Re: Re: Dr. ' program for those looking for alternative cancer cure

[Guest guest]

Yes I agree it is not a cure but a lot like diabetes in that it needs to be

managed as a chronic disease for the rest of my life.

I do have a friend whose mother was sent home with stage four lung cancer, the

drs said they could do no more. She went to Dr. Kelley way back in the 60s and

went through quite a rough time getting better. I speak to the daughter who

says she had to help her mother as she was pretty sick and would look after her

giving her the coffee enemas and there were many times when she was throwing up,

coughing, just really sick, but she survived to live until well into her 70s and

died of a heart attack. The daughter of this lung cancer patient has two

children one who was really sick with what they thought was a brain infection

and she went to 17 doctors who could not figure out what was wrong. She took

her to Dr. and she has been getting better ever since. Her other child,

a boy, got sick after an immunization at a young age and his reflexes are not so

good anymore, Dr. figured out how to get him well. So, he is not only

a cancer dr but is able to figure out how to take care of other illnesses. He

studied all of Dr. Kelley's files for a few years and was so impressed with his

ability that he started his own practice following Dr. Kelley's methods. His

associate Dr. Isaacs also is a great dr.

This woman is my support group and cheers me on when I am feeling down, and she

has a lot of confidence in Dr. G for taking care of her entire family.

Lois

[Guest guest]

Steve,

I cannot provide actual numbers, however I do know several people who were

not successful with his program. The reason I wrote my post was as

follows. My husband battled lung cancer (never smoked or worked with any

sort of chemicals) for a full year with alternative therapies. We went to

see several different practitioners, followed the diet, exercise,

supplements, etc. that were prescribed. We spent a week with in

California and followed all his recommendations as well. Unfortunately for

my husband it was not enough and he did not succeed. I know that there are

many people who succeed at keeping cancer at bay through alternative

therapies and if I were to get a diagnosis, I would follow that route as

well. So I am not knocking alternative therapies and I am not knocking Dr.

either. I just think that there are people out there who follow

the alternative forums and hear the wonderful stories of success who then

believe that it works for everyone and I think everyone should keep in mind

that nothing works for everyone. One must have hope but but realistic at

the same time. Everyone needs to understand that just as traditional

medicine does not work for everyone, neither do the alternative therapies.

Those for whom it has worked should make their successes known but those

reading about it, need to keep in mind that there are no guarantees and that

what has worked for one person, may not necessarily work for another.

I wish everyone battling this ugly disease the best of health.

Nili

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:52 AM, steve_lmcs <lmcs@...> wrote:

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> Nili

>

> It seems like you may have some sort of statistics on Dr. ' success

> rate. Can you provide actual numbers and your source ?

> I don't think we can use the word cure since, in more than one interview

> and/or his books, he doesnt use that word. He treats cancer as a chronic

> disease akin to diabetes, where the patient needs to manage it for the rest

> of their life.

>

> I follow a protocol similar to his using enzymes, diet and detoxification

> and believe his approach is valid. Often times we forget that Dr.

> simply followed in Dr. Kelley's footsteps. And while he too

> was not 100%, Dr. Kelley had a great deal of success. Many of his patients

> were sent home to die by traditional medicine. And their body's were

> horribly damaged from chemo, radiation, etc.

>

> Dr. Kelley and Dr. ' program is all about tailoring for specific

> individuals toxicity, metabolic type and their specific cancer.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In my opinion if someone can have a tumor removed by surgery without a lot of

damage and they have clear margins do that, then do alternative cancer methods.

Thanks, Robyn

[Guest guest]

This assumes that there will be no damage and that clear margins will be the

result even then, one has to wonder whether this is the right course. I

disagree with the premise but I am glad Robin, you did say “in my opinionâ€

and not that this was really the best way. This is the correct way to make

statements that have such a far-reaching potential. When we speak surgery in

cancer, we must also think ‘seeding’ of Cancer cells, something we cannot be

sure will not happen. The very existence of this list came about because it

was formed by its founder/s that did not believe the first course of action

should be invasive procedures. This does not negate the possibility that

surgery might be necessary but that is different from what was stated.

