Re: Newbie - Apsley Acers - long

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Sharon,

I know this will sound simplistic, but your loss of memory, low energy,

inability to be able to put a sentence together, are exactly what

happened to me when I was really low on potassium. Are you sure you are

getting enough potassium on the diet you are on?

Sara

Lvquilting@...

[Guest guest]

Thanx for asking Sara

Yes I am quite sure my level for potassium is okay -

I do eat plenty of potassium rich foods .

The fact that those particular symptoms have started to disappear on this SCD

diet makes me think that

area is fine.

My problem is how to change the SCD diet so my liver gets happier - less achy.

So I need to integrate it

with Cabot's Diet as well as I can; as I am doing so well on it..

LOL may have to write my own book <BIG GRIN>

Sharon

Apsley Acers

> Sharon,

> I know this will sound simplistic, but your loss of memory, low energy,

> inability to be able to put a sentence together, are exactly what

> happened to me when I was really low on potassium. Are you sure you are

> getting enough potassium on the diet you are on?

>

> Sara

> Lvquilting@j...

[Guest guest]

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Good Afternoon Everyone;

my name is Sharon and I am new to this list.

I joined your list hoping one/some of you could help me with a catch 22 -

liver problem .

First some background information - a hard thing to write in a few words

- so please bear with me as it is rather involved ;-(

Really Basic Info

I have suffered with MCS - Multiple Chemical Sensitivities for 12 years due

to an extended (approx. 1 week) poisoning of a toxic soup of leaky bottles -

broken bags etc, of garden centre products while cleaning out a poorly

ventilated old chemical (herbicide-pesticide-fungicide) / fertilizer

storeroom.

I had worked in this industry for many years.

I have not been able to work since.

I now have a sensitivity to most products which are derived from or utilize

parts of any petro chemical product(s)

- a long list to say the least. cleaners - perfumes - gasoline -

make-up - shampoo - toothpaste - new rugs - paints- furniture

- way too many to list as most products, even foods use a great deal of

petro chemicals

This sensitivity manifested itself with

- lack of energy

- inability to think and remember

- poor speech making ability

- swelling and soreness in the front left temporal lobe

- Fibromyalgia and CFS also are diagnosed problems. I think they are

intertwined with MCS.

Plus many other problems too numerous to mention - but you get my gist -

living life in general can get quite difficult.

We moved to the country over 6 years ago ;-) to a circa 1875 settler log

cabin on a 100+ acres in one of Ontario's Vacation wonderlands ( which

really means rocks lakes trees and few year round residents).

We now enjoy:

- clean air

- pure water

- our home and acres are 100% chemical free

- grow most of our own vegetables

- cook from scratch, no additives

- several hepa air cleaners in case someone unexpectedly visits with a

scent

- you get my drift.

As long as I stayed home my life was actually sometimes livable.

Unfortunately even with all these changes;

I experienced extended periods with on going health problems; especially

after an exposure:

- my memory, energy and speaking abilities were getting worse.

Our own local older doctor - who is so swamped as we are rural - doesn't

acknowledge yet the possibility of being sensitive to odors from everyday

chemicals, cleaners and scents. I have great difficulties even going into

his odiferous office and react to most prescriptions. I just basically do

not use our health system if at all possible.

He did send me for the two scans when I mentioned my sore liver - he said

there was nothing I could do to make my now enlarged liver better. Our

nearest larger centre an hour away has a doctor shortage and no one is

taking new patients; even if I could go into their offices.

A catch 22 - so I am muddling through the best I can..

I am in regular contact via phone with my naturalpath as a health

practitioner ; I am fortunate as she also makes house calls if I need one

;-)

She also allows me input and to discuss possible avenues of care - we are

learning how to deal with my MCS together, as so little is known and all

cases depending on the original exposure react slightly different.

I am very knowledgeable with culinary/medicinal herbs . I grow and wild

harvest most of my own herbs and make my own remedies.

This ensures me; they are chemical free, plus puts me in charge of my own

health - which is great..

Our Environmental Health Clinic at Woman's College / Sunnybrook Hospital in

Toronto

- said I had already implemented most of what they could suggest, that there

was nothing else they could help me with.

It seems my liver is now the main thing to be compromised it is enlarged.

I will mention here that my gall bladder was removed 20+ years ago - if I

had known then what I know now It would still be in place ;-(

My (enlarged) liver gives me an ache for weeks at a time these past few

years - often keeping me awake at night.

When it does this - my bowel movements become light coloured - needless to

say my energy low.. I sleep a lot.

I do do and have done several types of cleanses over the past years.

