Please Help

[Guest guest]

Have you ever thought of a Sinus problem may be if you should a try sinus

decongestant med. also if this continues then I would go to ER. as they would

have to see you Bud

Dokkenette <BURNING_LIKE_A_FLAME@...> wrote:

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Hi, I have no insurance and no doctor at the moment so thought maybe someone

here can help me. I am really freaking out.

My problem of late is, my head. I am experiencing lots of dizziness, motion

sickness, (just moving my eyes too quick makes me sick and dizzy) My head feels

as if it would after being struck really hard, not a headache but that swooshy,

swimmy, throbbing feeling. Really hard too describe and it goes from the front

at times to the back of my head. I have also experienced muscle spasms on the

right side of my head above my ear and some facial numbness. Also my head is

becoming really sensitive to touch.

Has anyone else experienced any of these? Any suggestions? Any help would be so

appericated!

dokkenette

www.dokken.net

[Guest guest]

Todd,

I'm sorry to hear that your wife is having such an awful time. It's

always difficult to see a vital person devastated by illness. Your

support is wonderful and I'm sure she values it, whether she can

tell you or not.

I can't help you with possible co-infections, primarily because I

live on the east coast. The difficulty, though, with treating co-

infections is that there are tests for only a few, so even LLMDs

have to guess.

If your LLMD suspects a co-infection, then he will probably

prescribe a broad-spectrum antibiotic (like doxycycline) that

attacks a broad range of bugs and bug forms.

Good luck to you and your wife.

Jessie

>

> >

> Now, my wife and i are at a crossroads. She has been on

antibiotics

> for 6 months (ketek and tinidazole pretty much) and has, in the

> past, had some great improvement. However, 6 months in and we have

a

> problem. She has dropped into the pit of mental hell all of a

> sudden. She has had moments of 70%, but still totally

unable

> to function in normal society because she never knows when she is

> going to crash down to 8-10 %. The severe mental issues have

become

> out of control.

>

> >

> Thanks

>

> Todd

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Todd:

As far as the mental aspect of Lyme it can be as

bad or even worse than the mental. I would check

the side effects of the medication she is on and

a combination of some meds. can bring on very

distressing emotions (especially crying spells).

I don't mean to get to personal, but how old is

your wife? Is it possible that this could be

perimenopausal? This can happen anywhere from 30

on up until actually menopause age. Check with

your dr.'s. I don't know if this is any help at

all, but it was what came to mind when I read

your e-mail.

Your wife is very blessed to have you by her

side, knowledge is power and so is having a

supportive spouse. I know my husband deserves a

metal for putting up with the battle I have been

involved in for the past 5+ years.

Be blessed and keep the faith that things will

get better.

Blessings for healing,

DonnaLee

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[Guest guest]

Todd

I also can't tell you about co-infections, but when I was taking

Zithro (for the L-form/cell wall deficient form)and now the Flagyl

(cyst form of Lyme)I've had a roller coaster ride with emotions. I

had to back off and take 1/4 tablet of the Flagyl every other day

(for the last 2 weeks) and make sure I drink a gallon of water a day

to help clear my system. It is getting much better than it was.

Wish I could help more

Rose Marie

>

>

> >

> > >

> > Now, my wife and i are at a crossroads. She has been on

> antibiotics

> > for 6 months (ketek and tinidazole pretty much) and has, in the

> > past, had some great improvement. However, 6 months in and we

have

> a

> > problem. She has dropped into the pit of mental hell all of a

> > sudden. She has had moments of 70%, but still totally

> unable

> > to function in normal society because she never knows when she

is

> > going to crash down to 8-10 %. The severe mental issues have

> become

> > out of control.

> >

> > >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Todd

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Todd,

Your wife is lucky to have you for her advocate. Rocephin antibiotic

administered intraveniously crosses the blood brain barrier which

most likely your wife needs to address the Central Nerveous System

Lyme infection. Doxycycline is used as the first choice after an

acute infection because it kills Ehrlichia, too.

