Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Actually the term virgin in reference to coconut oil is an invented convention, really it doesn't mean very much, its a marketing thing. It's not the same as when the word is used to refer to olive oil. Most coconuts (nearly all?) are organically grown, the agricultural chemical producers haven't developed product for that market yet. I would look for a coconut oil that is not refined with chemicals and is made with evident care, eg. made as to keep oxidation to a minimum and retain vitamins , etc. Bruce Virgin Coconut Oil I went to both health food stores and a major grocery store in town and could not find *virgin* coconut oil. There were some that were expeller pressed that were refined and another one that said it was organic but didn't specifically say virgin. Is this a special order product? Will it say " virgin " on it? Or do I just live in too small a town. -- " My dog isn't stubborn, he's just smarter than me! " - maf Marni Fowler, CPDT Jester, NJC (finally got some letters!) 4, CGC Gainesville, FL APDT #5372P exp. 12/03 http://www.classactfordogs.com BARF Shirts! => http://www.nicasdreams.freeservers.com Ask me about health food for pets http://www.raw4dogs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 > > >I would look for a coconut oil that is not refined with chemicals and is made with evident care, eg. made as to keep oxidation to a minimum and retain vitamins , etc. > Thanks for the info on " virgin " . I was thinking it was the same as olive oil. So the stuff I found that said it's refined, but expeller pressed, is ok? I don't remember seeing any chemicals listed in the ingredients. -- " My dog isn't stubborn, he's just smarter than me! " - maf Marni Fowler, CPDT Jester, NJC (finally got some letters!) 4, CGC Gainesville, FL APDT #5372P exp. 12/03 http://www.classactfordogs.com BARF Shirts! => http://www.nicasdreams.freeservers.com Ask me about health food for pets http://www.raw4dogs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 ee, refined, depends how, they don't have to list chemicals that are used as reactants if they supposedly leave only trace amounts or are removed after refining. This is the norm in the food processing industry. They are supposed to tell you what is in the food product but don't have to reveal what chemical processing it undergoes. I would stay away from any " refined " oils. What I look at is the natural holistic view. If a food is treated like its just a manufacturing product and subjected to chemical extraction and factory processing it wont be a healthy thing to eat. Expeller pressed is fine,... refined, if they put it on the label as such must be chemically extracted and processed, and not something I would call a good food. :| Bruce Re: Virgin Coconut Oil > > >I would look for a coconut oil that is not refined with chemicals and is made with evident care, eg. made as to keep oxidation to a minimum and retain vitamins , etc. > Thanks for the info on " virgin " . I was thinking it was the same as olive oil. So the stuff I found that said it's refined, but expeller pressed, is ok? I don't remember seeing any chemicals listed in the ingredients. -- " My dog isn't stubborn, he's just smarter than me! " - maf Marni Fowler, CPDT Jester, NJC (finally got some letters!) 4, CGC Gainesville, FL APDT #5372P exp. 12/03 http://www.classactfordogs.com BARF Shirts! => http://www.nicasdreams.freeservers.com Ask me about health food for pets http://www.raw4dogs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 You Said... Actually the term virgin in reference to coconut oil is an invented convention, really it doesn't mean very much, its a marketing thing. It's not the same as when the word is used to refer to olive oil. Most coconuts (nearly all?) are organically grown, the agricultural chemical producers haven't developed product for that market yet. The term Virgin (or extra Virgin ) in olive or Coconut oil has nothing to do with the Organic or otherwise status of the crop being described (imo) ...rather it refers to the fact that the oil was produced from a first pass/pressing/extraction method...In many cheap & nasty brand ..they take the seed remains after first pressing & use heat/chemicals to get second & subsequent yields of oil from the spent seeds etc material. If for example I bought top quality Organic Olive oil (which I have done in Australia)..it would specify...Extra Virgin & Organically grown Olive Oil ...Organic Olive oil is rare though..extra Virgin Olive Oil is very common however & sought after ... ... & of course Organic coconut oil means little because most coconut trees grow pretty much unaided by mans efforts, & so are pretty much always organically grown...fwiw, (imo) Virgin Coconut Oil I went to both health food stores and a major grocery store in town and could not find *virgin* coconut oil. There were some that were expeller pressed that were refined and another one that said it was organic but didn't specifically say virgin. Is this a special order product? Will it say " virgin " on it? Or do I just live in too small a town. -- " My dog isn't stubborn, he's just smarter than me! " - maf Marni Fowler, CPDT Jester, NJC (finally got some letters!) 