Was milk thistle, Ave, Kinoki foot pads now foot baths

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I did some research on the foot baths and, if it is the same idea as what I

looked at, the

baths are a scam. There is as homeopath in my neighborhood and I went to her to

ask her

about the foot baths as she offers them. She said the change in colour in the

bath

happens even without you putting your feet in it -- so certainly they are not

toxins that

have been extracted from your body.

She puts some herbs in, however, which she says help. She says it is the herbs,

not the

bath, that is the treatment she offers.

Marti

>

> As for the foot pads, it is interesting that you mention them. Not

> long ago I would have been very dubious about removing toxins through

> the feet. But in fact, right now, my wife and her mother are in

> Missouri working with a nurse practitioner who removes toxins from

> her clients by having them put their feet in a kind of water bath.

> Both my wife and her mother are noticing significantly positive

> results from the procedure. So it may well be that those foot pads

> can remove toxins.

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Elliot

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Marti.

I appreciate your post. Actually, I believe it has saved me the

trouble and expense of joining my wife and her mother-in-law in

getting these foot baths and other services from the person who is

working on the two of them. Here are two links, one to a page of

sites that are mainly supportive of the foot baths as a detox, and

one to a page of sites that show the foot baths are a scam:

http://tinyurl.com/24p5ta

http://tinyurl.com/ywqvpo

When I first heard about the idea of " detoxing throught the feet

using a foot bath, " my gut reaction was " Ridiculous! " But when my

brother-in-law lost some 40 pounds over 3-4 months or so, and since I

knew he had done the foot baths and other things at this particular

practitioner's, I began to think maybe the foot baths were something

real.

Now, after reading what can happen to water that has iron in it

through which electrodes are passing, and in which the feet are

immersed, I am back to thinking the " detox " foot baths are a fake.

Thanks, Marti, for bringing me back to my senses! Much appreciated!

Oh---that leads me to believe the " detox " socks or booties Margie

asked about are also of no value.

Best wishes,

Elliot

[Guest guest]

Well said Loretta. We're all so different which is why we can't all

have a one-size-fits-everyone plan, unfortunately. I've done things

along my journey that many would balk at, but I'm healing. Even my

traditional doc says whatever it takes,if it works, do it.

It's true that the water can change color without feet in it, the

water color also varies geographically with no feet in it.

However, I used 2 different foot baths weekly for almost 2 years. I

have taken pictures of many of the sessions - the oil slick, gunk,

foamy disgusting garbage that came out of me was definitely toxins of

some sort. Many times I could smell them as well. Those, along with

weekly FIR sauna, lymphatic drainage and other protocols, helped me

dump the garbage and get strong again. As my health changed, so did

the water, for the better.

I'm a bit of a data nerd so I asked a very well-known lab to do a

study with me. I took samples of the water prior to putting my feet

in, then again at 30- and 60-minute intervals with feet in the water.

They verified heavy metals which increased from the 30- to 60 minutes.

We actually wanted to do extensive testing but getting the criteria

set up was difficult as doctors didn't want to indicate why their

patients were using them, if they were taking meds that would affect

the results, etc.

I've also done same-day sessions where I've dunked my feet, hands, and

breasts and what came out in the water was different for all 3.I can

feel a pulling sensation everytime I use it.

I've used about 5 different kinds of footbaths and I can only vouch

for 2 of them - the others just released colored watered and were not

very powerful in my opinion. I know of people who have had

less-than-desired experience with cheaper models of these especially

if they're not grounded properly.I know folks who are charging

horrendous prices for these and all I can say to that is shame on

them, I've never paid more than $25 or $30 per session.

cathy

-- In , " Dr. Loretta Lanphier "

<drlanphier@...> wrote:

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> Sorry, but I must disagree.

>

> Just because something cannot be explained does not mean it is

quackery. In

> fact a lot of natural medicine modalities cannot be explained to

satisfy our

> supposedly superb " scientific " community. And this know-all scientific

> community is exact;u why our healthcare situation is the way it is

in the

> US.

[Guest guest]

Hi, .

I thank you also for your positive, experienced opinion on foot

baths. For me, real life experience related by people who have tried

a particular modality is of significantly more importance than on-

paper data or, certainly, opinions from " experts " who have never come

near that particular modality.

You said:

" Even my traditional doc says whatever it takes,if it works, do it. "

That is an apt expression, certainly. I also like one that goes, " If

you find yourself on a precipice,(let's liken that to when one

realizes mainstream medicine has nothing to offer, or nothing more to

offer), one has no choice but to jump,(launch oneself into the world

of alternative treatment.)

But none of us has unlimited time and unlimited resources. Very few

of us can say money is no object.

Therefore, this board is invaluable, in my opinion for its value in

helping members determine which are the best healing modalities to

try, which modalities work best, and even where they can get the best

value for their money when pursuing a particular treatment.

Again, a negative opinion about a particular treatment should not be

viewed as a general attack on alternative medicine. It is an

excellent thing for all of us, I believe, for us to be able to

compare data and opinions on any particular treatment.

Thanks again,

Elliot

[Guest guest]

Actually I can vouch for 3 of them, but 2 of them are from the same

manufacturer, just a different generation of machine. The ones I've

used successfully are the original BioCleanse, Erchonia, and

IonCleanse. It doesn't mean there aren't other good ones out there,

but the cheap ones just don't cut it.

cathy

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> ..which ones do you vouch for after your study?

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