Guest guest Posted July 1, 1999 Report Share Posted July 1, 1999 direct marketing product that is transitioning to retail. you don't have to put money in though, you just buy a box of 30 packets ($75). There is a big discount if you go on automatic order (around $60 for 30 packets). some people on east coast say their rite aid and walmart pharmacy can special order it, but that is not true yet here in california. imuplus is the other nondenatured whey protein isolate. cheney says he has looked at their manufacturing process and he is confident it is same thing as immunocal. allergy research/nutricology has this for $110 for 60 packets, and you can get it from www.biogene.com for $99 for 60 packets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 1, 1999 Report Share Posted July 1, 1999 We have.......so far...... Immuplus Immunocal Lef #3?? Immunopro I think these are what we all may have found to be helpful ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 1999 Report Share Posted September 16, 1999 Hi, Here is the site for the Life Extension products: http://www.lef.org/company.html They make a lower cost version of Immunocal which is undenatured whey protein and lactoferrin. I ordered the Designer Protein and Enhanced Life Extension Protein. The importent part is to have the undenatured whey protein as in Immunocal. If you visit this site, you can review all the products. In addition, I decided to order mint-flavored cod liver oil! Good luck, Christie At 05:08 AM 9/15/99 EDT, you wrote: >From: NeffysMom@... > >Hi, everyone - > >I've been lurking around in recent months, but it's been a while since I've >spoken up. It's good to see the animosity on the list has died down. Let's >keep it that way! > >I've decided to try Immunocal, and have a couple of questions I'd like to >ask. First of all, I know there is at least one other, less expensive, >product Dr. Cheney believes is as good as Immunocal, but I don't remember >what it is. I'm also interested in the less expensive ways to purchase it, >including a senior citizens' discount I remember noticing. > >Sorry I'm asking for information that's already been posted here. I tried >searching the archives, but gave up after about an hour. There's simply too >much for my CFIDS mind to wade through! > >Thanks for your help, > > Conner > > >--------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 1999 Report Share Posted November 9, 1999 Chere, Yes you can get it without a prescription anywhere in North America. Check out my website for more information about Immunocal (under my signature). As far as reimbursement issues you can contact me at 800-621-7225 or email me back at paragonws@.... I'll be happy to help you. Sincerely, Tony <A HREF= " http://www.immune-response.net/go/paragon " >The Best Defense is Cell Defense</A> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 1999 Report Share Posted November 11, 1999 Tell your mom to do a shark cartilage enema, or an Aloe Vera enema. Both have worked well for colon cancers. Benfin shark cartilage from LANE LABS, or Aloe vera from Royal Body Aloe are good brands. Besides the enema, you can drink the cartilage and Aloe. Also, try to drink lots of FRESH CARROT JUICES, and other VEGETABLE JUICES. Or buy the dried juices of these fruits. And don't eat processed or " dead foods " ; these usually have carcinogens in them via processing. Cancer is usually a nutritional disease, so try to supplement your diet with good nutritional supplements. A high antioxidant/nutrient product is RiSoTriene....do a search on the web to find others. Usually you need to take more than the recommended dosage when you're sick, then reduce the dose as you recover. On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 Chere123@... wrote: > Hello, can anyone tell me a little about Immunocal. My mother has cancer > that started at her colon and spread to her liver. If this a product that > can be purchased without RX where can I get it? > > Thankyou, > Chere > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Click on Instant Credit Card Approval at > http://clickhere./click/1271 > > > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > -- Create a poll/survey for your eGroup! > -- vote?listname=cures for cancer & m=1 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 1999 Report Share Posted December 9, 1999 May I suggest an explanation (using the same model that is shown at http://www.folkarts.com/idef/treatment.htm ), Immunocal ==> Increases O2 ==> Kill off Mycoplasma or other bacteria ==> " Die-off Effects " ==> Thickening blood ==> More severe CFS symptoms .... My wife had a similar reaction for the first few days of doing Hale's breathing techniques (also an O2 increaser) and we debated the " Mycoplasma Die-off " , with no definitive conclusion... Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 1999 Report Share Posted December 9, 1999 Imuplus has helped me a tremendous amount with fevers and painful, swollen lymph nodes. Helped some with energy level, but not nearly as dramatic. Best price is NEEDS catalog, $82.50 for 60 packets. I started with about an 1/8th of a packet, am up to about 1 and 1/4 packets a day. Their number is 800-634-1380. They have a website, but I don't remember what it is (sorry!) and also, I don't think they have imuplus on the site yet. I take it on an empty stomach, with distilled water. Mix in cyclone mixer thingy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 1999 Report Share Posted December 12, 1999 hello! just wanted to throw in my .02. don't know if you have this at your website, ken, but IMUplus is available from N.E.E.D.S. for $82 or $88 for 60 pkts. their # is 1-800-634-1380. @}{~{<<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ debbie s. - dlsherman@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 1999 Report Share Posted December 12, 1999 Thanks! -- I'm adding a " sources " page -- right now! Re: Immunocal > From: dlsherman@... > > hello! > > just wanted to throw in my .02. don't know if you have this at your > website, ken, but IMUplus is available from N.E.E.D.S. for $82 or $88 > for 60 pkts. their # is 1-800-634-1380. > > @}{~{<<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > debbie s. - dlsherman@... > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 1999 Report Share Posted December 16, 1999 debbie,it was great .dont let some of thes people make you paranoid every time selling is mentioned. if it wasn't for advertisement we would not learn about a lot of things that can and has been helpful.your info has been helpful.if i didn't think so i have a delete key. pjbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 1999 Report Share Posted December 16, 1999 I hope that if anyone was listening to this call this evenening they just tuned into Molson and the research that he spoke of. This was my intention by sharing this with you. Most everyone knows that it is a networking business, that was not my intent for sharing. I wanted you to hear first hand what kind of research is happening with Immunocal in the medical world. Was not intended to offend. Debbie " debbie hamonic " <hamonic-@...> wrote: original article:cures for cancer/?start=4706 > Hello > If anyone is interested in hearing Molson speak of Research and > Development on Immunocal there is a free call tonight. > > 1-800-991-9019 code 941925 7pmPST (10pmEST) > > Everyone is welcome to have a listen. > Debbie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 1999 Report Share Posted December 21, 1999 Randa I went to the pub med line and looked up glutathione and acute myeloid leukaemia and there is allot of reserach that points to the importance of glutathione and this disease. There is also allot of research proving that Immunocal has the precursors or nurishment that glutathione needs to work prorperly. Immunocal is a whey protein concentrate discovered by Dr. Gustavo Bounous at McGill University over twenty years ago. It was released three years ago this month to the public. A company by the name of Immunotec distributes it through a MLM system in North America and eventually through Pharmacy's in over 65 countries. It will be in the PDR2000 which is the Phycisians Desk Reference 2000, it has two patents on cancer. All Immunocal is is food for the cells. All of our cells have a protein called glutathione, this protein when working properly because it has nurishment, is the antioxidant and detoxifier of your cells. Built right in to take care of us. This protein consists of three amino acids, glutamate, glycine and cysteine. The first two are in abundance in our diets but not cysteine. Dr. Bounous discovered in this whey protein an amino acid called cystine. This is two cysteine molecules joined by a bond. The cystine is able to piggy back on the protein precurssors into the cell, the bond disolves and now gluathione has what it needs to work. In cancer the glutathione is abundant in the bad cells, when you raise the glutathione in the good cells, the glutathione in the bad cells does what is called a hair trigger and lowers itself, making it easier for the good cells to fight and get rid of the bad. Glutathione is the bully of our cells. For more info contact me and I will link you to that info about your brothers particular leukaemia and the research on glutathione as well as the site on the patent for cancer. hamonicd@... this will give you the chance to research for yourself. The information is there. Debbie " randa " <snoba-@...> wrote: original article:cures for cancer/?start=4773 > what is immunocal exactly and why is it important for cancer and where > can I buy it? > Randa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 Randa, I have forwardered your e:mail to Dr. Andrade in Mexico, he helped my son with brain cancer. My son was given max of 3mo. 9 years ago and has been cancer free for 7 years. Hope this helps. God bless you and your family. Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 What doctor in Mexico did your son saw. Thanks Mundo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 1999 Report Share Posted December 23, 1999 , I will forward your e:mail to Dr. Andrade and he will e:mal you. If you have any other questions please contact me. Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2000 Report Share Posted January 15, 2000 Randa This is from an article you can get in full from my web site. It is a free report on glutathione and Immunocal. Whey and Glutathione This new research using whey protein concentrate led researchers to an amazing discovery regarding the relationship between cancerous cells, glutathione(GSH) and whey protein concentrate. It was found that whey protein concentrate selectively depletes cancer cells of their glutathione, thus making them more susceptible to cancer treatments such as radiation and chemotherapy. It has been found that cancer cells and normal cells will respond differently to nutrients and drugs that affect glutahione status. What is most interesting to note is the fact that the concentration of glutathione in tumor cells is higher than that of the normal cells that surround it. This difference in glutathione status between normal cells and cancer cells is believed to be an important factor in cancer cells' resistance