Joe C.

From: robyn howell

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:04 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Dr. ' program for those looking for

alternative cancer cure

In my opinion if someone can have a tumor removed by surgery without a lot of

damage and they have clear margins do that, then do alternative cancer methods.

Thanks, Robyn

[Guest guest]

Joe,

The only reason I say this is I know several people who have had surgery with

great success (skipped the chemo and radiation) and I didnt have surgery on a

small lump in my breast and now its all over in me.

________________________________

From: JoeCastron <jcastron1@...>

Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011

This assumes that there will be no damage and that clear margins will be the

result even then, one has to wonder whether this is the right course. I

disagree with the premise but I am glad Robin, you did say 'in my opinion' and

not that this was really the best way. This is the correct way to make

statements that have such a far-reaching potential. When we speak surgery in

cancer, we must also think 'seeding' of Cancer cells, something we cannot be

sure will not happen. The very existence of this list came about because it

was formed by its founder/s that did not believe the first course of action

should be invasive procedures. This does not negate the possibility that

surgery might be necessary but that is different from what was stated.

Joe C.

From: robyn howell

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011

In my opinion if someone can have a tumor removed by surgery without a lot of

damage and they have clear margins do that, then do alternative cancer methods.

[Guest guest]

Most normal people would come to the same conclusion you did and who wouldn’t?

At least for a while then we have to not kick ourselves for not taking the steps

other have. Do not make the mistake of blaming yourself because it isn’t

productive.

There are many that have done what you think might have been better that are in

even worse condition. Somewhere on my computer is a study that shows many

bladder cancer recurrences are the result of surgery that caused a ‘seeding’

of the cancer cells and I think back on my second and third recurrence and have

an explanation for it..........maybe.

Another thing we cannot do is compare our results with someone else or even a

few others. We are all different and some cancers do not result in what we are

all trying to avoid. Your goal now is to win the game because it isn’t over

any more than it is over for those others that had “great successâ€. There

are cases that do nothing and their cancers have “mysteriously†disappeared.

This is not alternative talk, this was gleaned from a medical source and they

were so dumbfounded some Practitioners have decided that perhaps more of a

‘wait and see’ rather than a quick........â€let’s cut it out and burn

everything else†might be the way to go. Besides not spelling your name

correctly, I want you to know there was not intent to belittle what you said

because you said it in earnest. It just didn’t seem that it should go

unanswered because of the influence words have upon people.

Good luck in your battle,

Joe C.

From: robyn howell

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:11 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Dr. ' program for those looking for

alternative cancer cure

Joe,

The only reason I say this is I know several people who have had surgery with

great success (skipped the chemo and radiation) and I didnt have surgery on a

small lump in my breast and now its all over in me.

________________________________

From: JoeCastron <mailto:jcastron1%40comcast.net>

Sent: Tue, March 29, 2011

This assumes that there will be no damage and that clear margins will be the

result even then, one has to wonder whether this is the right course. I

disagree with the premise but I am glad Robin, you did say 'in my opinion'�

and

not that this was really the best way. This is the correct way to make

statements that have such a far-reaching potential. When we speak surgery in

cancer, we must also think 'seeding' of Cancer cells, something we cannot be

sure will not happen. The very existence of this list came about because it

was formed by its founder/s that did not believe the first course of action

should be invasive procedures. This does not negate the possibility that

surgery might be necessary but that is different from what was stated.

Joe C.

From: robyn howell

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011

In my opinion if someone can have a tumor removed by surgery without a lot of

damage and they have clear margins do that, then do alternative cancer methods.

[Guest guest]

hi Robyn, I feel the answer is yes, as someone can have a tumor removed by

surgery yet the cancer cells are still hanging around the area of the surgery

and at the time the immune system is so weakened fighting the tumor, the other

cancer cells can increase. 

________________________________

From: robyn howell

Sent: Wed, 30 March, 2011

 

In my opinion if someone can have a tumor removed by surgery without a lot of

damage and they have clear margins, do that, then do alternative cancer methods.