Guest guest Posted March 17, 1999 Report Share Posted March 17, 1999 Hello...You are absolutely kidding, $64!!! That is the best price I have seen!! Is there a way I can get it at that price?? JL oobadooba wrote: > > From: " oobadooba " <oobadooba@...> > > I buy it from myself,so it is 64.00 a box of 30 packets.,postage incl.Some > say to take a packet or two per day. I think it is about 40% more money, > otherwise. > [CFSFMSexperimental] immunocal > > >From: ne Kieffer <theocean@...> > > > >How much is everyone getting there immunocal for? JL > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Ta Da! Come see our new web site! > > > >Onelist: A free email community service > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 1999 Report Share Posted March 18, 1999 I buy it from myself,so it is 64.00 a box of 30 packets.,postage incl.Some say to take a packet or two per day. I think it is about 40% more money, otherwise. [CFSFMSexperimental] immunocal >From: ne Kieffer <theocean@...> > >How much is everyone getting there immunocal for? JL > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Ta Da! Come see our new web site! > >Onelist: A free email community service >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 18, 1999 Report Share Posted March 18, 1999 first, ne Kieffer <theocean@...> wrote: How much is everyone getting there immunocal for? JL " oobadooba " <oobadooba@...> wrote: I buy it from myself, so it is 64.00 a box of 30 packets.,postage incl.Some say to take a packet or two per day. I think it is about 40% more money, otherwise. NOW nancym asks: how do you buy it from yourself, are you a medical professional? because if you buy it from the immunocal website committing to a box a month for a year, it is $75.00/box. i have read BUNCHES on glutathione and unless some doctor gives me the glutathione shot, i am going with the immunocal. so oobadooba, how do you get it for less? nancy mcfadden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 1999 Report Share Posted March 19, 1999 In a message dated 3/19/99 12:54:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, theocean@... writes: > Can someone please help me > get this stuff cheaper? Hello Jl... Someone will answer soon... I know years back with a home based selling vitamin co. a group of us CFSers banned together and bought and set up... to get wholesale prices, for our group. This may be the case with Immunocal ! Talk soon.... Susydog.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 1999 Report Share Posted March 19, 1999 I am an entrepeneur/distributor for Immunocal and would be willing to sell at my cost for as long as I can.I stopped because it is time consuming,and I have trouble with fatigue..(DUH) and one person wanted a miracle cure from MS in a week,and wanted his money back.I do not get reimbursed with money from the company,so the cash refund came from my own pocket. I never make money off sick people,but I wanted to help....(The co reimburses me with more product,not money) I couldn't afford it..I am disabled and poor too....I would be willing to sell it at my cost to anyone who wants to try it,though... I do believe in the product..I believe I can still get it for 64.00,incl postage..I will need to check,but I do think it is the same as before.I bought several boxes in January,and I think the price I can get it for is still the same..Please anyone interested,email me directly with a fax number or address or I can try to send info email ,if I can.I am not good on this daggum computer.I will do what I can to help if I can. I love the product,but I do not guarantee it.. I have milk intolerances and some sort of allergies to milk and other foods,but I do fine on the Immunocal.Everyone is different..It is not an over night miracle cure.It helps your body heal itself,and will take awhile..You may notice changes within a few days..I did.....but I still have a long long way to go. I do know it is safe. I am slow,but will get back with you who email me about it. oobadooba@... [CFSFMSexperimental] Re: Immunocal >From: SUSYDOG@... > >In a message dated 3/19/99 12:54:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, >theocean@... writes: > >> Can someone please help me >> get this stuff cheaper? >Hello Jl... Someone will answer soon... I know years back with a home >based selling vitamin co. a group of us CFSers banned together and bought and >set up... >to get wholesale prices, for our group. This may be the case with Immunocal ! >Talk soon.... >Susydog.... > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Come check out our brand new web site! > >Onelist: Making the Internet intimate >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 1999 Report Share Posted April 2, 1999 I sell it at my cost to help out,but I do not know what postage would be to Australia. In USA I charge 5.00 postage..I think I can still get it for 64.00. I have some here with me,and can mail it ASAP Send me your address privately,if interested.....Do you have money orders or something American Banks will be able to cash? I don't know anything about it. Let me know when you find out everything. I would be glad to sell it at my cost if you can't find it anywhere closer to you or cheaper. Immunocal >From: n <jrobinso@...> > >I just read the Dr. Mazlen interview on Immunocal and it seem impressive >and not in conflict with other therapies, so I would like to try some. > >Can anyone tell me how I can buy some from Australia? > >Is it available in Australia? >Is it heavy to post? >Who sells it by mail order in the US? > >Thanks > > > >n >Tel/Fax +61-2-6239 6226 >Canberra, Australia > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! > >Onelist: ing connections and information exchange >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 1999 Report Share Posted April 6, 1999 n, here is what I can find. I buy it from a dealer in California, weird since I live on the east coast. Their website is http//www.immunocal.com Their address is Immunotec Research, 292 Adrien Patenaude, Vaudreuil-Dorion, Quebec, Canada J7V 5V5 514-424-9992 FAX 514-424-9993 Hope this helps. a n wrote: > > From: n <jrobinso@...