Guest guest Posted September 8, 1999 Report Share Posted September 8, 1999 Amy... My experience with colloidal silver is that it can be helpful and I have not personally seen any problems with it. The old silver nitrate meds did cause some problems but the concentrations of silver were much higher... Best ....Byron Re: [Lyme-aid] alternative treatment From: amycasca@... (Amy Casca) Hello everyone.... In my last post I forgot also to ask if anyone has experience with any of the alternative treatments.. We were going to go down today if we could and get some collidial silver for my friend Les to try... I don`t know how much this will help,but it would also be something to give him some hope,I am just trying desperately to avoid the chemo on mon... Any advice of that would also be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks Amy Send to -Offtopiconelist messages unrelated to lyme, please. /archives.cgi/ /archives.cgi/Lyme-Documents To unsubscribe, send email to -unsubscribeonelist You may substitute " subscribe " , or " digest " or " normal " for the word " unsubscribe " ( " normal " is the opposite of " digest " ). Leave blank both the message and subject header. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 1999 Report Share Posted September 19, 1999 Hello everyone.... In my last post I forgot also to ask if anyone has experience with any of the alternative treatments.. We were going to go down today if we could and get some collidial silver for my friend Les to try... I don`t know how much this will help,but it would also be something to give him some hope,I am just trying desperately to avoid the chemo on mon... Any advice of that would also be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2002 Report Share Posted March 26, 2002 In a message dated 3/26/02 10:18:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: Can anyone direct me to a few sites that might have dependable alternative treatments? Thanks, jane I don't think there is any such thing as a dependable alternative treatment for AIH. Don't risk your life by putting off getting conventional treatment. With all its drawbacks, it works for most people. I wish that were not the case, but it is. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2004 Report Share Posted August 9, 2004 Thank you for your story. It's good for people to know there are alternative therapies available. We don't allow selling on the board, as it could compromise the integrity of our hopefully unbiased stories, but certainly you can testify as to what works for you and I don't see any harm if you care to take it a little further offline, just use of common sense, which you seem to be following, in not using this as a marketing forum is all we ask. -dz-dan_corleto <dan_corleto@...> wrote: I have hep c and have never received treatment from dr's. I use alternative therapies. I was to the point of near death and now I believe I am a walking miracle. I would like to help others feel better too. I know this sounds like a sales pitch, but it really isn't. If you are interested, please email me at dan_corleto@.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Jane, I had very successful surgery for one hip and two knees at 5'8" and 290 pounds. Marge I have been advised to have double knee surgery and want to wait as long as possible to reduce my weight so that I can minimize complications and also do some sort of exercise...I also have really bad hips...but it looks like the only treatment for that is surgery.. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I first started using a TENS device in 1988. The physio gave me one to take home and try for a week. She was very precice on where I should put it and spent some time showing me how to find the right spot. The orthopeadic surgeon told me it was the placebo effect. I told him I didn't care because it worked for me. More recent research has shown that it does work. A month or so back I was in a lot of pain and put the tens on as I was going to bed. I woke up and couldn't feel it working - thinking that the battery was flat I went to remove the pads without switching the machine off. I got a huge jolt through my thumb. Yes, it had made my hip numb and killed the pain. It seems to need to be put on exactly the right place to work though. Sometimes I have to move it about until I have the right place. Recently I read an article about placebos. This doctor was singing the praises of placebos. He said, if you had a drug that had no side effects, and helped 20% of the patients with all known diseases the drug company would make a fortune. If you feel something works, and it does no harm, it is worth its weight in gold. Don't underestimate the value of the good old placebo. Aussie Margaret - who now everyone will know is quite mad. LOL Re: Alternative treatment > > > It is a type of transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulation (TENS) > device. The company says that it stimulated chondrogenesis in > rabbits but has conducted no studies on humans. The FDA approved it > for sale which doesn't necessarily mean that it works but rather that > it probably won't hurt you. They use a TENS device at my PT center > and it feels good and temporarily relieves pain. There are many > makes and models of the device including the one that you mentioned. > If these devices were effective substitutes for the surgical > replacement of bone-on-bone joints, then the orthopedic surgeons > could lock up their offices and go home. > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone ever heard of the Bio-1000? A unit produced by a company > > called Bionicare, that uses electric impulses to stimulate blood to > > the the knee and in turn reduce paid, and regrow cartalidge. > > > > I have been advised to have double knee surgery and want to wait as > > long as possible to reduce my weight so that I can minimize > > complications and also do some sort of exercise... > > > > I also have really bad hips...but it looks like the only treatment > > for that is surgery.. > > > > Jane > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 My surgeon offered the Bio 1000 as he has had patients postpone surgery for up to four years. This is a little diffrent than the unit the PT people use, it is actually supposed to increase blood flow to the joint, and therefore decrease pain. I have MVP (NY) and they have told me that it is not an approved device, and so will not be covered by my medical insurance. After my next appeal, I will have the decision to make of coveing it myself or live with the pain until I can decide to have surgery. It cost about $5000. Jane Jane Le Kanides http://www.my.tupperware.com/maryjanelk Visit my online Tupperware store Consultant #5460 www.familybooksathome.com We build your dreams with the power of books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I have heard of an electical device that controls pain, I wonder if it's " TENS " ...do you buy them in medical supply shows? Lynn > > > > > > > > > Has anyone ever heard of the Bio-1000? A unit produced > by a company > > > called Bionicare, that uses electric impulses to > stimulate blood to > > > the the knee and in turn reduce paid, and regrow > cartalidge. > > > > > > I have been advised to have double knee surgery and > want to wait as > > > long as possible to reduce my weight so that I can > minimize > > > complications and also do some sort of exercise... > > > > > > I also have really bad hips...but it looks like the > only treatment > > > for that is surgery.. > > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 > > I have a lifetime of experience > > in mainstream " you have choice " invasive medicine. > > > > Whoops, make that " you have NO choice " invasive medicine. Figured that LOL For decades I and my family believed Drs can do no wrong. I think its because everyone ( except black sheep meLOL) is a nurse. now we know differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 The basic reason that alternative protocols appear sometimes to be so expensive is they are part of an " industry " unceasingly under fire from its dominant competitor - conventional medicine. Alternative medicine is not a huge, omnipotent corporate goliath; there is no competitive edge at any juncture. Alternative medicine is in a daily struggle just to survive. There is no government largess and little insurance support. Alternative practitioners are own their own. Obviously there is greed and there is dishonesty in alternative medicine just like any other field, but that isn't the real problem. Much of the above also applies to organic foods. There aren't mass produced. I hear you saying that conventional treatment is affordable for you because you have insurance. Your predicament is echoed by many thousands of cancer victims. It's a disgrace and you have my empathy. However, you owe it to yourself to investigate and discover what you can expect the conventional treatment is going to bring you. Will it restore your health? Although only a medical doctor is allowed by law to give you medical advice, there are plenty of people on this list who are willing and eager to steer you in the right direction. The first step that you have to take is to take charge of your situation. Take control of your treatment; don't hand that control over to anyone else. The second step is to begin to educate yourself, to investigate, to research, and to learn. The most valuable tool that you have at your disposal at the moment is you internet connection. A good place to start would be the archives of this list. Spend as many hours as you can. You'll be led to many, many other places on the net to research, compare and contrast many, many different ideas and solutions. You're likely to become overwhelmed and frustrated at first, but you can't give up. With a determined attitude and a rock-steady focus on your goal (restoring your health) you can be successful. And again, right here on this list, there are folks who will help you and guide you. I wish you all the very best, Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Thanks Jim. Yes I am very frustrated. My current doctor is prescribing another surgery and disection of my neck, not even knowing that there is anything there except the node that they found and biopsied. I noticed that you are using Bellsouth internet. Do you know of an affordable Atlernative Doctor that I can talk to in the Southeast? Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote: The basic reason that alternative protocols appear sometimes to be so expensive is they are part of an " industry " unceasingly under fire from its dominant competitor - conventional medicine. Alternative medicine is not a huge, omnipotent corporate goliath; there is no competitive edge at any juncture. Alternative medicine is in a daily struggle just to survive. There is no government largess and little insurance support. Alternative practitioners are own their own. Obviously there is greed and there is dishonesty in alternative medicine just like any other field, but that isn't the real problem. Much of the above also applies to organic foods. There aren't mass produced. I hear you saying that conventional treatment is affordable for you because you have insurance. Your predicament is echoed by many thousands of cancer victims. It's a disgrace and you have my empathy. However, you owe it to yourself to investigate and discover what you can expect the conventional treatment is going to bring you. Will it restore your health? Although only a medical doctor is allowed by law to give you medical advice, there are plenty of people on this list who are willing and eager to steer you in the right direction. The first step that you have to take is to take charge of your situation. Take control of your treatment; don't hand that control over to anyone else. The second step is to begin to educate yourself, to investigate, to research, and to learn. The most valuable tool that you have at your disposal at the moment is you internet connection. A good place to start would be the archives of this list. Spend as many hours as you can. You'll be led to many, many other places on the net to research, compare and contrast many, many different ideas and solutions. You're likely to become overwhelmed and frustrated at first, but you can't give up. With a determined attitude and a rock-steady focus on your goal (restoring your health) you can be successful. And again, right here on this list, there are folks who will help you and guide you. I wish you all the very best, Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Hi Joanne, I'm personally acquainted with one MD here in Greensboro who practices natural medicine. Unfortunately, to the great distress of his loyal patients, he is retiring this month. I am also acquainted with one naturopath here. I'm not one of her patients, so don't know about her rates. However, if you are near Greensboro, I would be happy to send you her info. I can't vouch for her abilities or successes, but can vouch for her knowledge, which is impressive. I just did a quick search through my Favorites for a link to a national directory that I ran across the other day. Apparently I didn't save it. I'll keep looking. Perhaps someone else has one that they can forward immediately. There are times when surgery is a responsible choice, eg: when one's life is threatened due to a tumor mass that threatens a major organ, or when one suffers unbearable pain due to a tumor mass. As for me, that would be the only time that I would opt for any surgery, and I would follow up with natural treatment. I'll keep looking for a helpful directory. In the meantime, hopefully some others will finish their coffee and provide some knowledge. Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 What Jim said is VERY TRUE. I am not a medical professional, but I work for a cutting edge alternative cancer technology that has a 100% success rate, yet we are sometimes up against a brick wall trying to spread the info in the appropriate target areas. The conventional community won't believe in anything not involving chemo and radiation, the alternative community will not believe in anything that is not organic and herbal-nutrition-based. Although we have long since been FDA approved and have loads of clinical trials, the clinic only in the last couple of years has developed a waiting-list patient volume. They have even done radio interviews with past patients, and they are archived on the company website www.lasemedinc.com GCN Radio does an interview like these with us every couple of months. There are two interviews on the site now, but eventually there will be many. The technology was nearly twenty years in development stages. The establishment would not cooperate, except for an occasional " leave the device with us and we will get back with you " ... (what? so you can reverse-engineer the thing!?). As far as cost goes, it is really not that astronomical. Since most insurance does not cover out of network treatment, the treatment fees are usually based on what the deductable and co-pay would be for a surgical removal. But it's true, proven alternative therapies are up against a Goliath of mainstream propaganda and collusion. Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote: The basic reason that alternative protocols appear sometimes to be so expensive is they are part of an " industry " unceasingly under fire from its dominant competitor - conventional medicine. Alternative medicine is not a huge, omnipotent corporate goliath; there is no competitive edge at any juncture. Alternative medicine is in a daily struggle just to survive. There is no government largess and little insurance support. Alternative practitioners are own their own. Obviously there is greed and there is dishonesty in alternative medicine just like any other field, but that isn't the real problem. Much of the above also applies to organic foods. There aren't mass produced. I hear you saying that conventional treatment is affordable for you because you have insurance. Your predicament is echoed by many thousands of cancer victims. It's a disgrace and you have my empathy. However, you owe it to yourself to investigate and discover what you can expect the conventional treatment is going to bring you. Will it restore your health? Although only a medical doctor is allowed by law to give you medical advice, there are plenty of people on this list who are willing and eager to steer you in the right direction. The first step that you have to take is to take charge of your situation. Take control of your treatment; don't hand that control over to anyone else. The second step is to begin to educate yourself, to investigate, to research, and to learn. The most valuable tool that you have at your disposal at the moment is you internet connection. A good place to start would be the archives of this list. Spend as many hours as you can. You'll be led to many, many other places on the net to research, compare and contrast many, many different ideas and solutions. You're likely to become overwhelmed and frustrated at first, but you can't give up. With a determined attitude and a rock-steady focus on your goal (restoring your health) you can be successful. And again, right here on this list, there are folks who will help you and guide you. I wish you all the very best, Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 What group do you work for Randy? I am considering using the diet (laietrel) that is used at the Oasis Clinic in Mexico. People against Cancer sent it to me. What do you think about it? Thanks for any insight. The reason I said Alternative was so expensive, is getting the booklet from one that was $6,000.00 a week! Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: What Jim said is VERY TRUE. I am not a medical professional, but I work for a cutting edge alternative cancer technology that has a 100% success rate, yet we are sometimes up against a brick wall trying to spread the info in the appropriate target areas. The conventional community won't believe in anything not involving chemo and radiation, the alternative community will not believe in anything that is not organic and herbal-nutrition-based. Although we have long since been FDA approved and have loads of clinical trials, the clinic only in the last couple of years has developed a waiting-list patient volume. They have even done radio interviews with past patients, and they are archived on the company website www.lasemedinc.com GCN Radio does an interview like these with us every couple of months. There are two interviews on the site now, but eventually there will be many. The technology was nearly twenty years in development stages. The establishment would not cooperate, except for an occasional " leave the device with us and we will get back with you " ... (what? so you can reverse-engineer the thing!?). As far as cost goes, it is really not that astronomical. Since most insurance does not cover out of network treatment, the treatment fees are usually based on what the deductable and co-pay would be for a surgical removal. But it's true, proven alternative therapies are up against a Goliath of mainstream propaganda and collusion. Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote: The basic reason that alternative protocols appear sometimes to be so expensive is they are part of an " industry " unceasingly under fire from its dominant competitor - conventional medicine. Alternative medicine is not a huge, omnipotent corporate goliath; there is no competitive edge at any juncture. Alternative medicine is in a daily struggle just to survive. There is no government largess and little insurance support. Alternative practitioners are own their own. Obviously there is greed and there is dishonesty in alternative medicine just like any other field, but that isn't the real problem. Much of the above also applies to organic foods. There aren't mass produced. I hear you saying that conventional treatment is affordable for you because you have insurance. Your predicament is echoed by many thousands of cancer victims. It's a disgrace and you have my empathy. However, you owe it to yourself to investigate and discover what you can expect the conventional treatment is going to bring you. Will it restore your health? Although only a medical doctor is allowed by law to give you medical advice, there are plenty of people on this list who are willing and eager to steer you in the right direction. The first step that you have to take is to take charge of your situation. Take control of your treatment; don't hand that control over to anyone else. The second step is to begin to educate yourself, to investigate, to research, and to learn. The most valuable tool that you have at your disposal at the moment is you internet connection. A good place to start would be the archives of this list. Spend as many hours as you can. You'll be led to many, many other places on the net to research, compare and contrast many, many different ideas and solutions. You're likely to become overwhelmed and frustrated at first, but you can't give up. With a determined attitude and a rock-steady focus on your goal (restoring your health) you can be successful. And again, right here on this list, there are folks who will help you and guide you. I wish you all the very best, Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Thanks for your help jim. I am in Columbia, SC so not for from Greensboro. What do you think about the Oasis Clinic therapy? I found it from the founder of People Against Cancer. I an buy all the meds for $600 or so. Im a little concerned about doing this without a doctor's care. Let me know what you find in Affordable Alternative close by. Thanks again for all your help. BTW: So far all they have found on me is a 1.4 cm node that was malignant from the needle biopsy. I had one removed 2 years ago also. He wants to do a dissection of my neck which seems to me to be unreasonable. I feel fine and he said leaving it there is " risky " . Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote: Hi Joanne, I'm personally acquainted with one MD here in Greensboro who practices natural medicine. Unfortunately, to the great distress of his loyal patients, he is retiring this month. I am also acquainted with one naturopath here. I'm not one of her patients, so don't know about her rates. However, if you are near Greensboro, I would be happy to send you her info. I can't vouch for her abilities or successes, but can vouch for her knowledge, which is impressive. I just did a quick search through my Favorites for a link to a national directory that I ran across the other day. Apparently I didn't save it. I'll keep looking. Perhaps someone else has one that they can forward immediately. There are times when surgery is a responsible choice, eg: when one's life is threatened due to a tumor mass that threatens a major organ, or when one suffers unbearable pain due to a tumor mass. As for me, that would be the only time that I would opt for any surgery, and I would follow up with natural treatment. I'll keep looking for a helpful directory. In the meantime, hopefully some others will finish their coffee and provide some knowledge. Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 In a message dated 4/30/06 7:10:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jes_dean_jo@... writes: > I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have > skyrocketed out of control. > Neither do I and I find it outrageous. We are living in a time where there is a " war " of turf between conventional and alternative and the latter isn't recognized by the 'ruling' power, conventional medicine. Try whatever you can through research and recommendation in the alternative world. There is much available. Make it your 24/7 project...search search search and many on this list have great sites to refer you to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I'm not going to lie, Lase Med's therapy could run that high, depending on how many days of treatment are required... but would you rather pay that amount weekly for the rest of your life on nutritional supplements... or pay it ONCE to have the cancer killed for good, with NO METASTATIC side effects? Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote: What group do you work for Randy? I am considering using the diet (laietrel) that is used at the Oasis Clinic in Mexico. People against Cancer sent it to me. What do you think about it? Thanks for any insight. The reason I said Alternative was so expensive, is getting the booklet from one that was $6,000.00 a week! Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: What Jim said is VERY TRUE. I am not a medical professional, but I work for a cutting edge alternative cancer technology that has a 100% success rate, yet we are sometimes up against a brick wall trying to spread the info in the appropriate target areas. The conventional community won't believe in anything not involving chemo and radiation, the alternative community will not believe in anything that is not organic and herbal-nutrition-based. Although we have long since been FDA approved and have loads of clinical trials, the clinic only in the last couple of years has developed a waiting-list patient volume. They have even done radio interviews with past patients, and they are archived on the company website www.lasemedinc.com GCN Radio does an interview like these with us every couple of months. There are two interviews on the site now, but eventually there will be many. The technology was nearly twenty years in development stages. The establishment would not cooperate, except for an occasional " leave the device with us and we will get back with you " ... (what? so you can reverse-engineer the thing!?). As far as cost goes, it is really not that astronomical. Since most insurance does not cover out of network treatment, the treatment fees are usually based on what the deductable and co-pay would be for a surgical removal. But it's true, proven alternative therapies are up against a Goliath of mainstream propaganda and collusion. Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote: The basic reason that alternative protocols appear sometimes to be so expensive is they are part of an " industry " unceasingly under fire from its dominant competitor - conventional medicine. Alternative medicine is not a huge, omnipotent corporate goliath; there is no competitive edge at any juncture. Alternative medicine is in a daily struggle just to survive. There is no government largess and little insurance support. Alternative practitioners are own their own. Obviously there is greed and there is dishonesty in alternative medicine just like any other field, but that isn't the real problem. Much of the above also applies to organic foods. There aren't mass produced. I hear you saying that conventional treatment is affordable for you because you have insurance. Your predicament is echoed by many thousands of cancer victims. It's a disgrace and you have my empathy. However, you owe it to yourself to investigate and discover what you can expect the conventional treatment is going to bring you. Will it restore your health? Although only a medical doctor is allowed by law to give you medical advice, there are plenty of people on this list who are willing and eager to steer you in the right direction. The first step that you have to take is to take charge of your situation. Take control of your treatment; don't hand that control over to anyone else. The second step is to begin to educate yourself, to investigate, to research, and to learn. The most valuable tool that you have at your disposal at the moment is you internet connection. A good place to start would be the archives of this list. Spend as many hours as you can. You'll be led to many, many other places on the net to research, compare and contrast many, many different ideas and solutions. You're likely to become overwhelmed and frustrated at first, but you can't give up. With a determined attitude and a rock-steady focus on your goal (restoring your health) you can be successful. And again, right here on this list, there are folks who will help you and guide you. I wish you all the very best, Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 When you don't have the money, you don't have as many options Randy, thanks Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: I'm not going to lie, Lase Med's therapy could run that high, depending on how many days of treatment are required... but would you rather pay that amount weekly for the rest of your life on nutritional supplements... or pay it ONCE to have the cancer killed for good, with NO METASTATIC side effects? Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote: What group do you work for Randy? I am considering using the diet (laietrel) that is used at the Oasis Clinic in Mexico. People against Cancer sent it to me. What do you think about it? Thanks for any insight. The reason I said Alternative was so expensive, is getting the booklet from one that was $6,000.00 a week! Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: What Jim said is VERY TRUE. I am not a medical professional, but I work for a cutting edge alternative cancer technology that has a 100% success rate, yet we are sometimes up against a brick wall trying to spread the info in the appropriate target areas. The conventional community won't believe in anything not involving chemo and radiation, the alternative community will not believe in anything that is not organic and herbal-nutrition-based. Although we have long since been FDA approved and have loads of clinical trials, the clinic only in the last couple of years has developed a waiting-list patient volume. They have even done radio interviews with past patients, and they are archived on the company website www.lasemedinc.com GCN Radio does an interview like these with us every couple of months. There are two interviews on the site now, but eventually there will be many. The technology was nearly twenty years in development stages. The establishment would not cooperate, except for an occasional " leave the device with us and we will get back with you " ... (what? so you can reverse-engineer the thing!?). As far as cost goes, it is really not that astronomical. Since most insurance does not cover out of network treatment, the treatment fees are usually based on what the deductable and co-pay would be for a surgical removal. But it's true, proven alternative therapies are up against a Goliath of mainstream propaganda and collusion. Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote: The basic reason that alternative protocols appear sometimes to be so expensive is they are part of an " industry " unceasingly under fire from its dominant competitor - conventional medicine. Alternative medicine is not a huge, omnipotent corporate goliath; there is no competitive edge at any juncture. Alternative medicine is in a daily struggle just to survive. There is no government largess and little insurance support. Alternative practitioners are own their own. Obviously there is greed and there is dishonesty in alternative medicine just like any other field, but that isn't the real problem. Much of the above also applies to organic foods. There aren't mass produced. I hear you saying that conventional treatment is affordable for you because you have insurance. Your predicament is echoed by many thousands of cancer victims. It's a disgrace and you have my empathy. However, you owe it to yourself to investigate and discover what you can expect the conventional treatment is going to bring you. Will it restore your health? Although only a medical doctor is allowed by law to give you medical advice, there are plenty of people on this list who are willing and eager to steer you in the right direction. The first step that you have to take is to take charge of your situation. Take control of your treatment; don't hand that control over to anyone else. The second step is to begin to educate yourself, to investigate, to research, and to learn. The most valuable tool that you have at your disposal at the moment is you internet connection. A good place to start would be the archives of this list. Spend as many hours as you can. You'll be led to many, many other places on the net to research, compare and contrast many, many different ideas and solutions. You're likely to become overwhelmed and frustrated at first, but you can't give up. With a determined attitude and a rock-steady focus on your goal (restoring your health) you can be successful. And again, right here on this list, there are folks who will help you and guide you. I wish you all the very best, Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 please give me a call i know of a place that can help you. my son was diagnoised in 1991 with terminal brain cancer, they were able to get rid of the tumor within a year. i need additional information from you in order to help you. i know of a place that has been around for many years and helps those who have limited or no funds at all. PLEASE CALL ME ASAP AT: 269-876-8475. if you happen to get my voice mail please leave your name and a number where i can reach you. i look forward to hearing from you and dont worry about any time zone differences. PLEASE CALL ASAP. Thanks, Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote: When you don't have the money, you don't have as many options Randy, thanks Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: I'm not going to lie, Lase Med's therapy could run that high, depending on how many days of treatment are required... but would you rather pay that amount weekly for the rest of your life on nutritional supplements... or pay it ONCE to have the cancer killed for good, with NO METASTATIC side effects? Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote: What group do you work for Randy? I am considering using the diet (laietrel) that is used at the Oasis Clinic in Mexico. People against Cancer sent it to me. What do you think about it? Thanks for any insight. The reason I said Alternative was so expensive, is getting the booklet from one that was $6,000.00 a week! Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: What Jim said is VERY TRUE. I am not a medical professional, but I work for a cutting edge alternative cancer technology that has a 100% success rate, yet we are sometimes up against a brick wall trying to spread the info in the appropriate target areas. The conventional community won't believe in anything not involving chemo and radiation, the alternative community will not believe in anything that is not organic and herbal-nutrition-based. Although we have long since been FDA approved and have loads of clinical trials, the clinic only in the last couple of years has developed a waiting-list patient volume. They have even done radio interviews with past patients, and they are archived on the company website www.lasemedinc.com GCN Radio does an interview like these with us every couple of months. There are two interviews on the site now, but eventually there will be many. The technology was nearly twenty years in development stages. The establishment would not cooperate, except for an occasional " leave the device with us and we will get back with you " ... (what? so you can reverse-engineer the thing!?). As far as cost goes, it is really not that astronomical. Since most insurance does not cover out of network treatment, the treatment fees are usually based on what the deductable and co-pay would be for a surgical removal. But it's true, proven alternative therapies are up against a Goliath of mainstream propaganda and collusion. Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote: The basic reason that alternative protocols appear sometimes to be so expensive is they are part of an " industry " unceasingly under fire from its dominant competitor - conventional medicine. Alternative medicine is not a huge, omnipotent corporate goliath; there is no competitive edge at any juncture. Alternative medicine is in a daily struggle just to survive. There is no government largess and little insurance support. Alternative practitioners are own their own. Obviously there is greed and there is dishonesty in alternative medicine just like any other field, but that isn't the real problem. Much of the above also applies to organic foods. There aren't mass produced. I hear you saying that conventional treatment is affordable for you because you have insurance. Your predicament is echoed by many thousands of cancer victims. It's a disgrace and you have my empathy. However, you owe it to yourself to investigate and discover what you can expect the conventional treatment is going to bring you. Will it restore your health? Although only a medical doctor is allowed by law to give you medical advice, there are plenty of people on this list who are willing and eager to steer you in the right direction. The first step that you have to take is to take charge of your situation. Take control of your treatment; don't hand that control over to anyone else. The second step is to begin to educate yourself, to investigate, to research, and to learn. The most valuable tool that you have at your disposal at the moment is you internet connection. A good place to start would be the archives of this list. Spend as many hours as you can. You'll be led to many, many other places on the net to research, compare and contrast many, many different ideas and solutions. You're likely to become overwhelmed and frustrated at first, but you can't give up. With a determined attitude and a rock-steady focus on your goal (restoring your health) you can be successful. And again, right here on this list, there are folks who will help you and guide you. I wish you all the very best, Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Don't eat the apricot seeds! They are poisonous and may KILL you!Why do you think they put me in jail? http://seedoffaith.com JV Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote: When you don't have the money, you don't have as many options Randy, thanks Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: I'm not going to lie, Lase Med's therapy could run that high, depending on how many days of treatment are required... but would you rather pay that amount weekly for the rest of your life on nutritional supplements... or pay it ONCE to have the cancer killed for good, with NO METASTATIC side effects? Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote: What group do you work for Randy? I am considering using the diet (laietrel) that is used at the Oasis Clinic in Mexico. People against Cancer sent it to me. What do you think about it? Thanks for any insight. The reason I said Alternative was so expensive, is getting the booklet from one that was $6,000.00 a week! Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: What Jim said is VERY TRUE. I am not a medical professional, but I work for a cutting edge alternative cancer technology that has a 100% success rate, yet we are sometimes up against a brick wall trying to spread the info in the appropriate target areas. The conventional community won't believe in anything not involving chemo and radiation, the alternative community will not believe in anything that is not organic and herbal-nutrition-based. Although we have long since been FDA approved and have loads of clinical trials, the clinic only in the last couple of years has developed a waiting-list patient volume. They have even done radio interviews with past patients, and they are archived on the company website www.lasemedinc.com GCN Radio does an interview like these with us every couple of months. There are two interviews on the site now, but eventually there will be many. The technology was nearly twenty years in development stages. The establishment would not cooperate, except for an occasional " leave the device with us and we will get back with you " ... (what? so you can reverse-engineer the thing!?). As far as cost goes, it is really not that astronomical. Since most insurance does not cover out of network treatment, the treatment fees are usually based on what the deductable and co-pay would be for a surgical removal. But it's true, proven alternative therapies are up against a Goliath of mainstream propaganda and collusion. Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote: The basic reason that alternative protocols appear sometimes to be so expensive is they are part of an " industry " unceasingly under fire from its dominant competitor - conventional medicine. Alternative medicine is not a huge, omnipotent corporate goliath; there is no competitive edge at any juncture. Alternative medicine is in a daily struggle just to survive. There is no government largess and little insurance support. Alternative practitioners are own their own. Obviously there is greed and there is dishonesty in alternative medicine just like any other field, but that isn't the real problem. Much of the above also applies to organic foods. There aren't mass produced. I hear you saying that conventional treatment is affordable for you because you have insurance. Your predicament is echoed by many thousands of cancer victims. It's a disgrace and you have my empathy. However, you owe it to yourself to investigate and discover what you can expect the conventional treatment is going to bring you. Will it restore your health? Although only a medical doctor is allowed by law to give you medical advice, there are plenty of people on this list who are willing and eager to steer you in the right direction. The first step that you have to take is to take charge of your situation. Take control of your treatment; don't hand that control over to anyone else. The second step is to begin to educate yourself, to investigate, to research, and to learn. The most valuable tool that you have at your disposal at the moment is you internet connection. A good place to start would be the archives of this list. Spend as many hours as you can. You'll be led to many, many other places on the net to research, compare and contrast many, many different ideas and solutions. You're likely to become overwhelmed and frustrated at first, but you can't give up. With a determined attitude and a rock-steady focus on your goal (restoring your health) you can be successful. And again, right here on this list, there are folks who will help you and guide you. I wish you all the very best, Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 Additional information about my story and how i got started in helping others. PLEASE ANYONE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME ANYTIME, REGARDLESS OF ANY TIME ZONE DIFFERENCES! 269-876-8475. I know of a place that does not turn anyone away. PLEASE CALL ME ASAP. I AM HERE TO HELP ALL THAT NEED IT. I have been helping people for over 14 years. In November 1990, Virginia Hauf’s son, Steve, complains of double vision. An ophthalmologist examines Steve, but finds no problems with his eyes. Further tests are given to determine the cause of the trouble, and doctors find a tumor at the base of Steve’s brain; the tumor proves to be cancerous. The doctors decide to perform surgery, which runs the risk of paralyzing him for life. When they go in to remove the tumor, they find two masses, one of which has invaded his brain stem and is inoperable. Tissue samples are sent to the Mayo Clinic; the tumors are fast-growing and incurable. With the exception of experimental radiation and chemotherapy—which would likely only extend Steve’s life by thirty days—the doctors can offer nothing. They estimate he has about three months to live and send him home with his mother, telling her to cherish the time he has left. Virginia is notified that the man she has been having a relationship with has been involved in a murder and has taken his own life as well. Needless to say, Steve’s family is devastated; Virginia, determined not to let her son die, begins doing research. She discovers that the type of chemotherapy offered to Steve will not pass the blood–brain barrier and is therefore useless; radiation would only incapacitate him. Virginia presses on. She recalls a family friend once telling her that nature held a cure for every disease, so she goes to the library to research Laetrile, a controversial cancer treatment unavailable in the United States and labeled “quackery” by the American Cancer Society in the early 1970s. In a book published during that time, Virginia finds a listing of a doctor who uses Laetrile in his treatments; she locates his clinic in Mexico and decides to bring Steve there. Because Steve’s treatment is unconventional, Virginia’s health insurance will not cover any of its cost; she’s on her own. A single parent, she finds it difficult to procure the money she needs to fund Steve’s treatment, which includes injections of a Laetrile-based serum, vitamins, and a macrobiotic diet. Her family assists them and Steve’s school runs a fundraiser. Amazingly, many people rally to their side, and Virginia and Steve manage to gather enough money to pay for treatment. They spend six surreal weeks at a Mexican clinic where they are in the company of a cosmetic mogul, an editor of fitness magazine, and a U.S. senator and his son—all of whom are receiving care. Following therapy in Mexico, Virginia takes Steve for an MRI and finds that his tumor is shrinking. But soon after, she is arrested for child abuse, child neglect, child endangerment, mail fraud, and wire fraud. She has been issued a summons to testify at a childhood classmate’s murder trial, a serial killer. After being threatened, losing her job, and being contacted by hundreds of families seeking advice and similar treatment, Virginia has decided to share her story in this 75,000-word manuscript, Saving My Son: Surviving Cancer. Virginia’s son, Steve, is 28 now and has been cancer-free for 12 years. MARKET ANALYSIS Target Audience Saving My Son: Surviving Cancer tells the story of millions suffering cancer for which there isn’t a cure or effective treatment. The book is written to appeal to those afflicted by the disease, family members and friends, and interested readers who may not have any experience with cancer survival. The book will also interest health care providers and those working directly with cancer patients. Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote: When you don't have the money, you don't have as many options Randy, thanks Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: I'm not going to lie, Lase Med's therapy could run that high, depending on how many days of treatment are required... but would you rather pay that amount weekly for the rest of your life on nutritional supplements... or pay it ONCE to have the cancer killed for good, with NO METASTATIC side effects? Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote: What group do you work for Randy? I am considering using the diet (laietrel) that is used at the Oasis Clinic in Mexico. People against Cancer sent it to me. What do you think about it? Thanks for any insight. The reason I said Alternative was so expensive, is getting the booklet from one that was $6,000.00 a week! Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: What Jim said is VERY TRUE. I am not a medical professional, but I work for a cutting edge alternative cancer technology that has a 100% success rate, yet we are sometimes up against a brick wall trying to spread the info in the appropriate target areas. The conventional community won't believe in anything not involving chemo and radiation, the alternative community will not believe in anything that is not organic and herbal-nutrition-based. Although we have long since been FDA approved and have loads of clinical trials, the clinic only in the last couple of years has developed a waiting-list patient volume. They have even done radio interviews with past patients, and they are archived on the company website www.lasemedinc.com GCN Radio does an interview like these with us every couple of months. There are two interviews on the site now, but eventually there will be many. The technology was nearly twenty years in development stages. The establishment would not cooperate, except for an occasional " leave the device with us and we will get back with you " ... (what? so you can reverse-engineer the thing!?). As far as cost goes, it is really not that astronomical. Since most insurance does not cover out of network treatment, the treatment fees are usually based on what the deductable and co-pay would be for a surgical removal. But it's true, proven alternative therapies are up against a Goliath of mainstream propaganda and collusion. Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote: The basic reason that alternative protocols appear sometimes to be so expensive is they are part of an " industry " unceasingly under fire from its dominant competitor - conventional medicine. Alternative medicine is not a huge, omnipotent corporate goliath; there is no competitive edge at any juncture. Alternative medicine is in a daily struggle just to survive. There is no government largess and little insurance support. Alternative practitioners are own their own. Obviously there is greed and there is dishonesty in alternative medicine just like any other field, but that isn't the real problem. Much of the above also applies to organic foods. There aren't mass produced. I hear you saying that conventional treatment is affordable for you because you have insurance. Your predicament is echoed by many thousands of cancer victims. It's a disgrace and you have my empathy. However, you owe it to yourself to investigate and discover what you can expect the conventional treatment is going to bring you. Will it restore your health? Although only a medical doctor is allowed by law to give you medical advice, there are plenty of people on this list who are willing and eager to steer you in the right direction. The first step that you have to take is to take charge of your situation. Take control of your treatment; don't hand that control over to anyone else. The second step is to begin to educate yourself, to investigate, to research, and to learn. The most valuable tool that you have at your disposal at the moment is you internet connection. A good place to start would be the archives of this list. Spend as many hours as you can. You'll be led to many, many other places on the net to research, compare and contrast many, many different ideas and solutions. You're likely to become overwhelmed and frustrated at first, but you can't give up. With a determined attitude and a rock-steady focus on your goal (restoring your health) you can be successful. And again, right here on this list, there are folks who will help you and guide you. I wish you all the very best, Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 I'm not going to argue a bit here... if you go to our company's website, you will see that our procedure does have limitations, and internal cancers like brain-related are not being treated at this time, due to the neccessity of surgical teams which at this time we are not affiliated with. (In theory though, it would be feasable.) Of course I believe in this company, and I have seen amazing results in every patient I have met; but we don't make claims that we cannot substantiate. Hauf <jennyhauf@...> wrote: Additional information about my story and how i got started in helping others. PLEASE ANYONE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME ANYTIME, REGARDLESS OF ANY TIME ZONE DIFFERENCES! 269-876-8475. I know of a place that does not turn anyone away. PLEASE CALL ME ASAP. I AM HERE TO HELP ALL THAT NEED IT. I have been helping people for over 14 years. In November 1990, Virginia Hauf’s son, Steve, complains of double vision. An ophthalmologist examines Steve, but finds no problems with his eyes. Further tests are given to determine the cause of the trouble, and doctors find a tumor at the base of Steve’s brain; the tumor proves to be cancerous. The doctors decide to perform surgery, which runs the risk of paralyzing him for life. When they go in to remove the tumor, they find two masses, one of which has invaded his brain stem and is inoperable. Tissue samples are sent to the Mayo Clinic; the tumors are fast-growing and incurable. With the exception of experimental radiation and chemotherapy—which would likely only extend Steve’s life by thirty days—the doctors can offer nothing. They estimate he has about three months to live and send him home with his mother, telling her to cherish the time he has left. Virginia is notified that the man she has been having a relationship with has been involved in a murder and has taken his own life as well. Needless to say, Steve’s family is devastated; Virginia, determined not to let her son die, begins doing research. She discovers that the type of chemotherapy offered to Steve will not pass the blood–brain barrier and is therefore useless; radiation would only incapacitate him. Virginia presses on. She recalls a family friend once telling her that nature held a cure for every disease, so she goes to the library to research Laetrile, a controversial cancer treatment unavailable in the United States and labeled “quackery” by the American Cancer Society in the early 1970s. In a book published during that time, Virginia finds a listing of a doctor who uses Laetrile in his treatments; she locates his clinic in Mexico and decides to bring Steve there. Because Steve’s treatment is unconventional, Virginia’s health insurance