This was a treatment I received after an acute Lyme diagnosis this

August. I did not get diagnosed immediately, even though I had an

immediate Erythema Migrans as well as the typical symptoms of mild

flue and a lot of pain with night sweats and diarrhea. My 1st

treatment started with 2 weeks of Doxy almost 1 month later, followed

by a 2nd course of Doxy for 3 weeks with 18 days of no abx inbetween.

My husband and I were vacationing in Maine enjoying hiking when I

found three tiny black dots under my ankle which the doctor, at the

emergency hospital, ruled out to be ticks.

I received 28 days of Rocephin via PICC Line in Novemeber because I

continued to test strongly positive on both ELISA and Western blot

tests. I was lucky I got this treatment from Infectious Diseses

Physician. But that was all he would give me. I am now seeing Lyme

literate doctor who put me on Ketek and Amoxycillin. I have been on

it for 1 month and a half now. I was told all my symptoms would get

worse while on this treatment. This has not happened yet. It could

be your wife has been experiencing her reaction, woesening of her

symptoms.

I hope you can find a good LLMD who can administer safely Rocephin to

your wife. Make sure your wife is taking plenty of probiotics that

have many strains inbetween the abx doses!!! Sould be refregerated.

Good Luck and my best to your wife. Be patient and don't loose hope.

Lida

> > >

> > > >

> > > Now, my wife and i are at a crossroads. She has been on

> > antibiotics

> > > for 6 months (ketek and tinidazole pretty much) and has, in the

> > > past, had some great improvement. However, 6 months in and we

> have

> > a

> > > problem. She has dropped into the pit of mental hell all of a

> > > sudden. She has had moments of 70%, but still totally

> > unable

> > > to function in normal society because she never knows when she

> is

> > > going to crash down to 8-10 %. The severe mental issues have

> > become

> > > out of control.

> > >

> > > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > Todd

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I found that the herxing and side effects of Ketek caused extreme mood

swings in me as well. I started taking 20mg of paxil, daily, about 4

months ago, and my mood swings have really stabilized. Lyme causes

changes in the brain that emulate depression and can cause sudden

boughts of anxiety and suicidal impulses. I would suggest that your

wife should consider taking an anti-depressant. I would also suggest

that you contact Dr Murakami, in Hope or Vancouver BC, as he is best

LLMD, that I know of up here.

cheers

Duncan

>

> Hi gang,

>

> I, as always, appreciate your help and support. I appologize as this

> is a bit long, but I want to be as accurate as possible in order to

> get the best information. My wife, prior to this incredible illness,

> was one of the strongest people I knew. She was a climber, kayaker,

> hiker, mountaineer, runner, amazing teacher, healthy, fit, strong

> etc. until she became devastatingly ill. She was clinically

> diagnosed with lyme and she began treatment on July 1, 2005. She was

> bit either in BC, Oregon, or Baja Mexico although there was

> never a sign of a tick bite .

>

> Now, my wife and i are at a crossroads. She has been on antibiotics

> for 6 months (ketek and tinidazole pretty much) and has, in the

> past, had some great improvement. However, 6 months in and we have a

> problem. She has dropped into the pit of mental hell all of a

> sudden. She has had moments of 70%, but still totally unable

> to function in normal society because she never knows when she is

> going to crash down to 8-10 %. The severe mental issues have become

> out of control.

>

> During our last visit to the LLMD, he made an appoimtment for us

> with Dr H in California. We are going there in March and hopefully

> we will find some answers there, but i am looking for advice on what

> sort of co-infections we might be looking at. She is mentally out of

> control. Her crying is like what I envision watching your own

> children raped and tortured to death would be like and this happens

> everyday. I don't mean to be so graffic, but that is as close as I

> can get. Having said that, this is the strongest woman I know. The

> type of woman that inspires super hero comic books.

>

> She was only misdiagnosed for 14 months, what could we possibly be

> looking at. She has, as of 3 days ago, dropped the ketec and

> tinidazole and begun taking Levaquin. Baja, Oregon, BC - any idea

> what's out there? I have spent the time trying to find out myself,

> but there is too much B.S. information on the net. People trying to

> sell a miracle cure. Help if you can. Let me know if you need any

> sdditional information.

