Guest guest Posted July 3, 2001 Report Share Posted July 3, 2001 cking001@... wrote: > > I found this on Zell: > http://store./nutritionblvd/18245.html Chuck, you are the greatest! Not only is that the most concise and complete info I've ever seen, it's also the best darn price I've ever found! Muchas Gracias!! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2001 Report Share Posted July 3, 2001 cking001@... wrote: > > I found this on Zell: > http://store./nutritionblvd/18245.html Chuck, you are the greatest! Not only is that the most concise and complete info I've ever seen, it's also the best darn price I've ever found! Muchas Gracias!! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2001 Report Share Posted July 4, 2001 Any information on the effectiveness of Zell Oxygen for someone who has a very limited lung capacity? My wife, Anne, has severe scarring of her lungs, due to pulmonary Srcoidosis. Any help will be appreciated. Steve Radcliff > ** Original Subject: Re: Oxygen > ** Original Sender: cking001@... > ** Original Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 05:03:14 +0000 > ** Original Message follows... > > I found this on Zell: > http://store./nutritionblvd/18245.html > > Chuck > Just doing my bit to lower property values ! > > On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 21:08:13 -0400, Sharon <starshar@...> wrote: > > >I was intrigued when you mentioned find Zell Oxygen in the archives so I > >went to check out any posts on it. All the search would give me was > >posts to and from Zell!! > >HOW did you get to these? It's one of my favorite products, but hard to > >get info on! > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2001 Report Share Posted July 4, 2001 Any information on the effectiveness of Zell Oxygen for someone who has a very limited lung capacity? My wife, Anne, has severe scarring of her lungs, due to pulmonary Srcoidosis. Any help will be appreciated. Steve Radcliff > ** Original Subject: Re: Oxygen > ** Original Sender: cking001@... > ** Original Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2001 05:03:14 +0000 > ** Original Message follows... > > I found this on Zell: > http://store./nutritionblvd/18245.html > > Chuck > Just doing my bit to lower property values ! > > On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 21:08:13 -0400, Sharon <starshar@...> wrote: > > >I was intrigued when you mentioned find Zell Oxygen in the archives so I > >went to check out any posts on it. All the search would give me was > >posts to and from Zell!! > >HOW did you get to these? It's one of my favorite products, but hard to > >get info on! > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2001 Report Share Posted July 4, 2001 Hi Sharon, I read all the info at the website. Is this the same kind of thing as the stabilized oxygen products and Homozon, or does it do something else? Thanks. Peggy >>Chuck, you are the greatest! Not only is that the most concise and complete info I've ever seen, it's also the best darn price I've ever found! Muchas Gracias!! Sharon>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2001 Report Share Posted July 4, 2001 Hi Sharon, I read all the info at the website. Is this the same kind of thing as the stabilized oxygen products and Homozon, or does it do something else? Thanks. Peggy >>Chuck, you are the greatest! Not only is that the most concise and complete info I've ever seen, it's also the best darn price I've ever found! Muchas Gracias!! Sharon>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Thanks Gail, Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I should have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the web site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering me, even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you take a day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read about it. ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com Re: Oxygen Hi Karma, You can get H202 at most health food stores. The best price is from Azure at www.azurefarm.com. The phone # is: (541)467-2230. Seems like it's only around $12 for a gallon, maybe $18. Can't remember offhand. You will pay about that much for a lot less in the healh food store. Just make sure it's the 35% food grade kind. All it's called is food grade 35% hydrogen peroxide. To your health, Gail OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Karma & Gail, Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price is INCLUDING the hazard fee. You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm jim Karma Tucker wrote: > > Thanks Gail, > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I should > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the web > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering me, > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you take a > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read about > it. > > ~Karma ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Jim, I have been taking a product for about four months now called Hydroxygen Plus, I really like it. It is a combination of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. I am really liking this product, should I think of adding the h202 to my daily routine too? Or do you think the Hydroxygen Plus covers it. If you aren't familiar with this product you can read about it here http://www.globalhealthtrax.org/cgi-bin/replicator/d.cgi/19405/nobody.html ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com Re: Oxygen Karma & Gail, Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price is INCLUDING the hazard fee. You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm jim Karma Tucker wrote: > > Thanks Gail, > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I should > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the web > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering me, > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you take a > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read about > it. > > ~Karma ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Jim, I have been taking a product for about four months now called Hydroxygen Plus, I really like it. It is a combination of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. I am really liking this product, should I think of adding the h202 to my daily routine too? Or do you think the Hydroxygen Plus covers it. If you aren't familiar with this product you can read about it here http://www.globalhealthtrax.org/cgi-bin/replicator/d.cgi/19405/nobody.html ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com Re: Oxygen Karma & Gail, Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price is INCLUDING the hazard fee. You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm jim Karma Tucker wrote: > > Thanks Gail, > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I should > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the web > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering me, > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you take a > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read about > it. > > ~Karma ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Jim, One more thing, I am heading to town today. (I live in a rural area) Anyway, there is a health food store in town and I can buy H202 from them if it is something worth adding to my daily routine. Is there a site to read more about it and the benefits? ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com Re: Oxygen Karma & Gail, Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price is INCLUDING the hazard fee. You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm jim Karma Tucker wrote: > > Thanks Gail, > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I should > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the web > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering me, > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you take a > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read about > it. > > ~Karma ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Jim, One more thing, I am heading to town today. (I live in a rural area) Anyway, there is a health food store in town and I can buy H202 from them if it is something worth adding to my daily routine. Is there a site to read more about it and the benefits? ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com Re: Oxygen Karma & Gail, Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price is INCLUDING the hazard fee. You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm jim Karma Tucker wrote: > > Thanks Gail, > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I should > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the web > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering me, > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you take a > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read about > it. > > ~Karma ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other alternative self-help subjects. THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher or health care provider. You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of the message! : oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Karma, Before oxyplus began I was on the oxylist, which unfortunately, no longer exists. There were long arguments over the chemistry of certain oxygen drops, and it was concluded that some people aren't worried able about the chlorine in drops with a chlorite base, while others believe the chlorine will be toxic. I sided with the better-safe-than-sorry group because there are other ways to get oxygen. That leaves two oxygen drop products on the market for which I have never seen a plausible answer to it ingredients or how they work.... or any answer, for that matter. One is Vitamin O from RGarden and the other is hydroxygen plus. I have bought both & given them to people who swear by them, but I still don't know what they are or how they work because, after reading much too many advertising pages, their manufacturers never really say. I cannot offer an opinion, because I don't have one. jim Karma Tucker wrote: > > Jim, > I have been taking a product for about four months now called Hydroxygen > Plus, I really like it. It is a combination of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. > I am really liking this product, should I think of adding the h202 to my > daily routine too? Or do you think the Hydroxygen Plus covers it. If you > aren't familiar with this product you can read about it here > http://www.globalhealthtrax.org/cgi-bin/replicator/d.cgi/19405/nobody.html > > ~Karma > http://loaves-n-fishes.com > http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com > Re: Oxygen > > Karma & Gail, > > Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, > because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can > ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of > the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price > is INCLUDING the hazard fee. > > You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm > > jim > > Karma Tucker wrote: > > > > Thanks Gail, > > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I should > > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the web > > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering > me, > > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you take a > > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read > about > > it. > > > > ~Karma > ----- > The TRUTH in 11 words: > Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! > -- anon > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Karma, Before oxyplus began I was on the oxylist, which unfortunately, no longer exists. There were long arguments over the chemistry of certain oxygen drops, and it was concluded that some people aren't worried able about the chlorine in drops with a chlorite base, while others believe the chlorine will be toxic. I sided with the better-safe-than-sorry group because there