alternative treatment

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/30/06 10:53:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> Lase Med's therapy could run that high, depending on how many days of

> treatment are required... but would you rather pay that amount weekly for the

> rest of your life on nutritional supplements... or pay it ONCE to have the

> cancer killed for good, with NO METASTATIC side effects?

>

Are you saying that for $6000 this person can be cured of his cancer forever?

Again, before he gets his hopes up, can you get up some backup proof?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

please give me a call there is a place in california, non profit, that uses

alternative therapy for all types of cancer. on one is turned down to do their

lack of ability to pay. please call me, anyone, ASAP for additional

information, do not worry about any time zone differences. you can reach me at:

269-876-8475. I AM HERE TO HELP YOU, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS MAKE THE CALL.

szukidavis@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/30/06 7:10:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

jes_dean_jo@... writes:

> It is a frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional

> therapy due to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that

> route. I am trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion.

>

There is a vast difference between Bryzynski and other treatments. There is

a place in NYC called Alternative Cancer Therapy that charges NOTHING! You

can juice and you can order herbs and suppliments on your own. You can go to a

mexican clinic. There are alternatives to Dr, Byrzinski. He is among the

best for brain cancer but there are alternatives for Thyroid cancer.

Where are you located?

[Guest guest]

Hi Randy,

I am not making any promises to anyone. i believe that any therapy,

alternative, or conventional, only works on the persons biological response to

any treatment. it just takes finding the one that works best for the individual

person.

Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote:

I'm not going to argue a bit here... if you go to our company's website, you

will see that our procedure does have limitations, and internal cancers like

brain-related are not being treated at this time, due to the neccessity of

surgical teams which at this time we are not affiliated with. (In theory though,

it would be feasable.) Of course I believe in this company, and I have seen

amazing results in every patient I have met; but we don't make claims that we

cannot substantiate.

Hauf <jennyhauf@...> wrote: Additional information about my story

and how i got started in helping others. PLEASE ANYONE FEEL FREE TO CALL ME

ANYTIME, REGARDLESS OF ANY TIME ZONE DIFFERENCES! 269-876-8475. I know of a

place that does not turn anyone away. PLEASE CALL ME ASAP. I AM HERE TO HELP

ALL THAT NEED IT. I have been helping people for over 14 years.

In November 1990, Virginia Hauf’s son, Steve, complains of double vision. An

ophthalmologist examines Steve, but finds no problems with his eyes. Further

tests are given to determine the cause of the trouble, and doctors find a tumor

at the base of Steve’s brain; the tumor proves to be cancerous. The doctors

decide to perform surgery, which runs the risk of paralyzing him for life. When

they go in to remove the tumor, they find two masses, one of which has invaded

his brain stem and is inoperable. Tissue samples are sent to the Mayo Clinic;

the tumors are fast-growing and incurable. With the exception of experimental

radiation and chemotherapy—which would likely only extend Steve’s life by thirty

days—the doctors can offer nothing. They estimate he has about three months to

live and send him home with his mother, telling her to cherish the time he has

left. Virginia is notified that the man she has been having a relationship with

has been involved in a murder and has

taken his own life as well.

Needless to say, Steve’s family is devastated; Virginia, determined not to let

her son die, begins doing research. She discovers that the type of chemotherapy

offered to Steve will not pass the blood–brain barrier and is therefore useless;

radiation would only incapacitate him. Virginia presses on.

She recalls a family friend once telling her that nature held a cure for every

disease, so she goes to the library to research Laetrile, a controversial cancer

treatment unavailable in the United States and labeled “quackery” by the

American Cancer Society in the early 1970s. In a book published during that

time, Virginia finds a listing of a doctor who uses Laetrile in his treatments;

she locates his clinic in Mexico and decides to bring Steve there.

Because Steve’s treatment is unconventional, Virginia’s health insurance will

not cover any of its cost; she’s on her own. A single parent, she finds it

difficult to procure the money she needs to fund Steve’s treatment, which

includes injections of a Laetrile-based serum, vitamins, and a macrobiotic diet.

Her family assists them and Steve’s school runs a fundraiser. Amazingly, many

people rally to their side, and Virginia and Steve manage to gather enough money

to pay for treatment. They spend six surreal weeks at a Mexican clinic where

they are in the company of a cosmetic mogul, an editor of fitness magazine, and

a U.S. senator and his son—all of whom are receiving care.