>

> That's as short as I can make it.

>

> Thanks

>

> Todd

>

[Guest guest]

I was told by a neuro lyme doc that they think that ketek does not

cross the blood brain barrier...May be you would try to have your doc

try doxy or mino in high dose...doxy crosses the bbb in high doses and

mino goes right thru....I have had success with mino and would try

it...ask your doc....if he is stumped have him call one of the gurus

and ask them what to do....

eric

[Guest guest]

Given the Herx I had when I first started Ketek, I think it does cross

the blood-brain barrier. However, someone else in this group suffered

anxiety while on Ketek, so it could be contributing.

Jessie

>

> I was told by a neuro lyme doc that they think that ketek does not

> cross the blood brain barrier...May be you would try to have your

doc

> try doxy or mino in high dose...doxy crosses the bbb in high doses

and

> mino goes right thru....I have had success with mino and would try

> it...ask your doc....if he is stumped have him call one of the gurus

> and ask them what to do....

> eric

>

[Guest guest]

I do believe that it crosses the bbb but to what extent....time will tell....i

took it and herxed like hell.

eric

REMOC <REMOCLIHP@...> wrote:

I was on ketek for about 11 months;my LLMD told me it crossed the BBB.I

believe as i had wild mental nad psychiatric manesfestations I got my money's

worth with the stuff.

Phil

[Guest guest]

Thank you Glen and Lizzie for your emails. I spoke yesterday to a doctor at

Mount Sinai hospital here in New York, he speciliazes in internal medicine.

He told me that Bartonella is not a big deal. That most people if they took a

blood test, would test positive for it. He said that it doesn't really affect

people, as they have anti bodys to fight it. He said that I shouldn't worry

abou it. I wonder what you make of it?? Is he right or he is just ignorant??

He does charge $350 per visit and does work at a reputable hospital... I really

don't know what to think anymore.... Any idias??

Thanks so much for your help.

Mila

Glen Wolfsen <wolfsen@...> wrote: Dear Mila:

Lizzie is RIGHT!!! Have you checked Lyneorg web-site? I think

there is a phone # also for referrals to LLMD's in various areas of the

country. I had a neighbor who had Bartonella and was tested for SO many

other things before it was discovered, but once it was she was able to be

treated and made a very good recovery. I know of a DR. in Upstate New York

who is very good, but I am sure that would be too far for

you. Pocypsee(sp??) NY because I used to drive a patient there from

CT. Keep hunting and someone form this group will also help you. If you

still have trouble - write to this group again - keep asking. Meanwhile,

keep a good attitude and believe that you will improve. Attitude and

positive belief are very important factors in addition to treatments. -

Glen from NJ

[Guest guest]

I really not help you in NY, I would suggest that you call or talk to the local

Unversity there. They should have information you need. Best of Luck,

Bud

nyconnect <nyconnect@...> wrote: Hi everyone. I really need help and I

was hoping someone could answer

my question:

My cat recently has been diagnosed with Bartonella henselae illness

and is on antibiotics. I am afraid that I have been infected as he is

a cat who likes to bite a lot. When I started doing research on

Bartonella, I came across Lyme disease articles and my symptoms

resemble Lyme disease which brings me to this problem: I have been

trying to find a good doctor who can test for Lyme disease and

Bartonella in my area which is Brooklyn, New York, but have no luck

finding such a doctor. I wanted to know if anyone knows of a good

doctor in the New York area that can help. Queens, Brooklyn, Bronx,

Manhattan, i will go anyhwere to get tested.

Please get back to me if you know. My email is

nyconnect@...

Thank you very much for your help.

Mila

[Guest guest]

run as fast as you can to an llmd and dont look back....

eric

Mila Alper <nyconnect@...> wrote:

Thank you Glen and Lizzie for your emails. I spoke yesterday to a doctor at

Mount Sinai hospital here in New York, he speciliazes in internal medicine.

