Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Hi there, I have 2 nodules on my thyroid and the biopsy was inconclusive and the doctor recommended removing the thyroid, even though the thyroid is working well, the blood tests were within normal limits. I'm not thrilled about that, there has to be a better way... Has anybody been in the same situation, does anybody know if I can make these nodules shrink with natural products (vitamins, herbs, ???)? Any suggestions/help are highly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Hi, I don't know if this helps or not, but when I was 18 years old, during a routine college physical, they found something funny in my throat. They felt it and felt it and decided it was probably a nodule. So I went and got an MRI scan. I can't remember what happened next. The scan must have shown something, but I was too young to register exactly what that was (and far from home and my mother was ill with cancer, so I didn't bother her with it!). Anyway, it must not have been a big deal to have this nodule because I am still alive 25 years later! Probably doesn't help you, but I am fine and living with a nodule. Marti - " alea2709 " wrote: I have 2 nodules on my thyroid and the biopsy was inconclusive and the doctor recommended removing the thyroid, even though the thyroid is working well, the blood tests were within normal limits. I'm not thrilled about that, there has to be a better way... Has anybody been in the same situation, does anybody know if I can make these nodules shrink with natural products (vitamins, herbs, ???)? Any suggestions/help are highly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Be careful with removing the thyroid as I understand that it means that you will need to take a radiation tablet each day for the rest of your life. This can't be good! Yahweh bless Leea From: alea2709 I have 2 nodules on my thyroid and the biopsy was inconclusive and the doctor recommended removing the thyroid, even though the thyroid is working well, the blood tests were within normal limits.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 Leea, Nope. People without thyroids take thyroid hormones every day. They do not take radiation pills. ar On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:27:40 +1100, " The Ferris's " <ferris@...> said: > Be careful with removing the thyroid as I understand that it means that > you will need to take a radiation tablet each day for the rest of your > life. This can't be good! > > Yahweh bless > Leea > > From: alea2709 > I have 2 nodules on my thyroid and the biopsy was inconclusive and the > doctor recommended removing the thyroid, even though the thyroid is > working well, the blood tests were within normal limits.... > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2008 Report Share Posted February 15, 2008 I have never heard of a " radiation " pill. ?? I don't think there is such a thing. Yes, those with either no thyroid or low thyroid take either natural or synthetic thyroid tablets daily. It is easy to do---most people take just one a day. But removal of any bodily organ should, in my opinion, be done only as a last resort. And no supplemental thyroid is going to do as good a job as the natural stuff produced by the body. Then, too, taking thyroid medicine means periodically visiting the doctor for blood tests to get the amount of thyroid adjusted, and it means spending money for the rest of one's life buying thyroid medication. Finally, I always have at the back of my mind the thought: What if one day there is a catasrophe and pharmaceuticals are no longer available to buy? I am 56 years young, and currently am on no pharmaceuticals at all. I hope to be able to say the same thing in another 10 years, and another and another and another, etc. Best wishes, Elliot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Hi Elliot, Thank you for your input. Just to clarify a bit, the " inconclusive " means that from the sample tissue that they took they couldn't tell for sure that it was cancer, nor could they rule it out completely. From what I read, that happens occasionally, and in that case doctors get scared and try and cover their butts by just cutting out the " suspicious " growth. I trust that the human body has the innate ability to regenerate and heal itself, and, like you, I think surgery should be the last resort. Thyroid is an important organ, and I really don't like the idea of living on hormones from a box for the rest of my life. I live in Vancouver, Canada, can you recommend anybody, naturopath, acupuncturist, or any other kind of alternative medicine practitioner in this area that could help me? Thank you and be well breathedeepnow wrote: Hi, Alea. My opinion about surgery is that it should be a last, last, last resort. WHY was the biopsy " inconclusive " ? You paid for it. What went wrong?