Following therapy in Mexico, Virginia takes Steve for an MRI and finds that

his tumor is shrinking. But soon after, she is arrested for child abuse, child

neglect, child endangerment, mail fraud, and wire fraud. She has been issued a

summons to testify at a childhood classmate’s murder trial, a serial killer.

After being threatened, losing her job, and being contacted by hundreds of

families seeking advice and similar treatment, Virginia has decided to share her

story in this 75,000-word manuscript, Saving My Son: Surviving Cancer.

Virginia’s son, Steve, is 28 now and has been cancer-free for 12 years.

MARKET ANALYSIS

Target Audience

Saving My Son: Surviving Cancer tells the story of millions suffering cancer

for which there isn’t a cure or effective treatment. The book is written to

appeal to those afflicted by the disease, family members and friends, and

interested readers who may not have any experience with cancer survival. The

book will also interest health care providers and those working directly with

cancer patients.

Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote:

When you don't have the money, you don't have as many options Randy, thanks

Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote: I'm not going to lie, Lase Med's

therapy could run that high, depending on how many days of treatment are

required... but would you rather pay that amount weekly for the rest of your

life on nutritional supplements... or pay it ONCE to have the cancer killed for

good, with NO METASTATIC side effects?

Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote: What group do you work for Randy? I

am considering using the diet (laietrel) that is used at the Oasis Clinic in

Mexico. People against Cancer sent it to me. What do you think about it? Thanks

for any insight. The reason I said Alternative was so expensive, is getting the

booklet from one that was $6,000.00 a week!

Randy <rsimmons133@...> wrote:

What Jim said is VERY TRUE. I am not a medical professional, but I work for a

cutting edge alternative cancer technology that has a 100% success rate, yet we

are sometimes up against a brick wall trying to spread the info in the

appropriate target areas. The conventional community won't believe in anything

not involving chemo and radiation, the alternative community will not believe in

anything that is not organic and herbal-nutrition-based. Although we have long

since been FDA approved and have loads of clinical trials, the clinic only in

the last couple of years has developed a waiting-list patient volume. They have

even done radio interviews with past patients, and they are archived on the

company website

www.lasemedinc.com

GCN Radio does an interview like these with us every couple of months. There

are two interviews on the site now, but eventually there will be many.

The technology was nearly twenty years in development stages. The

establishment would not cooperate, except for an occasional " leave the device

with us and we will get back with you " ... (what? so you can reverse-engineer the

thing!?).

As far as cost goes, it is really not that astronomical. Since most insurance

does not cover out of network treatment, the treatment fees are usually based on

what the deductable and co-pay would be for a surgical removal.

But it's true, proven alternative therapies are up against a Goliath of

mainstream propaganda and collusion.

Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote:

The basic reason that alternative protocols appear sometimes to be so

expensive is they are part of an " industry " unceasingly under fire from its

dominant competitor - conventional medicine. Alternative medicine is not a

huge, omnipotent corporate goliath; there is no competitive edge at any

juncture. Alternative medicine is in a daily struggle just to survive. There

is no government largess and little insurance support. Alternative

practitioners are own their own. Obviously there is greed and there is

dishonesty in alternative medicine just like any other field, but that isn't

the real problem.

Much of the above also applies to organic foods. There aren't mass produced.

I hear you saying that conventional treatment is affordable for you because

you have insurance. Your predicament is echoed by many thousands of cancer

victims. It's a disgrace and you have my empathy. However, you owe it to

yourself to investigate and discover what you can expect the conventional

treatment is going to bring you. Will it restore your health?

Although only a medical doctor is allowed by law to give you medical advice,

there are plenty of people on this list who are willing and eager to steer

you in the right direction. The first step that you have to take is to take

charge of your situation. Take control of your treatment; don't hand that

control over to anyone else. The second step is to begin to educate

yourself, to investigate, to research, and to learn. The most valuable tool

that you have at your disposal at the moment is you internet connection. A

good place to start would be the archives of this list. Spend as many hours

as you can. You'll be led to many, many other places on the net to research,

compare and contrast many, many different ideas and solutions. You're likely

to become overwhelmed and frustrated at first, but you can't give up. With a

determined attitude and a rock-steady focus on your goal (restoring your

health) you can be successful. And again, right here on this list, there are

folks who will help you and guide you.

I wish you all the very best,

Jim

Alternative Treatment

I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with

some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from

Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he

charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a

frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due

to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am

trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion.

I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a

document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was

affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's

care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't

understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed

out of control.