He told me that Bartonella is not a big deal. That most people if they took a

blood test, would test positive for it. He said that it doesn't really affect

people, as they have anti bodys to fight it. He said that I shouldn't worry

abou it. I wonder what you make of it?? Is he right or he is just ignorant??

He does charge $350 per visit and does work at a reputable hospital... I really

don't know what to think anymore.... Any idias??

Thanks so much for your help.

Mila

[Guest guest]

==>Hi . Welcome to our group.

> hi, i have been suffering with candida through my system for what

seems like ages. my symptoms get so bad at times i think im going to

die. i want to start this diet but unsure about the ratios. i have

just recently become a vegan for health reasons but after reading

about candida i see that isnt the way to go. i reall need a hand to

start this diet. i cant afford to get sicker. plus my kids (ryan 4

kaysie 2) have it too. id appreciate any help. thanks

==>, do not be as concerned about the ratios when you first

start on the diet - to help get started not only do you need to

thoroughly read my article " How to Successfully Overcome Candida "

sent to you when you joined, but also print out the Article Curing

Candida, How to Get Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

==Those two articles will get you off to a good start. We are here

to help you along the way as you progress. You will be so happy

you've decided to do this program even though it is tough and

requires a lot of patience and persistence.

I wish you and your children the very best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I've been suffering with IBS for about a year now and was recently

> advised to cut out Yeast and Sugar as well as cow's milk, soya and

rye. I'm finding it really hard at the moment as I'm confused as to

the extent that I have to cut out sugar, should I cut it completely

or is it ok to eat a small amount of sugary food (ie one cereal bar

daily)?

==>Hi Amy. Welcome to our group. Unfortunately you have to cut out

all sugars, and not even one cereal bar daily is okay. That is

because candida feeds off of sugars of all kinds; in fact it feeds

off of all carbs (all foods that aren't classified as protein or

fat). But it is impractical to cut out all carbs, so only those that

are high in carbs or sugars are eliminated.

==>You need to cut out all dairy products, except butter, since they

all contain lactose (sugar) too. And also all grains are cut out.

> I'm also confused about what I can drink on nights out, is vodka ok?

==>No, all alcohol is mycotoxic, meaning it is a fungal-type toxin,

which is not allowed on the program. Any alcohol also adds to the

overload of alcohol in your body because candida puts out over 79

toxins, most of which are alcohol.

> And what can I use as sugar alternatives? I've been advised to use

> agave nectar, but is honey and maple syrup ok?

==>No, none of them are okay. The only type of sweetener allowed is

stevia and only in very small amounts. The fact that you are wanting

sugars certainly indicates you have candida big time!

>

> I really want to get better as the bloating, constapation,

tiredness and depression I have had this year have made studying

extremely difficult. I also want to be able to enjoy food and have a

life. I could really do with all of the support and advise I can get

as I'm finding this very hard at the moment. Thank you,

==>Yes, it is very very tough to get healthy Amy! We must follow

Nature's Laws and give our bodies the nutrients it needs to heal and

maintain health. Unfortunately the food industry, governments, and

even nutritionists and others are promoting improper diets. That's

why over 70% of the world's population has candida.

==>Please ensure you read my article " How to Successfully Overcome

Candida " : http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_8.php

Also print out the 2nd article on that menu " Curing Candida, How to

Get Started. " There are also handy food and supplements lists on my

website: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_2.php

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2_4.php

We are here to help and support you so you too can become healthy,

like many of us have. Please get back to us with questions and

concerns after you've read.

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

>

> I think I am finally done rebelling. My stomach hurts so bad that I

> can hardly stand it. I am pretty sure that I was in denial for a

while

> therefore I have eaten things that I SHOULD HAVE NOT EATEN. What is

> the best way to start this diet that will be most beneficial? Is

there

> a web site that will let me know what to eat and what not to eat. I

> would really appreciate any help that I can get. I seem to get

bored

> eating chicken, salad, tea and water. It has occured to me that I

just

> don't know what else to eat. I guess I am pretty new to all of

this.

> Any suggestions or any help at all would be greatly appreciated.

