Beta Glucan

[Guest guest]

Hi Al,

I used beta glucan early in my illness for about 3-4 months. It was

moderately beneficial but I found I had to take quite large doses to get the

benefit. At the doses I was taking it was expensive. I think the price has

come down a lot during the past two to three years. It's definitely worth a

try. Steve B.

Beta Glucan

> Hi Everyone,

> Has anyone had any benefit from using an immune system supplement

called Beta Glucans? I know a patient of Dr. Cheney posted that he used it

but I don't have user comments on it.

> Thanks,

> Al

>

>

>

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Mike

I am the one taking the Beta Glucan. Dr. Cheney gave it to me to fight

off respiratory infections........worked OK, but not great for that.

But, I was supposed to take it before I got sick, so I would not get

sick, but I didn't. So taking it after you have the respiratory

infection, may not count.

Cheney did not mention the gut in relation to this, so it was a suprise

to me. Beta Glucan is a powerful immune stimulant, so who knows what

all it " works " on.

However, as I said, it helped IBS and whatever other gut ailments we

PWCs have. It is working great.....but I had the other problem, the

opposite of constipation. Just can't spell the d word. Anyway, when I

stop taking the Beta Glucan, all the gut problems come back within about

2 days.

I have been taking what is called

" IMMUTOL 425, made by ATIN, Inc, in Irvine Cal. Each cap has 425 mg,

and I take 2 caps AM and 2 caps PM.....on empty stomach. I think you

can get this from SunRay Supply.

You are not supposed to take this much all the time. After a month, you

are to drop back to a lower dosage with 100 mg caps....but I am not that

far along yet. I will look up exact instructions if you want.

I don't care though. I am going to take that much any way, since the

gut relief is sooooo

great. If you don't see me on the board again, blame it on the Beta

Glucan and say a prayer.

LOL.

Laurion

[Guest guest]

i have come to the conclusion that one must be pro-active in

addressing gut problems since they cause a chain reactions of

toxins and nutrient deficiencies ... if it starts and goes on too

long, it becomes like a fire so takes time to put out

i was lax about taking the d-olenate (olive leaf) for a while and it

dawned on me this week that if there is any hint of gastro intestinal

problems like gas, slight reflux etc, I need to address it as soon as

possible or else it causes a chain reaction of other events

I plan on using immutol to raise my NK function so maybe helps with

both

Fluffy

> Mike

>

> I am the one taking the Beta Glucan. Dr. Cheney gave it to me to

fight

> off respiratory infections........worked OK, but not great for that.

> But, I was supposed to take it before I got sick, so I would not get

> sick, but I didn't. So taking it after you have the respiratory

> infection, may not count.

>

> Cheney did not mention the gut in relation to this, so it was a

suprise

> to me. Beta Glucan is a powerful immune stimulant, so who knows

what

> all it " works " on.

>

> However, as I said, it helped IBS and whatever other gut ailments we

> PWCs have. It is working great.....but I had the other problem, the

> opposite of constipation. Just can't spell the d word. Anyway,

when I

> stop taking the Beta Glucan, all the gut problems come back within

about

> 2 days.

>

> I have been taking what is called

> " IMMUTOL 425, made by ATIN, Inc, in Irvine Cal. Each cap has 425

mg,

> and I take 2 caps AM and 2 caps PM.....on empty stomach. I think

you

> can get this from SunRay Supply.

>

> You are not supposed to take this much all the time. After a

month, you

> are to drop back to a lower dosage with 100 mg caps....but I am not

that

> far along yet. I will look up exact instructions if you want.

>

> I don't care though. I am going to take that much any way, since

the

> gut relief is sooooo

> great. If you don't see me on the board again, blame it on the Beta

> Glucan and say a prayer.

> LOL.

>

> Laurion

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Cliff, for your sane, calm, common-sense approach. I'd like to

see a lot more of us with that outlook. I think your views on stress and

its affect on healing is very accurate. Let's take a look at what really

works over the long haul in helping heal these cancers and nutritional

deficiencies and base our healing methods on these. Best wishes,

Cody.

Beta Glucan

> Hi,

>

> The farther I go, the more I appreciate and am beginning to love Don.

>

> He has really caused me to think, and I believe he will some more and we

> will learn.

>

> When He did the line study on my history he caused me to see something

that

> I had not seen before. He saw it, but I did not.