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goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/30/06 8:22:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jes_dean_jo@... writes:

> Sure, depends on how far?

>

Woodstock, NY

But I think you should talk to first. She seems very knowledgeable

with great resources.

[Guest guest]

Hello again, Joanne,

See how much attention you've already generated!

I went to school at USC and lived there twice afterward. Although I've been

in Greensboro for 30 years, from what I remember of Columbia and its

progressive atmosphere, I'd bet that everything you need is right there.

Towns are different. Winston Salem, for example, just up the road, has much

more to offer in lots of areas than Greensboro, which is larger.

I would suggest that you make that call to ASAP. She's coming from

experience. I'm also looking for a response from one other person. In the

meantime, I'm still digging.

Oh, and I hope that people realize that flying all over the country isn't an

easy option for you.

Jim

Alternative Treatment

I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with

some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from

Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he

charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a

frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due

to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am

trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion.

I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a

document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was

affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's

care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't

understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed

out of control.

---------------------------------

goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.

[Guest guest]

Hi, I am in South Carolina. What do you think of LasMed? I have been looking

everywhere and it seems like I am getting more confused!

szukidavis@... wrote: In a message dated 4/30/06 7:10:53 AM Eastern

Daylight Time,

jes_dean_jo@... writes:

> I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have

> skyrocketed out of control.

>

Neither do I and I find it outrageous. We are living in a time where there

is a " war " of turf between conventional and alternative and the latter isn't

recognized by the 'ruling' power, conventional medicine.

Try whatever you can through research and recommendation in the alternative

world. There is much available. Make it your 24/7 project...search search

search and many on this list have great sites to refer you to.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim and everyone,

Thanks for the feedback. I also have sources that will fly people at no cost

to get the treatment they are seeking. Please if anyone needs my help let me

know, I have dedicated my life to helping all those who are seeking help.

Again, you can reach me at: 269-876-8475, if you get my voice please leave your

name and a number where i can reach you. Do not worry about any time zone

differences, when a person is seeking help it does not matter what time it is.

Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote:

Hello again, Joanne,

See how much attention you've already generated!

I went to school at USC and lived there twice afterward. Although I've been

in Greensboro for 30 years, from what I remember of Columbia and its

progressive atmosphere, I'd bet that everything you need is right there.

Towns are different. Winston Salem, for example, just up the road, has much

more to offer in lots of areas than Greensboro, which is larger.

I would suggest that you make that call to ASAP. She's coming from

experience. I'm also looking for a response from one other person. In the

meantime, I'm still digging.

Oh, and I hope that people realize that flying all over the country isn't an

easy option for you.

Jim

Alternative Treatment

I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with

some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from

Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he

charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a

frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due

to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am

trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion.

I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a

document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was

affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's

care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't

understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed

out of control.

---------------------------------

goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.

[Guest guest]

Joanne,

Please call me ASAP and i can help you with all the confusion. Again, my

number is: 269-876-8475, just make the call ASAP, if you get my voice mail

PLEASE LEAVE YOUR NAME AND A NUMBER THAT I CAN REACH YOU AT.

Joanne Cook <jes_dean_jo@...> wrote:

Hi, I am in South Carolina. What do you think of LasMed? I have been looking

everywhere and it seems like I am getting more confused!

szukidavis@... wrote: In a message dated 4/30/06 7:10:53 AM Eastern

Daylight Time,

jes_dean_jo@... writes:

> I don't understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have

> skyrocketed out of control.

>

Neither do I and I find it outrageous. We are living in a time where there

is a " war " of turf between conventional and alternative and the latter isn't

recognized by the 'ruling' power, conventional medicine.

Try whatever you can through research and recommendation in the alternative

world. There is much available. Make it your 24/7 project...search search

search and many on this list have great sites to refer you to.

[Guest guest]

I have not started anything yet

szukidavis@... wrote: In a message dated 4/30/06 8:45:03 AM Eastern

Daylight Time,

jes_dean_jo@... writes:

> Do you know of an affordable Atlernative Doctor that I can talk to in the

> Southeast?

>

Are you using the Budwig diet and are you familiar with the Hulda

information, Essica etc?

[Guest guest]

Sure, depends on how far?

szukidavis@... wrote: In a message dated 4/30/06 8:45:03 AM Eastern

Daylight Time,

jes_dean_jo@... writes:

> Do you know of an affordable Atlernative Doctor that I can talk to in the

> Southeast?

