This is damned serious stuff. Was Re: Cancer spreading

[Guest guest]

Robyn's situation, and mine, just highlight that this is damned serious

stuff. We don't have time to do it wrong, we don't have the time to be

someone else's experiment,and we most certainly don't have the time or

money to blow on some worthless protocol, or some protocol that helps

one out of fifty.

I know everyone is different, but it would be nice to come up with some

definite rock solid protocols, and why one might choose one over the

other.

The Budwig people say they have one -- their track record is

impressive. But I know some of us are nervous with that, because it

seems like we could be doing more.

I am currently doing Budwig with beta glucan, ip6, and LDN at night.

I'm thinking about adding artemix/butyrate to that. But I don't know

if this will work. If I get it wrong, I'm a dead man. I only get one

chance.

Should I be doing the low ATP protocols? Or the high ATP protocols? I

have no idea. What is behind door three? Life or death?

>

> > I just saw a post that said ldn takes 6 months to start working. I

> > dont think I can wait that long.

> > Thanks,

> > Robyn

>

[Guest guest]

LDN doesn't take 6 months to " Start " working.... But

like any cancer protocol or conventional therapy the

exam or check or check to see results are always

scheduled a few months apart. Most people see

results in a few months that is all just like any

safe, natural protocol.

LDN works as soon as you take it and not on " time

delay " . I waited 4 months before I went in to

" check " to see if I had resuls but if you don't do

anything that is silly.

I have been on LDN for 17 months and now seeing

calcifications around the tumors ( dead cells) so all

these good things I am taking are having an effect.

Waiting or wishing for the best protocol is no excuse

for getting help as soon as you can. Cancer doesn't

wait.

Dee

http://www.ldn4cancer.com

--- jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10@...> wrote:

> Robyn's situation, and mine, just highlight that this is damned serious stuff.

We don't have time to do it wrong, we don't have the time to be someone else's

experiment,and we most certainly don't have the time or money to blow on some

worthless protocol, or some protocol that helps one out of fifty.

> I know everyone is different, but it would be nice to come up with some

definite rock solid protocols, and why one might choose one over the other.

> The Budwig people say they have one -- their track record is

> impressive. But I know some of us are nervous with that, because it seems

like we could be doing more.

> I am currently doing Budwig with beta glucan, ip6, and LDN at night. I'm

thinking about adding artemix/butyrate to that. But I don't know if this will

work. If I get it wrong, I'm a dead man. I only get one chance.

> Should I be doing the low ATP protocols? Or the high ATP protocols? I have

no idea. What is behind door three? Life or

> death?

[Guest guest]

jrrjim,

If you want seriously fast results, colon cleansing is a must if you

have never done any colon cleansing. Order a bottle at amazon.com.

Also for serious results after colon cleansing, immediately do 2 liver

flushes in succession. Do the one without the apple juice. Hulda

's recipe.

http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp

VCO detox, I already mentioned.

Also serious stuff is staying away from all sources of propyl alcohol:

rubbing alcohol, make up, bottled water, packaged food, soap, shampoo,

deodorant, after shave, perfume, etc.

See Hulda's Book to know exactly the chemicals in your home to avoid and

more http://curezone.com/clark/cancer.asp

Good skill,

Edwin

[Guest guest]

I meant to say order COLOSAN at amazon.com

Edwin Casimero wrote:

>

> jrrjim,

>

> If you want seriously fast results, colon cleansing is a must if you

> have never done any colon cleansing. Order a bottle at amazon.com.

>

> Also for serious results after colon cleansing, immediately do 2 liver

> flushes in succession. Do the one without the apple juice. Hulda

> 's recipe.

>

> http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp

> <http://curezone.com/cleanse/liver/huldas_recipe.asp>

>

> VCO detox, I already mentioned.

>

> Also serious stuff is staying away from all sources of propyl alcohol:

> rubbing alcohol, make up, bottled water, packaged food, soap, shampoo,

> deodorant, after shave, perfume, etc.