>

> Partly it was because I had been told that at low levels the differences

in

> PSA were not significant, and perhaps less than perfect techniques made

that

> true.

>

> I had not noticed that around nine months before I quit the Lupron aqnd

> Eulexin the PSA has already started a steady rise, with one little drop

> early with the rise continuing after that.

>

> That would indicate at least the possibility, if not probability, that I

am

> hormone refactory at least to a fair degree. Those cells that were

growing

> the last nine months I was on Lupron were growing in spite of the lupron

and

> Eulexin.

>

> Stress hurts the immune system. In late spring the PSA was dropping with

> the adjustments I had made and I felt good. Later when the stress kicked

in

> the PSA went back up which could well have been the result of weakening

of

> the immune system. Of course, advancing age also can do that.

>

> The spike to 40 on Aug. 21 was after a particularly rough time. That was

> when I went back to a couple of Lupron shots but did not block

Testosterone

> from the Adrenal glands.

>

> Sept 19 or so when I took the first Lupron shot I rechecked the PSA and

the

> count was already dropping. The stress was gone by that time. The

> assumptions were, based on previous expaerience, that since the PSA went

> down I am not refactory. That is not necessarily true. Right now I need

to

> go on the assumption I am refactory.

>

> I am learning about Beta Glucan. The same day as the first shot, I

started

> a strong source of Beta Glucan, Agaricus Blazei Murill. I had been told

> earlier that this source alone could drop the PSA by 10 points the first

> month. This is anecdotal. There are no studies finished. I have heard

> that studies are being done in Europe but know no more.

>

> I now understand that as we age the white Killer T cells and the other

cells

> of the immune system are just as numerous but " go to sleep " and no longer

> recognize and eliminate cancer cells.

>

> I understand from several sources, including Oncologists, that everyone

gets

> cancer every day but if the immune system is strong those cells are

> eliminated. That makes sense because when we are young and strong there

is

> not a high percentage of cancer development.

>

> The Beta Glucan is one of the compounds that " wakes up " the white blood

> cells and makes them able again to fight cancer.

>

> Plomp had a message on PHML I believe in which he stated that the

> effect only lasts 5 days.

>

> I have since learned why. It takes a huge amount of vitamin C, from 6,000

> to 10,000 mgs a day largely based on size to keep the Beta Glucan

effective.

>

> Is it possible that the combined effect of the Omega 3 in right ratio,

> enzymes and Beta Glucan might well control refactory Prostate Cancer?

> Especially without the devastation caused to the body by chemo? There are

> no tests. That has not been tried, but it seems logical from what I have

> seen.

>

> I do not believe at all that Dr. Myers findings apply to those of us who

are

> using the cottage cheese with the Flaxseed oil. I have seen enough myself

> to know it hasn't worked that way. If they do not apply no one would have

a

> thing to lose by adding Flaxseed oil to any standard treatment, and if

those

> antagonistic to it wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole, at least

> strongly consider Beta Glucan used correctly in sufficient quantity with

> high vitamin C.

>

> I plan to do all I am learning to do to keep the immune system strong.

> There will be no more Lupron shots. I will see whether 3 tablespoons of

> flax oil a day and a normal diet but low on sweets keeps the PSA from

> rising. If it does, fine. If not I will add the Beta Glucan and high

> vitamin C and test the results. Someone has to try to find out and the

> medical profession seemingly will not.

>

> I believe it is possible that the the combination dropped the PSA that

much

> in a month. Of course, there is no proof. I will have to find ways to

> prove that hypothesis as much as I can.

>

> If I were becoming refactory in 1994 and 95 as indicated by the rise

before

> leaving Lupron and Eulexin, I could well have been gone by this time

without

> the flaxseed oil instead of having all tests normal.

>

> I am not trying to contensious. I am trying to be objective and look at

> these possiblilities.

>

> Cliff

>

>

>

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From: " Ketan Soni " <ketan@...>

Date sent: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:00:11 +0100

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Subject: beta glucan

> Is it true that betaglucan is only fat soluble? We have been mixing the

> betaglucan with flax seed oil and cottage cheese but the taste is

> unbearable at the dose required for the day (3g per day). Are there any

> more suitable mixing alternatives that dilutes or even better removes the

> taste of beta glucan? I guess the alternative is to get the capsule form

> but for now I have the powder form. Also, what is the reason for taking

> it on an empty stomach? Is it for better absorbtion? Moonbeam, what is the

> composite of the beta glucan powder you sell? Is it 100% beta-1>6 glucan

> and beta-1>3 glucan or are there other components in the powder?