are other ways to get oxygen. That leaves two oxygen drop products on the market for which I have never seen a plausible answer to it ingredients or how they work.... or any answer, for that matter. One is Vitamin O from RGarden and the other is hydroxygen plus. I have bought both & given them to people who swear by them, but I still don't know what they are or how they work because, after reading much too many advertising pages, their manufacturers never really say. I cannot offer an opinion, because I don't have one. jim Karma Tucker wrote: > > Jim, > I have been taking a product for about four months now called Hydroxygen > Plus, I really like it. It is a combination of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. > I am really liking this product, should I think of adding the h202 to my > daily routine too? Or do you think the Hydroxygen Plus covers it. If you > aren't familiar with this product you can read about it here > http://www.globalhealthtrax.org/cgi-bin/replicator/d.cgi/19405/nobody.html > > ~Karma > http://loaves-n-fishes.com > http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com > Re: Oxygen > > Karma & Gail, > > Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, > because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can > ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of > the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price > is INCLUDING the hazard fee. > > You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm > > jim > > Karma Tucker wrote: > > > > Thanks Gail, > > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I should > > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the web > > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering > me, > > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you take a > > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read > about > > it. > > > > ~Karma > ----- > The TRUTH in 11 words: > Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! > -- anon > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Thanks Jim, I have tried the Rose Vitamin O too, but opted for the Hydroxygn Plus because of what I read. I sell both, and actually started taking it so I would have an opinion when people asked me about Liquid Oxygen. I tried another brand a few years ago and wasn't impressed at all. I wasn't expecting to be impressed with either of these either. I was amazed that I could tell a difference with the Hydroxygen Plus. What is the question you didn't get answered? Maybe I have it in my information from the manufacturers. ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com Re: Oxygen <snip> I have bought both & given them to people who swear by them, but I still don't know what they are or how they work because, after reading much too many advertising pages, their manufacturers never really say. I cannot offer an opinion, because I don't have one. jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Thanks Jim, I have tried the Rose Vitamin O too, but opted for the Hydroxygn Plus because of what I read. I sell both, and actually started taking it so I would have an opinion when people asked me about Liquid Oxygen. I tried another brand a few years ago and wasn't impressed at all. I wasn't expecting to be impressed with either of these either. I was amazed that I could tell a difference with the Hydroxygen Plus. What is the question you didn't get answered? Maybe I have it in my information from the manufacturers. ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com Re: Oxygen <snip> I have bought both & given them to people who swear by them, but I still don't know what they are or how they work because, after reading much too many advertising pages, their manufacturers never really say. I cannot offer an opinion, because I don't have one. jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Dear Karma, I have bought Vitamin O,which helped our CNA when she was wheezing and had difficulty breathing. I Just recently ordered a product called Oxycharge which appears to be just as good or better than Vitamin O. The place I ordered from says Vitamin O and all the similar Oxygen products comes from a manufacturer in Utah. I have probably given these products to 5 or 6 people and only my brother in law in Florida said he couldn't say it helped. He has emphysema, but the others found help quickly and our CNA who also has lung cancer for which she takes POLYMVA says the O products do help her. Manson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Dear Jim, I think I read that Vitamin O is germanium sesquioxide. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Jim Lambert <jlambert@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: Oxygen Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 13:53:01 -0400 Karma, Before oxyplus began I was on the oxylist, which unfortunately, no longer exists. There were long arguments over the chemistry of certain oxygen drops, and it was concluded that some people aren't worried able about the chlorine in drops with a chlorite base, while others believe the chlorine will be toxic. I sided with the better-safe-than-sorry group because there are other ways to get oxygen. That leaves two oxygen drop products on the market for which I have never seen a plausible answer to it ingredients or how they work.... or any answer, for that matter. One is Vitamin O from RGarden and the other is hydroxygen plus. I have bought both & given them to people who swear by them, but I still don't know what they are or how they work because, after reading much too many advertising pages, their manufacturers never really say. I cannot offer an opinion, because I don't have one. jim Karma Tucker wrote: > > Jim, > I have been taking a product for about four months now called Hydroxygen > Plus, I really like it. It is a combination of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. > I am really liking this product, should I think of adding the h202 to my > daily routine too? Or do you think the Hydroxygen Plus covers