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 taken from http://www.endocrineweb.com/thyroidca.html 1.. About 4-6 weeks after the thyroid has been removed, the patient will undergo radioactive iodine treatment. This is very simple and consists of taking a single pill. The pill will contain the radioactive iodine in the dose that has been calculated for that individual. The patient goes home, avoids contact with other people for a couple of days (so they are not exposed to the radioactive materials), and that's it. 2.. A week or two after the radioactive iodine treatment the patient is started on a thyroid hormone pill. You can't live without thyroid hormone and since you don't have a thyroid anymore, the patient will take one pill per day for the rest of their life. This is very simple and a very common medication (example of drug names are: Synthroid, Levoxyl, Armour Thyroid, etc). Leea From: breathedeepnow I have never heard of a " radiation " pill. ?? I don't think there is such a thing. Yes, those with either no thyroid or low thyroid take either natural or synthetic thyroid tablets daily. It is easy to do---most people take just one a day. But removal of any bodily organ should, in my opinion, be done only as a last resort. And no supplemental thyroid is going to do as good a job as the natural stuff produced by the body. Then, too, taking thyroid medicine means periodically visiting the doctor for blood tests to get the amount of thyroid adjusted, and it means spending money for the rest of one's life buying thyroid medication. Finally, I always have at the back of my mind the thought: What if one day there is a catasrophe and pharmaceuticals are no longer available to buy? I am 56 years young, and currently am on no pharmaceuticals at all. I hope to be able to say the same thing in another 10 years, and another and another and another, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Hi, Arlyn. Certainly if I knew I was diagnosed with cancer, and I certainly if I could be 98% certain that surgery would cure me, I would not hesitate to have the surgery. That is a " no brainer. " I hope I did not play " Mr. Magoo " again here, but it had been my understanding that the doctor wanted to remove Alea's thyroid without knowing if it is cancerous or not. That is a BIG difference for me! :+)) I am saying I would NOT want my thyroid removed UNLESS I was just as positive as could be that there was cancer on or in it. Certainly taking a thyroid pill daily is simple. However, I disagree with you that " as long as there are pigs, we don't have to worry about there not being thyroid medication. We are living in terribly uncertain times, and it is not at all impossible that people who need thyroid medication could find, that due to a catastrophe, thyroid medication is not available. My bottom line: I will ONLY sacrifice a body part if I deem it ABSOLUTELY necessary, and ABSOLUTELY better than my other options. Best wishes and best of health, Elliot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Thanks Carol, I find your reply very encouraging. I understand that you still have your thyroid intact, is that correct? Were your biopsy results inconclusive as well? Why are you taking Thyrosol, was your thyroid not working correctly? Or you needed that to support it and keep the nodules in check? My doctor only sent me for blood tests for the TSH levels, which I feel is not enough, I really think she should've included at least T3/T4 levels in the requisition form... Your support and help is greatly appreciated. Thanks again. Alea CF <restlessnewjerseyan@...> wrote: Greetings: I also have nodules on both sides of my neck. I was told by my Endocrinologist that nodules can act like they are cancerous and NOT be cancerous. I was hoarse, had trouble swallowing, pain in the throat and exhausted but display none of that now, unless the stress gets great. I have ultrasounds done on a regular basis and I have had 3 biopsies on one nodule that is very vascular, about 3 cm. and therefore makes it hard to get good samples...I don't think I'll have anymore biopsies done tho at this point. I have been referred to a surgeon and he said that at times biopsies just don't tell it all and they just have to go in. He stated that he didn't even trust a frozen sample when done on the surgeon's table. He said that if he operated he would biopsy and send the samples off to be looked at and then come back to be opened up again to take out what was only necessary to take out. Apparently in India, where he came from, they take nodules out the size of baseballs or bigger and people live with them and watch them. I have taken a supplement that is called Thyrosol which seemed to keep my nodules from growing for the longest time and supported my thyroid under very stressful times and I saw my TSH numbers improve as well as my T3 and T4 numbers. My health has improved greatly and I would suggest that one makes sure their hormones are balanced, I was low on DHEA and adrenals were exhausted, eat properly and kill the stress as much as possible .. My next move is to get the blood test/s done that were suggested on this site and not worry