> Ketan

Hi,

You are on the wrong track with your concern over fat or water soluble

beta

glucan. A study found that by making a special form of water slouble beta

glucan, it

efficacy was improved only by about 20% compared to normal beta glucan.

If one simply took 20% extra regular yeast derived beta glucan the same

benifit would

lkely be obtained.

It is pointless to take beta glucan without taking lots of Vitamin C as

activated

macrophages need lots of vitamin C to funtion properly - ie to move and to make

cancer

killing chemicals.

May I ask who suggested you take the glucan mixed with flax oil?

I would simply make a homemade pinapple and paw paw (papaya) juice in my slow

speed

juicer and mix a few grams of beta glucan in that drink. Or I would simply mix

it in

orange juice or tomatoe juice.

It is better absorbed when taken on an empty stomach.

I am no longer interested in selling beta glucan to people on the list as

this could

be used to suggest I am biased, so I no longer show my website address.

My powder and caps are about 80% beta glucans. Usually with most

beta-1,3-glucans

there will be a small percentage (about 5%) of beta-1,6-glucan.

moonbeam

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Dear Moonbeam,

Please give us your websiteadress. Some people asked several times but I

never got your adress and I'm really interested in it.

Gr. Kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

beta glucan

> > Is it true that betaglucan is only fat soluble? We have been mixing the

> > betaglucan with flax seed oil and cottage cheese but the taste is

> > unbearable at the dose required for the day (3g per day). Are there any

> > more suitable mixing alternatives that dilutes or even better removes

the

> > taste of beta glucan? I guess the alternative is to get the capsule form

> > but for now I have the powder form. Also, what is the reason for taking

> > it on an empty stomach? Is it for better absorbtion? Moonbeam, what is

the

> > composite of the beta glucan powder you sell? Is it 100% beta-1>6

glucan

> > and beta-1>3 glucan or are there other components in the powder?

> > Ketan

>

> Hi,

> You are on the wrong track with your concern over fat or water

soluble beta

> glucan. A study found that by making a special form of water slouble beta

glucan, it

> efficacy was improved only by about 20% compared to normal beta glucan.

> If one simply took 20% extra regular yeast derived beta glucan the

same benifit would

> lkely be obtained.

> It is pointless to take beta glucan without taking lots of Vitamin C as

activated

> macrophages need lots of vitamin C to funtion properly - ie to move and to

make cancer

> killing chemicals.

> May I ask who suggested you take the glucan mixed with flax oil?

> I would simply make a homemade pinapple and paw paw (papaya) juice in

my slow speed

> juicer and mix a few grams of beta glucan in that drink. Or I would simply

mix it in

> orange juice or tomatoe juice.

> It is better absorbed when taken on an empty stomach.

>

> I am no longer interested in selling beta glucan to people on the list

as this could

> be used to suggest I am biased, so I no longer show my website address.

> My powder and caps are about 80% beta glucans. Usually with most

beta-1,3-glucans

> there will be a small percentage (about 5%) of beta-1,6-glucan.

>

> moonbeam

>

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Where can I buy beta glucan in Canada????

I really need some so I can start my son on it.

----Original Message Follows----

From: moonbeam@...

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cures for cancer

Subject: Re: beta glucan

Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:02:30 +1000

<cures for cancer >

From: " Ketan Soni " <ketan@...>

Date sent: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:00:11 +0100

Send reply to: cures for cancer

Subject: beta glucan

> Is it true that betaglucan is only fat soluble? We have been mixing the

> betaglucan with flax seed oil and cottage cheese but the taste is

> unbearable at the dose required for the day (3g per day). Are there any

> more suitable mixing alternatives that dilutes or even better removes the

> taste of beta glucan? I guess the alternative is to get the capsule form

> but for now I have the powder form. Also, what is the reason for taking

> it on an empty stomach? Is it for better absorbtion? Moonbeam, what is

the

> composite of the beta glucan powder you sell? Is it 100% beta-1>6 glucan

> and beta-1>3 glucan or are there other components in the powder?

> Ketan

Hi,

You are on the wrong track with your concern over fat or water

soluble beta

glucan. A study found that by making a special form of water slouble beta

glucan, it

efficacy was improved only by about 20% compared to normal beta glucan.

