Was Oxalic Acid, now: Veggies, raw food, etc

[Guest guest]

Dear Edwin,

This is a great post, very useful, and I'm grateful for it, which is why I

didn't crop it. I went to the " easy option " (LOL!) link and again read about how

vegetables aren't as good for you as fruits.

I'm having some trouble understanding this!

The argument against vegetables, cereals and pulses is as follows:

" Just take a look at animals consuming plants only, like cattle, elephants,

horses, koala bears, hippo's, gorilla's, etc.; what do they all have in common?

Large Bellies

All plant eating animals have large bellies, because fibers can only be

decomposed bacterially, causing gasses to originate. If one consumes lots of

grains, vegetables or beans, one definitely can forget about having a flat belly

(it's not just about fat!). Cereals

and beans contain about 6-fold more fiber as fruit does on average (fiber also

inhibits essential cholesterol absorption (1), which can cause depression and

sleeplessness). "

However, I always thought vegetables are supposed to be good for you and have

fewer sugars than fruit! In fact, someone told me that fruit like bananas are

TOO sugary and shouldn't be consumed too often (I'm not paying attention to this

at present as it is all I can do to keep away from processed flour at my stage

of trying to improve my diet!).

Anyway, horses (for one) have very small stomachs. That's why they have to eat

all the time. You can't let them go without something in their small stomachs

for very long or else they get colic. This is a real problem for those who

compete horses, by the way. If they are

too excited they don't eat and if they don't eat they get ill.

So, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I need to understand why veggies are

bad for us as I'm not convinced! What are your thoughts?

Thanks!

Marti

Edwin Casimero wrote:

>Elliot,

> " Too limited for a great number of people? " That is the reason many do not get

well, stay sick and die. That is why I introduce people to the > cure protocol

using Ross Horne's book Health and Survival into the 21st Century:

> http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020122horne.21stcentury/

020122toc.html

>

> The science, the logic to curing cancer and many incurable diseases has long

been established and written about. Curing people with regularity is done in

the many sanitariums around the world. Big strong sick men have been known to

cry on their knees adjusting to a real human lifestyle. It is the mind that

must be healed first. Only when people understand that they must unlearn the

false " facts " that $$$ medicine $$$ has fed them will they be open to healing.

>

> Being truly cured of a lifestyle disease like cancer is very

> inconvenient for many afflicted people. Simply because it is their

> lifestyle choices, their environments, their habits, their diet that has

caused them to be diseased in the first place. Inconvenient changes must be

made and will be made to steer the cancer afflicted from the road to sure death

to a road to a healthy life. Big efforts must be made if your current habits

are so far fetched or so destructive.

1. The fruitarian approach is the cleanest and easiest to adhere to.

> Add raw green juices if you like. http://www.rawschool.com

> 2. There is also the raw paleolithic approach which uses less raw

> fruits, some raw animal meat and much raw animal fat.

> http://www.rawpaleodiet.org/

> 3. The easy compromise for most people is Wai Genriiu's approach with the Wai

Diet. (more raw fruits, salads with extra virgin olive oil, some raw eggs and

some raw fatty fish)

> http://www.waidiet.com/thewaidiet.html

> And here is me summarizing all of the above:

> http://www.eczemacure.info/article/articleview/259/1/9

> You remember my wife's uncle I helped cure of cancer last year? He's so

strong now, climbing mountains, selling them for farm land, he is now back to

being lazy about his eating habits and I met him last Christmas and he ate

cooked rice, cooked pork and drank coca cola right in front of me. Some people

never learn.

> If one is sick of cancer right now, just switch to any of those raw

> diets you think you can stick to for some 1 or 2 months. You make

> adjustments according to how you feel and how your body reacts to

> certain foods.

> The logic is to put sick people in an absolutely clean diet first.

> After some time reintroduce what you think are other " foods " one at a time and

see how your body likes those " new foods " .

> Raw foodism will hydrate most people, the water in raw food is

> structured perfectly to hydrate humans. If you need more water, home

distilled water is the next best. Then home reverse osmosis last.

> Of course raw food is just that one big chunk of the healing equation. There

are many other variables that must be addressed.