til I have more conclusive results...try the Vitamin C infusions and get the mercury out of my mouth., I use to think I was going to die, not anymore. I use to think I would not get my thyroid out, I've changed that thinking too (as a last option I will)...medication one day will not be available for many diseases should the sky fall ) but I think the big pharma industry will do their best to keep up the lifesaving work they do LOL even if we can't find pigs! Warm regards, Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Arlyn- Some people on the Budwig protocol report the normalizing of their thyroids on the diet and being able to come off of the hormone. There are also many herbs that will treat either hypo or hyper-thyroidism. Google has a lot of good info. God put healing in the leaves, roots, flowers, and fruits of plants. Why settle for unhealth and dependance on prescription medicine? As for people without cancer telling people with cancer how to treat it, I've seen one of my husband's cousins in his 20's first fight brain cancer successfully allopathically, then his 2 year old son had cancer and when he died the father's brain cancer reoccurred and he died on the son's birthdate. In the meantime his wife had 2 more children and has had to raise them alone. Another of DH's cousins in her late 30's died of intestinal cancer. She tried some allopathic and some Mexican clinics using Laetrile. I saw my grandmother in the last stages of abdominal cancer looking like a death camp victim. One of my husband's aunts had bc which has gone to bone mets but still trusts her doctor. Another aunt more than 10 years ago was given a bad prognosis for lung cancer, and started Essiac tea, the tumors shrunk. 5 years later she had a tumor obstructing her intestines and had some allopathic intervention like surgery and either chemo or rads, but again took Essiac and MGN-3, and is still around. What could she have been like if she had done the Budwig protocol? What if they all had done it before they were ever diagnosed with cancer? My husband has been fighting this thing for 20 years. Am I qualified yet? How many people do I have to see die to want to join the struggle? On Feb 16, 2008, at 5:01 AM, Arlyn Grant wrote: > You missed MY point. I still have my thyroid. Not all of us have had > our thyroids removed. But we still need the hormone to live. My post > wasn't about having thyroids removed. It was about watching how you > say things. Until you live with thyroid disease, you really shouldn't > say > how you will feel about certain things. Don't we all hate it when > someone without cancer tells us how to treat it? > > You cannot live with thyroid disease (hypothyroid) without medication. > Believe me, many have tried. Someone may be able to control cancer > through diet and lifestyle changes. But they can't do that with > thyroid > disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Arlyn, My MIL had the radioactive isotope treatment and they did not just reduce the hormones but did kill her thyroid. Every now and then there are problems and she has to have the amount adjusted. I should tell you I don't trust allopathic doctors and their treatments at all. This is just an example of extreme stupidity and lack of knowledge of real (herbal) medicine to me. On Feb 16, 2008, at 5:20 AM, Arlyn Grant wrote: > Hi , > > Graves disease is an autoimmune disease. There are medications that > are > NOT radioactive isotopes that are more often used to treat Graves > disease or hyperthyroidism. The radioactive isotopes, if used, are > usually a one time thing. The goal is to kill the thyroid and make the > patient hypOthyroid -which always requires supplementation of thyroid > hormones. The reason this is done is that people who are hyperthyroid > actually have a higher risk of damage to the heart than people who are > hypothyroid. So, doctors prefer to treat the less dangerous disease. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 Bridget, I had nodules on my thyroid, that developed long after I had initial thyroid problems, that I believe were either toxic mold related and/or lyme - mold can definitely cause nodules. They did surgery in my case, because they thought it was cancerous. I have other ideas about things you could do prior to that point, if you want to talk sometime. I also know what it's like to get that feedback from the docs that you have nodules - scared me to pieces!! Also, I had the same kind of low numbers and Hashimoto's Disease that was missed for years. Take care, Cindi [ ] thyroid nodules So I just had an ultrasound of my thyroid, to rule out that before I have the lymes test done, and they saw nodules on my thyroid, could lymes cause that, or should I kind of think that might be causing all of my symptoms? I know lyme can cause low or high thyroid hormones, and my T3 and T4 were on the very low end of normal. Any thoughts? Thanks Bridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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