Re: Coley's Fluid - quick pain relief after therapy

[Guest guest]

I attended a Smart Life Forum meeting (here in CA) where a man named Gar

Hillenbrand

spoke about it and I think has a DVD he made talking with people who used it.

you might try them and see how to reach him

www.smartlifeforum.org

val

From: " algarve7 "

Has anyone used Coley's Toxins/Coley's Fluid?

I'd love to hear from anyone who has used Coley's Fluid/Coley's Toxins. In my

experience it's very fast to give pain relief from the very first treatment.

[Guest guest]

camelot in tulsa

there was something negative about them posted here but I have personal

experience with them ..... I think they really do care....and have more positive

than negative for sure to say about them. We are not finished with them yet and

may not get to if Ray doesn't get better. He is too sick to go into the center

for treatment.

Damn biopsy is what left him with the staph infection in his lung I am

sure....and spread the cancer....in his intestines now as well.

Praying this feeding tube is the answer to keeping him alive....

right foot a little swollen and colder than left...he has never had swelling in

ankles before...????

I know no one ever has hope for a bedridden stage iv cancer patient before but I

just will NOT give up...

I appreciate your suggestions and your prayers....

carla

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From: " valheieck@... " <valheieck@...>

Sent: Wed, February 10, 2010 10:34:56 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Coley's Fluid - quick pain relief after therapy

I attended a Smart Life Forum meeting (here in CA) where a man named Gar

Hillenbrand

spoke about it and I think has a DVD he made talking with people who used it.

you might try them and see how to reach him

www.smartlifeforum. org

val

From: " algarve7 "

Has anyone used Coley's Toxins/Coley' s Fluid?

I'd love to hear from anyone who has used Coley's Fluid/Coley' s Toxins. In my

experience it's very fast to give pain relief from the very first treatment.

[Guest guest]

I am not comfortable " prescribing " and steer away from controversy but I will

share that I am personally using Haelan 951 fermented soy beverage as part of my

healing protocol (along with hyperthermia/low dose radiation and many other

beneficial substances listed on these boards.

Please consult with a qualified professional but among the things I had heard

was that in a group of 6 end case patients in a Mexican clinic many years ago,

Haelan was used as a drastic measure, 4 got up and started to eat and move

around after 2 days and the rest by week's end then they requalified for other

treatments. I was not there of course but this is attributed to well respected

scientist Ross Pelton.

Proceed at your own risk and I have no financial interest in the matter. My

prayers are with you.

-carla hartley <cphartley@...> wrote:

....I know no one ever has hope for a bedridden stage iv cancer patient before

but I just will NOT give up...

> I appreciate your suggestions and your prayers....

> carla

>

> From: " algarve7 "

>

> Has anyone used Coley's Toxins/Coley' s Fluid?

>

> I'd love to hear from anyone who has used Coley's Fluid/Coley' s Toxins. In my

experience it's very fast to give pain relief from the very first treatment.

[Guest guest]

Where do I get it?

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:45 PM, " kindlalawyer " <kindlalawyer@...> wrote:

I am not comfortable " prescribing " and steer away from controversy but I will

share that I am personally using Haelan 951 fermented soy beverage as part of my

healing protocol (along with hyperthermia/low dose radiation and many other

beneficial substances listed on these boards.

Please consult with a qualified professional but among the things I had heard

was that in a group of 6 end case patients in a Mexican clinic many years ago,

Haelan was used as a drastic measure, 4 got up and started to eat and move

around after 2 days and the rest by week's end then they requalified for other

treatments. I was not there of course but this is attributed to well respected

scientist Ross Pelton.

Proceed at your own risk and I have no financial interest in the matter. My

prayers are with you.

-carla hartley <cphartley@...> wrote:

....I know no one ever has hope for a bedridden stage iv cancer patient before

but I just will NOT give up...

> I appreciate your suggestions and your prayers....

> carla

>

> From: " algarve7 "

>

> Has anyone used Coley's Toxins/Coley' s Fluid?

>

> I'd love to hear from anyone who has used Coley's Fluid/Coley' s Toxins. In my

experience it's very fast to give pain relief from the very first treatment.

[Guest guest]

I ordered mine from the manufacturer at 800-542-3526. You should ask them any

pertinent questions you might have and the possibility of having an experienced

health professional overseeing any application. A website with their basics is

at

<http://www.haelanproducts.com/index.html>

Also interesting, is this 2006 interview:

<http://www.merrynjose.com/artman/publish/article_739.shtml>

This rekindled my interest in Ross Pelton and I see he is very active on the

internet. Here is a summary of his credentials spanning over 40 years:

<http://www.askdrross.com/bio.html>

Again my best wishes to you all.