will not cover any of its cost; she’s on her own. A single parent, she finds it difficult to procure the money she needs to fund Steve’s treatment, which includes injections of a Laetrile-based serum, vitamins, and a macrobiotic diet. Her family assists them and Steve’s school runs a fundraiser. Amazingly, many people rally to their side, and Virginia and Steve manage to gather enough money to pay for treatment. They spend six surreal weeks at a Mexican clinic where they are in the company of a cosmetic mogul, an editor of fitness magazine, and a U.S. senator and his son—all of whom are receiving care. Following therapy in Mexico, Virginia takes Steve for an MRI and finds that his tumor is shrinking. But soon after, she is arrested for child abuse, child neglect, child endangerment, mail fraud, and wire fraud. She has been issued a summons to testify at a childhood classmate’s murder trial, a serial killer. After being threatened, losing her job, and being contacted by hundreds of families seeking advice and similar treatment, Virginia has decided to share her story in this 75,000-word manuscript, Saving My Son: Surviving Cancer. Virginia’s son, Steve, is 28 now and has been cancer-free for 12 years. MARKET ANALYSIS Target Audience Saving My Son: Surviving Cancer tells the story of millions suffering cancer for which there isn’t a cure or effective treatment. The book is written to appeal to those afflicted by the disease, family members and friends, and interested readers who may not have any experience with cancer survival. The book will also interest health care providers and those working directly with cancer patients. Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote: When you don't have the money, you don't have as many options Randy, thanks Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: I'm not going to lie, Lase Med's therapy could run that high, depending on how many days of treatment are required... but would you rather pay that amount weekly for the rest of your life on nutritional supplements... or pay it ONCE to have the cancer killed for good, with NO METASTATIC side effects? Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote: What group do you work for Randy? I am considering using the diet (laietrel) that is used at the Oasis Clinic in Mexico. People against Cancer sent it to me. What do you think about it? Thanks for any insight. The reason I said Alternative was so expensive, is getting the booklet from one that was $6,000.00 a week! Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: What Jim said is VERY TRUE. I am not a medical professional, but I work for a cutting edge alternative cancer technology that has a 100% success rate, yet we are sometimes up against a brick wall trying to spread the info in the appropriate target areas. The conventional community won't believe in anything not involving chemo and radiation, the alternative community will not believe in anything that is not organic and herbal-nutrition-based. Although we have long since been FDA approved and have loads of clinical trials, the clinic only in the last couple of years has developed a waiting-list patient volume. They have even done radio interviews with past patients, and they are archived on the company website www.lasemedinc.com GCN Radio does an interview like these with us every couple of months. There are two interviews on the site now, but eventually there will be many. The technology was nearly twenty years in development stages. The establishment would not cooperate, except for an occasional " leave the device with us and we will get back with you " ... (what? so you can reverse-engineer the thing!?). As far as cost goes, it is really not that astronomical. Since most insurance does not cover out of network treatment, the treatment fees are usually based on what the deductable and co-pay would be for a surgical removal. But it's true, proven alternative therapies are up against a Goliath of mainstream propaganda and collusion. Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote: The basic reason that alternative protocols appear sometimes to be so expensive is they are part of an " industry " unceasingly under fire from its dominant competitor - conventional medicine. Alternative medicine is not a huge, omnipotent corporate goliath; there is no competitive edge at any juncture. Alternative medicine is in a daily struggle just to survive. There is no government largess and little insurance support. Alternative practitioners are own their own. Obviously there is greed and there is dishonesty in alternative medicine just like any other field, but that isn't the real problem. Much of the above also applies to organic foods. There aren't mass produced. I hear you saying that conventional treatment is affordable for you because you have insurance. Your predicament is echoed by many thousands of cancer victims. It's a disgrace and you have my empathy. However, you owe it to yourself to investigate and discover what you can expect the conventional treatment is going to bring you. Will it restore your health? Although only a medical doctor is allowed by law to give you medical advice, there are plenty of people on this list who are willing and eager to steer you in the right direction. The first step that you have to take is to take charge of your situation. Take control of your treatment; don't hand that control over to anyone else. The second step is to begin to educate yourself, to investigate, to research, and to learn. The most valuable tool that you have at your disposal at the moment is you internet connection. A good place to start would be the archives of this list. Spend as many hours as you can. You'll be led to many, many other places on the net to research, compare and contrast many, many different ideas and solutions. You're likely to become overwhelmed and frustrated at first, but you can't give up. With a determined attitude and a rock-steady focus on your goal (restoring your health) you can be successful. And again, right here on this list, there are folks who will help you and guide you. I wish you all the very best, Jim Alternative Treatment I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion. I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed out of control. --------------------------------- goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 In a message dated 4/30/06 8:45:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jes_dean_jo@... writes: > Do you know of an affordable Atlernative Doctor that I can talk to in the > Southeast? > would you relocate temporarily for an alternative doctor that takes insurance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 In a message dated 4/30/06 8:45:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jes_dean_jo@... writes: > Do you know of an affordable Atlernative Doctor that I can talk to in the > Southeast? > Are you using the Budwig diet and are you familiar with the Hulda information, Essica etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2006 Report Share Posted April 30, 2006 In a message dated 4/30/06 9:50:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, rsimmons133@... writes: > They have even done radio interviews with past patients, and they are > archived on the company website > www.lasemedinc.com > I checked out this website. It doesn't give much detail about the product, it's history and data about how it works. Do you know where this can be found? It also led me to a link for Kardovit. Is anyone familiar with this product and/or used it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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