Guest guest Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 PolyMVA increases ATP levels in normal healthy cells. It does this by donating electrons from the palladium to the mitochondrial inner membrane In cancer cells it still donates the electrons, but there is not enough oxygen at the end of the chain for the synthesis of ATP. This results in membrane damage and leakage of cytochromes causing lysing in high doses and apoptosis in lower doses. This might be facilitated by taking coq10 along with the PolyMVA Avemar should be ok with Protocel and paw paw in that Avemar inhibits glyconeogenesis and helps block cancer cells from using glucose as fuel. This would complement the other two products since they collectively inhibit both glycolysis and oxidative phosphorylation. (A pretty good trio for cutting cancer cell energy.) Mike jrrjim wrote: > > ??? I believe you must have read Mike's post incorrectly. Artemix > should NOT interfere with PolyMVA and it does not affect ATP levels. > (Does PolyMVA itself deal with lowering ATP levels? I wasn't aware of > that. Ah -- it appears to me, that if anything, it raises ATP levels. ) > > You were making a bit of a mistake admininistering artemix non-stop. > You are right to " pulse " artemix -- 5 days on and 5 days off, or > thereabouts. The body rapidly builds up a tolerance to it -- or > rather, the gut stops absorbing it relatively quickly, and you have to > give the gut a rest. > > You also need to do other things to increase the potency of artemix. > From what I have read, it is best to take it with " Butyrate " and > probably some coconut oil. But otherwise the stomach should be empty > so that the artemix does not interact with iron in any food in the > stomach. > > Artemix works best on " high iron " cancers -- most notably colon cancer > and leukemia. It might not work so well on cancers with lower amounts > of iron in them. > > Ah again -- PolyMVA is apparently a " super anti-oxidant " . It's ORAC > value appears to be extremely high. This means that it might strongly > interfere with artemix, if both are in the system at the same time. > I'm not aware of the half-life of PolyMVA in the body, but if it is > there in large doses when you are administering the Artemix, you may > be cancelling out the effect of the artemix. > > Hmmm... but I guess it is unclear which antioxidants may interfere > with artemix. There is some disagreement on this -- some doctors say > that all antioxidants do, while others say only vitamin e would. But > if vitamin e does, then alpha lipoic acid probably does to, and > PolYMVA, which is alpha lipoic acid combined with palladium, very well > might render artemix useless too. > > Anyone else have any feedback on this? > > I'm not fully up on CellAdam, but I doubt it affects ATP levels. Same > with Avemar -- an immune boosting substance that should have no effect > on ATP levels. PawPaw definitely lowers ATP. > > > > > > Oh no. Maybe that's why things are worse. Actually, now her Artemix > is 1 week on 1 week off (after being on total of 8 full weeks > continuously). Maybe I should stop Artemix completely and just keep > her on PolyMVA. What do you think? > > > > I am also looking into CellAdam, Avemar and Pawpaw & / Protocel > (which I know it's not compatible with alpha-lipoic acid and that > means I have to stop PolyMVA). Does anyone has any experience or > advice on this? Thank you so much. > > > > HP > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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