>

> See Hulda's Book to know exactly the chemicals in your home to avoid and

> more http://curezone.com/clark/cancer.asp

> <http://curezone.com/clark/cancer.asp>

>

> Good skill,

> Edwin

>

>

[Guest guest]

Why don´t you contact ? It seems to me you need to get professional

help and you are trying to make it happen in the group. No one knows which is

the best choice for each person..we are so differen..So why don´t you

contact someone with enough experience to suggest how he would do it..

ou are right..it is no joke so do not waste time any longer There are many

people here who have been to centers in Mexico , and many peole who have

contacted to get his view on things and ask him what he can offer...

Why don´t you give it a try?

NOONE can give you a set protocol in this group, the only set protocol is

the conventional medicine treatment that follows the same steps all over the

world..Unless you do that ( Which I persoanlly didnñt do..and then i was in

no serious situation, compared to yours) there is no Set regime other than

the Budwig, or Gerson or what peole here do with LDN etc..

Good luck

[Guest guest]

Is all of that stuff you are taking budwig compliant?

Thanks, Robyn

From: jrrjim <jim.mcelroy10@...>

Subject: [ ] This is damned serious stuff. Was Re: Cancer spreading

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 12:26 AM

Robyn's situation, and mine, just highlight that this is damned serious

stuff. We don't have time to do it wrong, we don't have the time to be

someone else's experiment,and we most certainly don't have the time or

money to blow on some worthless protocol, or some protocol that helps

one out of fifty.

I know everyone is different, but it would be nice to come up with some

definite rock solid protocols, and why one might choose one over the

other.

The Budwig people say they have one -- their track record is

impressive. But I know some of us are nervous with that, because it

seems like we could be doing more.

I am currently doing Budwig with beta glucan, ip6, and LDN at night.

I'm thinking about adding artemix/butyrate to that. But I don't know

if this will work. If I get it wrong, I'm a dead man. I only get one

chance.

Should I be doing the low ATP protocols? Or the high ATP protocols? I

have no idea. What is behind door three? Life or death?

>

> > I just saw a post that said ldn takes 6 months to start working. I

> > dont think I can wait that long.

> > Thanks,

> > Robyn

>

[Guest guest]

Who is , and where to contact him?

Thanks, Robyn

From: Lillian Moscona <limos99@...>

Subject: Re: [ ] This is damned serious stuff. Was Re: Cancer

spreading

Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:02 AM

Why don´t you contact ? It seems to me you need to get professional

help and you are trying to make it happen in the group. No one knows which is

the best choice for each person..we are so differen..So why don´t you

contact someone with enough experience to suggest how he would do it..

ou are right..it is no joke so do not waste time any longer There are many

people here who have been to centers in Mexico , and many peole who have

contacted to get his view on things and ask him what he can offer...

Why don´t you give it a try?

NOONE can give you a set protocol in this group, the only set protocol is

the conventional medicine treatment that follows the same steps all over the

world..Unless you do that ( Which I persoanlly didnñt do..and then i was in

no serious situation, compared to yours) there is no Set regime other than

the Budwig, or Gerson or what peole here do with LDN etc..

Good luck

[Guest guest]

Robyn, see: (Note, the website is sometimes outdated...

http://www.natural-oncology.org/about.htm

*

phone (858) 523-9144 - fax (858) 523-0919 - or call toll free (800) 557-2944

* The Center for the Study of

Natural Oncology, Inc.

2658 Del Mar Heights Rd, #372

Del Mar, CA 92014

Toll Free: 800.557.2944

Phone: 858.523.9144

Fax: 858.523.0919

Email: staff@...

<mailto:staff@...>Web: www.natural-oncology.org

<http://www.natural-oncology.org>A 501 © 3, non-profit organization.

Gammill is very involved with them, excellent resource on cancer

treatment!

Dave Felt

DFE Research

http://www.dfe.net

On 6/25/2008 7:31:00 AM, robyn howell (robynehowell@...) wrote:

> Who is , and where to contact him?

> Thanks, Robyn

>

>

>

> From: Lillian Moscona

> Subject: Re: [ ] This is damned serious stuff. Was Re: Cancer

> spreading

>

> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 2:02 AM