For my liver and other areas of body.

The liver detoxes seem to clear the ache for periods of time. I do all

cleanses at half strength for several reasons:

- sometimes I react to some of the herbs used in the store purchased

preparations - hard to know if they use organically grown

- dumping too much toxic waste into my system sends me reeling and makes me

quite ill; they contain some of the stored up chemical toxins I have yet to

remove from my body fat and liver after all these years - a slow process.

I get so lethargic; all the above symptoms kick in full force and I seem to

have only enough energy do nothing but sleep when I detox anything too

quickly.

I chose to purchase several of liver health related books.

The first one I utilized was Cabot's liver diet & cleanse formulas

- I did follow the diet & recommended capsules for several months -

unfortunately I didn't get much better; I think her dosages were too high

for my MCS.

In fact during this time my memory and speaking got decididly worse - I am

sure the cause was because toxins were releasing too quickly; but not being

evacuated out of my system.

I stopped the diet and slept and accomplished very little for a long time.

Had a really bad winter.

That early spring a new symptom appeared: similar to IBS (Irritable Bowl

Syndrome) to add to my woes

Then things got really bad:

- my speaking was the pits as I couldn't pull out enough words to make a

sentence

- I was using notebooks on every table of the house to write down my current

thoughts etc. so I wouldn't immediately forget them - mind you I had to read

all the books to find the bits I wanted to remember.. and my energy was

non-existent. I did not much of anything. In fact I was almost ready to

throw in the towel at times as it seemed like everything we had so far

accomplished had gone down the tubes. Very depressing!

Someone on one of my MCS lists mentioned that though not related to MCS

- a SCD Specific Carbohydrate Diet had helped their MCS memory / energy /

speech problems

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.org/

Grasping at straws I choose to give this eating plan a try.

After less one month on this eating plan my:

- memory has improved amazingly well

- no more speech problems and more energy

- unless of course I go off the diet or out into the world and have a bad

exposure..

Needless to say both my hubby and I are ecstatic that after 12 years

something is finally really helping.

Whether this diet helped so well becuse we had eliminated so many toxins

from my world; or that perhaps I had an undiagnosed problen which the diet

addressed - I have no idea but it was phenomenal - I was so happy..

PHEW!!! nothing is perfect it seems...

NOW the crux of the problem - my enlarged liver has gotten decidedly more

sore since I started this wonderful diet last spring. Some nights I cannot

lie on that side and it really is in achy mode.

I was hoping to stay on this diet for at least 2 years as this is how long

it is suggested to give ones digestive system time to heal.

I HAVE really gotten attached to actually thinking again, plus speaking

clearly and having some energy etc.

Some days I almost feel normal. Now I am gung ho to find ways to keep this

positive ball rolling.

I have a Rebounder to start draining my lymphs by gentle jumping.

My wonderful ever patient, soulmate - best friend and hubby is in the

process of making me a dry heat sauna to help me also detox in the winter as

it is hard to sweat when one's cabin is snowbound.

I also take detox baths plus am rotating 3 different liver cleanses at half

dosage

- I do one type for a month; then stop for a month

- then start another type.

I have just started doing Castor oil warm packs at night - I plan do these

for 3 day per week for 3 weeks.

Can you think of anything I can also do to help with my achy enlarged liver?

I am not sure if you are aware of this SCD Diet

What I need to do now is merge the Cabot diet and the SCD diet

together.

Taking the best from both but using the SCD as the base as it helped so very

much.

The result should give me a liver friendly SCD diet.

I suppose I'd be crazy to ask if anyone has already done this?

Yes I am over weight - but that is not a priority at the moment.

I know that my renewed energy will start to move the weight off.

The weight came with my inertness caused by lack of energy to do things.

It took years to add time and will take years to leave, now I have renewed

energy.

In case you are wondering I still react to chemicals when out but seem to

bounce back faster to norm.

Which means instead of several days in bed wiped out with symptoms listed

above - I now am only about one day - good news for me!

I actually had already integrated some of Cabot's ideas/recipes and

include things like her ground almonds - sunflower seeds and flax seeds

into my daily diet..

Can you suggest any other avenues for me to look into?

Any other ideas that would help me understand better how to make my enlarged

liver go back to normal?

Has anyone made up a list of foods that one should NOT eat if one has an

enlarged liver?

Then I could then easily delete all of these from the SCD diet (somehow I

really doubt life would get this easy.)

Needless to say I know I will someday do a flush - I am just really

hesitant; as I wonder if my body would react to it in a very negative way -

has anyone with MCS done one?