it. If you > aren't familiar with this product you can read about it here > http://www.globalhealthtrax.org/cgi-bin/replicator/d.cgi/19405/nobody.html > > ~Karma > http://loaves-n-fishes.com > http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com > Re: Oxygen > > Karma & Gail, > > Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, > because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can > ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of > the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price > is INCLUDING the hazard fee. > > You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm > > jim > > Karma Tucker wrote: > > > > Thanks Gail, > > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I should > > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the web > > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering > me, > > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you take a > > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read > about > > it. > > > > ~Karma > ----- > The TRUTH in 11 words: > Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! > -- anon > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2001 Report Share Posted July 6, 2001 Dear Jim, I think I read that Vitamin O is germanium sesquioxide. Best of Health! Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Jim Lambert <jlambert@...> Reply-oxyplus oxyplus Subject: Re: Oxygen Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 13:53:01 -0400 Karma, Before oxyplus began I was on the oxylist, which unfortunately, no longer exists. There were long arguments over the chemistry of certain oxygen drops, and it was concluded that some people aren't worried able about the chlorine in drops with a chlorite base, while others believe the chlorine will be toxic. I sided with the better-safe-than-sorry group because there are other ways to get oxygen. That leaves two oxygen drop products on the market for which I have never seen a plausible answer to it ingredients or how they work.... or any answer, for that matter. One is Vitamin O from RGarden and the other is hydroxygen plus. I have bought both & given them to people who swear by them, but I still don't know what they are or how they work because, after reading much too many advertising pages, their manufacturers never really say. I cannot offer an opinion, because I don't have one. jim Karma Tucker wrote: > > Jim, > I have been taking a product for about four months now called Hydroxygen > Plus, I really like it. It is a combination of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. > I am really liking this product, should I think of adding the h202 to my > daily routine too? Or do you think the Hydroxygen Plus covers it. If you > aren't familiar with this product you can read about it here > http://www.globalhealthtrax.org/cgi-bin/replicator/d.cgi/19405/nobody.html > > ~Karma > http://loaves-n-fishes.com > http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com > Re: Oxygen > > Karma & Gail, > > Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, > because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can > ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of > the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price > is INCLUDING the hazard fee. > > You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm > > jim > > Karma Tucker wrote: > > > > Thanks Gail, > > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I should > > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the web > > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering > me, > > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you take a > > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read > about > > it. > > > > ~Karma > ----- > The TRUTH in 11 words: > Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! > -- anon > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > other alternative self-help subjects. > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at your > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability to > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree to > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a researcher > or health care provider. > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY of > the message! : > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal mode. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 I don't think so. Vitamin O is a trademark product made by a MLM company (formerly Staff of Life). It's a liquid stabilized oxygen product. I've seen lots of patients carrying it around and I personally know the owners and " upper levels " at the company, and I don't put any stock in it at all. Dr.Bormann Saul Pressman wrote: > Dear Jim, > > I think I read that Vitamin O is germanium sesquioxide. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Jim Lambert <jlambert@...> > Reply-oxyplus > oxyplus > Subject: Re: Oxygen > Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 13:53:01 -0400 > > Karma, > > Before oxyplus began I was on the oxylist, which unfortunately, no > longer exists. There were long arguments over the chemistry of certain > oxygen drops, and it was concluded that some people aren't worried able > about the chlorine in drops with a chlorite base, while others believe > the chlorine will be toxic. I sided with the better-safe-than-sorry > group because there are other ways to get oxygen. > > That leaves two oxygen drop products on the market for which I have > never seen a plausible answer to it ingredients or how they work.... or > any answer, for that matter. One is Vitamin O from RGarden and the other > is hydroxygen plus. > > I have bought both & given them to people who swear by them, but I still > don't know what they are or how they work because, after reading much > too many advertising pages, their manufacturers never really say. > > I cannot offer an opinion, because I don't have one. > > jim > > Karma Tucker wrote: > > > > Jim, > > I have been taking a product for about