Cphartley wrote:

>

> Where do I get it?

>

>

> On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:45 PM, " kindlalawyer " wrote:

>

> I am not comfortable " prescribing " and steer away from controversy but I will

share that I am personally using Haelan 951 fermented soy beverage as part of my

healing protocol (along with hyperthermia/low dose radiation and many other

beneficial substances listed on these boards.

> Please consult with a qualified professional but among the things I had heard

was that in a group of 6 end case patients in a Mexican clinic many years ago,

Haelan was used as a drastic measure, 4 got up and started to eat and move

around after 2 days and the rest by week's end then they requalified for other

treatments. I was not there of course but this is attributed to well respected

scientist Ross Pelton.

> Proceed at your own risk and I have no financial interest in the matter. My

prayers are with you.

[Guest guest]

P.S. In all fairness, please be advised and prepared that Haelan is on the

pricey side and the smell and taste to many might be a bit offensive because of

the extensive processing, in which case some sweetener is added. As to me,

though, I just swig it down straight like a man and have no problem with it.

Best.

[Guest guest]

Thanks. What would be the downside?

On Feb 10, 2010, kindlalawyer wrote:

I am not comfortable " prescribing " and steer away from controversy but I will

share that I am personally using Haelan 951 fermented soy beverage as part of my

healing protocol (along with hyperthermia/low dose radiation and many other

beneficial substances listed on these boards.

Please consult with a qualified professional but among the things I had heard

was that in a group of 6 end case patients in a Mexican clinic many years ago,

Haelan was used as a drastic measure, 4 got up and started to eat and move

around after 2 days and the rest by week's end then they requalified for other

treatments. I was not there of course but this is attributed to well respected

scientist Ross Pelton.

Proceed at your own risk and I have no financial interest in the matter. My

prayers are with you.

[Guest guest]

Now that we have a feeding tube it might be the perfect time

On Feb 11, 2010, " kindlalawyer " wrote:

P.S. In all fairness, please be advised and prepared that Haelan is on the

pricey side and the smell and taste to many might be a bit offensive because of

the extensive processing, in which case some sweetener is added. As to me,

though, I just swig it down straight like a man and have no problem with it.

Best.

[Guest guest]

I'd really like to hear more from people about Coley's Toxins if you don't

mind...

The problem I see with immune therapies is that the immune system isn't

activated to attack the cancer.

Coley's Toxins is very cheap and is something you should look into to stimulate

the immune system and activate it to attack cancer cells. The main cost is

administration. It requires medical supervision - ie. doctor or nurse to

administer it.

" Fever therapy with Coley's Toxins is more than just a rise in body temperature

and not analogous to hyperthermia (that is, mechanically

achieved increase in temperature). "

" In contrast to hyperthermia, fever is accompanied by diverse immunological

changes; notably, biochemical reaction rates increase,

and leucocyte proliferation, maturation, and activation is enhanced. "

ARTICLE

Dr Coley and tumour regression: a place in history

or in the future.

http://pmj.bmj.com/content/79/938/672.abstract

If anyone wants the full paper, let me know.

Coley's Fluid is available from a company in Canada at minimal cost but it needs

to be obtained by a doctor.

[Guest guest]

Carla have you  look into high dose vitamin C I was talking to a friend who had

it every two weeks the results were astounding but Im in two minds about this

treatment  Ive since found out  that because this treatment kills cancer

cells, this is not a recommended treatment for cancer patients who are in a

situation where even small amounts of inflammation and swelling would be

dangerous. though  I still think it will work  even with cancer at this late

stage God bles you both Ray

http://cancertutor.com/Cancer02/VitaminC_IVC.html 

[Guest guest]

Great thanks for that. I searched for Gar Hildenbrand and found his website

where he has a section on Coley's Fluid (Coley's Toxins) and links to some of

Hoption-Cann's papers which are very good.

http://garhildenbrand.com/overview.html

I recommend everyone to take the time to read them.

>

> I attended a Smart Life Forum meeting (here in CA) where a man named Gar

Hillenbrand

> spoke about it and I think has a DVD he made talking with people who used it.

> you might try them and see how to reach him

>

> www.smartlifeforum.org

> val