Hi Rhonda. My website has everything you'll need, and more. There

are over 757 files on my website, including recipes. My website isn't

just for candida so you have to choose recipes carefully.

Here's my website: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/

Be sure to read " How to Successfully Overcome Candida " and " Curing

Candida, How to Get Started " . After that you can print out Candida

Diet and Supplements Lists.

Onward and upward!

Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> I hope you have time to hear my case.

>

> I have acute systematic candidiasis and my health is deteriorating day by day.

I am 24 yrs old and have been having fungal infections from childhood. During my

early years (Age 10 onwards), I had on and off fungal skin infections near bone

joints, sensitive areas, ears, neck and in scalp. Though it would vanish after

anti fungal oinments, I was never cured anytime and it would return sooner or

later.

<snip>

It has started troubling me again and I am having nighmares of Jan 2009. I

started to think that this is incurable. Anybody please help if you know or

heard of a cure!

+++Hi there. Welcome to our group. What is your name please?

Candida is definitely curable if you follow Nature's Fundamental laws on health,

which is to provide your body with the nutrients it requires so it becomes able

to heal itself naturally.

Candida is not cured by killing it off; it just doesn't work that way at all.

Candida is only cured by building up the immune system with mainly " proper

nutrients " (this diet plus supplements) by eliminating foods and toxins that

feed candida, and by eliminating toxins in general and foods that are damaging

to anyone's health. That is what this program is all about: " proper nutrients "

and how the body heals itself.

See these many Success Stories for encouragement:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

Please read two important articles so you understand what you need to do and

why:

1) How to Successfully Overcome Candida

2) Curing Candida, How to Get Started

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/candida/index.php

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Certainly a possibility! It would be a great idea to get a western blot

done. Note that a negative will mean nothing, but a positive will always be

valid!

See the testing folder on my free Lyme Resource CD for how to read the tests

etc.

> [ ] Please Help

>

> My mother has been feeling sick for a month. She has had

> stomach pains, feels " yucky " all over and has a loss of

> appetite. I am not sure her inernist is doing a great job

> managing her case. I sent her to a GI and upon a CT scan and

> stool sample, no findings. She on her last days of

> antibiotics. Her doc perscribed in case she had some sort of

> parasite.....which I doubt. He did a blood work-up, sans the

> test for lyme. We live in an area where lyme is prevalant.

>

> Any thoughts on this? Is it possible this is lyme? No rash.

>

> Thanks all.

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

You don't always get a rash with Lyme and sometimes it could be in a place you

can't see.

So I would definitely suspect Lyme it is a master of disguise.  Many blessings

I'll be praying you get some answers quickly and that they are the right

diagnosis.

 

From: susiekunin <susiekunin@...>

Subject: [ ] Please Help

Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 1:16 AM

 

My mother has been feeling sick for a month. She has had

stomach pains, feels " yucky " all over and has a loss of appetite. I am not sure

her inernist is doing a great job managing her case. I sent her to a GI and

upon a CT scan and stool sample, no findings. She on her last days of

antibiotics. Her doc perscribed in case she had some sort of parasite.... .which

I doubt. He did a blood work-up, sans the test for lyme. We live in an area

where lyme is prevalant.

Any thoughts on this? Is it possible this is lyme? No rash.

Thanks all.

[Guest guest]

Many of the lyme co-infections are parasites...so your mom might have lyme and a

parasite or 2...I think it is a very real possibility that your mom could have

lyme - and I would definately have her tested no matter what this doctor says -

at Igenex if you can.

>

> My mother has been feeling sick for a month. She has had stomach pains, feels

" yucky " all over and has a loss of appetite. I am not sure her inernist is

doing a great job managing her case. I sent her to a GI and upon a CT scan and

stool sample, no findings. She on her last days of antibiotics. Her doc

perscribed in case she had some sort of parasite.....which I doubt. He did a

blood work-up, sans the test for lyme. We live in an area where lyme is

prevalant.

>

> Any thoughts on this? Is it possible this is lyme? No rash.