four months now called Hydroxygen > > Plus, I really like it. It is a combination of liquid oxygen and > hydrogen. > > I am really liking this product, should I think of adding the h202 to my > > daily routine too? Or do you think the Hydroxygen Plus covers it. If > you > > aren't familiar with this product you can read about it here > > > http://www.globalhealthtrax.org/cgi-bin/replicator/d.cgi/19405/nobody.html > > > > ~Karma > > http://loaves-n-fishes.com > > http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com > > Re: Oxygen > > > > Karma & Gail, > > > > Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, > > because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can > > ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of > > the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price > > is INCLUDING the hazard fee. > > > > You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm > > > > jim > > > > Karma Tucker wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Gail, > > > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I > should > > > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the > web > > > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering > > me, > > > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you > take a > > > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read > > about > > > it. > > > > > > ~Karma > > ----- > > The TRUTH in 11 words: > > Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! > > -- anon > > > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability > to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree > to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY > of > > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2001 Report Share Posted July 7, 2001 I don't think so. Vitamin O is a trademark product made by a MLM company (formerly Staff of Life). It's a liquid stabilized oxygen product. I've seen lots of patients carrying it around and I personally know the owners and " upper levels " at the company, and I don't put any stock in it at all. Dr.Bormann Saul Pressman wrote: > Dear Jim, > > I think I read that Vitamin O is germanium sesquioxide. > > Best of Health! > Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: Jim Lambert <jlambert@...> > Reply-oxyplus > oxyplus > Subject: Re: Oxygen > Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 13:53:01 -0400 > > Karma, > > Before oxyplus began I was on the oxylist, which unfortunately, no > longer exists. There were long arguments over the chemistry of certain > oxygen drops, and it was concluded that some people aren't worried able > about the chlorine in drops with a chlorite base, while others believe > the chlorine will be toxic. I sided with the better-safe-than-sorry > group because there are other ways to get oxygen. > > That leaves two oxygen drop products on the market for which I have > never seen a plausible answer to it ingredients or how they work.... or > any answer, for that matter. One is Vitamin O from RGarden and the other > is hydroxygen plus. > > I have bought both & given them to people who swear by them, but I still > don't know what they are or how they work because, after reading much > too many advertising pages, their manufacturers never really say. > > I cannot offer an opinion, because I don't have one. > > jim > > Karma Tucker wrote: > > > > Jim, > > I have been taking a product for about four months now called Hydroxygen > > Plus, I really like it. It is a combination of liquid oxygen and > hydrogen. > > I am really liking this product, should I think of adding the h202 to my > > daily routine too? Or do you think the Hydroxygen Plus covers it. If > you > > aren't familiar with this product you can read about it here > > > http://www.globalhealthtrax.org/cgi-bin/replicator/d.cgi/19405/nobody.html > > > > ~Karma > > http://loaves-n-fishes.com > > http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com > > Re: Oxygen > > > > Karma & Gail, > > > > Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, > > because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can > > ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of > > the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price > > is INCLUDING the hazard fee. > > > > You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm > > > > jim > > > > Karma Tucker wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Gail, > > > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I > should > > > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the > web > > > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering > > me, > > > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you > take a > > > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read > > about > > > it. > > > > > > ~Karma > > ----- > > The TRUTH in 11 words: > > Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! > > -- anon > > > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability > to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree > to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY > of > > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 Hi Dr. Bormann, This brings up a question for you. I have tried the Vitamin O also and could tell no difference in anything. I tried it several years ago. On another list the question came up about liquid oxygen supplements. I carry a lot of them, including Vitamin O, but didn't want to recommend Vitamin O from my previous experience with it. I decided to try the Hydroxygen Plus and the ABI stabilized liquid oxygen. I was able to tell a difference with the Hydroxygen Plus, but nothing on the ABI brand, which disappointed me because it is much cheaper. :-) The Hydroxygen Plus really increased my energy and alertness. Plus I tried it on some skin problems that I was having and it helped my body to heal them up almost overnight, not quite that quickly, but darn close! While on vacation I had a nasty wound on my shin. I ripped a 1 inch long slash about 1/2 inch deep into my shin. We