> > > I just read the Dr. Mazlen interview on Immunocal and it seem impressive > and not in conflict with other therapies, so I would like to try some. > > Can anyone tell me how I can buy some from Australia? > > Is it available in Australia? > Is it heavy to post? > Who sells it by mail order in the US? > > Thanks > > n > Tel/Fax +61-2-6239 6226 > Canberra, Australia > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > If you like orange and blue, then you will love our new web site! > > Onelist: ing connections and information exchange > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 1999 Report Share Posted April 14, 1999 Center for Special Immunology refers their patients to someone named Stan for purchasing Immunocal. He sells it wholesale to CFS patients. The cost is around $57.00. You can call CSI for his phone number at 1-949-753-0670 _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 1999 Report Share Posted April 18, 1999 Mike, Thats odd that they don't know since CSI is the one that gave me a list of supplements and where I could purchase them. For Immunocal the contact was Stan. Maybe you talked to a new person. Lori or Joyce should have his number if they still work there. I called the Center and they said they'd never heard of Stan, etc. Maybe there's a contact person at the Center who does know? If anyone knows more about this I'd appreciate the info, mike a. _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 1999 Report Share Posted April 18, 1999 I also sell Immunocal at my cost. Including postage,64.00. I am getting ready to order some more. I am out of it here at home and will need a check or money order before I can order it. Usually,if I have some here,I mail it out and the person mails me a check at the same time so they can get Immunocal sooner. I am out,though. I will be ordering it in a few days ,and can order yours too. Email me privately if you want to order from me. oobadooba@... Re: Immunocal >From: <safreed@...> > >Mike, > >Thats odd that they don't know since CSI is the one >that gave me a list of supplements and where I could >purchase them. For Immunocal the contact was Stan. >Maybe you talked to a new person. Lori or Joyce should >have his number if they still work there. > > > > >I called the Center and they said they'd never > heard of Stan, etc. > Maybe there's a contact person at the Center who > does know? If anyone > knows more about this I'd appreciate the info, > > mike a. > > >_________________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 1999 Report Share Posted April 20, 1999 I started taking it in January. I noticed,slowly,that I quit having alot of the thrush and the secondary bacterial infections with the viruses I was getting so often. Now after having allergies to all I was tested for by 3 different allergists over many years,and having food allergies to about every food,I notice I can tolerate foods in small amounts that I could not tolerate at all before. I noticed my allergies aren't as bad as before. I have been ill all my life,even as a child, and these symptoms were a big part of my life..The pain is better,etc . I notice every change because it was all such a big part of my life. My energy levels wax and wane,but even my bad days now are better than they ever were before and the relapses do not last as long. I continue it because I believe it is helping..I also take alot of other supplements,but feel it is the Immunocal helping the most. I tried other things that boost the GTH levels in the body too,but the results were not as good as the Immunocal. I became a distributor because it was too expensive otherwise. Then started to sell it at my cost so others could try it too. I do not make any money off selling it. It may be helpful to others too. I have heard from others and they are also getting good results,but it is not an overnight cure. It takes awhile. I take 2 packets a day now. Hope I helped answer your questions. Email me again if you need anything else. Re: ERROR ON DOSAGES OF ATP/ GTH ....MEANT T O SEND PRIVATELY OPPS From: saturn3@... Could you tell me what good reactions you get from Immunical? Thanks C ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Has ONElist changed your life? http://www.ONElist.com Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the Week! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 1999 Report Share Posted April 20, 1999 if immunocal makes you feel good wouldn't atp/gth shots make you feel even better?? > Re: ERROR ON DOSAGES OF ATP/ GTH ....MEANT T > O > SEND PRIVATELY OPPS > > > From: saturn3@... > > > Could you tell me what good reactions you get from Immunical? > Thanks > C > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Has ONElist changed your life? > http://www.ONElist.com > Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the > Week! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Looking for the perfect gift for a friend? > http://www.ONElist.com > Tell them about ONElist's 115,000 free e-mail communities! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 I any weight lifting supply store you can get a years worth of high quality whey protein for the price of on months worth of immunocal. Much of the technology that is used to produce whey protein has been around for many years. In fact if you stumble on to a sale you might get a years worth for about 20 bucks. If you are using immunocal as a source of protein you are not getting that much because the doses are so small. LOL Steve > Immunocal > > Steve > I read about why the immunocal works better than other ways of raising GTH > in the cells. Immunocal has whey protein ,full of the things the body > needs to make it within the cells. It takes 500 Liters of milk for making > each box. That is how potent the proteins are. It is broke down enough to > make it easier for the body to use for its' benefit too. I thought that > was interesting....no shots for me,thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 ..Is it all the same thing? it wouldn't make sense to buy something more expensive if something cheaper does the same thing. I am all for saving money. Immunocal is a good product,but is expensive,even with