>

would you relocate temporarily for an alternative doctor that takes

insurance?

[Guest guest]

Hi Jim:

We are BIG Gamecock Fans. We had an unbelievable baseball game today against

Mississippi State. We won 2 out of three. I knew I liked you )

There was only one Alternative Doctor here and I called and the phone was

disconnected, so I don't know of anyone else. I will call and talk to her

too. I talked to her and the clinic in CA briefly. I just got all of my medical

records (a book).

I got an email from a Dr at LasMed. She said that " cutting " causes bleeding,

which causes more cancer. This was not good news but my heart told me so a while

back. I had a tumor for 20 years that a doc told me was scar tissue. Changed Drs

and he wanted it out, so I agreed in fear. Since then I have had another removed

and now 2 years later they say there is another. Maybe there is some truth to

that.

I guess I want to do the simplest remedy, as I work etc. I also want to do the

healthiest thing, and there is some fear there, there are people out there that

think they know what they are doing and don't. Ya know? I sincerely appreciate

all the help from all of you. I have to decide on what to do, and as I told you

finances are a biggie. I also can't imagine doing this thing alone out of state

or out of the country. Sigh* Thanks again, ya'll are Pals.

Joanne

Jim Yester <JCYester@...> wrote:

Hello again, Joanne,

See how much attention you've already generated!

I went to school at USC and lived there twice afterward. Although I've been

in Greensboro for 30 years, from what I remember of Columbia and its

progressive atmosphere, I'd bet that everything you need is right there.

Towns are different. Winston Salem, for example, just up the road, has much

more to offer in lots of areas than Greensboro, which is larger.

I would suggest that you make that call to ASAP. She's coming from

experience. I'm also looking for a response from one other person. In the

meantime, I'm still digging.

Oh, and I hope that people realize that flying all over the country isn't an

easy option for you.

Jim

Alternative Treatment

I am totally amazed! I have recurring Thyroid Cancer. I have chatted with

some of you, done much research etc. I just recieved a packet of info from

Dr, Byrzinski's Clinic in Houston. I am embarrrased to even tell you what he

charges for his services! I would have to be a millionaire! It is a

frustrating thing to me, that I will be forced into conventional therapy due

to lack of funds. I have insurance, so I will have to go that route. I am

trying to get into MD for a 2nd opinion.

I got an email from the founder of " peopleagainstcancer.com " . He sent me a

document on alternative therapy, including mailing for Laitrel which was

affordable to do myself. Would this be dangerous to try without a Doctor's

care? There are no alternative Dr's in my area to oversee this. I don't

understand why Alternative Medicine and even Organic foods have skyrocketed

out of control.

---------------------------------

goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone.

[Guest guest]

Somewhere in this thread I said already that (of course) there are limitations

to the procedure. Because of the neccessity of surgical teams, which are not

currently affiliated with us, internal cancers are not being treated at this

time. But the process would be feasable internally if not for that. As far as

the price, first read the FAQ section of the site...

www.lasemedinc.com

Each tumor is different, each case is different, price varies with the amount

of treatment required, which must be evaluated on an individual basis. Just call

if you need more info.

szukidavis@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/30/06 9:50:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

rsimmons133@... writes:

> I work for a cutting edge alternative cancer technology that has a 100%

> success rate, yet we are sometimes up against a brick wall trying to spread

the

> info in the appropriate target areas.

Can you please give us more details.

What do you mean exactly by 100% success rate? This is a very bold and broad

statement. What is this based on?

Has it been tried on colon cancer for instance? Or pancreatic cancer?

What is the cost?

Is this something you can do at home?

Etc.

[Guest guest]

I just was alerted that I made an interesting misspelling in my last post.

" Diseased " should have been " deceased " . -JY

[Guest guest]

Sandy: Click on the website within - it is awesome.

[Guest guest]

I am still waiting for your call.....269-876-8475(IF YOU RECEIVE MY VOICE MAIL

PLEASE LEAVE YOUR NAME AND A NUMBER WHERE I CAN REACH YOU) or 800-557-294 if you

receive a voice mail on this number call my cell. PLEASE GIVE ME A CALL.

szukidavis@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/30/06 8:22:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jes_dean_jo@... writes:

> Sure, depends on how far?

>

Woodstock, NY

But I think you should talk to first. She seems very knowledgeable

with great resources.

