it gos on longer all the best �Ray �

>