Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Lois: I for one would love any and all information. Vic _______________________________ From: Lois Fischer Sent: Thu, February 17, 2011 I have an alternative cancer survivor (or thriver) story and would love to share what I have done and what I am doing right now to prevent it coming back. Let me know if anyone is interested in my story and if I can help anyone. Lois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Lois.....Congratulations on your success. Please post your story . Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Always interested in hearing successful stories On Feb 17, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Lois Fischer wrote: > I have an alternative cancer survivor (or thriver) story and would love to share what I have done and what I am doing right now to prevent it coming back. > > Let me know if anyone is interested in my story and if I can help anyone. > > Lois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Hi and welcome! I was dx multiple myeloma,('incurable'), stage 3. June 6, 2009. After 3 cycles of Velcade the onc said was unsuccessful, I had a stem cell transplant which went very well. I am on the Budwig diet, not 100%) and on nutrition shakes which claim to have stopped cancer in a few people I have talked with. There is a man on the list who has same and is a 15 year survivor - Emerson, who now has 2 or 3 websites (People Beating Cancer) and he has shared many good and useful experiences. I would like to know what your journey is. Joan Archibald On Feb 17, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Lois Fischer wrote: > I have an alternative cancer survivor (or thriver) story and would love to share what I have done and what I am doing right now to prevent it coming back. > Let me know if anyone is interested in my story and if I can help anyone. > Lois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Hi Joan: The nutrition shakes, what are those? I was tested for my omega 3 levels and although had been doing the Budwig Diet with the flax seed oil, it showed very low and that the flax seed oil was not right for my body. I am now doing one tablespoon a day of fish oil. My dr said that some people cannot digest the flax seed oil well or metabolize it, something like that. I do believe that our bodies having cancer are in a state of degeneration and when I started this program I am on for prevention, my dr has tested me for the correct diet, supplements, and detox which are crucial for my recovery. I really think before I found out about this program the Budwig Diet was helpful in keeping me alive. Although I was not able to digest the oil, the cottage cheese was a good protein and the other parts of the diet were helpful. Until you know what metabolic type you are, it is possible to make your cancer worse by not eating what your body needs. Wolcott has a book called Metabolic Typing Diet, that I found very helpful after I found out what diet I needed to eat. I do well on a mixed diet and my dr is able to test very easily through hair analysis. Someone on a vegetarian diet could well be a meat eater according to their metabolic type, would not be supporting their body and the cancer would not get resolved, so it is important to know your body needs. The hair analysis also tests for low levels of supplements and condition of each organ, pretty amazing I think!!! What is multiple myeloma, without me having to look it up? Lois From: joanarchiba Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 Hi and welcome! I was dx multiple myeloma,('incurable'), stage 3. June 6, 2009. After 3 cycles of Velcade the onc said was unsuccessful, I had a stem cell transplant which went very well. I am on the Budwig diet, not 100%) and on nutrition shakes which claim to have stopped cancer in a few people I have talked with. There is a man on the list who has same and is a 15 year survivor - Emerson, who now has 2 or 3 websites (People Beating Cancer) and he has shared many good and useful experiences. I would like to know what your journey is. Joan Archibald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 what kind of testing was done to determine all this? By what kind of doctor? On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Lois Fischer <LoisFischer46@...>wrote: > > > Hi Joan: The nutrition shakes, what are those? I was tested for my omega 3 > levels and although had been doing the Budwig Diet with the flax seed oil, > it showed very low and that the flax seed oil was not right for my body. I > am now doing one tablespoon a day of fish oil. My dr said that some people > cannot digest the flax seed oil well or metabolize it, something like that. > > I do believe that our bodies having cancer are in a state of degeneration > and when I started this program I am on for prevention, my dr has tested me > for the correct diet, supplements, and detox which are crucial for my > recovery. I really think before I found out about this program the Budwig > Diet was helpful in keeping me alive. Although I was not able to digest the > oil, the cottage