4, CGC Gainesville, FL APDT #5372P exp. 12/03 http://www.classactfordogs.com BARF Shirts! => http://www.nicasdreams.freeservers.com Ask me about health food for pets http://www.raw4dogs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Hello, um, I never said organic status was related to an oils status as virgin or any other catagory someone might label it under. There is all kinds of virgin olive oil being sold as such that is no where's near being organic. From what I have read the pressing of coconut oil, which ever method is used, is a one shot thing, there is no second pressing, none that is sold as such anyways. Peace, Bruce. Re: Virgin Coconut Oil You Said... Actually the term virgin in reference to coconut oil is an invented convention, really it doesn't mean very much, its a marketing thing. It's not the same as when the word is used to refer to olive oil. Most coconuts (nearly all?) are organically grown, the agricultural chemical producers haven't developed product for that market yet. The term Virgin (or extra Virgin ) in olive or Coconut oil has nothing to do with the Organic or otherwise status of the crop being described (imo) ....rather it refers to the fact that the oil was produced from a first pass/pressing/extraction method...In many cheap & nasty brand ..they take the seed remains after first pressing & use heat/chemicals to get second & subsequent yields of oil from the spent seeds etc material. If for example I bought top quality Organic Olive oil (which I have done in Australia)..it would specify...Extra Virgin & Organically grown Olive Oil ...Organic Olive oil is rare though..extra Virgin Olive Oil is very common however & sought after ... ... & of course Organic coconut oil means little because most coconut trees grow pretty much unaided by mans efforts, & so are pretty much always organically grown...fwiw, (imo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 > Actually the term virgin in reference to coconut oil is an invented > convention, really it doesn't mean very much, its a marketing thing. It's > not the same as when the word is used to refer to olive oil. > > Most coconuts (nearly all?) are organically grown, the agricultural > chemical producers haven't developed product for that market yet. > > I would look for a coconut oil that is not refined with chemicals and is > made with evident care, eg. made as to keep oxidation to a minimum and > retain vitamins , etc. > > Bruce Bruce, Virgin is applied to oils that are extracted without (very much) heat. Expeller-pressed oil is heated a little to drive off the last of the water. Sometimes the coconut is roasted a bit to quick-dry it first. Similarly, fermented coconut ol is skimmed, then heated a little to drive off the last of the water. REAL virgin coconut oil is wet milled, expeller pressed while still wet, then chilled. The chilling seperates the oil from the juice, and centrifuging dries it out. I guess this is EXTRA virgin, as it is the ONLY zero-heat process. Lots of companies have oil approaching virgin; I chose to represent the best one for the gourmet market. The company also has other oils, such as shea butter. Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 Ok Bruce ...You may have not meant to imply that the term " Virgin " related to organic status of the product ...but hey ....read what you wrote( see below) ...(lol)...thats all I did.....Peace to you too.... -------------------------------------- You Said... Actually the term virgin in reference to coconut oil is an invented convention, really it doesn't mean very much, its a marketing thing. It's not the same as when the word is used to refer to olive oil. Most coconuts (nearly all?) are organically grown, the agricultural chemical producers haven't developed product for that market yet. Re: Virgin Coconut Oil You Said... Actually the term virgin in reference to coconut oil is an invented convention, really it doesn't mean very much, its a marketing thing. It's not the same as when the word is used to refer to olive oil. Most coconuts (nearly all?) are organically grown, the agricultural chemical producers haven't developed product for that market yet. The term Virgin (or extra Virgin ) in olive or Coconut oil has nothing to do with the Organic or otherwise status of the crop being described (imo) ....rather it refers to the fact that the oil was produced from a first pass/pressing/extraction method...In many cheap & nasty brand ..they take the seed remains after first pressing & use heat/chemicals to get second & subsequent yields of oil from the spent seeds etc material. If for example I bought top quality Organic Olive oil (which I have done in Australia)..it would specify...Extra Virgin & Organically grown Olive Oil ...Organic Olive oil is rare though..extra Virgin Olive Oil is very common however & sought after ... ... & of course Organic coconut oil means little because most coconut trees grow pretty much unaided by mans efforts, & so are pretty much always organically grown...fwiw, (imo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2003 Report Share Posted December 19, 2003 sure its all organic, virgin or copra or any, it seems,untill the chemical merchants get an angle to sell to the growers. : -( Bruce Re: Virgin Coconut Oil You Said... Actually the term virgin in reference to coconut oil is an invented convention, really it doesn't mean very much, its a marketing thing. It's not the same as when the word is used to refer to olive oil. Most coconuts (nearly all?) are organically grown, the agricultural chemical producers haven't developed product for that market yet. The term Virgin (or extra Virgin ) in olive or Coconut oil has nothing to do with the Organic or otherwise status of the crop being described (imo) ....rather it refers to the fact that the oil was produced from a first pass/pressing/extraction method...In many cheap & nasty brand ..they take the seed remains after first pressing & use heat/chemicals to get second & subsequent yields of oil from the spent seeds etc material. If for example I bought top quality Organic Olive oil (which I have done in Australia)..it would specify...Extra Virgin & Organically grown Olive Oil ..Organic Olive oil is rare though..extra Virgin Olive Oil is very common however & sought after ... ... & of course Organic coconut oil means little because most