to chemotherapy. As the researchers put it, " Tumor cell GSH(glutathione) concentration may be among the determinants of the cytotoxicity (poisonous to cells) of many chemotherapeutic agents and of radiation, and an increase in GSH concentration appears to be a least one of the mechanisms of acquired drug resistance to chemotherapy. " They further state, " It is well-known that rapid GSH synthesis in tumor cells is associated with high rates of cellular proliferation. Depletion of tumor GSH in vivo decreases the rate of cellular proliferation and inhibits cancer growth. " The problem is, it's difficult to reduce glutathione sufficiently in tumor cells without placing healthy tissue at risk and putting the cancer patient in a worse condition. What is needed is a compound that can selectively deplete the cancer cells of their glutathione, while increasing , or at least maintaining , the levels of glutathione in healthy cells. This is exactly what whey protein appears to do. In this new research it was found that cancer cells subjected to whey proteins were depleted of their glutathione, and their growth inhibited, while normal cells had an increase in GSH and increased cellular growth. These effects were not seen with other proteins. Not surprisingly, the researchers concluded, " Selective depletion of tumor GSH may in fact render cancer cells more vulnerable to the action of chemotherapy and eventually protect normal tissue against the deleterious effects of chemotherapy. " The exact mechanism by which whey protein achieves this not fully understood, but it appears that it interferes with the normal feedback mechanism and regulation of glutahione in cancer cells. It is known that glutathione production is negatively inhibited by its own synthesis. Being that baseline glutathione levels in cancer cells are higher than that of normal cells, it is probably easier to reach the level of negative-feedback inhibition in the cancer cells' glutathione levels than in the normal cells' glutathione levels. ----------------------------------------- I believe that if you are working with a doctor or doctors to be fair you must share with them what you intend to do. But Doctor's don't know everything so I would understand what it is you want to do and why. I would phone Immunotec and ask about this research and about chemo after all they hold the patent on Immunocal as a preventer as well as a treatment for cancer. I would insist my Dr speak with Dr. Bounous or one of his medical colleages about my specifics. This can be arranged for those that want it. I personally know of a twelve year old under going chemo at Cross Cancer in Edmonton Alberta, she had lymphoma and her parents gave her Immunocal while under going chemo. They had a special wig made for her, and were told how sick she would be after wards. Well, she never needed the wig, she wasn't very sick at all and walked out with no problems. By the third bout of chemo they gave her fourteen days of chemo in nine because her platlet count was up her good cells were protecting her. That was three years ago she is in remission to this day. But again you should consult with doctors first. Best wishes Debbie " randa " <snoba-@...> wrote: original article:cures for cancer/?start=5090 > Does anybody know if I can use Immunocal with chemo because I read on > their website that it should not be taken with immunosuppresent drugs > or for organ transplants. Please email me on _snobar@... > Thanks > Randa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2000 Report Share Posted January 20, 2000 I am a distributer but you can look it up on the web and buy from anyone you please. An immunocare customer can get the product for the same 40% discount that a distributer gets. For more info you can contact me directly at my address of hamonicd@... also you can phone the company and listen to a seven minute overview about Immunocal, in Canada and the USA this is a toll free call 24 hrs per day. 1-888-784-2222 you can also get more info at my web site on Immunocal and glutathione http://www.immune-response.net/go/naturesway You can also see the patent on cancer issued to Immunotec March, 1999. Debbie " ray mackie " <raymacki-@...> wrote: original article:cures for cancer/?start=5206 > Where can I get Immunocal? > > Have a nice day > Ray > ______________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2000 Report Share Posted January 21, 2000 DEE, ASK DR ANDRADE ABOUT THIS...IS IT ANY GOOD VIRIGNIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2000 Report Share Posted March 21, 2000 good question, kirk....i keep asking the same question, and lots more...no answers, just sales pitches bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2000 Report Share Posted March 21, 2000 Kirk Call me an idiot if you like!! But I will tell you why I see a difference and why I am not willing to take a look at others just in case they may or may not work. Whey protein has been around for ever. It is not new. Dr. Bounous and his colleages have done over twenty years of research with Immunocal. If you purchase his book at and Nobel " Breakthrough In Cell Defence " by Gustavo Bounous and Dr. Allan Somersall, you will learn how this all came to be. In the book he has a scection on the fact that after several years of results and good medical data, all of his came to a halt. And for the next couple of years he tried to find out what happened. In the mean time he tried several whey proteins from all over the world, and not one of them showed to have the same effect on glutathione in the cells that Immunocal showed. In his book you will read how