If one simply took 20% extra regular yeast derived beta glucan the same

benifit would

lkely be obtained.

It is pointless to take beta glucan without taking lots of Vitamin C as

activated

macrophages need lots of vitamin C to funtion properly - ie to move and to

make cancer

killing chemicals.

May I ask who suggested you take the glucan mixed with flax oil?

I would simply make a homemade pinapple and paw paw (papaya) juice in my

slow speed

juicer and mix a few grams of beta glucan in that drink. Or I would simply

mix it in

orange juice or tomatoe juice.

It is better absorbed when taken on an empty stomach.

I am no longer interested in selling beta glucan to people on the list

as this could

be used to suggest I am biased, so I no longer show my website address.

My powder and caps are about 80% beta glucans. Usually with most

beta-1,3-glucans

there will be a small percentage (about 5%) of beta-1,6-glucan.

moonbeam

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The cheapest source I know is at:

http://www.herbalhealer.com

Joy

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>

>Where can I buy beta glucan in Canada????

>I really need some so I can start my son on it.

>

>

>

>

>

>----Original Message Follows----

>From: moonbeam@...

>Reply-cures for cancer

>cures for cancer

>Subject: Re: beta glucan

>Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 10:02:30 +1000

>

> <cures for cancer >

>From: " Ketan Soni " <ketan@...>

>Date sent: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:00:11 +0100

>Send reply to: cures for cancer

>Subject: beta glucan

> > Is it true that betaglucan is only fat soluble? We have been mixing the

> > betaglucan with flax seed oil and cottage cheese but the taste is

> > unbearable at the dose required for the day (3g per day). Are there any

> > more suitable mixing alternatives that dilutes or even better removes the

> > taste of beta glucan? I guess the alternative is to get the capsule form

> > but for now I have the powder form. Also, what is the reason for taking

> > it on an empty stomach? Is it for better absorbtion? Moonbeam, what is

>the

> > composite of the beta glucan powder you sell? Is it 100% beta-1>6 glucan

> > and beta-1>3 glucan or are there other components in the powder?

> > Ketan

>

> Hi,

> You are on the wrong track with your concern over fat or water

>soluble beta

>glucan. A study found that by making a special form of water slouble beta

>glucan, it

>efficacy was improved only by about 20% compared to normal beta glucan.

> If one simply took 20% extra regular yeast derived beta glucan the same

>benifit would

>lkely be obtained.

> It is pointless to take beta glucan without taking lots of Vitamin C as

>activated

>macrophages need lots of vitamin C to funtion properly - ie to move and to

>make cancer

>killing chemicals.

> May I ask who suggested you take the glucan mixed with flax oil?

> I would simply make a homemade pinapple and paw paw (papaya) juice in my

>slow speed

>juicer and mix a few grams of beta glucan in that drink. Or I would simply

>mix it in

>orange juice or tomatoe juice.

> It is better absorbed when taken on an empty stomach.

>

> I am no longer interested in selling beta glucan to people on the list

>as this could

>be used to suggest I am biased, so I no longer show my website address.

> My powder and caps are about 80% beta glucans. Usually with most

>beta-1,3-glucans

>there will be a small percentage (about 5%) of beta-1,6-glucan.

>

> moonbeam

>

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Dear Kathleen:

I am a raw materials manufacturer and sell it in bulk powders. Check out my

website info. at

http://www.arrowheadhealthworks.com/

There is a 30% discount extended to verified cancer patients who are using beta

in their regimens with Vit.C to enhance Colony Stim.Factor

Dr.Bormann

****************

Kathleen Yow wrote:

> I've been reading posts for some time, but first time posting. I'm

> wondering who it is that sells beta glucan and how I go about ordering it in

> bulk. Thanks

>

> Kathleen Yow-Wells

>

>

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Dr. Bormann: I would like to purchase the beta glucan in bulk. Do I do

that through your website or directly from you? I was diagnosed with NHL in

March. I am in remission right now, but plan to stay on my present regimen

which will always be changing for the rest of my life! Thanks. Kathleen

Yow

Re: beta glucan

Dear Kathleen:

I am a raw materials manufacturer and sell it in bulk powders. Check out my

website info. at

http://www.arrowheadhealthworks.com/

There is a 30% discount extended to verified cancer patients who are using

beta

in their regimens with Vit.C to enhance Colony Stim.Factor

Dr.Bormann

****************

Kathleen Yow wrote:

> I've been reading posts for some time, but first time posting. I'm

> wondering who it is that sells beta glucan and how I go about ordering it

in

> bulk. Thanks

>

> Kathleen Yow-Wells

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I also have NHL. What is your regime? If you would like to call or write,

let me know. Thanks

Melody Corkhill

ncmanx@...