coconut trees grow pretty much unaided by mans efforts, & so are pretty much always organically grown...fwiw, (imo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 The taste of the coconut oil was not bad and no smell. Sorry for the first typo. Betty [ ] virgin coconut oil The name of the coconut oil I got the other day at health food store is from www.YesNutrition.com It was $12.95 for a jar. Did have a bad taste or smell. At the health food store they seem to think it was a good as the Garden of Eden. Betty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Dear Betty, Did you mean Garden of Life? Bee Betty wrote: > The name of the coconut oil I got the other day at health food store is from www.YesNutrition.com It was $12.95 for a jar. Did have a bad taste or smell. At the health food store they seem to think it was a good as the Garden of Eden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Yes I did. Sorry for the wrong name. Betty [ ] Re: virgin coconut oil Dear Betty, Did you mean Garden of Life? Bee Betty wrote: > The name of the coconut oil I got the other day at health food store is from www.YesNutrition.com It was $12.95 for a jar. Did have a bad taste or smell. At the health food store they seem to think it was a good as the Garden of Eden. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Hi Edwin! My friend who has bile duct cancer is in the Philippines. Would VCO detox be good for him and if so, what brand of VCO would you recommend? Please advise. Thanks. Donna Edwin Casimero <eesc@...> wrote: VCO detox gets rid of systemic yeast infection. Very fast, very effective. http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/virgin-coconut-oi\ l-detox Good skill, Edwin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Hi Donna, Yes, VCO detox would be good for him. We usually buy Carica brand, they have good number of stores spread out. While he's here he should get Dr. Tam's Miracle Tea and Carica VCO at http://www.tiendesitas.com.ph He should also attend Dr. Tam's free seminar Sundays 2:30pm in Pasig. I list everything down in http://www.curemanual.com His kidney cleanse is free from avocado leaves. Since it is cancer, he must do his parasite cleanses. In the USA, http://www.barefootherbalistmh.com has a very good dewormer that fits into Hulda 's cure for cancer protocol. He should also have his biological dentistry done here for his dental cleanse. And the chiropractor. Also some zapper suppliers. Those people are in http://www.curemanual.com Sure organic produce he can get from OPTA. I also highly recommend your friend contact Divina Hey- who can give a different insight. Anthroposophic point of view. Regards, Edwin Donna wrote: > > Hi Edwin! My friend who has bile duct cancer is in the Philippines. > Would VCO detox be good for him and if so, what brand of VCO would you > recommend? Please advise. Thanks. > > Donna > > Edwin Casimero <eesc@... > <mailto:eesc%40filipinowebservices.com>> wrote: > > VCO detox gets rid of systemic yeast infection. > Very fast, very effective. > http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/virgin-coconut-oi\ l-detox > <http://www.curemanual.com/detox-protocols/intestinal-cleansing/virgin-coconut-o\ il-detox> > > Good skill, > Edwin > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Thank you so much Edwin! I will forward this information to him ASAP. He just got the result of his MRI and was told that his tumor didn't shrink even after numerous chemo sessions. They used Avastin on him which didn't do any good but more harm to his body, they said it damaged his liver so now he has to stop chemotherapy for good. He's devastated but I told him this could be a good thing...not having to undergo chemotherapy. Now he can concentrate on alternative treatment to rebuild his immune system. This gives him hope. Once again Edwin...thank you...to all of you in this egroup...thank you so much... Edwin Casimero <eesc@...> wrote: Hi Donna, Yes, VCO detox would be good for him. We usually buy Carica brand, they have good number of stores spread out. While he's here he should get Dr. Tam's Miracle Tea and Carica VCO at http://www.tiendesitas.com.ph He should also attend Dr. Tam's free seminar Sundays 2:30pm in Pasig. I list everything down in http://www.curemanual.com His kidney cleanse is free from avocado leaves. Since it is cancer, he must do his parasite cleanses. In the USA, http://www.barefootherbalistmh.com has a very good dewormer that fits into Hulda 's cure for cancer protocol. He should also have his biological dentistry done here for his dental cleanse. And the chiropractor. Also some zapper suppliers. Those people are in http://www.curemanual.com Sure organic produce he can get from OPTA. I also highly recommend your friend contact Divina Hey- who can give a different insight. Anthroposophic point of view. Regards, Edwin Donna wrote: > Hi Edwin! My friend who has bile duct cancer is in the Philippines. > Would VCO detox be good for him and if so, what brand of VCO would you recommend? Please advise. Thanks. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 > > Eh...stupid question. I live in a foreign (a.k.a. backwards) country > and can't seem to find VCO anywhere. However when I search the web I > see some versions that are in solid form and some that are liquid. > What is the right form for VCO...liquid or solid? > > Robin > Coconut oil melts at I believe 74 degrees fahernheit. So sepending on your house temp it may be liquid or solid but it the same thing. the important thing it to get the virgin unrefined which will be white when solid or clear when liquid (refined tends to have a yellow color and less coconut flavor). Hope that helps Kara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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