>

> Thanks all.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jaye,

I notice you take Thyroid hormones.? My chronic illness began with hypothyroid

dx Oct '03.? I believe it was caused by Lyme because no matter what type or

dosage of thyroid meds I took or how normal the blood work came back, I

continued to feel frequent episodes of fatigue, brain fog etc.? Now I'm with a

Lyme Specialist (he's president of the International Lyme and Associated

Diseases Society) and he only gives me one month's supply of Synthroid--no

refills--between monthly visits.Seems to be watching thyroid closely.? Our

endocrine system, especially thyroid & adrenals are often effected by Lyme.?

Have you had lab work regarding thyroid & adrenal function recently? That could

be part of the problem.

Hope this is helpful.?

Kim

have restarted BP little over a month ago and feeling worse. I added this time

several vitamins. Below is listed what I am taking and when. Does anyone see

what could be causing more brain fog, pain and fatigue.? I didn't think I could

feel any weaker and tired but am. I expected the pain from die off but it's been

constant. I really thought the brain fog would be better but is worse than ever

and i'm barely functioning.

I truly appreciate any help with this. It's taking all my energy to deal with

anything right now and feeling really lost on what I'm doing wrong.

Thank you

Jaye

[ ] Please help

I have restarted BP little over a month ago and feeling worse. I added this time

several vitamins. Below is listed what I am taking and when. Does anyone see

what could be causing more brain fog, pain and fatigue.? I didn't think I could

feel any weaker and tired but am. I expected the pain from die off but it's been

constant. I really thought the brain fog would be better but is worse than ever

and i'm barely functioning.

I truly appreciate any help with this. It's taking all my energy to deal with

anything right now and feeling really lost on what I'm doing wrong.

Thank you

Jaye

[Guest guest]

Jaye,

I'm sure someone is going to address this but SLOW DOWN!!! Not everyone can

jump into the full protocol.

My body has only been able to tolerate 4 DROPS of CC in the morning - so

take time and listen to your body.

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of blymie lymie

Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:51 AM

Subject: [ ] Please help

I have restarted BP little over a month ago and feeling worse. I added this

time several vitamins. Below is listed what I am taking and when. Does

anyone see what could be causing more brain fog, pain and fatigue. I didn't

think I could feel any weaker and tired but am. I expected the pain from die

off but it's been constant. I really thought the brain fog would be better

but is worse than ever and i'm barely functioning.

I truly appreciate any help with this. It's taking all my energy to deal

with anything right now and feeling really lost on what I'm doing wrong.

Thank you

Jaye

7 am Levothroxin

8 am

Resveratrol - 3 tabs

Sarsaparilla - 3 capsules

Cats Claw - 3 capsules

Andrographis - 3 capsules

Milk Thistle - 4 capsules

Vinpocentine - 20 mg

NAC - 1200 mg

Mega EFA - 2 gel caps

DHEA - 25 mg

Huperzine A - 100 mcg

Vit D - 2000 UI

B12 Sublingual - 1000 mcg

(will be changing over to BComplex soon)

9 am - Probiotics

1 pm

Resveratrol - 3 tabs

Sarsaparilla - 3 capsules

Cats Claw - 3 capsules

Andrographis - 3 capsules

Milk Thistle - 4 capsules

Vinpocentine - 20 mg

ToCoQ10 - 100 mg

Selenium - 200 mcg

5 pm

Iron - 65 mg

Vit C - 3000 mg

OptiZinc

9 pm

Resveratrol - 3 tabs

Sarsaparilla - 3 capsules

Cats Claw - 3 capsules

Andrographis - 3 capsules

Milk Thistle - 4 capsules

Vinpocentine - 20 mg

10 pm - probiotics

Burbur and parsley tincture throughout day when pain is bad.

Also have issues with Candida which I have included Whey (I'm a vegetarian

and having a hard time with protein with Candida diet).

~Enjoy the little things, for one day you may look back and realize they

were the big things.~ Brault ~

[Guest guest]

Hi there .. there are a lot of potentials of what is causing your symptoms, if

you have other symptoms, like feeling physically unstable etc that might pound

to DHEA or Thyroid or anything " hyper " in origin, even sarsaprilla has a speedy

element to it, increases adrenaline I guess.