> Good skill,

> Edwin

>

[Guest guest]

To say that vegetables are not as good for one as fruits, to say that

they are " indigestible " when raw, to say that the best diet is one

that is mostly or totally fruit, flies in the face of mega-tons of

data, in the face of common sense and in the faces of countless

people who are living very well indeed on diets that consist of BOTH

vegetables,(much of them raw), AND fruits.

To suggest that people eat fruit in order to get their water, to the

extent that they drink very little plain, pure water, appears to me

to be quite suspect, if not dangerous. How is a person going to get 8

8ounce glasses of water from fruit each day? I very much doubt such a

thing is going to happen. And if one is trying to get 1/2 oz per

pound of body weight of water daily, then it looks even more

difficult to get all the water one needs from fruit. (In case any

reader has not seen it, the fruitarian diet Edwin is talking about

calls for those on it to drink very little pure water.)

Best wishes,

Elliot

[Guest guest]

Elliot,

Maybe you just missed my postings of http://www.rawschool.com

Also check out http://www.living-foods.com

Also check out http://www.rawfoodexplained.com

Also check out http://www.barefootherbalistmh.com

Also check out http://www.fruitarian.com

Also check out

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020122horne.21stcentury/020122ch15\

..html

Also check out http://www.fruitarianfitness.com

They all say the same things.

I have my own opinions about raw food in my own websites

http://www.myhealthblog.org and http://www.eczemacure.info

I'm sure you'd rather eat raw apples (fruits) than eat raw broccoli

(vegetables) all day.

I like your line of thinking, you must ask questions. Question

everything. Question common sense. Which turns out that mass common

sense is wrong because the masses are so diseased with pitiful lifespans

and a " there is no cure " culture aka garbage science aka garbage medicine.

Those are just the fruitarians. (some 75% fruits and the rest

vegetables and a few nuts)

Just you wait and try raw fruitarian and talk to me about your

experience. You will see. Experience is the best teacher.

Wait until you hear what the Raw Paleo Dieters have to say. (some fruit

and majority raw animal eggs, meat, fat diet)

Happy reading!

Edwin

breathedeepnow wrote:

>

> To say that vegetables are not as good for one as fruits, to say that

> they are " indigestible " when raw, to say that the best diet is one

> that is mostly or totally fruit, flies in the face of mega-tons of

> data, in the face of common sense and in the faces of countless

> people who are living very well indeed on diets that consist of BOTH

> vegetables,(much of them raw), AND fruits.

>

> To suggest that people eat fruit in order to get their water, to the

> extent that they drink very little plain, pure water, appears to me

> to be quite suspect, if not dangerous. How is a person going to get 8

> 8ounce glasses of water from fruit each day? I very much doubt such a

> thing is going to happen. And if one is trying to get 1/2 oz per

> pound of body weight of water daily, then it looks even more

> difficult to get all the water one needs from fruit. (In case any

> reader has not seen it, the fruitarian diet Edwin is talking about

> calls for those on it to drink very little pure water.)

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Elliot

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Edwin,

I'm not criticizing your diet at all -- I'm sure it is good for you -- but I

really couldn't eat all that raw meat. I can't even eat cooked meat most of the

time. I hate meat. I'd have to be starving, seriously. And then, yeah, I'd eat

whatever I could.

I found it interesting that your child has crowding and some tooth decay. My

children do not have as good a diet as your children -- I can guarantee that.

I'm not proud of the fact, but it is a fact. However, they don't have any tooth

decay. My daughter is 13 and has never had a cavity. They don't use toothpaste

with flouride either (to the astonishment of my dentist!). My son -- oh dear --

my son will hardly TOUCH a vegetable or fruit. I have to put up star charts to

get him to eat them. My daughter is much better but she also eats

sweets and stuff.

So maybe it is all a little more random than we imagine!

Marti

Edwin Casimero wrote:

> Elliot,

> Maybe you just missed my postings of http://www.rawschool.com

> Also check out http://www.living-foods.com

> Also check out http://www.rawfoodexplained.com

> Also check out http://www.barefootherbalistmh.com

> Also check out http://www.fruitarian.com

> Also check out

> http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020122horne.21stcentury/

020122ch15.html

> Also check out http://www.fruitarianfitness.com

> > They all say the same things.

> > I have my own opinions about raw food in my own websites

> http://www.myhealthblog.org and http://www.eczemacure.info

>