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[Guest guest]

Hello Everyone,

I've been lurking and searching your archives for a few days now... I

think the more I read the more confused I get!

My mother was recently diagnosed with Stage IV Pancreatic cancer. She

has started a chemotherapy regimen of Tarceva and Genzar. I am

desperate to get her better care. A friend of mine once went to Dr.

, but he (Dr. ) would not accept him as a patient -

not sure why. Regardless, I've been trying to research Dr. 's

treatment regimen and I keep coming up with the enzymes. Are we

talking pancreatic enzymes that you buy off the shelf in any

healthfood store?

Also, have any of you purchased/used the Cellect supplements?

ANY feedback is appreciated.

Thank You!

~Sandi

[Guest guest]

Sandi:

The subject is Enzymes you buy off the shelf but as regards your mom, the

problem you will quickly run into is getting someone to do other than what the

people in the White Coats tell them.

Most of the generation your mom is from were as conditioned as any to obey,

without question, the doctor and then we come along and sing a different tune

and cannot offer them a lot of proof while asking them to forget what the doctor

says. Most times it doesn't happen. The proof? Her protocol about to be

or already started.

Perhaps in this case your mom is different and will jump at doing alternative

things but only you know that at this time. Hopefully someone will come up

with a suggestion and you will be able to get mother to try but then let's hope

it is effective for her condition.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Sandi,

I am not sure if it will work but we are using wobenzym n. I believe

that there is a Dr. Wru who has cured pancreatic cancers with

megadoses of these enzymes.

On Apr 5, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Sandi wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

> I've been lurking and searching your archives for a few days now... I think

the more I read the more confused I get!

>

> My mother was recently diagnosed with Stage IV Pancreatic cancer. She has

started a chemotherapy regimen of Tarceva and Genzar. I am

> desperate to get her better care. A friend of mine once went to Dr.

> , but he (Dr. ) would not accept him as a patient -

> not sure why. Regardless, I've been trying to research Dr. 's

> treatment regimen and I keep coming up with the enzymes. Are we

> talking pancreatic enzymes that you buy off the shelf in any

> healthfood store?

> Also, have any of you purchased/used the Cellect supplements?

> ANY feedback is appreciated.

> Thank You!

> ~Sandi

[Guest guest]

Sandi,

You might do more research on the prognosis if Tarceva and Gemzar are used.

Your mother has many good options for fighting pancreatic cancer, but

she will have to start immediately. There are many things that can

go arwy with cancers in this area. An easy and inexpensive start

would be the use of oleander tea/soup.

From the original Ozel patent:

CASE REPORT: HEAD OF PANCREAS CANCER WITH HEPATIC METASTASES

At age 48, the patient presented to a local physician on Sep. 20,

1984 with weakness, loss of weight, abdominal pain and icterus

symptoms. Ultrasonic examination revealed " head of pancreas Ca. "

On Sep. 21, 1984 a second ultrasonic examination was done at the

Selanik Gastroenterology Laboratory and resulted in a diagnosis of

" head of Pancreas Ca 2.times.1.5 cm dia. hepatic metastases in the

near apex right lobe. " On Sep. 29, 1984 the patient underwent

laparatomy at Kayseri Hayat Hospital. The laparatomy report stated

" the patient presented to the hospital with head of pancreas Ca.

diagnosis . . . a hard tumoral mass occupying the head and half of

the pancreas body was detected . . . big olive sized hard, probably

metastatic mass was detected in the middle of the left hepatic lobe.

Cholecystojejunostomie-Braun anastomose was then performed in order

to treat blockage icterus of the patient. "

On Oct. 15, 1984 the patient was examined by the inventor. At this

time the intensity of icterus was reduced and the patient was in poor

medical condition. A test screen utilizing 0.3 ml of NOI resulted in

a fever of 38.degree. C. Following the test screen the patient was

placed on an initial therapeutic regimen of 0.4 ml NOI daily and 0.5

ml NOO given 3 times per day after meals. By Apr. 22, 1985 the

symptoms had disappeared and no fever was observed. On this same

date, ultrasonic examination still revealed " head of pancreas Ca.,

dilated calices in the left kidney and hepatic metastases. " Following

this report the initial therapeutic regimen was extended for another

3 months at the same dose levels. During this 3 month period no rise

in fever was observed. The patient was not placed on maintenance therapy.

On Apr. 5, 1986 the patient was again examined by the inventor and

showed no apparent clinical symptoms. On Apr. 3, 1986 ultrasonic

examination stated as diagnosis " calculus in right hepatic lobe, mass

at the head of pancreas, dilation in pancreas canal. " The report

defined the mass that was present as " hypoechogene. " The unusual

change of previously malignant tumors to nonmalignant masses has been

encountered in numerous other cases of patients treated with NOI.

Since Apr. 22, 1985 the patient has lived a normal life and as of

Apr. 5, 1986 appeared normal.

NOI refers to Ozel's oleander extract. Oleander is easily

available. We grow it at our retreat center. You can check Tony

Isaacs web site for instructions on how to use it. The key with

oleander is to go to almost toxic doses.

At 01:01 PM 4/5/2009, you wrote:

>Hello Everyone,

>

>I've been lurking and searching your archives for a few days now... I

>think the more I read the more confused I get!

>

>My mother was recently diagnosed with Stage IV Pancreatic cancer. She

>has started a chemotherapy regimen of Tarceva and Genzar. I am

>desperate to get her better care. A friend of mine once went to Dr.

>, but he (Dr. ) would not accept him as a patient -

>not sure why. Regardless, I've been trying to research Dr. 's

>treatment regimen and I keep coming up with the enzymes. Are we

>talking pancreatic enzymes that you buy off the shelf in any

>healthfood store?

>

>Also, have any of you purchased/used the Cellect supplements?

>

>ANY feedback is appreciated.

>

>Thank You!

>~Sandi