my discount. I will look into some of the other sources to see if they work too. I am losing too much wt and seem to need more of the protein. I found a paper with all the nutritional info. It has 90 grams of protein....maybe that is a misprint...that is high. 600mg of calcium 90 grams magnesium and some other nutrients I didn't know it had. 1 calorie from fat. 9.3 mg of iron. 210 mg phosphorous etc. Interesting. Now I can compare this to some of the other whey proteins and see if they help me too. ....especially if they are cheaper. I have alot of food allergies too though,so I will have to be careful about that too. I can't tolerate milk/cheese etc,but do fine on the immunocal. I am going to check out some products today. Thanks for the thought. I would love to be able to save money,if I can find a comparable product. . Immunocal >> >> Steve >> I read about why the immunocal works better than other ways of raising GTH >> in the cells. Immunocal has whey protein ,full of the things the body >> needs to make it within the cells. It takes 500 Liters of milk for making >> each box. That is how potent the proteins are. It is broke down enough to >> make it easier for the body to use for its' benefit too. I thought that >> was interesting....no shots for me,thank you. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Did you know that knowledge is power? >http://www.ONElist.com >Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 ..Is it all the same thing? it wouldn't make sense to buy something more expensive if something cheaper does the same thing. I am all for saving money. Immunocal is a good product,but is expensive,even with my discount. I will look into some of the other sources to see if they work too. I am losing too much wt and seem to need more of the protein. I found a paper with all the nutritional info. It has 90 grams of protein....maybe that is a misprint...that is high. 600mg of calcium 90 grams magnesium and some other nutrients I didn't know it had. 1 calorie from fat. 9.3 mg of iron. 210 mg phosphorous etc. Interesting. Now I can compare this to some of the other whey proteins and see if they help me too. ....especially if they are cheaper. I have alot of food allergies too though,so I will have to be careful about that too. I can't tolerate milk/cheese etc,but do fine on the immunocal. I am going to check out some products today. Thanks for the thought. I would love to be able to save money,if I can find a comparable product. . Immunocal >> >> Steve >> I read about why the immunocal works better than other ways of raising GTH >> in the cells. Immunocal has whey protein ,full of the things the body >> needs to make it within the cells. It takes 500 Liters of milk for making >> each box. That is how potent the proteins are. It is broke down enough to >> make it easier for the body to use for its' benefit too. I thought that >> was interesting....no shots for me,thank you. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Did you know that knowledge is power? >http://www.ONElist.com >Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 Dr. Cheney has said that 10 grams (approximately) equal one pack of whey therapy and that most patients who are severe need two packs a day. Those well enough to work were the non-responders to Immunocal. Someone (sorry, don't remember who) was looking for " Stan " at Immocal The number on his card is at Immunotec Research Ltd. in Canada and the number is 800-257-1131. His name is Stan Azevedo. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 If immunocal is working for you do not change right away. do some research and talk to people at different stores. You could then choose the product which you believe has the best cost benefit ratio. You will not need to use the same amount of protein as a serious weightlifter. So choose you dose carefully. Compared to the doses provided by immunocal the weightlifting dose will be huge. So do the research and as they say " let the buyer beware " . LOL Steve > Immunocal > >> > >> Steve > >> I read about why the immunocal works better than other ways of raising > GTH > >> in the cells. Immunocal has whey protein ,full of the things the body > >> needs to make it within the cells. It takes 500 Liters of milk for > making > >> each box. That is how potent the proteins are. It is broke down enough > to > >> make it easier for the body to use for its' benefit too. I thought that > >> was interesting....no shots for me,thank you. > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Did you know that knowledge is power? > >http://www.ONElist.com > >Join a new ONElist e-mail community and strengthen your mind! > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with > each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Has ONElist changed your life? > http://www.ONElist.com > Visit our homepage and share with us your experiences at ONElist of the > Week! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 In a message dated 4/21/99 6:59:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, S@... writes: > most whey protein > products are so cheap -- Hello...... It was mentioned by a caller about a generic brand of immunocal in Mazlen's transcript with Dr.Cheney..... If I remember correctly he didn't seem to think it was out of the question . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 Two pack of immunocal a day would be so expensive and most whey protein products are so cheap --this smell like a rip-off to me. One could always do the injections and add another whey protein product to their diet. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 In a message dated 4/21/99 10:35:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, S@... writes: << personal gripe is that it cost too much. >> Steve, that's one huge truth. I did find out that Immunocal will not be on a multi-market selling scale for too much longer. PWAs use it and find it beneficial to most. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 There are thousands of whey protein products. Most of them were developed for body builders. I really do not know alot about them. I have used many of them over the years and none of them, including immunocal have made an impact, good or bad, on my health. It may be that immunocal is helpful to some people. My only point is that even if you could get a 30 dose carton for 50 buck it would still be outrageously expensive. If you believe that whey protein products can have a positive impact on your health status I think should research these products and find the one that provides the best value. While you are doing this research stay on immunocal. When you find a product that you think is a better value try it and see if you can tell the difference. When you compare the products read the labels carefully and see what the difference gram for gram. If you compare the product on a recommended dose basis you will be comparing apples to oranges because the recommended dose for the other product will assume you are a body builder and therefore have much higher needs for protein. Most products will provide information on the box that will allow you to make a gram for gram cost benefit analysis. In fact the only whey product that does not provide a detailed analysis on the box -- that I am aware of I-- is immunocal. LOL Steve > Re: Immunocal > > From: SUSYDOG@... > > In a message dated 4/21/99 6:59:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > S@... writes: > > > most whey protein > > products are so cheap -- > Hello...... > It was mentioned by a caller about a generic brand of immunocal in > > Mazlen's transcript with Dr.Cheney..... If I remember correctly he didn't > > seem to think it was out of the question . > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? > http://www.ONElist.com > Come join one of the 130,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 Steve- Is there a certain brand that is most similar? I don't know enough about the specifics to know. Also, are they really that similar if one is so specific to weight/muscle gain and the other for the immune system? (this is not intended to be rude!!0 Christa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 I do not know a lot about this. I have done weightlifting in the past but not intense. If you go to a store that sell these products you will see that according to the labels there are significant differences in these products. Since I have tried other protein supplements in the past and I am still taking immunocal -- I might as well use it up-- I know that whey proteins are not going to significantly effect my health. Therefore I am really not motivated in learning more than I already know. However if immunocal is your first experience with whey proteins and you are getting a benefit it would seem that the cost issue would motivate you to learn more about it. My personal gripe is that it cost too much. I also do not like the fact that they do not provide the detailed information on the packaging that other whey product provide. I hope my concerns have not been express in an overly negative way. Take care Steve > Re: Immunocal > > From: Christa <TCraig1@...> > > Steve- > > Is there a certain brand that is most similar? I don't know enough about > the specifics to know. Also, are they really that similar if one is so > specific to weight/muscle gain and the other for the immune system? (this > is not intended to be rude!!0 > Christa > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Looking for a new hobby? Want to make a new friend? > http://www.ONElist.com > Come join one of the 130,000 e-mail communities at ONElist! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each > other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment > discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 1999 Report Share Posted April 22, 1999 GAILRONDA@... wrote: > > From: GAILRONDA@... > > Dr. Cheney has said that 10 grams (approximately) equal one pack of whey > therapy and that most patients who are severe need two packs a day. Those > well enough to work were the non-responders to Immunocal. ...snip... This is an interesting topic. Cheney told me when I visited him last week that the reason people who are well enough to work were not responding to Immunocal was because their digestive systems are in better shape than the more severely effected CFS patients. He said that for Immunocal to work, it can't be digested. I'm looking at my notes and I am quoting Cheney: " If you digest Immunocal, it won't work. " That is why he gave me these suggestions for taking Immunocal: 1. don't take with acid (i.e., don't mix it with a Coke to take it) 2. don't mix it up in a mechanical blender 3. use Pepsid AC about an hour before you take Immunocal to lessen the amount of acid in your stomach 4. be religious about taking it He also said that it takes about 6 months to start feeling better on Immunocal. I'm starting it soon and hoping for positive results! Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 1999 Report Share Posted April 22, 1999 oobadooba wrote: > > From: " oobadooba " <oobadooba@...> > > I started taking it in January. I noticed,slowly,that I quit having alot of > the thrush and the secondary bacterial infections with the viruses I was > getting so often. Now after having allergies to all I was tested for by 3 > different allergists over many years,and having food allergies to about > every food,I notice I can tolerate foods in small amounts that I could not > tolerate at all before. I noticed my allergies aren't as bad as before. ....snip... Interesting that you mention this. Dr. Cheney told me last week that Immunocal raises glutathione levels (which we all seem to know). He went on to say that glutathione is the best anti-microbial known to man. Also, 1. it is important to energy 2. it is important in preventing replication of things in you body that don't belong there (maybe the bacterial infections/ viruses/food allergies that you've had trouble with?) 3. And it is a major detoxifier. He said you have to raise glutathione levels to get better, and it sounds like that is what Immunocal is doing for you. Good going! Sheri P.S. I'm starting it soon and hope I have positive results, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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