Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Because wholistic medicine recognizes the cause of disease is from disharmony it makes sense to clear negative emotional energy. I have been listening to a Carol Tuttle CD and she uses rapid eye movement to clear negative energy. I have a friend who did this with a lot of success and recommends it. If > > Someone wrote and asked me privately about depression yesterday. I thought I > would share this with the group since we are on cancer. We lost a dear > friend to colon cancer this year. She would not try alternatives. > > This woman was an incredible person who spent her life raising funds for my > school and Children's Defense Fund. She started community clinics for people > in poverty. She suffered from depression and took medication for it. > > There is brand new science out that found every neurotransmitter in your > brain is also in your gut. Most doctors don't even know this. It's discussed > at autism workshops because many of the children have gut issues. It > started me wondering if the medication she was taking for her brain was > stealing from her digestive/elimination system. > > I asked a fellow who raises money for cancer research (and knew her) if > anyone had ever researched if people on depression meds had a higher > incidence of cancer of the digestive/elimination systems? His response was > " that is a legitimate question, it won't get researched and you know why. " > > Depression can be a serious issue and I'm not saying people should throw out > their meds today, but if I personally had depression, I would change my diet > and seek out a holistic health professional to help me. The Pfeiffer > Treatment Center in Chicago has the largest database in the country on > mental health issues. They are expensive and insurance won't usually pay. > Dr. Wand houses their nurse at his clinic in Bloomington. I'm reading Real > Medicine, Real Health by Dr. Arden and he has some good information > on the Pfeiffer Center and mental health issues. > > Kathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Before we leave this cancer discussion (which I think is one of the most food-related topics we could discuss).... I'm DEPRESSED about the state of cancer therapy in the US. Even more depressing is how bamboozled the majority of Americans actually are. They actually believe the " good news " hogwash being doled out by the government and cancer societies. They can't see through the thin magician's veil over the cooked-book " scientific " studies. Any person making a conscious choice to take the reins of their own therapeutic plan is treated like a PARIAH by their friends, family and the entire medical community. Families will take out bank loans to fund your chemotherapy (and subsequent funeral) but will cut you off and write you out of the will if you choose to follow " the suicide path you are on " . My PERSONAL FEELINGS are as follows 1) We can ALL cite a case or two of people who got better from a cancer diagnosis with the conventional approach, giving power to the notion that our thoughts and expectations can overpower anything. So can prayer. And good for them. So can people get better who never had cancer in the first place (misdiagnosis). We don't talk about that. 2) Everyone here has an uncle that smoked 6 packs a day, drank a gallon of whiskey a day and lived to be 100. But, you would be a FOOL to follow their example and expect the same results. Yet, the point is, when you get right down to numbers I've seen 100X more friends and relatives go down the tubes on conventional medicine and the only real survivor numbers I've seen come from natural cure (please don't call it " alternative " it's just real) 3) Modern cancer therapy, to me, is LOST. I WOULD NEVER DO IT NOR RECOMMEND IT A) Oncologists are more interested in " cure " ($$$$$$$) than prevention (0$) Virtually all research $$$ is to find the " magic bullet " cure to sell ($$$$$) ---Try to get a real nutrition/cancer study funded (vs. a stem cell grant, say) C) They are hardly curing anyone. The ones that get better either did it with their thoughts and prayers OR never had cancer in the first place (misdiagnosed) D) Almost all the studies that show improvement in cure rates are manipulated figures E) They throw out 5 years as a " survivor " and then you are off the books F) Early detection makes it appear that you lived longer G) Most detection techniques either cause or spread the cancer (xrays, needle biopsies exploratories, lumpectomy, bulk reduction, mastectomy, node removal, mammogram) H) They paint your diagnosis bleak. That way if you live they take credit, if you die they brag about how accurate and smart they are. I) the only people they are " curing " have a simpler cancer like leukemia, they zap that then many of these people die of a hideous deep cancer after the 5 year survivor category window. J) Worst of all, they rob you of hope, rape your mind of any chance of survival and usually cause the patient to die right on their doomsday schedule. K) Likewise, they will do everything in their power to undermine your interest or desire in nutrition, herbs, homeopathy, or other self cures (the Brunetti way). By poo-pooing methodologies they know nothing about they destroy your hope. L) Successful programs in other countries like Denmark, Sweden, Germany, England, and even countries like Mexico and Caribbean islands. M) Hospital Food. Need I say more? 4) Because of the items I listed about, I would NEVER give money nor support such bogus organizations as the American Cancer Society, the Breast Cancer Foundation or other similar organizations. Most of the billions they've squandered goes to fat cat executives anyway, but the rest just goes to research looking for magic bullets and stupid high-tech cures that will never be available to anyone other than the rich. 5) As proof, cancer death rates are SKYROCKETING in the US. By 2020, perhaps sooner, it will become the #1 killer in the US. OK, I feel beter now, shall we get back to the other forms of DEPRESSION? WILL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2006 Report Share Posted June 30, 2006 Interesting, especially when you think that lots of kids on Ritalin have no appetite and have to periodically have a " med vacation " in order to catch up on their eatting and growing. Lynn > > There is brand new science out that found every neurotransmitter in your > brain is also in your gut. Most doctors don't even know this. It's discussed > at autism workshops because many of the children have gut issues. It > started me wondering if the medication she was taking for her brain was > stealing from her digestive/elimination system. > > I asked a fellow who raises money for cancer research (and knew her) if > anyone had ever researched if people on depression meds had a higher > incidence of cancer of the digestive/elimination systems? His response was > " that is a legitimate question, it won't get researched and you know why. " > Kathy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2008 Report Share Posted January 31, 2008 Al, Magnesium for major depression: http://george-eby-research.com/ see the articles on the left side. Pat albertrhurt wrote: Although I have been in remission for several years lately depression has been one of the major factors in fighting this disease. Other than lack of natural vitamin D, is there some help out there on the board through natural methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Maybe you are lacking in nutritional good fats. Raw avocados, raw