[Guest guest]

Dear Melody,

Maybe you could read the story of ms. Bruins, she cured with the help of a

diet, supplements and a change of lifestyle. See her story at my site:

www.kanker-actueel.nl/rem_sto.html and read story no. 13. There is written

what king of regime she followed.

Gr. Kees Braam

webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

Re: beta glucan

> I also have NHL. What is your regime? If you would like to call or

write,

> let me know. Thanks

> Melody Corkhill

> ncmanx@...

>

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My advice is to email or call Rita and buy MacroMax500. That is what I take. Rita's email is Rita.Hinkle@...

Or call her at 972-562-9303.

I have used several kinds and have settled on this one because of price and quality.

I take one in A.M and one in P.M. they are capsules. I recommend this for all on this group.

Ann

[Guest guest]

At the first sign of a cold or flu I take

1 gram of Solgar Beta Glucan and 2 grams of L-Lysine

every 2 or 3 hours for 1 day.

I never get sick if I do this!

dukeofchurchill3@... wrote:

>

> How do you take Beta Glucan to help with colds and flu's ?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Date sent: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 17:40:15 +0000

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Subject: Beta Glucan

> How do you take Beta Glucan to help with colds and flu's?

> Thanks,

>

Hi ,

When I posted info that about 75% of people got over

their

cold or flu in one day, that was conditional on the beta glucan being taken on

the

first day of the cold, not when it has been established for some days or a week.

In the latter case it lessens the severity of the cold but does not usually get

rid

of it in one day.

There are three ways to use beta glucan with a cold.

1. Take 1 or 2 gms with 4 to 6 gms vitamin C, on an empty stomach.

2. Place some powder in the mouth or gargle with glucan.

3. Dissolve some powder in in water and use it as nose drops each 3 hours.

Using all three methods together produces better results than just taking the

powder alone.

This is not some sort of promotion, nor medical advice, but advice that could

save

countless lives each year if it were followed.

The minimum acceptable standard is 75% to 80% beta glucan or better, one

company

sells 20% beta glucan so check the product is of a high percentage beta glucan,

not

just 20% grade.

Beta Glucan is not patented and many companies sell it, simply do an internet

search for a supplier. Some people on the list sell it for half price, only to

cancer patients, but check commercial prices through an internet search to

confirm

this.

Shitake (Lentinus Edodies) mushroom beta glucan is not orally available so

avoid

using Shitake or its extracts.

Agaricus Blazei, Reishei, Maitake, Coriolus Versicolor, Pleurotus Ostreatus, 10

or

6 mushroom combinations, are the main orally effective, beta glucan mushrooms.

In one animal trial that did not use vitamin C, Agaricus Blazei seemed to be

the

best anti cancer beta glucan mushroom as they could use less mushroom to remove

the

cancer, compared to other mushrooms.

Beta Glucan can also be derived from Bakers Yeast and because it is cheaper to

grow yeast than mushrooms, this form of beta glucan is mush cheaper than

mushroom

derived beta glucan.

Dr Mansell found tumors shrank in every patient when he used Yeast derived

Beta

Glucan. In some cases tumors were " strikingly reduced in size within five

days " ...

Dr Mansell, Jnl of National Cancer Institute 1975, 54: Pages 571-580.

moonbeam

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I'm taking Beta-1,3-D Glucan manufactured by A.J. Kanigan and distributed by

Immune Choice. I got it through my naturopath. I'm trying to fight a

staphylococcus infection and it's part of the protocol that my naturopath is

using. I don't know much about it, though. I do know that when I first

started using it I ran a fever of 102 the day after I started using it, but

it was just that one day, and my occasional afternoon low grade fever has

occurred since then, which I had before. I've been using it for about a week

now, and so far I haven't seen much of any difference other than that one

day of having the 102 fever.

lindaj@...