were in the middle of nowhere with no medical facilities for hours, so I ran it under water for about an hour, then put some Hydroxygen Plus directly onto the wound and onto the Band Aid before applying it to my shin. It burned like the dickens, but I left it there anyway. I did this because just before leaving on vacation a friend of mine who was also using the Hydroxygen Plus had called to tell me of a situation. She has a mole on her chest where the bottom of her bra goes, somehow she snagged the mole and ripped it. It was late at night and she thought she would wait and go to the doctor about it in the morning. She decided to try the Hydroxygen Plus on it because the literature says it will help skin problems. She said that in the morning the mole was reconnected and there was no problem. This is why I decided to try what the product information suggests on skin problems. I'm sure they didn't mean this kind of deep cut, it really needed stitches, and I fully planned on getting them the next day when we could find an emergency room. In the morning, my skin was not red or infected as I expected it to be. It was sealed and looked like a small cut. My question is this... Since you have experience with Vitamin O, do you also have experience with the ABI stabilized Oxygen, and are they the same thing? Do you have any experience with the Hydroxygen Plus? ~Karma http://loaves-n-fishes.com http://www.karma.awarenesshealth.com Re: Oxygen > > > > Karma & Gail, > > > > Hydrogen peeeroxide at 35% food grade is considered a toxic chemical, > > because it is so oxidative it is caustic to all living things. It can > > ONLY be shipped by truck or UPS, and UPS charges a hazard fee on top of > > the cost of the peroxide & shipping. Make sure you know what the price > > is INCLUDING the hazard fee. > > > > You can also buy it in bulk at http://www.braztec.com/otprice.htm > > > > jim > > > > Karma Tucker wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Gail, > > > Now I feel really stupid. I just didn't make the connection as I > should > > > have with H202 being food grade hydrogen peroxide. I appreciate the > web > > > site and phone number, I'll look into it. Thanks again for answering > > me, > > > even though it was apparently a stupid question! How much do you > take a > > > day? How do you take it? I have never used it before, but have read > > about > > > it. > > > > > > ~Karma > > ----- > > The TRUTH in 11 words: > > Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! > > -- anon > > > > jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience > > http://www.entrance.to/poetry > > > > OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and > > other alternative self-help subjects. > > > > THERE IS NO MEDICAL ADVICE HERE! > > > > This list is the 1st Amendment in action. The things you will find here > > are for information and research purposes only. We are people sharing > > information we believe in. If you act on ideas found here, you do so at > your > > own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability > to > > take responsibility for your own actions. By joining the list you agree > to > > hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself. Do not use any ideas found > > here without consulting a medical professional, unless you are a > researcher > > or health care provider. > > > > You can unsubscribe via e-mail by sending A NEW e-mail to the following > > address - NOT TO THE OXYPLUS LIST! - > > DO NOT USE REPLY BUTTON & DO NOT PUT THIS IN THE SUBJECT LINE or BODY > of > > the message! : > > > > oxyplus-unsubscribeegroups > > > > oxyplus-normalonelist - switch your subscription to normal > mode. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 In a message dated 7/6/2001 10:39:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, karma@... writes: << Jim, I have been taking a product for about four months now called Hydroxygen Plus, I really like it. It is a combination of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. I am really liking this product, should I think of adding the h202 to my daily routine too? Or do you think the Hydroxygen Plus covers it. If you aren't familiar with this product you can read about it here http://www.globalhealthtrax.org/cgi-bin/replicator/d.cgi/19405/nobody.html >> hi karma, can describe why you like this product so much..what has it been doing for you? how does it compare with homozon?thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 In a message dated 7/6/2001 10:39:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, karma@... writes: << Jim, I have been taking a product for about four months now called Hydroxygen Plus, I really like it. It is a combination of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. I am really liking this product, should I think of adding the h202 to my daily routine too? Or do you think the Hydroxygen Plus covers it. If you aren't familiar with this product you can read about it here http://www.globalhealthtrax.org/cgi-bin/replicator/d.cgi/19405/nobody.html >> hi karma, can describe why you like this product so much..what has it been doing for you? how does it compare with homozon?thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2001 Report Share Posted July 8, 2001 In a message dated 7/6/2001 10:39:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, karma@... writes: << Jim, I have been taking a product for about four months now called Hydroxygen Plus, I really like it. It is a combination of liquid oxygen and hydrogen. I am really liking this product, should I think of adding the h202 to my daily routine too? Or do you think the Hydroxygen Plus covers it. If you aren't familiar with this product you can read about it here http://www.globalhealthtrax.org/cgi-bin/replicator/d.cgi/19405/nobody.html >> hi karma, can describe why you like this product so much..what has it been doing for you? how does it compare with homozon?thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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