[Guest guest]

The article posted by Don was information and I am all for information. I like

to look at everything and make it available to everyone but in the end I agree

with Sharon that each person has to decide on their own treatment and see what

works for their body. I don't think blanket statements work for everyone.

Thanks for sharing your experiences! Each person's opinion just adds to our

pool of available knowledge.

Best Wishes,

Scarlet

>

> I think what really works is earnest research and trials on oneself. I went

> from not being able to breath, walk, a puddle of pain in 1999 to running 2

> miles a day, scuba diving, hiking, camping, biking, fishing, and loving life

> With medical treatments? NO. Some things work, some things don't.

> Everyone's body is different. I tested SAFE, nutrient based herbs, vitamins

> and nutraceuticals. Some things didn't help at all.

>

> For instance. I found that taking the green tea supplement, which is a

> concentrated extract causes my fibromylagia to flare up. I found that

> glucosamine, and MSM does this also. I believe the hardening of the muscles

> around my neck was causing the headaches too. So, I don't take them.

>

> But I found cordyceps, SAMe, dandelion, milk thistle, Vit C really helpful,

> encouraging vitality...in my own body. I don't care what the researchers

> say. I know what my body tells me. I am 52 years old.

>

> I don't try a lot of Chinese herbs because it takes a degree in eastern

> medicine to understand them, and they can be dangerous.

>

> Take care. Sharon

>

> -- [ ] alternative treatment

>

>

>

>

> Hepatitis C Alternative Treatments

> Posted by: " Christ " ludichrist2000@... ludichrist2000

> Thu Apr 9, 2009 1:37 am (PDT)

>

>

> Experts lay out the pros and cons of herbal remedies and other treatments

> for hepatitis C.

> By

> WebMD Feature

> Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD

>

>

>

> Just like I figured. The experts are even saying none of this shit works.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

My name is Pat Schwartz. I was diagnosed with cancer 5 years ago, and I had been

battling it since then. I tried so many different treatments, but every time I

would go back for a check up, I would be told my cancer was still present.

Somebody then told me about this website: www.geocities.com/arnodait

All they do is alternative remedies. I didn't believe any of it at first. But

since I was suffering a lot and would do anything just to feel better, I emailed

them and my life changed radically. They have medicines that really do wonders.

In less than 2 weeks, I felt much better. The treatment itself took less than 3

months. Now I live cancer free, I am living a miracle. I urge everybody to try

alternative treatments. Check the website and contact them; they might do

wonders for you too.

Pat

[Guest guest]

Hey Pat:

This looks very much like a commercial posting on this board. I believe such

things are not allowed. If you have decent information to share, just share it

without trying to sell us anything.

>

> Hi all,

>

> My name is Pat Schwartz. I was diagnosed with cancer 5 years ago, and I had

been battling it since then. I tried so many different treatments, but every

time I would go back for a check up, I would be told my cancer was still

present. Somebody then told me about this website: www.geocities.com/arnodait

> All they do is alternative remedies. I didn't believe any of it at first. But

since I was suffering a lot and would do anything just to feel better, I emailed

them and my life changed radically. They have medicines that really do wonders.

In less than 2 weeks, I felt much better. The treatment itself took less than 3

months. Now I live cancer free, I am living a miracle. I urge everybody to try

alternative treatments. Check the website and contact them; they might do

wonders for you too.

>

> Pat

>

[Guest guest]

This is disingenuous. " ...Somebody then told me about this website:

www.geocities.com/arnodait "

Your email to the list came from: " usarnoda " <usarnoda@...>

So, it is just coincidence that ARNODA appears in both your email and

the web address of this Republic of Benin company you are

touting. The West African neighbors of Benin and Nigeria have an

international reputation for fraud -- perhaps the most horrendous on

the planet.

At 06:02 AM 5/7/2009, you wrote:

>Hi all,

>

>My name is Pat Schwartz. I was diagnosed with cancer 5 years ago,

>and I had been battling it since then. I tried so many different

>treatments, but every time I would go back for a check up, I would

>be told my cancer was still present. Somebody then told me about

>this website: www.geocities.com/arnodait

>All they do is alternative remedies. I didn't believe any of it at

>first. But since I was suffering a lot and would do anything just to

>feel better, I emailed them and my life changed radically. They have

>medicines that really do wonders. In less than 2 weeks, I felt much

>better. The treatment itself took less than 3 months. Now I live

>cancer free, I am living a miracle. I urge everybody to try

>alternative treatments. Check the website and contact them; they

>might do wonders for you too.

>

>Pat