RE: Kayser-Fleischer Rings

[Guest guest]

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Thank you for taking the time to check my sitatuation. You mentioned hepatitis

of the liver. I have been tested and came up negatibe. However, my Alkaline

Phosphatase which is an enzyme produced in the liver, bone, and placenta that

is released into the blood during injury or during normal activities as bone

growth or pregancy is always on the low side. Also, I have three medium to

large hemangiomas on the liver as well.

Once a person has s Disease, don't they have to detoxify in a very

specific way? I wonder what is to be done about that as I would not want to

have continuous copper build up.

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[Guest guest]

Hello Everyone,

Would this cause color changes in the eyes? I swear my eye color has

" lightened " over the years.... and the whites are more grayish then white.

My eyes are a light 'celery' green (dont ask me someone discribed them like

that LOL).

Or might this just all be in my head?

-- Kathleen

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I didn't mean to imply that you have 's disease. People without

's also get the K-F rings when they are not properly metabolizing copper

(and probably more likely if they are also supplementing it).

Since hyperT seems to involve copper deficiency or inability to metabolize

the copper in the diet which then causes the deficiency, it would appear that

you have an inability to metabolize copper.

Whether this is from the genetic problem which causes 's, from

deficiencies of other minerals necessary for proper copper metabolism (iron,

sulfur, molybdenum, zinc, vitamins, etc.), or from a toxic metal such as

aluminum is unknown at this point. I think that 's is the least likely

of the three possibilities.

Of the remaining two, I think you should definitely consider aluminum

toxicity. I'm planning on a longer post about aluminum, but I've seen studies

indicating that aluminum causes low phosphorus levels. Since calcium combines

with phosphorus to make bones, the lack of sufficient phosphorus causes the

calcium to be unused and excreted. This appears to be the mechanism by which

aluminum causes calcium metabolism problems, bone loss, and teeth problems.

So your low phosphorus in addition to low copper (because it's not getting

utilized) combine to strongly suggest aluminum toxicity.

In 's disease, penicillamine is used as a treatment. Penicillamine is

as degradation product of penicillin and is a chelating agent which chelates

certain heavy metals like copper. I don't think that you have 's or

need chelation. You probably need to supplement the minerals that work with

copper and to supplement with the minerals which antagonize aluminum (My best

guess right now is that these are: boron, silicon, iron, and phosphorus, in

addition to copper.) Of course you don't want to supplement copper until the

cause of the copper accumulation is understood and corrected.

Hopefully I'll have the aluminum information written up soon. This may help

make the picture a little clearer.

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[Guest guest]

Holy catfish, there's a whole web site for 's disease.

Here's more Kayser-Fleischer rings

(it was spelt wrong by the original poster).

http://www.wilsonsdisease.org/content_sub.asp@SUB_ID=56 & CAT_ID=14.html

Jenn