Re: Brain Tumors - Does Chemo Cross Blood Brain Barrier?

[Guest guest]

I cannot answer the primary question about The Blood Barrier issue but I can say

the following with the backing of most members of this list...........I think.

That is, getting others to do what we want when they are Conventionally oriented

is very discouraging because they rarely change this position and if they do, it

is often because they are told, " there is no more we can do for you " .

When looking up this subject I came across some information regarding the use of

certain chemotherapy modalities and it mentions an " improved response " using

them. Most of us have learned that the use of the word 'Response' is not

directly related to survivability, but is related to tumor shrinkage which both

chemotherapy and radiation usually offer. It reminds me of what I said to my

Urologist, " I am not interested in Tumor Response but am interested in

survivability " and he understood that I knew the game and their terminology so

we no longer play word games.

Perhaps you need to ask the Oncologist, in front of your husband, " are you

looking for a good response using such and such " ? ..........and immediately add,

" because I do understand that a shrinkage of the tumor/s do not necessarily

relate to longer life. "

You need to get him/her to recognize you are knowledgeable.

I would then ask him whether or not this treatment is Palliative rather than a

Curative attempt?

Your husband needs to understand the terminology to understand the limitations

of those people in the White Coats or he will continue to blindly follow their

advice.

Good luck and also, you do need to find someone to work with because this does

not seem to be a situation that can be home-schooled so easily.

Joe C.

[Guest guest]

Some chemo agents are known to cross, some have been thought not to cross, but

later tests show brain cell damage (I have been living with chemo brain, so

researched this) that cannot be explained in any way except by some unknown

crossing of the barrier.

You may want to get the name of the agent and do some online research. You can

find a lot of info out there, and get into groups where people who have been on

the agent share their experiences. One is:

http://www.askapatient.com/rateyourmedicine.htm

I hope that helps. It is such a tough decision, the chemo one.

Prayers,

~J

>

> My husband has a stage II Astrocytoma. He's had two surgerys, the last one

about a month ago. The biopsy showed tumor agression. They are calling it

almost a stage III. The doctors want to begin chemo and radiation (which he

hasn't had to this date.)

>

> I am totally against this but my husband won't listen. I am for natural

approaches only but my husband believes in the science. I have tried for two

years to convince him but haven't had any luck. So..I have to sit back and

watch as he poisons himself.

>

> I don't understand the point of chemo. The tumor is in his brain only so why

poison the entire body? I know many natural therapies don't cross the

blood/brain barrier so I thought why should the chemo? I asked the doctor who

would be administering the chemo and she said of coarse it did. I don't believe

her and would like some " proof " that it doesn't. Maybe I could convince my

husband not to do it if there is some science.

>

> Can anyone help?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I suggest Vitamin D3 as well in the megadose range. Visit Mercola.com and

Blaylock.com.

If you do Chemo coffee enemas are critical to detox.

Get a doctor to blood test for D and for Iodine, as well. Organic food too.

Food in the US has bromine in it to block the Iodine receptors. It is illegal

in Canada.

Veg/Fruit start with a " 9 " on the sticker. All else should be avoided.

[Guest guest]

The budwig protocol is believed to cross the blood brain barrier. Try googling

Budwig and joining the flaxoil2@groups for more info. I have a brain tumour

and decided to follow this protocol which has an excellent success rate.

Sent from my iPhone

[Guest guest]

I can't help. All I can say is I am sorry you have to go through this.

My mother is starting radiation today. Chemo soon is she can gain enough weight

and get stronger. She barely took the stuff I gave her and of course the dr

wants her to stop (not a big deal since she barely took it anyway) eat all the

shakes you want.

Even my BIL asked what sense that makes. Not to take something that can help

strengthen her but eat sugar and feed the cancer

Cheri

>

> My husband has a stage II Astrocytoma. He's had two surgerys, the last one

about a month ago. The biopsy showed tumor agression. They are calling it

almost a stage III. The doctors want to begin chemo and radiation (which he

hasn't had to this date.)

>

> I am totally against this but my husband won't listen. I am for natural

approaches only but my husband believes in the science. I have tried for two

years to convince him but haven't had any luck. So..I have to sit back and

watch as he poisons himself.

>

> I don't understand the point of chemo. The tumor is in his brain only so why

poison the entire body? I know many natural therapies don't cross the

blood/brain barrier so I thought why should the chemo? I asked the doctor who

would be administering the chemo and she said of coarse it did. I don't believe

her and would like some " proof " that it doesn't. Maybe I could convince my

husband not to do it if there is some science.

>

> Can anyone help?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

N-tense from rain-tree.com has been used for brain tumors with much success.

Rain-tree herbs are from the Amazon, organic and processed for maximum potentcy.

This is perhaps the least expensive route to take. I am not connected with any

company; just a cancer survivor from 2002 who refused all conventional methods

and went all natural. You can also call raintree, if you have questions--great

herbalists.

Pattie

> From: christine <crsegal@...>

> Subject: [ ] Brain Tumors - Does Chemo Cross Blood Brain Barrier?

>

> Date: Monday, December 21, 2009, 5:29 AM

> My husband has a stage II

> Astrocytoma.  He's had two surgerys, the last one about

> a month ago.  The biopsy showed tumor agression. 

> They are calling it almost a stage III.  The doctors

> want to begin chemo and radiation (which he hasn't had to

> this date.)

>

> I am totally against this but my husband won't listen. I am

> for natural approaches only but my husband believes in the

> science.  I have tried for two years to convince him

> but haven't had any luck.  So..I have to sit back and

> watch as he poisons himself.

>

> I don't understand the point of chemo.  The tumor is

> in his brain only so why poison the entire body?  I

> know many natural therapies don't cross the blood/brain

> barrier so I thought why should the chemo?  I asked the

> doctor who would be administering the chemo and she said of

> coarse it did.  I don't believe her and would like some

> " proof " that it doesn't.  Maybe I could convince my

> husband not to do it if there is some science.

>

> Can anyone help?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks everyone for your suggestions and advice! Unfortunately, I've been

trying for two years to get my husband to follow the natural route. It's been a

constant source of fights and a lot of stress for me. I do cook only organic

foods and juice for him when I can get fresh organic greens, but I have to do

it. He won't do anything on his own.

I had someone write to me about polymva. I've heard of that and I may order it

and just tell him to take it. He doesn't need to know anything about it. I'll

just say its a new vitamin. I'm really doing the best I can. I have two

teenagers I'm trying to raise as well. I feel like I have three kids! Sorry

for the vent! I do appreciate your suggestions.

Pat Mc <pjmacblondie@...> wrote:

>

> N-tense from rain-tree.com has been used for brain tumors with much success.

Rain-tree herbs are from the Amazon, organic and processed for maximum potentcy.

This is perhaps the least expensive route to take. I am not connected with any

company; just a cancer survivor from 2002 who refused all conventional methods

and went all natural. You can also call raintree, if you have questions--great

herbalists.

> Pattie

>

>

> On Mon, 12/21/09, christine <crsegal@...> wrote:

> > My husband has a stage II Astrocytoma.  He's had two surgerys, the last one

about a month ago.  The biopsy showed tumor agression. 

> > They are calling it almost a stage III.  The doctors

> > want to begin chemo and radiation (which he hasn't had to

> > this date.) I am totally against this but my husband won't listen. I am for

natural approaches only but my husband believes in the science.....