they actually did nothing for glutathione. Then he was watching a show on the making of cheese. that is when he realized that what has been done to his Immunocal was it had the very properties needed to raise glutathione cooked out in the process. The reason why I say call me an idiot, with tounge in cheek is because I once was a very, very sick person with all kinds of immune challenges. I have taken the Immunocal everyday for three years now, and for three years I have managed to be well. Something in my first 39 years I was never able to enjoy. I had even at this point been sent to a phyciatrist to see if all my illness wasn't in my head. Well I know now I wasn't the one who was crazy. I know that Immunocal works to help the body be able to take care of itself. And everything I have personally seen in regards to the need of glutathione functioning as well as all the medical info I have read, tells me that this is to important to hope that these other whey's that have always been around, would now miraculously work. When they odviously didnt' work before Dr. Bounous discovery and release of Immunocal or they would have made these claims themselves over the years. Now all they do is use Dr. Bounous research to back the claims on a product that happens to have the same name " WHEY PROTEIN " but no actual research now or ever. This is the difference, I think you need to know how glutathione works and what it needs to be able to make the right choice as to how you will address it. Debbie kirk kolas <kkola-@...> wrote: original article:cures for cancer/?start=6602 > Debbie, > > What makes Immunocal different from the other undenatured whey protein > supplements that I can buy at the local healthfood stores? They seem to > have the same guarantee of ingredients. > > Kirk Kolas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2000 Report Share Posted March 21, 2000 it would be nice to hear a testimonial from someone not MLM' ing the product......a verifiable testimonail or two or three.........God knows, if it works it has been pushed enough to have hundreds of successful people happy to share with us bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2000 Report Share Posted March 23, 2000 Kirk Fair enough question. What makes Immunocal different? For starters I would have to say the research time and effort that has gone into proving Immunocal has what it takes to give glutathione the building blocks necessary to raise or support your immune system. It isn't just claims but actual scientific data and research. Genuine double blind studies. The only whey protein listed in the PDR200 for its therapeutic benefit. A fact that at one point when Dr. Bounous saw no result from the Immunocal in his earlier studies, while searching for answers tried these other whey proteins, and the fact was that even though they have some benefit, they do not give glutathione the building blocks necessary they all failed. Glutathione is the important factor here, and if for sure another whey has proven itself, not just in claims, then I think it would be worth taking. But I haven't seen any personally that have the poof that Immuncal has or do any of them seem dedicated to go on and prove this need of glutathione and it being supplemented in so many disease and illness processes as the company and the Drs. behind Immunocal. If you first understand how important glutathione is to your body, then I think you can understand how important it is to be guaranteed it is something you are addressing, and not missing in your daily diet. What ever you decide to do just know that making sure you give glutathione what it needs is very important, so understand glutathione and it is easier to make the right choices. Debbie Immunocal Debbie, What makes Immunocal different from the other undenatured whey protein supplements that I can buy at the local healthfood stores? They seem to have the same guarantee of ingredients. Kirk Kolas ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Special Offer-Earn 300 Points from MyPoints.com for trying @Backup Get automatic protection and access to your important computer files. Install today: 1/2344/7/_/378/_/953641189/ -- Check out your group's private Chat room -- ChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2000 Report Share Posted August 9, 2000 Hi Lori, There is a Dr. Bradley Chords(Chiropractor) in Lomita, CA selling Immunocal for $65 a box. I don't have his number but you can check information. Al Immunocal > Hi all, > > Does anyone know where I can buy Immunocal at the best price? Is > still around here and selling it?? Anyone have her address? > > Thank you > Lori > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 23, 2000 Report Share Posted August 23, 2000 In a message dated 08/22/2000 11:22:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hamonicd@... writes: << Immunocal is a USA patented natural food supplement which assists the body in maintaining optimal concentrations of Glutathione (GSH) - a vital cell constituent for the immune system as well as a major antioxidant and detoxifying agent. (In Canada it is called HMS90, Human Milk Serum 90%) >> Where can some one buy this product called Immunocal Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2000 Report Share Posted August 24, 2000 > Carole, > > I meant to ask you how long a box of Immunocal would last you. > There are 30 packets in a box. Had been taking one a day, so one box per month (although recently have had to cut back because of an increase in herxing). Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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