cheese was a good protein and the other parts of the diet > were helpful. Until you know what metabolic type you are, it is possible to > make your cancer worse by not eating what your body needs. Wolcott > has a book called Metabolic Typing Diet, that I found very helpful after I > found out what diet I needed to eat. I do well on a mixed diet and my dr is > able to test very easily through hair analysis. Someone on a vegetarian diet > could well be a meat eater according to their metabolic type, would not be > supporting their body and the cancer would not get resolved, so it is > important to know your body needs. The hair analysis also tests for low > levels of supplements and condition of each organ, pretty amazing I think!!! > > What is multiple myeloma, without me having to look it up? > > Lois > > From: joanarchiba > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 > > Hi and welcome! > I was dx multiple myeloma,('incurable'), stage 3. June 6, 2009. After 3 > cycles of Velcade the onc said was unsuccessful, I had a stem cell > transplant which went very well. I am on the Budwig diet, not 100%) and on > nutrition shakes which claim to have stopped cancer in a few people I have > talked with. There is a man on the list who has same and is a 15 year > survivor - Emerson, who now has 2 or 3 websites (People Beating > Cancer) and he has shared many good and useful experiences. > I would like to know what your journey is. > Joan Archibald > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Hi: Testing was hair analysis by a medical dr. Dr. in New York, website dr-gonzalez.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Vic, please advise what kind of special Vit C. Where to get it? What kind of cancer that your wife had? Thanks. Jim In a message dated 2/18/2011 9:26:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, roadmst1@... writes: Lois: My wife was taking the flax seed as well, her alternate doctor told her to stop and use 5,000 mg of fish oil instead along with a dry vitamin E. He also told her to use a special vit C in equal amounts. A month later her cancer markers fell to a normal level. The alternate doctor told my wife flax is the wrong kind of omega 3 and that she needed animal omega 3, not plant omega 3. Thank you for your story, I saved it just in case. I do know of Dr. and his work. My wife's doctor has a doctorate of nutrition and said the plant omega 3 would deplete the body of animal omega 3. Your story is consistent with this. I am so glad for your post as I was questioning the advice of our alternate doctor on this point. Vic ________________________________ From: Lois Fischer <_LoisFischer46@..._ (mailto:LoisFischer46@...) > " _ _ (mailto: ) " <_ _ (mailto: ) > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 2:57:46 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Hi I am just joining. Hi: Testing was hair analysis by a medical dr. Dr. in New York, website dr-gonzalez.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Lois: My wife was taking the flax seed as well, her alternate doctor told her to stop and use 5,000 mg of fish oil instead along with a dry vitamin E. He also told her to use a special vit C in equal amounts.  A month later her cancer markers fell to a normal level. The alternate doctor told my wife flax is the wrong kind of omega 3 and that she needed animal omega 3, not plant omega 3. Thank you for your story, I saved it just in case. I do know of Dr. and his work.  My wife's doctor has a doctorate of nutrition and said the plant omega 3 would deplete the body of animal omega 3. Your story is consistent with this. I am so glad for your post as I was questioning the advice of our alternate doctor on this point.     Vic ________________________________ From: Lois Fischer <LoisFischer46@...> " " < > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 2:57:46 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Hi I am just joining.  Hi: Testing was hair analysis by a medical dr. Dr. in New York, website dr-gonzalez.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Hi Jim : Ovarian cancer. I get it from a naturalpath, I tried to get it online but was not sucessful. I may try again. http://www.perque.com/test/dev/uploads/potent%20C.2Color_9-09WEB.pdf This may be an alternative http://www.nowfoods.com/Products/M101112.htm Vic ________________________________ From: " jpking@... " Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 Vic, please advise what kind of special Vit C. Where to get it? What kind of cancer that your wife had? Thanks. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 Thanks. In a message dated 2/18/2011 11:44:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, roadmst1@... writes: Hi Jim : Ovariancancer. I get it from a naturalpath, I tried to get itonline but was not sucessful. I may try again. _http://www.perque.com/test/dev/uploads/potent%20C.2Color_9-09WEB.pdf_ (http://www.perque.com/test/dev/uploads/potent%20C.2Color_9-09WEB.pdf) This may be an alternative _http://www.nowfoods.com/Products/M101112.htm_ (http://www.nowfoods.com/Products/M101112.htm) Vic ________________________________ From: " _jpking@..._ (mailto:jpking@...) " Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 Vic, please advise what kind of special Vit C. Where to get it? What kind of cancer that your wife had? Thanks. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Hi Vic: Well that is good to hear that your wife is doing well. It might have something to do with how well you can digest the flax oil. My dr said something about the long chains in the flax oil that I could not digest. I trust my drs completely so did not question anymore as I had so many other questions. Glad to hear that I am not the only one. Who is your alt dr? Sounds good. How bad was your wife's cancer? What sort of cancer? Lois From: roadmst1@... Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:34:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [ ] Hi I am just joining. Lois: My wife was taking the flax seed as well, her alternate doctor told her to stop and use 5,000 mg of fish oil instead along with a dry vitamin E. He also told her to use a special vit C in equal amounts. A month later her cancer markers fell to a normal level. The alternate doctor told my wife flax is the wrong kind of omega 3 and that she needed animal omega 3, not plant omega 3. Thank you for your story, I saved it just in case. I do know of Dr. and his work. My wife's doctor has a doctorate of nutrition and said the plant omega 3 would deplete the body of animal omega 3. Your story is consistent with this. I am so glad for your post as I was questioning the advice of our alternate doctor on this point. Vic ________________________________ From: Lois Fischer <LoisFischer46@...> " " < > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 2:57:46 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Hi I am just joining. Hi: Testing was hair analysis by a medical dr. Dr. in New York, website dr-gonzalez.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 From reading the works of Peskin, who wrote " The Hidden Story of Cancer " and who has numerous articles available on line: http://www.brianpeskin.com it is the omega-6 in the flaxseed oil in the Budwig diet, not the omega-3 which is so needed by the human body to recover from the condition that is causing cancer. Anyone interested in the cause of cancer, and remediation should, in my opinion, begin reading some of what Mr. Peskin has to say. Very briefly, the adulterated (oxygen disabled) commercial oils that are in almost all packaged, commercial foods, are what causes cancer via preventing the cell walls from bringing in enough oxygen to allow normal metabolism, thus pushing the cells into the secondary process, fermentation (by definition, cancer). Once these oils have taken the place of healthy omega-6 in the cell walls, it takes up to 18 weeks, depending on the type of cell, before a protocol of elimination of the adulterated oils (ruined omega-6) while administering organic sources of omega-6 via cold pressed oils, etc. before the oxygen transport mechanism can be restored to human cells. Nonetheless, no cell, once cancerous, will be cured. Its only via generation of new cells, replacing the old, dying cancer cells with vibrant ones, and the stopping of the process of cells becoming cancerous that will REDUCE the amount of cancer in the body and make you well. Since there is so much information put out by the fish-oil businesses promoting THAT source of omega-3 these days, and so much hype against omega-6, as a " bad fat " , I have a great deal of trouble ever convincing people that Peskin has anything new to offer on this subject. The only thing you need to understand to start with is that both the commercial oils put in all junk food and packaged food which is so unhealthy, AND the wonderful, health sustaining oils you may get from, say cold-pressed walnut, evening primrose, or even hempseed, are ALL containing omega-6 polyunsaturated fatty acids. The difference is in the oxygen transport mechanism. Everyone knows to avoid rancid oils. What we don't realize is that any oil that has a long shelf life is probably worthless and damaging. Avoid packaged and restaurant fried foods. Don't let people turn you off of omega-6 oils, or omega-6 from meat sources until you have at least read some of Peskin. He reads over 600 scientific studies per week, and stays on top of the effects of the fatty acid issue as it affects our health. > > Lois: > > My wife was taking the flax seed as well, her alternate doctor told her to stop > and use 5,000 mg of fish oil instead along with a dry vitamin E. He also told > her to use a special vit C in equal amounts.  A month later her cancer markers > fell to a normal level. The alternate doctor told my wife flax is the wrong kind > of omega 3 and that she needed animal omega 3, not plant omega 3. Thank you for > your story, I saved it just in case. I do know of Dr. and his work.  My > wife's doctor has a doctorate of nutrition and said the plant omega 3 would > deplete the body of animal omega 3. Your story is consistent with this. I am so > glad for your post as I was questioning the advice of our alternate doctor on > this point.     > > Vic > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lois Fischer <LoisFischer46@...> > " " < > > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 2:57:46 PM > Subject: RE: [ ] Hi I am just joining. > >  > Hi: > > Testing was hair analysis by a medical dr. Dr. in New York, website > dr-gonzalez.com. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Lois; My wife had (hopefully is it is had) ovarian cancer stage 3. I take my wife to Dr. Bergin, he used to work at the Cancer Treatment Centers of America but now works out of Dr. Mercola's office. He is good friends with Dr. Quillin who wrote the book " Beating Cancer with Nutrition " and may have even helped to write the book. Flax seed does not contain the same omega 3 as fish oil, the same holds true for vit B12, both are different. I was told the plant based omega 3 and plant B12 will deplete the animal based omega 3 and B12 from the body. I do not have the same level of trust and will seek many opinions, eduacte myself, and do my own research. This is the reason I am here, to learn from others. I want to know what is working for others, I want to know if I am doing all that needs to be done. Indeed I have picked up several things along the way to help from the kind folks on this list. I hope I too, have helped a tiny bit.  Vic ________________________________ From: Lois Fischer <LoisFischer46@...> " " < > Sent: Sat, February 19, 2011 7:39:35 AM Subject: RE: [ ] Hi I am just joining.  Hi Vic: Well that is good to hear that your wife is doing well. It might have something to do with how well you can digest the flax oil. My dr said something about the long chains in the flax oil that I could not digest. I trust my drs completely so did not question anymore as I had so many other questions. Glad to hear that I am not the only one. Who is your alt dr? Sounds good. How bad was your wife's cancer? What sort of cancer? Lois From: roadmst1@... Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:34:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [ ] Hi I am just joining. Lois: My wife was taking the flax seed as well, her alternate doctor told her to stop and use 5,000 mg of fish oil instead along with a dry vitamin E. He also told her to use a special vit C in equal amounts. A month later her cancer markers fell to a normal level. The alternate doctor told my wife flax is the wrong kind of omega 3 and that she needed animal omega 3, not plant omega 3. Thank you for your story, I saved it just in case. I do know of Dr. and his work. My wife's doctor has a doctorate of nutrition and said the plant omega 3 would deplete the body of animal omega 3. Your story is consistent with this. I am so glad for your post as I was questioning the advice of our alternate doctor on this point. Vic ________________________________ From: Lois Fischer <LoisFischer46@...> " " < > Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 2:57:46 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Hi I am just joining. Hi: Testing was hair analysis by a medical dr. Dr. in New York, website dr-gonzalez.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2011 Report Share Posted February 19, 2011 Greetings, May I have the isbn number of his book? Please. Bright Blessings, On 2/19/2011 9:23 AM, thurx wrote: > From reading the works of Peskin, who wrote " The Hidden Story of > Cancer " and who has numerous articles available on line: > > http://www.brianpeskin.com > > it is the omega-6 in the flaxseed oil in the Budwig diet, not the > omega-3 which is so needed by the human body to recover from the > condition that is causing cancer. Anyone interested in the cause of > cancer, and remediation should, in my opinion, begin reading some of > what Mr. Peskin has to say...... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Vic: It would be great if I could see Dr. Bergin's website. I have seen a lot of good things about Dr. Mercola, but do not know much about him. I have left all of my nutrition and preventative care in the hands of my trusted alternative drs in New York. Both Dr. and Dr. Isaacs have treated many cancer patients for over 20 years. He has had clinical trials done on his procedure. It works for those able to take the supplements, many cancer patients are too far gone and cannot do it. The regime needs to be followed so closely and to omit anything on the program will delay healing or jeopardize it. It is not for everyone. But for some reason, this program just jumps out to people who are just determined to have cancer gone from their bodies and it works. Whenever I talk to my dr she has my utmost care and wellbeing in mind and everything she has done for me is so perfect!!!! I just wish I had their care from the beginning and hope others will be inspired to just go to them as well. The peace of mind it gives you, that is priceless!!!!!! Great for you that you are doing your own research, and great going for your success with your wife's health. Lois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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