By algimatating the two books - eliminating negative foods and continue with

the Castor Oil Packs hopefully my liver will eventually stop it's aching

and start getting better.

Has anyone successfully healed their enlarged liver? if so what steps did

you take?

Thanx for your time and energy, as I know this is long and convoluted.

Any other thoughts will be welcome.

Warmest regards,

Sharon

Apsley Acers

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Sharon;

This is one heck of a story, and especially since it's from someone living

it. I can relate to the feelings you've described as I feel much the same

myself, as I have a liver that has had to deal with Hepatitis A & C and

damage

by failing to provide it necessary EFAs for a time.

I also went through a sever session of CFS back in '95', during this time I

also was laid up with sever arthritis in my knees. Between the two things I

was fortunate if I could work four hours a day, if I could even get out of

the house after getting dressed for work. This went on for around three

months.

I have been following the principles of Dr. Cabot's information for three

years now. Prior to having done so I had just gone through a seven month

time period of gallbladder cleansing and dealing with gallbladder or liver

attacks that would have me going to the hospital four times during that time

period and taking around ninety plus roxicet pain killers to deal with other

more minor attacks.

Since applying the principle from Dr. Cabot's book along with some other

therapies, I haven't had a gallbladder or liver attack since. Some of the

other therapies has to do with ozone, colonics or enemas, colloidal silver,

and zapping or blood electrical poleation.

The problem you are facing has to do with a toxin intake that has simply

overloaded your system to a point that just getting out a little is like a

reinfection of the problem because of the way the body will reabsorb the

toxins that just got released from some other area.

The thing you may find that can help in this case is to use ozone for the

oxidation that it can do to cause a change in the toxin's effectiveness. The

problem with insecticides is that they contain organophosphates and other

cholinesterase inhibitors and affects the neural transmitters. Interesting

enough it can even be suspect regarding the root cause of Mad Cow disease.

http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/17/bovine_spongiform_disease.htm

What you need to do is to chelate heavy metal and the chemical poisons by

some means. In this case oxidation is more in order as it changes the

property of the chemicals and heavy metals by oxidation. During this type of

cleansing you would want to make sure you're getting things moved out of the

liver ASAP and you would also want to make sure there is plenty of fiber of

the soluble and insoluble types virtually flowing through your system. And,

along with that you would want to help the liver by supplementing with

taurine to help the binding of the chemicals and heavy metals to get them

out with the bile.

http://www.liverdoctor.com/detoxification.shtml

http://www.liverdoctor.com/toneplus.shtml

Doing a detox of the nature that you are needing takes some very serious

dedication and should certainly be done with a doctor who can work with this

type of need, as blood tests and hair tests can go a long way towards

knowing things are happening, good and bad.

http://www.oxygenhealthsystems.com/ozonetherapy.html

http://www.mineraltoddy.com/resinfo/toxicmin.htm

Considering your liver's apparent condition and the discomfort you're

dealing with I would be seeking to have a colonist who has an ozone machine

or if you had the funds to purchase your own I'd be getting one and then do

my own colon cleansing by means of a colema rather than an enema as it is

more consistent and can have ozone setup to bubble in with the water.

The ozone being bubbled in with the water is absorbed by the blood vessels

that are all along the intestines and that go directly to the liver,

gallbladder, pancreas and the spleen. This gets lots of oxygen to the cells

and in a very short time. You can always tell when the oxygen saturation has

been reached when the hands are noticeably pinker and there is a warmth to

the back of the throat.

Oh, and if you don't want to do the flush in the conventional way you can do

it the way I do. I take around 3 to 4 ounces of olive oil with fresh

grapefruit around 2 to 3 hours before the treatment. I have been able to

note the oil passing as it will stick to the glass of the viewing tube and

sometimes I get to see a stone or two as they pass on the upper area of the

tube, unlike the fecal matter that will be suspended or rolling at the

bottom side of the tube. This usually will occur towards the end of my

treatments after having had the liver flushing numerous times. IF you are

not getting to the point of the liver flushing all that's getting cleansed

is the colon and you're not getting the full benifit a colonic can afford

over an enema.

As regards the foods someone with an enlarged liver should not eat you

should already know that from reading Dr Cabot's book " The Liver Cleansing

Diet " . To reiterate on that; you should be avoiding all forms of

hydrogentated fats ( deep fried or simply fried foods ), saturated animal

fats, proceessed foods, and food containing aspartame.

I would suggest doing castor oil packs on a daily basis for some extended

time as this should help you to feel a lot more comfortable in a fairly

short length of time. It sure worked for me, and a lot of others here.

Dale