nuts, raw milk, raw coconut meat, raw durian. You can even get raw fat or cooked fat of organic cows from the fats of steaks, bone marrow, brain. albertrhurt wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Although I have been in remission for several years lately depression > has been one of the major factors in fighting this disease. Other than > lack of natural vitamin D, is there some help out there on the board > through natural methods. > > Thanks, > > Al > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Hi: You need to rush out and find The Omega 3 Connection by L. Stoll, M.D. ,Director Psychopharmacology Research Laboratory, McLean Hospital Faculty, Harvard Medical School. Stoll offers a lot of evidence about Omega-3 being of great benefit in depression control. Additionally, let me suggest that having cancer is an assault on our body and mind and in due time, when you begin to take control of your own care you will begin to overcome this state of depression. Using the works of people such as Stoll will help you do this naturally. Try Amazon for a good buy on this book. This could very well be another tool in your battle over cancer as well as giving your brain what it needs to make depression a thing of the past for you. Good luck, Joe C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 In a message dated 2/1/08 8:14:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, limos99@... writes: > EFT is really good for all emotional and physical issues Can you please refresh the sequence for tapping? I haven't done it in a long time and I forgot what the pattern is. Also, is there EFT for dogs and if so, what is the tapping pattern? Thanks, ************** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300000002\ 548) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Al Step outside and stay there. The sunshine and fresh air will provide you with lots of vitamin D. Also, use fish oil. GB > > Hi everyone, > > Although I have been in remission for several years lately depression > has been one of the major factors in fighting this disease. Other than > lack of natural vitamin D, is there some help out there on the board > through natural methods. > > Thanks, > > Al > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Hi AL: I would just mention to you that we use depression to name a whole bunch of feelings...Why are you depressed? How do you know you are depressed? Are you sad? tired? without illusion? No motivation? Are you scared, or are you angry at having had to go thru whatever life has given you? So I would first see what I feel and then look remedies up. I think 2 things that can really help out are Flower essences and EFT. EFT is really good for all emotional and physical issues, I started doing it because of my relapse for breast cancer...and it has really worked well. There is an EFT site at http://www.emofree.com Take a look at it, maybe it can help you. I still think however, or biggest problem is we address illnesses as entities in themselves, and not people going thru a process.. So if you can figure out what you call depression and where it is coming from, maybe you can get relief from it in a way that suits you... I do not believe everything suits evryone.. That is my opinion . HOpe some of it may help you a bit. Lil > albertrhurt wrote: >Although I have been in remission for several years lately depression has been one of the major factors in fighting this disease. Other than lack of natural vitamin D, is there some help out there on the board through natural methods. Thanks, Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Hi, Al. By no means do I mean to read your mind, nor do I mean any harm or insult by what I am going to say. If the shoe fits, wear it. If it does not, and it certainly may not, as there are certainly depressed people whom it would not fit, then it is still worth knowing. I suffered from depression for many years, and I know, certainly, that a goodly portion of the depression came from being much too concerned about myself---from being too self-absorbed, from not caring enough about others, not reaching out to other people and not trying to do enough good for others. Obviously, Al, I have no idea in this world what is going on with you, who you are, where you live, who you live with, etc, etc. So again, it is not a diagnosis, much less an accusation I am making. It is simply stating something I have found was true in myself and that I believe is true for many other depressed or otherwise mentally affected people. Something else: There is a direct link between depression and cancer: That is, depression can help to cause cancer. Why? Because depression depresses not only a person's thoughts; it also depresses his immune system. Furthermore, it depresses his breathing, and we know that a body that is not sufficiently oxygenated is more likely to develop cancer than one that is. Finally, a depressed person tends to be more sedentary and to exercise less than someone who is not depressed, so there is less lymphatic flow in a depressed person. Too often alternative health people immediately begin recommending this herb or that food to counteract depression, without any consideration regarding the personality and behavior of the person who is depressed. Again, if this is of any help, wonderful. If it is not, I still think it is something worth knowing. Best wishes and best of health, Elliot > Although I have been in remission for several years lately depression > has been one of the major factors in fighting this disease. Other than > lack of natural vitamin D, is there some help out there on the board > through natural methods. > > Thanks, > > Al > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 Also St 's Wort is great. Re: [ ] Cancer and Depression Al, Magnesium for major depression: http://george-eby-research.com/ see the articles on the left side. Pat albertrhurt wrote: Although I have been in remission for several years lately depression has been one of the major factors in fighting this disease. Other than lack of natural vitamin D, is there some help out there on the board through natural methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 I'm a colon cancer survivor (Stage 4) and would not have made it if it weren't for all of people who's livesI've touched. I also have a full time job as a Recruiter and it is very demanding of my time. What I do is help sick people in our neighborhood by taking them food, going to the kids' games, recitals and activities and this makes them really love and appreciate me. Believe it or not, I never got depressed while going thru the cancer and chemo ordeal, which lasted for 9 months. Now, I have a very bad case of neuropathy in both feet and even with this, I'm not depressed. I thank God every day for being alive and it's the small things you do for people that makes a difference. The best therapy in the world for any illness is to surrounded by people who care about you. I live in Georgia and most of my family lives in other cities. My neighbors and co-workers are my substitute family and I consider them to be my angels. Just try to reach out to others and it will make your life happier. Joyce From: Al Hurt Thanks for the advice. I do not have a whole lot of time on my hands to do volunteer work. I get up at 5:00 am in the morning and go to work at 6:30. I return home at 5:30 in the evening and exercise a little, make dinner and go to sleep at 9:00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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