Beta Glucan

> I got a literature sample from Nature's Balance for a product they

> have called Macromax and it talks about their supplement Beta

> Glucan. I did a search at this site for any posts about Beta Glucan

> but did not find any so perhaps I'm the first? Does anyone else here

> know anything about Beta Glucan, aka " Beta 1,3 D-glucan " -- " a refined

> extract of saccharomyces cerevisiae (commonly known as Baker's yeast) "

>

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi .

First off, now that you have the test results indicating that you have

a serious mercury problem, I hope that your detox program provides you

with a lot of improvement. Keep us informed on how it goes.

Second, ImmuneSupport.com or Pro Health (same entity) sells Beta 1, 3

Glucan as an immune stimulator. I have tried it because my immune

function is so poor. I did not notice any benefit myself. But you

can get a description of what it's supposed to do at their web site.

Good Luck!

Tom

[Guest guest]

I don't really " know " anything about it, but my doctor, who tends to follow

this stuff, once recommended it for me when I had bronchitis and was trying

to avoid both pneumonia and antibiotics. He said not to take it long-term,

as it might (might, mind you, I don't think there's any research) make a

PWC's reactive immune system too strong and more reactive. I think he also

feared my body adjusting to it so it would be less effective, and useless in

an acute case such as I was having then. He also said most beta glucan

products were useless. The stuff I bought from him was very expensive (sorry

I don't remember the brand)--and I don't think he carries it anymore, so I

think perhaps he did not get good results from it with his patients, but I

can't swear to that. As for me, my bronchitis got worse and I had to go on

antibiotics after all. I later bought 2 bottles of the GNC brand, just for

the hell of it, and it did nothing for me or my family's regular winter

colds.

Beta glucan

Hello,

I keep running across Beta glucan in various places in regard to building

the immune system,

but it is one of the few things I have not tried. Anybody here tried it

with success?

Thanks,

Steve Du Pre

Webpage: http://www.angelfire.com/jazz/isaiah40soaringeagle/index.html

" By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

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hi group

years ago an alternative md had me on an expenisve beta glucagon

product to enhance my immmune system.

from the literature that comes with it, its also higly recommended to take

while on antibiotics( which i was on for part of the time on it ),

chemothearpy, helps for exposure to radiation etc.. " they claim "

i dont think i had any change while on it , though i tried it for many

months..

i tried the expensive brand and the cfids buyers club brand..

i stopped taking it as didnt feel it was helping.

my immune system at that time had very low or no natural killer cells and

always high igg levels when panels were taken.

somish.

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" cures for cancer " <cures for cancer >

From: " Cliff Beckwith " <cliffb865@...>

Subject: Beta Glucan

>Cliff Wrote:

>The price has jumped to $450.00 a kilo and she isn't able to handle it

>anymore.

>Cliff

Hi Cliff,

if you ever need Beta Glucan, I can supply it for US$300 per Kilo,

which includes express shiping.

I make no claims about Beta Glucan, but would like to pass on a letter I

recieved from a lady with

Lymphoma recently.

She writes: " I used Beta Glucan for five weeks. Before I started, I had a CD8

Blood test. Then again after

the five weeks. My helper T cells had increased. "

Of course that doesnt prove anything, but I post it just as additional

anecdotal information.

This is not the first person to have told me their immune status has improved,

according to their blood

tests.

best wishes,

moonbeam

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Hi,

I have been using Beta Glucan for quite awhile now at 3000 mgs a day plus

9000 mgs of Vitamin C to make it work.

I don't know what effect it has had on the cancer but I surely know that it

has beefed up my immune system. It is especially helpful on older people.

Fortunately I bought a kilo from Dr. Borman a short while ago. She then

wrote that a big company bought up 31 patents on it and it is no longer

available as it was.

The price has jumped to $450.00 a kilo and she isn't able to handle it

anymore.

Cliff

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" cures for cancer " <cures for cancer >

From: " Cliff Beckwith " <cliffb865@...>

Subject: Beta Glucan

>Cliff Wrote:

>The price has jumped to $450.00 a kilo and she isn't able to handle it

>anymore.

>Cliff

Hi Cliff,

if you ever need Beta Glucan, I can supply it for US$300 per Kilo,

which includes express shiping.

I make no claims about Beta Glucan, but would like to pass on a letter I

recieved from a lady with

Lymphoma recently.

She writes: " I used Beta Glucan for five weeks. Before I started, I had a CD8

Blood test. Then again after

the five weeks. My helper T cells had increased. "

Of course that doesnt prove anything, but I post it just as additional

anecdotal information.