But, if your symptoms are just feel like poop warmed over and spacie .. that

sounds like an immune reaction .. which could be good if its just killing stuff

off .. are you doing any kind of detox along with this to help carry away not

only dead whatevers .. but the toxins they create ??

Its hard for us to say, since only you know how long youve been on what and in

what order youve added things .. if you or someone else cant figure it out,

might have to start fresh adding one step at a time to find out whats going

on... DETOX is HUGE no matter if your on a protocol or not..

I always have to ask people if theyve had a Coagulatiion panel run to see if

they have Hypercoagulation/thick blood .. if so and untreated, most things

either dont work or have an adverse reaction because it cant move through your

system propertly .. I advise everyone to read up on this one Element .. so they

fully understand the importance of getting your blood thin and your vessals as

clearned out as good as possible, not only for proper body functions, but so you

dont have a Heart Attack or Stroke .. Happened to me when they where saying

seldom involved...ha

Try to add as much info as you can like what you started when, k.. maybe

someone else can help with that info..

Sorry, I couldnt help more... cynthia

>

> Jaye,

>

> I'm sure someone is going to address this but SLOW DOWN!!! Not everyone can

> jump into the full protocol.

>

> My body has only been able to tolerate 4 DROPS of CC in the morning - so

> take time and listen to your body.

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , blymie lymie <blymielymie@...>

Jaye, reguarding your symptoms that all sounds familiar to me and probably

others that read this board. I was taking 82 pills a day but have cut back. It

took four or five months to start feeling better. I will have been on the

program for 1 year in October. I feel about 75% better and am thankful for that.

I started my treatment with Artemisinin on the chance that I had Babesia as I

had the night sweats. I also took Natural Factors Garlic Factors both 3 times a

day. The Resveratrol recommended in the book gave me problems so I switched to

Now food Natural Resveratrol 200mg. I took Huperzine A and Ginko for the brain

fog and memory along with vinpocetine. What I see missing from your list;

1.Siberian Eleuthero. I used the tincture at first and now use Natures Way

Siberian Eleuthero standardized. 2pills moring and 2 at lunch. For malaise and

general strengthening.

2.Boneset immune boost

3.Redroot for detox

4.Bromelaine and Tumeric for inflamation

5.chlorella for detox. From Dr Klinghardts detox.

6.Nattokinaise for fibrin. I had some stomach indegestion at first and felt some

pain in my heart but both subsided. Klinghardt recommends Lumbrokinaise which is

much more expensive but is supposed to work better.

7. S.B. recommends Swedish Massage. I had no money so I just washed with a stiff

bath brush sort of a physical detox each day and lots of hot water. I just

started Accupressure using Michal Gach's book Accupressures Potent Points.

Dr Zhang recommends Accupuncture. I wish I had started earlier with the

accupressure as it seems very beneficial. One treatment stopped knee pain that

had been there all summer.

8. I also use a zapper ala Dr. Hulda . It seemed to put the lyme on the run

but due to metal pins in my body it is not avised.

[Guest guest]

is there stress in your life at the moment.

>

> Dear every body

> I am in 6th years of MS. Recently I have an atack. my problems:

> 1- walking problem

> 2- Lower limb weeknes

> 3- blaer problem.

>

> I am on ldn and know I am on antioxidant therapy.

>

> What should I do?

>

[Guest guest]

Make sure your pharmacy has not made any changes in compounding your LDN, check

for a bladder infection, fever, could weather change be causing a problem, have

you developed candida yeast overgrowth? Check your stress level. You might

skip taking LDN for 3 nights and start back and see if that makes any

difference. I see people complain most during seasonal changes and time changes

like Daylight Saving Time going on.

, LDN user 6 years for progressive MS.

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>

> Dear every body

> I am in 6th years of MS. Recently I have an atack. my problems:

> 1- walking problem

> 2- Lower limb weeknes

> 3- blaer problem.

>

> I am on ldn and know I am on antioxidant therapy.

>

> What should I do?

>