Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 Hi , You might want to ask the Pharmacist for the package inserts for each of the meds, as well as his advice as to when and how to take them. I've found through my own experience that the Pharmacists know more about this area than the doctors. I don't know about Imuran, but I was told over and over to take Prednisone with food - for whatever that's worth. Good Luck Barbara Ann Transplant Recipient AIH --- emily simpson <esimpson7@...> wrote: > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > > Hi everyone, > > I have a simply question regarding taking > medication. I've been prescribed > 50mg Imuran, 40mg Prednisone. Do I take these > together in the morning, or > should I space them out? My doctors were so rushed, > they didn't really > specify. Since they're so potent, it seems kind of > crazy to take them > together, but then I guess they have the same goal. > Together, or one before > breakfast and one after? That is the question.... > > Sorry I'm such a novice at this! > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Make your voice heard! > > Sign up for the ONElist Weekly Survey. Go to > homepage for details. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please support the American Liver Foundation! > > 1.) To subscribe send e-mail to > -subscribeonelist > 2.) To UNsubscribe send to > -unsubscribeonelist > 3.) Digest e-mail format send to > -digestonelist > 4.) Normal e-mail format send to > -normalonelist > _________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 , I also started out on 40 mgs. of Prednisone and 50 mgs. of Imuran. At first I was very sick and didn't realize it was possibly because of the medication. However, whether coincidentally or not, after a few weeks my doctor told me to split up the Imuran 25 mgs. in the AM and 25 mgs. PM. I've been taking it that way ever since and I haven't had problems with nausea since I was first sick. Now, our pharmacy is giving me Azathioprine instead of Imuran. Azathioprine doesn't split as easily as Imuran and I was just getting ready to post to ask if anyone has gone from taking split dosage of Azatioprine to taking it all at once. This is what I want to do so I don't have to continue to cut the pills in half. I think I'll also call the pharmacy, but I trust the experience of this group more than I do the " by the book " information I'd get from a medical professional. About Prednisone, I tried splitting mine up for awhile and I don't think it worked as well. I'm now back to taking it all at once in the morning. If no one has told you this, " our " group discussed the fact that taking Prednisone early in the morning might make a difference because it would coincide with the body's natural time to secrete the hormones that pred replaces. You might try it that way to see if it's more effective for you early in the day. Take care! Geri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 , I too was on 40mg at one stage, docs said it is best taken with food, and it is best taken at breakfast, that way you are not so hyper when you want to sleep (for those that can). I did try both taking it in the morning and splitting it day and night, but did find it better to take all with food in the morning. Sorry can't help with the imuran, I am on cyclosporine. Hope you find your solution. SueB. ---------- > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > onelist > Subject: [ ] Medicine > Date: Tuesday, 15 June 1999 13:18 > > From: emily simpson <esimpson7@...> > > Hi everyone, > > I have a simply question regarding taking medication. I've been prescribed > 50mg Imuran, 40mg Prednisone. Do I take these together in the morning, or > should I space them out? My doctors were so rushed, they didn't really > specify. Since they're so potent, it seems kind of crazy to take them > together, but then I guess they have the same goal. Together, or one before > breakfast and one after? That is the question.... > > Sorry I'm such a novice at this! > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Make your voice heard! > > Sign up for the ONElist Weekly Survey. Go to homepage for details. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please support the American Liver Foundation! > > 1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist > 2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist > 3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist > 4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 1999 Report Share Posted June 15, 1999 Hi this is Dixie again..... I have never had to split my Imuran or Azathioprine (basicly the same thing) The Prednisone they had me split half with food early AM.... half abt. lunch PM. You should not have to break your prednisone you can get it in a various mg size... even 5mg.... Ask your pharmacy to help you out with the split dosage plan... They helped me.. The liver works from abt. 3:00am to abt. 3:00 pm then it goes in a rest cycle.... It is on a cycle too. That is why abt. afternoonish we become so tired....The Liver time cycle varies from person to person... That is another reason to never eat a heavy meal late afternoon.... I hope this helps.... Love and Light Dixie Geri Spang wrote: > From: Geri Spang <spangs@...> > > , > I also started out on 40 mgs. of Prednisone and 50 mgs. of Imuran. At > first I was very sick and didn't realize it was possibly because of the > medication. However, whether coincidentally or not, after a few weeks my > doctor told me to split up the Imuran 25 mgs. in the AM and 25 mgs. PM. > I've been taking it that way ever since and I haven't had problems with > nausea since I was first sick. > > Now, our pharmacy is giving me Azathioprine instead of Imuran. > Azathioprine doesn't split as easily as Imuran and I was just getting ready > to post to ask if anyone has gone from taking split dosage of Azatioprine > to taking it all at once. This is what I want to do so I don't have to > continue to cut the pills in half. I think I'll also call the pharmacy, > but I trust the experience of this group more than I do the " by the book " > information I'd get from a medical professional. > > About Prednisone, I tried splitting mine up for awhile and I don't think it > worked as well. I'm now back to taking it all at once in the morning. If > no one has told you this, " our " group discussed the fact that taking > Prednisone early in the morning might make a difference because it would > coincide with the body's natural time to secrete the hormones that pred > replaces. You might try it that way to see if it's more effective for you > early in the day. > > Take care! > Geri > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Congratulations to " PAFind, " our latest ONElist of the Week. > > How is ONElist changing YOUR life? Visit our homepage and let us know! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please support the American Liver Foundation! > > 1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist > 2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist > 3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist > 4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 1999 Report Share Posted June 17, 1999 Thanks Sue, Welcome home! Thanks for letting me know you take it all together at breakfast. I was scared to combine them at first, but it seems to be working out ok. Take care! >From: Roselle50@... >Reply- onelist > onelist >Subject: Re: [ ] Medicine >Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:08:33 EDT > >From: Roselle50@... > >SueB: > >That is how I took Imuran and Prednisone. All in the morning with >breakfast. > >Sue AIH >Wisconsin > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Who is the most visited e-mail list community Web Service? > >ONElist.com - where more than 20 million e-mails are exchanged each day! >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Please support the American Liver Foundation! > >1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist >2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist >3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist >4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 1999 Report Share Posted June 18, 1999 SueB: That is how I took Imuran and Prednisone. All in the morning with breakfast. Sue AIH Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 1999 Report Share Posted June 18, 1999 Hi Dixie, I've never had to break Prednisone into two pieces, but since both Imuran and Azathioprine come in 50 mg. tablets, it's necessary to break them in two to take half in the AM and half at night. My doctor told me that by splitting them I could cut back on nausea problems, so I've always done it that way. However, though Imuran tabs break in half easily, Azathioprine has to be cut in half with a knife and I often end up with fragments all over the place. I think I'll tell the pharmacist to change back to Imuran since only recently did the pharmacy change from Imuran to generic without any instructions from anyone. Probably to increase their profits (little cynacism here.) I take my meds on an odd schedule because I rarely go to bed until dawn. I'm at my best and most energetic in the late afternoon and frequently I'm full of energy when the rest of the world is sleeping. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the reason for this is the way I take my meds. Take care, Geri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 1999 Report Share Posted June 18, 1999 Sue, When you were taking Imuran and Pred. Could you sleep at night? Or were you hyped. SueB. ---------- > From: Roselle50@... > onelist > Subject: Re: [ ] Medicine > Date: Friday, 18 June 1999 14:08 > > From: Roselle50@... > > SueB: > > That is how I took Imuran and Prednisone. All in the morning with breakfast. > > Sue AIH > Wisconsin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Who is the most visited e-mail list community Web Service? > > ONElist.com - where more than 20 million e-mails are exchanged each day! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please support the American Liver Foundation! > > 1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist > 2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist > 3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist > 4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 1999 Report Share Posted June 18, 1999 Geri Buy a pill splitter at your local pharmacy. It isn't perfect in that you still occasionally have pill fragments, but it is a big improvement over using a knife, and a lot less messy. Re: [ ] Medicine > From: Geri Spang <spangs@...> > > Hi Dixie, > I've never had to break Prednisone into two pieces, but since both Imuran > and Azathioprine come in 50 mg. tablets, it's necessary to break them in > two to take half in the AM and half at night. My doctor told me that by > splitting them I could cut back on nausea problems, so I've always done it > that way. However, though Imuran tabs break in half easily, Azathioprine > has to be cut in half with a knife and I often end up with fragments all > over the place. I think I'll tell the pharmacist to change back to Imuran > since only recently did the pharmacy change from Imuran to generic without > any instructions from anyone. Probably to increase their profits (little > cynacism here.) > > I take my meds on an odd schedule because I rarely go to bed until dawn. > I'm at my best and most energetic in the late afternoon and frequently I'm > full of energy when the rest of the world is sleeping. I wouldn't be > surprised if some of the reason for this is the way I take my meds. > Take care, > Geri > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > What do lizards and rock music have in common? > > They both have communities at ONElist. Find yours today! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Please support the American Liver Foundation! > > 1.) To subscribe send e-mail to -subscribeonelist > 2.) To UNsubscribe send to -unsubscribeonelist > 3.) Digest e-mail format send to -digestonelist > 4.) Normal e-mail format send to -normalonelist > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 1999 Report Share Posted June 18, 1999 Hi All I take all my morning meds at the same time, a little while after breakfast. This includes: zoloft, xanax, prednisone, Zestril, micrazide (sp?) salagen (oh and Prevacid before breakfast), also one dose of Calcium citrate and an iron pill. Usually I don't have any problems. Take Care, Dianne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 1999 Report Share Posted June 19, 1999 Sue B: I was not because the doctor gave me an antidepressent (SPELLING) with pain medicine at night. But ofcourse I have no problem sleeping anywhere and since I got sick I just have problems when I have things on my mind. I should not worry but I guess I have to practice not doing it. I do think I am getting better about it. Sue AIH Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 1999 Report Share Posted June 20, 1999 , Good idea about the pill splitter. I'll check for one next time I go to the pharmacy. Thanks and take care, Geri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 1999 Report Share Posted June 20, 1999 Geri: I used the pill spitter all along. I gave my first one to the girl at work when her dog was sick and she was saying that she had problems breaking the pills in half. Then I needed to split pills again so I went out and purchased a new one. The are olny about 2 to3 dollars. Sue AIH Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 Hello, The best person to answer that would be your childs ped's rheumy. With meds its always best to ask the doc! The swelling is an can be very painful so I can understand your concern. Let us know what happens take care. Lynn MOM; 17, jra,fibro,ibs,cfs,migraines; Cory 15 (jra), Meg 22, RA; Zac 20 arthalgias linuxgal77 <stanrock@...> wrote: I was wondering if Motrin or naproxen will take take of my sons swollen fingers. From JRA. He has been on it for almost 4 weeks and there is no change. Shouldn't he be put on something else soon? WHat do you think? Thanks Linuxgal --------------------------------- Never Miss an Email Stay connected with on your mobile. Get started! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I came across a bright guy in New York, Majid Ali http://www.majidali.com/ who proposed a cogent theory of the origin of medicine in East Africa where it was passed on to India many thousands of years ago. The simple observational medicine of Africa evolved in many directions, both geographically and philosophically. Everyone who studies medicine seeks biological reality or so they say and often believe. It probably started off this way. Africans could almost seem like a magicians by studying the escutcheon of a milk cow or the air flow past the base of the brain of a bull. Ancient Egyptians could tell the gender of an unborn child by applying the mother's urine to germinating seeds. Medicines were often as simple and practical as radish and garlic. Slowly over the distances and millennia medicine became shaped by culture, and culture so often meant taboos, biases, and appeasement of gods and authorities. All too often we look back at this and think of these people as poor, misguided fools. I don't think this view takes into account a much more generous picture. It is these self same biases that propelled medicine forward. Africans lived in a hot clime and generally ran around naked. Why not? The Chinese on the other hand often lived in very cold areas and clothes became a part of the culture. This evolved into a sense of bodily shame, shyness, and modesty. The physician would use a doll so a patient would not have to undress. But this propelled medicine forward. The physician developed methods of diagnosis that did not require disrobing. This included careful palpation along the radial pulse, reading subtle signs in the eyes, ears, tongue, and finger nails. Many of us in the naturopathic tradition find it very useful to include these in our methods. They have certainly withstood the test of time. Modern medicine has been shaped by pharmaceutical company control of the education of physicians and by control of licensing bodies. In the US health care is a 4 trillion dollar a year business with chronic disease being the holy cash cow. Nothing is approved unless it quietly fosters more illness. The medical business is not in the business of putting itself out of business. This is quite upsetting to most realists, but I suggest that it is blessing in disguise. As the medical industry tries to stamp out all that is natural, clever people carefully examine ways to detoxify their bodies and use simple foods as their medicines. This has become a necessity for health and for the economic survival of the family. The internet has become a kinetic, chaotic, uncontrollable medium allowing the unfettered exchange of ideas, but silly theories quickly play out and sanity coalesces. Things will get worse before they get better. We now have more global " harmonization " of pharmaceutical control and Monsanto is trying to pass laws forcing even home organic gardeners to spray their poisons. The current healthcare structure will become so top heavy that much of it will topple. The country to watch is going to be China. It is a country with patience, with a high level of education, with their own way of seeing the world, and with an enormous cash reserve. They are doing something very, very right. When it comes to unconventional medical experimentation they are open minded. They have tried Nordestrom devices and impaludation therapies for cancer, they have tried silver-2-oxide for AIDS. If a medicine or device sounds plausible, the Chinese will try it, meanwhile the US will ban it. For about 15 years now I have ordered almost all chemical intermediates from China and with never a regret. If me and my buddies (some from this list) ever rule the world (or at least have some say) I will mandate that every person MUST become a citizen of more than one country. China will surely be one of my top choices. I am starting to decorate our retreat center with flags of the world. If anyone on the list is proud of their national flag or other representative flag, I will be happy to display it. Please don't send a Russian flag -- I already have one big enough to tent a house. Russians seem to be drawn here. We don't get nearly enough Africans and South Americans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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