This is not the first person to have told me their immune status has improved,

according to their blood

tests.

best wishes,

moonbeam

-----------------------

Hi,

I have been using Beta Glucan for quite awhile now at 3000 mgs a day plus

9000 mgs of Vitamin C to make it work.

I don't know what effect it has had on the cancer but I surely know that it

has beefed up my immune system. It is especially helpful on older people.

Fortunately I bought a kilo from Dr. Borman a short while ago. She then

wrote that a big company bought up 31 patents on it and it is no longer

available as it was.

The price has jumped to $450.00 a kilo and she isn't able to handle it

anymore.

Cliff

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these are insane prices!!!

you can buy it in pill form way way cheaper

solgar 200 mg tabs x 60 pills for 6 bucks.

moonbeam@... wrote:

>

> " cures for cancer " <cures for cancer >

> From: " Cliff Beckwith " <cliffb865@...>

> Subject: Beta Glucan

> >Cliff Wrote:

> >The price has jumped to $450.00 a kilo and she isn't able to handle it

> >anymore.

> >Cliff

>

>

> Hi Cliff,

> if you ever need Beta Glucan, I can supply it for US$300 per Kilo,

which includes express shiping.

>

> I make no claims about Beta Glucan, but would like to pass on a letter I

recieved from a lady with

> Lymphoma recently.

> She writes: " I used Beta Glucan for five weeks. Before I started, I had a CD8

Blood test. Then again after

> the five weeks. My helper T cells had increased. "

> Of course that doesnt prove anything, but I post it just as additional

anecdotal information.

> This is not the first person to have told me their immune status has

improved, according to their blood

> tests.

>

>

> best wishes,

> moonbeam

>

>

> -----------------------

>

> Hi,

>

> I have been using Beta Glucan for quite awhile now at 3000 mgs a day plus

> 9000 mgs of Vitamin C to make it work.

>

> I don't know what effect it has had on the cancer but I surely know that it

> has beefed up my immune system. It is especially helpful on older people.

>

> Fortunately I bought a kilo from Dr. Borman a short while ago. She then

> wrote that a big company bought up 31 patents on it and it is no longer

> available as it was.

>

> The price has jumped to $450.00 a kilo and she isn't able to handle it

> anymore.

>

> Cliff

>

>

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

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>

>

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these are insane prices!!!

you can buy it in pill form way way cheaper

solgar 200 mg tabs x 60 pills for 6 bucks.

moonbeam@... wrote:

>

> " cures for cancer " <cures for cancer >

> From: " Cliff Beckwith " <cliffb865@...>

> Subject: Beta Glucan

> >Cliff Wrote:

> >The price has jumped to $450.00 a kilo and she isn't able to handle it

> >anymore.

> >Cliff

>

>

> Hi Cliff,

> if you ever need Beta Glucan, I can supply it for US$300 per Kilo,

which includes express shiping.

>

> I make no claims about Beta Glucan, but would like to pass on a letter I

recieved from a lady with

> Lymphoma recently.

> She writes: " I used Beta Glucan for five weeks. Before I started, I had a CD8

Blood test. Then again after

> the five weeks. My helper T cells had increased. "

> Of course that doesnt prove anything, but I post it just as additional

anecdotal information.

> This is not the first person to have told me their immune status has

improved, according to their blood

> tests.

>

>

> best wishes,

> moonbeam

>

>

> -----------------------

>

> Hi,

>

> I have been using Beta Glucan for quite awhile now at 3000 mgs a day plus

> 9000 mgs of Vitamin C to make it work.

>

> I don't know what effect it has had on the cancer but I surely know that it

> has beefed up my immune system. It is especially helpful on older people.

>

> Fortunately I bought a kilo from Dr. Borman a short while ago. She then

> wrote that a big company bought up 31 patents on it and it is no longer

> available as it was.

>

> The price has jumped to $450.00 a kilo and she isn't able to handle it

> anymore.

>

> Cliff

>

>

>

> Get HUGE info at http://www.cures for cancer.ws, and post your own links there.

Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by

visiting htt

>

>

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About betagluca some websites etc.

> http://store./marcella75/be.html

>

> http://store./marcella75/bet.html

>

> http://store./marcella75/beta-glucan.html

>

> http://store./marcella75/betaglucan1.html

>

> http://store./marcella75/oatbetaglucan.html

>

> http://www.youngagain.com/betaglucan.html