Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Ok, all you ionic multivitamin information genius junkies out there. I've been doing well on good old Dr. Wallach's plant derived vitamins and minerals but would like to try some ionic vitamins and minerals. Any recommendations? Thanks! Natural health Through Natural means Is a Divine Right. Bell Buckle, Tn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 , the word ionic is nowadays used as a sizzle word to enhance marketing. The body usually finds a redox way to assure that a mineral or vitamin is in a useable state. There is an evolutionary concordance of enzymes and catalysts. These lower the activation energies of biochemical reactions so that these reactions can take place at body temperature and compartment pH. As we age we often lose optimal functionality of some of these enzymes - often proteins with a mineral component. The key then is to use minerals and trace minerals to perform the same functions, that is to utilize a vestigial back-up system. The key to use this enzyme-catalyst concordance effectively is to use some of the pertinent minerals and trace minerals throughout the day as the body does a poor job of storing any minerals that are not protein bound. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Snoddy Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 6:54 PM Cancercured Group Subject: [ ] Ionic vitamins and minerals Ok, all you ionic multivitamin information genius junkies out there. I've been doing well on good old Dr. Wallach's plant derived vitamins and minerals but would like to try some ionic vitamins and minerals. Any recommendations? Thanks! Natural health Through Natural means Is a Divine Right. Bell Buckle, Tn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Is there any brand of vitamins that are better than others ? ~Amber On 3/29/2011 7:39 PM, Gammill wrote: > , the word ionic is nowadays used as a sizzle word to enhance > marketing. The body usually finds a redox way to assure that a mineral or > vitamin is in a useable state. There is an evolutionary concordance of > enzymes and catalysts. These lower the activation energies of biochemical > reactions so that these reactions can take place at body temperature and > compartment pH. > > > > As we age we often lose optimal functionality of some of these enzymes - > often proteins with a mineral component. The key then is to use minerals > and trace minerals to perform the same functions, that is to utilize a > vestigial back-up system. The key to use this enzyme-catalyst concordance > effectively is to use some of the pertinent minerals and trace minerals > throughout the day as the body does a poor job of storing any minerals that > are not protein bound. > > > > > > > > _____ > > From: [mailto: ] On > Behalf Of Snoddy > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 6:54 PM > Cancercured Group > Subject: [ ] Ionic vitamins and minerals > > > > Ok, all you ionic multivitamin information genius junkies out there. > I've been doing well on good old Dr. Wallach's plant derived vitamins > and minerals but would like to try some ionic vitamins and minerals. > > Any recommendations? > > Thanks! > > > > Natural health > Through Natural means > Is a Divine Right. > > Bell Buckle, Tn. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Thank you. Sizzle is right. I haven't studied ionic minerals and vitamins. Like I said, I have taken plant derived minerals from Dr. Wallach for years and seem to be doing fine. Is there a particular brand of multi mineral/vitamin that you recommend? What do you take? Nano size is also a sizzle word these days I notice. Thanks in advance. On Mar 29, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Gammill wrote: > , the word ionic is nowadays used as a sizzle word to enhance > marketing. The body usually finds a redox way to assure that a > mineral or vitamin is in a useable state. There is an evolutionary concordance of enzymes and catalysts. These lower the activation energies of biochemical reactions so that these reactions can take place at body temperature and compartment pH. > > As we age we often lose optimal functionality of some of these > enzymes - often proteins with a mineral component. The key then is to use minerals and trace minerals to perform the same functions, that is to utilize a vestigial back-up system. The key to use this enzyme-catalyst concordance effectively is to use some of the pertinent minerals and trace minerals throughout the day as the body does a poor job of storing any minerals that are not protein bound. > > > _____ > > From: Snoddy > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 > > Ok, all you ionic multivitamin information genius junkies out there. > I've been doing well on good old Dr. Wallach's plant derived vitamins and minerals but would like to try some ionic vitamins and minerals. Any recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Most vitamins and minerals are produced by very few pharmaceutical companies and these products tend to be very pure. Many small companies go to the same wholesalers and distributors, but for the retail market they have to have some value-added rationale, so they claim extra purity or denigrate their competitor's products, or sell only to " professionals, " or ??? If you have time on your hands and money is an issue, then you might buy bulk and then cap many of the supplements yourself. With a Cap-M-Quik rack which probably costs only $20 or so you can cap 50 of the 00 ( " double ought " ) caps at a time. There is a certain satisfaction in taking charge of your own pharmaceutical economics. It can start with capping, then on to formulations, then to extractions of herbs, and perhaps even synthesis. I know on this group there is a certain bias such that synthesis is considered a bit unholy, but just consider that one's own body synthesizes zillions of biochemical correctives per second which would make it the biggest sinner of all. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Snoddy Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 8:18 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Ionic vitamins and minerals Thank you. Sizzle is right. I haven't studied ionic minerals and vitamins. Like I said, I have taken plant derived minerals from Dr. Wallach for years and seem to be doing fine. Is there a particular brand of multi mineral/vitamin that you recommend? What do you take? Nano size is also a sizzle word these days I notice. Thanks in advance. On Mar 29, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Gammill wrote: > , the word ionic is nowadays used as a sizzle word to enhance > marketing. The body usually finds a redox way to assure that a > mineral or vitamin is in a useable state. There is an evolutionary concordance of enzymes and catalysts. These lower the activation energies of biochemical reactions so that these reactions can take place at body temperature and compartment pH. > > As we age we often lose optimal functionality of some of these > enzymes - often proteins with a mineral component. The key then is to use minerals and trace minerals to perform the same functions, that is to utilize a vestigial back-up system. The key to use this enzyme-catalyst concordance effectively is to use some of the pertinent minerals and trace minerals throughout the day as the body does a poor job of storing any minerals that are not protein bound. > > > _____ > > From: Snoddy > Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 > > Ok, all you ionic multivitamin information genius junkies out there. > I've been doing well on good old Dr. Wallach's plant derived vitamins and minerals but would like to try some ionic vitamins and minerals. Any recommendations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 Ok, I agree with you. Would you mind sharing who you buy from and what you buy. I think it would be helpful to me and to the group. I make my own herbal capsules now on a small scale, a few basic fresh herbs. If you don't want to share publicly, reply in private, that would work for me. Thanks in advance On Mar 30, 2011, at 12:25 AM, Gammill wrote: > Most vitamins and minerals are produced by very few pharmaceutical > companies and these products tend to be very pure. Many small companies go to the same wholesalers and distributors, but for the retail market they have to have some value-added rationale, so they claim extra purity or denigrate their competitor's products, or sell only to " professionals, " or ???............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 , I usually buy by the drum as I have established accounts. For small amounts say 1-5 kilos you just Google " herbs " and " bulk " or " suppliers " or similar search terms. There are many such providers. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Snoddy Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Ionic vitamins and minerals Ok, I agree with you. Would you mind sharing who you buy from and what you buy. I think it would be helpful to me and to the group. I make my own herbal capsules now on a small scale, a few basic fresh herbs. If you don't want to share publicly, reply in private, that would work for me. Thanks in advance On Mar 30, 2011, at 12:25 AM, Gammill wrote: > Most vitamins and minerals are produced by very few pharmaceutical > companies and these products tend to be very pure. Many small companies go to the same wholesalers and distributors, but for the retail market they have to have some value-added rationale, so they claim extra purity or denigrate their competitor's products, or sell only to " professionals, " or ???............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 There are a couple of suppliers of herbs and other botanicals and the one I have used is Pacific Botanicals. Check them out because I have never been disappointed working with them. Joe C. From: Gammill , I usually buy by the drum as I have established accounts. For small amounts say 1-5 kilos you just Google " herbs " and " bulk " or " suppliers " or similar search terms. There are many such providers. Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thanks Joe, I'll check them out. For me it is all about cellular respiration and getting nutrients into the cells. It doesn't matter if you eat an elephant, if nutrition doesn't enter the cells, it is a net loss for the day and over a few years the immune system weakens and we get sick with cancer like me for example. Natural health Through Natural means Is a Divine Right. Bell Buckle, Tn. On Mar 30, 2011, at 9:02 AM, JoeCastron wrote: > There are a couple of suppliers of herbs and other botanicals and > the one I have used is Pacific Botanicals. Check them out because I > have never been disappointed working with them. > > Joe C. > > From: Gammill > > , I usually buy by the drum as I have established accounts. > > For small amounts say 1-5 kilos you just Google " herbs " and " bulk " or > " suppliers " or similar search terms. There are many such providers. > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Joe Just checked them out. Unfortunately they don't do vitamins and minerals. Guess I might just stick with good old Dr. Wallach's plant derived minerals. All the pain in my body goes away when I take his full blow program 90 nutrient program, pig pack plus. I hate it that he only markets through a MLM. Natural health Through Natural means Is a Divine Right. Bell Buckle, Tn. On Mar 30, 2011, at 9:02 AM, JoeCastron wrote: > There are a couple of suppliers of herbs and other botanicals and > the one I have used is Pacific Botanicals. Check them out because I > have never been disappointed working with them. > > Joe C. > > From: Gammill > > , I usually buy by the drum as I have established accounts. > > For small amounts say 1-5 kilos you just Google " herbs " and " bulk " or > " suppliers " or similar search terms. There are many such providers. > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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